Tim Sylvia: Fedor Emelianenko is losing status (and then some)

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"I think he [Fedor Emelianenko] is being a p*ssy. I think Fedor is very good, but you have to fight the top level competitors all the time to keep that status, and he is just not doing that."
Former UFC heavyweight champion Tim Sylvia shares his thoughts on top-ranked Fedor Emelianenko, who just defeated Hong Man Choi via submission (armbar) over the weekend in a bizarre match up at Yarennoka! in Japan. "The Maine-iac" apparently "respects Emelianenko's skills – just not his choice of opponents."
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Whoever said that Fedor even cares about his rank? He lives his life according to his rules, not yours Timmy. Just b/c you’re a puppet of Dana’s doesn’t mean Fedor will sell out to him too. If you want to know why he’s not fighting top contenders, talk to your boy Dana. If he’s a pussy, what does that make you since he’d hand you your ass easily if you ever fought him.
by Ixian on Jan 2, 2008 12:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Sylvia just got his ass handed to him. Wait, Sylvia…that’s not a…bean burrito…
by Jay on Jul 20, 2008 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor would destroe sylvia and then some
by Aggieman23 on Jan 2, 2008 12:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Timmy Webfoot is talking trash?!?! Yeah Sure..Fedor is the man. Tim is shook of Fedor. One thing Tim right about is Fedor needs to fight top tier fighter’s..but with ufc/Dana offerring Fedor a million dollars or so in exchange of being a slave..Fedor gave Dana the finger. Fedor says he wants to fight the best..in the last 5 years he hasn’t been ducking anyone..it’s just the state of MMA..which is F’d up a bit. If Dana doesn’t want to do any cross promotion fights with Free Agents..Fedor will only be able to fight Top Free Agents..He should fight Josh Barnett soon..but after Josh who will he fight?? 92 percent of the top heavy weights fight exsculsively fot the ufc..I think he is the top heavy weight in the world currently..I’m a fan of his..how long will he have that title?? not for long …cuz ufc and Fedor couldn’t find common ground. Just to note Fedor never considered himselfas the top hw..the fan’s did.
by PhilQNY on Jan 2, 2008 12:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hate to admit it but Big Timmy’s right. Sylvia may suck but he’ll fight anybody anytime.
by c-war on Jan 2, 2008 12:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
except the last time he was offered a match with Fedor in 2006. Timmy backed out
by ted on May 29, 2008 6:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tim is just looking for attention. Fedor has the kind of attention Tim only dreams of having. Tim should do his homework and understand why Fedor is not fighting in the UFC. Fedor is a man of character and a man of his country. Tim is about Tim, just ask Matt Hughes, as he talks about this in his book.
by Mark on Jan 2, 2008 12:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I definitely agree with Sylvia that Fedor is pussing out and choosing lesser opponents. However, I’d love to see Fedor beat the snot out of big Timmy. I’m still keeping my fingers crossed for a Fedor/Randy fight. Wishful thinking probably…
by Jason on Jan 2, 2008 12:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor would most likely reck sylvia, but timmys right. Fedor hasnt fought anybody lately. To be the best, you have to beat the best, and he hasnt. Let him beat Couture, which i dont think he can, then we’ll see how great he really is. Im not saying he isnt the best, he could be, but lets see him fight some noteworthy opponents again then see whats up
by ramping on Jan 2, 2008 12:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good. I hope Fedor reads about Timmy’s quote. It will rattle his cage a little bit. Maybe some good will come of it.
by DJ Pullout on Jan 2, 2008 12:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think we’d all have to be realistic and mature enough to know that even if you have an overall dislike of a fighter, it would be juvenile to dismiss everything that fighter had to say. While I don’t have any respect for either Phil Baroni or Sean Sherk, their complaints about the CSAC are valid. They could have been baseline clean, and the CSAC would have still found a way to screw up their tests.
Fedor’s choice to beat the crap out of a novelty fighter like Hong Man Choi may be a “What the Blessed Fuck Were You Thinking?” choice, but then again after telling Lex Luthor err… Dana White to take his offer and shove it up his ringpiece, he may be saying that he doesn’t give a dry fuck about what anybody else thinks.
After Pride imploded and after the UFC wasn’t able to make the Liddell-Silva fight happen when it was supposed to happen, a lot of time and speculation hit the fan. It didn’t have nearly the impact it could have had, but it still happened. The Emelianenko-Couture fight could still happen, but then again we might see Kazushi Sakuraba fight Rickson Gracie soon.
by Korean Avenger on Jan 2, 2008 1:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I Timmy loses to Big NOG, his contract will probably be ended since he’s nobody’s favorite fighter. Then he can sign with M-1 and find out how big of a pussy Fedor is. I think it would be a pretty exciting fight. Another awkwardly sized opponent for Fedor, just with a much better skill set
by JamesS on Jan 2, 2008 1:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think that I might have to agree with Tim for the first time. I think it was Soko who said that he had higher paying offers but that he wanted to fight better competition.
Fedor should be embarassed that, with his status, he took a fight against someone with one professional MMA fight. I don’t give a crap how tall that tool was.
by Fidel Cashflow on Jan 2, 2008 1:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i do agree with sylvia that fedor is losing his status not fight top competition. but to call him a P***y for not doing so is nonsense. there are factors that are not letting him fight top contenders that play in.
by MMA Wallpapers SF on Jan 2, 2008 1:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tim Silvia has been losing status with me since that boring ass Brandon Vera fight
by BlairSellers on Jan 2, 2008 1:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Everyone can get all pissed off but Tim’s stock just went up in my book.
you may begin to hate…
by bushswinger on Jan 2, 2008 1:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He’s right. He didn’t say “Fedor’s a pussy,” he said that he’s BEING a pussy by not facing legitimate competition. How can anybody disagree? I’m not saying Tim shouldn’t have put it more eloquently, but his larger point still stands.
by Ben! on Jan 2, 2008 1:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Timmy.
Oh yeah? then why did tim reject a fight with Fedor 2-3 years ago?
by zheka on Jan 2, 2008 1:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tims right that Fedor needed to fight top guys. I also thought it was public knowledge that Fedors management team didn’t like the idea of him fighting big Timmy? So I am not sure that we should be doing some Tim bashing here, when he’s practically calling him out.
BTW I am not a fan of Tim, just calling it as I see it.
by 2DUM2TAP on Jan 2, 2008 1:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have a question for everyone. How would Tim do against Choi?
by zheka on Jan 2, 2008 1:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hate to admit it but Big Timmy’s right. Sylvia may suck but he’ll fight anybody anytime.
No he wont! He might press anyone against the cage and dry hump them, but I wouldn’t really call that Fighting!
by john on Jan 2, 2008 1:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Timmy would never reject a fight with Fedor. Only smart fans will realize this not Fedor nuthuggers like you.
Timmy is right. Accept it.
by wwerealm on Jan 2, 2008 1:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good. I hope Fedor reads about Timmy’s quote. It will rattle his cage a little bit. Maybe some good will come of it.
Nahhh, I don’t think Fedor cares about anything TS has to say.
I do agree that most MMA fans crave to see Fedor against better competitors. Hopefully, M-1 will use the most recent exhibition match against Choi (‘cause that’s what it was, no more), to rile up attention and give us something worthy during 2008. If they don’t, I’m afraid that M-1 will be losing status faster than Fedor.
by arodofiron on Jan 2, 2008 1:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tim Silvia has been losing status with me since that boring ass Brandon Vera fight
Really? What took you so long?
by pw on Jan 2, 2008 1:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor would have to fight Timmy before he can destroy him. Otherwise it is just talk. At least Timmy is willing to fight people that aren’t from a circus freakshow.
by Trsigley on Jan 2, 2008 1:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
WOW! I need really cared for Big Tim, but I had never lost respect for him until now. Yes Timmy, keep on talking trash… I can’t wait to see what Fedor will do to your fat ass if he ever signs with the UFC.
WAR FEDOR! WAR GSP!
by evangelion27 on Jan 2, 2008 1:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Call me crazy, but I think Timmy would have a chance if he fought Fedor IN THE UFC. If Timmy fought Fedor in the cage with elbows being legal, he could take Fedor. I would give Fedor the edge otherwise. I’m not completely sold on Fedor. Crocop said that the elbows were a big reason he got knocked out by Gonzaga. I think having legal elbows makes a huge difference. If Matt Lindland can open Fedor up, Timmy can too.
by Andy on Jan 2, 2008 1:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
fedor is a pussy and should fight in the best (UFC) to prove he is the best. Thats like the best basketball player not going to the nba. He just playes street ball
by fucemup on Jan 2, 2008 1:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I Timmy loses to Big NOG, his contract will probably be ended since he’s nobody’s favorite fighter. Then he can sign with M-1 and find out how big of a pussy Fedor is. I think it would be a pretty exciting fight. Another awkwardly sized opponent for Fedor, just with a much better skill set
R u nuts? Fedor’s easiest opponents are Big, Tall lanky fighters that he can easily take down and MAUL!!!! Lets not forget, back when Tim was Champ, Fedor was trying to do a cross promo fight against Sylvia but the Dana and Sylvia are the ones that declined the offer. Fedor will fight anyone, and why shouldnt he? No one has yet to even come close to beating him with the exception of Kevin Randleman, who suplexed Fedor on his Head back in 2004, then Fedor just got up and I believe he submitted him. The only other time Fedor was close to loosing was againt Fujita who cracked him and made him do the fish dance, and then the Russian Experiment took over. Please no one try and come on here and tell me that cro cop almost beat him cuz it wasnt even close. Fedor bullied cro cop around the Pride ring for 20 minute. Fedor opened up the second round with the one of the nastiest 7 hit combo’s I have ever seen. Fedor’s was was a little lumped up at the end of the fight, but since when do we judge a fight on the way the fighters faces look after the fight? that fight wasnt even close.
People try and say he has never fought anyone, but guess what, for years Pride had the top 3 Heavyweight in the world, all Ranked over Randy, timmy, Arlovski and any other Heavyweight that was ever under contract with the UFC. Cro cop and Noguerra who Fedor ran through like they were Lightweights.
Fedor is by far the best Heavyweight in the world….and no one is a close second! I do not understand why Randy retired. He had a shot at a big match up against Noguerra who was ALWAYS ranked higher then Randy. I love Randy but was it really that impressive that he dominated Tim? I dontt think so. Tim hasnt had a decent performance since the 2nd Arlovski fight. I was way more impressed at how Randy beat Gonzaga then when he beat Tim who has all the physical advantages in the world…and still fights like a pussy.
During Interviews fighters are always asked who the best fighter in the world is and probably 97% of the time that question was asked in an interview, the fighter being interviewed answered with one quick word….FEDOR ( I have heard this said by BJ, Rampage, Noguerra, Verra, Randy, Franklin and many other fighters). As a matter of fact Verra said the only man alive that doesnt have any wholes in his game was Fedor.
TIM………Shut your trap, ya-big-dummy!
by john on Jan 2, 2008 1:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Timmy would never reject a fight with Fedor. Only smart fans will realize this not Fedor nuthuggers like you.
Timmy is right. Accept it.
Ok, then it was Dana…
by zheka on Jan 2, 2008 1:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Timmy Webfoot is talking trash?!?! Yeah Sure..Fedor is the man. Tim is shook of Fedor. One thing Tim right about is Fedor needs to fight top tier fighter’s..but with ufc/Dana offerring Fedor a million dollars or so in exchange of being a slave..Fedor gave Dana the finger. Fedor says he wants to fight the best..in the last 5 years he hasn’t been ducking anyone..it’s just the state of MMA..which is F’d up a bit. If Dana doesn’t want to do any cross promotion fights with Free Agents..Fedor will only be able to fight Top Free Agents..He should fight Josh Barnett soon..but after Josh who will he fight?? 92 percent of the top heavy weights fight exsculsively fot the ufc..I think he is the top heavy weight in the world currently..I’m a fan of his..how long will he have that title?? not for long …cuz ufc and Fedor couldn’t find common ground. Just to note Fedor never considered himselfas the top hw..the fan’s did.
PhilQNY: u r one of the only people on this Thread, that truly gets it…..Keep doing what u do playa!! Most pro athletes only care about the money, it is so refreshing that a top fighter didnt become a whore just cuz Dana was throwing some change at him. Blame Dana for his UNREASONABLE contract demands( trying to enslave Fedor), not Fedor… Some fighters are money whores….look at Randy, he would have fought until he was 60 years old for the kind of money Fedor was offered….. Do you Fedor, u r the best Heavyweight if not fighter in the world!
by john on Jan 2, 2008 1:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I really don’t care what Tim has to say abotu Fedor, although i respect what he’s accomplished, Fedor is starting to become a joke in the sport. I mean, he just fought a guy who is 1-1 or whatever…. a straight joke. Supposedly #2 in the sport fighting the bottom of the pit fighters? Whoever thinks Fedor is siting at the top is a joke 2.
by carnage on Jan 2, 2008 1:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
but then again we might see Kazushi Sakuraba fight Rickson Gracie soon.[/quote]
That was a present that never made it under the tree.
by PhilQNY on Jan 2, 2008 1:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know. I don’t take a lot of what Sylvia says for anything. Did M1 not offer a cross promotion fight where Couture fights Fedor? I think M1 is willing to do the cross promotion thing but the UFC isn’t…Or Dana is being a b**** because Fedor didn’t sign with the UFC.
by shadyone33 on Jan 2, 2008 1:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You know you are ducking when you have the best fighters(Randy and others) chasing you around the world(US to Russia to Japan etc)just to get a fight with you. If he was a man, Fedor would make sacrifices(put off sambo)and oh don’t give SAMBO is his life bullshit, if MMA isn’t his life he shouldn’t be fighting in it. Anyway, he would go out and fight the best so there wouldn’t be so much controversy!
Then you will see a LOSS!!
by wwerealm on Jan 2, 2008 1:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
As a matter of fact Verra said the only man alive that doesnt have any wholes in his game was Fedor.
john, It’s not the holes in his game that will cause him to lose. It will be the holes in his face.
I’ve read some of your posts about Fedor on other threads. I don’t think you’re being objective. I think anyone who questions Fedor’s ability or heart isn’t being fair. Fedor is as talented as they come. But you have to admit that a fighter can’t be the best pound for pound, without fighting the best, which Fedor has not done for the last two years(excepting Mark Hunt). I don’t blame Fedor for not signing with the UFC and I definitely don’t think he’s a pussy. But, he can’t be considered the best pound for pound or top heavyweight anymore either.
by Andy on Jan 2, 2008 1:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Everybody wants to come on here and say that this person was ranked that, but forget about whats on paper and look at the fighters themselves!!! Fedor is great. Randy is back and has proved it by fighting the man that KTFO Mirko Cro Cop who fought NOG who was being Dominated Until he was able to submit cro cop. NOG fought Heath Herring who was badly beaten by crop cop and looked like horse crap against the Texan.
Heath had the bout in the bag but dropped the ball when he didn’t mount Nog and finish the once long time Pride Champ.
I think Fedor needs to prove to all his fans that he’s not a punk, if not i’m afraid you guys are in for a HuGE dissapointment.
by carnage on Jan 2, 2008 1:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You know you are ducking when you have the best fighters(Randy and others) chasing you around the world(US to Russia to Japan etc)just to get a fight with you. If he was a man, Fedor would make sacrifices(put off sambo)and oh don’t give SAMBO is his life bullshit, if MMA isn’t his life he shouldn’t be fighting in it. Anyway, he would go out and fight the best so there wouldn’t be so much controversy!
Then you will see a LOSS!!
You’re being ridiculous. He should have signed the ridiculous contract that UFC presented him? If what Fedor says is true (and I’m sure you won’t believe it is, since you are obviously biased and will probably look for any opportunity to bury him), the UFC wanted full exclusivity (no Sambo, which you’ve already downplayed), an automatic contract renewal (for the same amount of money and for an undetermined amount of time) if Fedor remained undefeated (which he probably would have), and the ability to back out of the contract at any time for any reason. If even half of that is true, it’s ridiculous.
While I do agree that Fedor should be taking on more serious competition, to say that he should simply sign with the UFC “just because” is pretty much bullshit.
Also, talent “chasing him” around the world isn’t indicative of Fedor ducking anybody. It’s just a necessary evil because of contracts and politics.
by Ben! on Jan 2, 2008 1:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
92 percent of the top heavy weights fight exsculsively fot the ufc
In the UFC:
Tim Sylvia – top-tier competitor
Gabriel Gonzaga – beat one top 10, lost to 2 others
Cheick Kongo – beat crocop, lost to carmelo marrera
Crocop – been there, done that
Big Nog – again? really?
Fabricio Werdum – Losses to Nog, Arlovski, and Kharitonov, but beat Gonzaga
Outside the UFC:
Josh Barnett – top tier competitor, can beat anyone not named crocop
Mark Hunt – been there, done that
Jeff Monson – Just had a ufc title shot a ltitle over a year ago, great grappler
Sergei Kharitonov – well-rounded and exciting fighter
On the fence:
Randy Couture – clearly the biggest draw on this list, admits himself that Fedor is the only fight left for him, which says alot about the talent pool in the ufc. Doesn’t even want to be in the UFC anymore
Andrei Arlovski – Again, may be making an exit from the UFC soon. With one fight left on his contract the negotiations have come to a standstill.
These two, along with Tim, are by far the biggest draws in the UFC HW division when talent levels and matchups with Fedor are concerned. If they leave, then the UFC HW division is back to the way it was.
In conclusion, think before you speak, Id say it’s about half anf half talent wise right now, with whatever side will claim Randy and Andrei being a stronger group. Certainly nowhere near 92%
by Adam Green on Jan 2, 2008 1:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor would destroe sylvia and then some
I bet that not just Fedor…Hong Man Choi can kick his ass…
by arturo_caap on Jan 2, 2008 1:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is why Randy wanted to kick the shit out of Sylvia and take his belt because he is a punk outside of the ring,as evidenced by this statement (amongst many others).
In my opinion Tim doesnt represent well, he is rude and lazy, lacks work ethics in and out of the gym.
Carrying the belt around with him to clubs, what an idiot.
by Tobias808 on Jan 2, 2008 1:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
john, It’s not the holes in his game that will cause him to lose. It will be the holes in his face.
I’ve read some of your posts about Fedor on other threads. I don’t think you’re being objective. I think anyone who questions Fedor’s ability or heart isn’t being fair. Fedor is as talented as they come. But you have to admit that a fighter can’t be the best pound for pound, without fighting the best, which Fedor has not done for the last two years(excepting Mark Hunt). I don’t blame Fedor for not signing with the UFC and I definitely don’t think he’s a pussy. But, he can’t be considered the best pound for pound or top heavyweight anymore either.
Who is better than Fedor?? Randy? Tim who didn’t want to fight him before? Nog…who is fighting for the Interim Hw ufc title..who loss to fedor already? Josh Barnett? Fedor is 27-1 5yr HH champ of PrideFc..truthfully he hasn’t fought top tier guys cuz of the flux with mma/ufc in 2007. If the ufc’s HW division is the best in the world, who is the number one Hw in the world?? the only name that keeps coming up is " FEDOR "
by PhilQNY on Jan 2, 2008 1:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
R u nuts? Fedor’s easiest opponents are Big, Tall lanky fighters that he can easily take down and MAUL!!!! Lets not forget, back when Tim was Champ, Fedor was trying to do a cross promo fight against Sylvia but the Dana and Sylvia are the ones that declined the offer. Fedor will fight anyone, and why shouldnt he? No one has yet to even come close to beating him with the exception of Kevin Randleman, who suplexed Fedor on his Head back in 2004, then Fedor just got up and I believe he submitted him. The only other time Fedor was close to loosing was againt Fujita who cracked him and made him do the fish dance, and then the Russian Experiment took over. Please no one try and come on here and tell me that cro cop almost beat him cuz it wasnt even close. Fedor bullied cro cop around the Pride ring for 20 minute. Fedor opened up the second round with the one of the nastiest 7 hit combo’s I have ever seen. Fedor’s was was a little lumped up at the end of the fight, but since when do we judge a fight on the way the fighters faces look after the fight? that fight wasnt even close.
People try and say he has never fought anyone, but guess what, for years Pride had the top 3 Heavyweight in the world, all Ranked over Randy, timmy, Arlovski and any other Heavyweight that was ever under contract with the UFC. Cro cop and Noguerra who Fedor ran through like they were Lightweights.
Fedor is by far the best Heavyweight in the world….and no one is a close second! I do not understand why Randy retired. He had a shot at a big match up against Noguerra who was ALWAYS ranked higher then Randy. I love Randy but was it really that impressive that he dominated Tim? I dontt think so. Tim hasnt had a decent performance since the 2nd Arlovski fight. I was way more impressed at how Randy beat Gonzaga then when he beat Tim who has all the physical advantages in the world…and still fights like a pussy.
During Interviews fighters are always asked who the best fighter in the world is and probably 97% of the time that question was asked in an interview, the fighter being interviewed answered with one quick word….FEDOR ( I have heard this said by BJ, Rampage, Noguerra, Verra, Randy, Franklin and many other fighters). As a matter of fact Verra said the only man alive that doesnt have any wholes in his game was Fedor.
TIM………Shut your trap, ya-big-dummy!
John, I’m not sure what was nuts about my comment. I didn’t say Tim would beat Fedor. I said it would be an exciting fight and Tim has a better skillset than Choi. I also have noticed that several fighters say that Fedor is the best.
by JamesS on Jan 2, 2008 2:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Call me crazy, but I think Timmy would have a chance if he fought Fedor IN THE UFC. If Timmy fought Fedor in the cage with elbows being legal, he could take Fedor. I would give Fedor the edge otherwise. I’m not completely sold on Fedor. Crocop said that the elbows were a big reason he got knocked out by Gonzaga. I think having legal elbows makes a huge difference. If Matt Lindland can open Fedor up, Timmy can too.
Excuse me but when has Tim ever thrown an elbow? Can oyu imagine Fedor’s world class ground n pound with elbows added to it? Cro cop has no gound game, thats y the elbows affected him.
by john on Jan 2, 2008 2:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Fedor/Couture fight will not be happening anytime soon. If Dana wants to get Fedor signed he will have to wait until M1 bankrupt and no longer viable therefore making the fight contracts null and void. Then the UFC will be the only one with enough scratch to sign the Russian. So for the UFC and M1 to do a cross-promotional show or just a loan would be counterproductive to that goal.
Just settle in folks, it’s going to be a while before we see Fedor in the Octagon.
by A Lynch on Jan 2, 2008 2:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
In my opinion Randy should be considered # 1 due to the manner the was able to TOTALLY Dominate TIM SYLVIA, who most people don’t like but have to understand he defended that belt very well. Not only that, He also DoMInated NAPAO, a bigger physically stronger man who devastated Mirko on the ground and on top and who was ranked #3 in Pride.
Randy is number one and it’s due to the depth of his recent opposition.
by carnage on Jan 2, 2008 2:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Who is better than Fedor?? Randy? Tim who didn’t want to fight him before? Nog…who is fighting for the Interim Hw ufc title..who loss to fedor already? Josh Barnett? Fedor is 27-1 5yr HH champ of PrideFc..truthfully he hasn’t fought top tier guys cuz of the flux with mma/ufc in 2007. If the ufc’s HW division is the best in the world, who is the number one Hw in the world?? the only name that keeps coming up is " FEDOR "
I would’ve said Randy was the best. He had the best 2007 of any heavyweight. As he sits out though, he loses his position and momentum. Personally, I think Gonzaga is the best heavyweight outside of Randy. I think Randy and Gonzaga could beat Fedor.
I’m not bashing Fedor. I like Fedor a lot. I like how he fights, I like his humility, and I like the respect he shows his competition. He’s a great fighter, but he chose loyalty to his team and country over status. I can respect that. But, being considered a top fighter must be earned. He has done nothing to earn that status since his fight with Crocop in 2005.
by Andy on Jan 2, 2008 2:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
In the UFC:
Tim Sylvia – top-tier competitor
Gabriel Gonzaga – beat one top 10, lost to 2 others
Cheick Kongo – beat crocop, lost to carmelo marrera
Crocop – been there, done that
Big Nog – again? really?
Fabricio Werdum – Losses to Nog, Arlovski, and Kharitonov, but beat GonzagaOutside the UFC:
Josh Barnett – top tier competitor, can beat anyone not named crocop
Mark Hunt – been there, done that
Jeff Monson – Just had a ufc title shot a ltitle over a year ago, great grappler
Sergei Kharitonov – well-rounded and exciting fighterOn the fence:
Randy Couture – clearly the biggest draw on this list, admits himself that Fedor is the only fight left for him, which says alot about the talent pool in the ufc. Doesn’t even want to be in the UFC anymore
Andrei Arlovski – Again, may be making an exit from the UFC soon. With one fight left on his contract the negotiations have come to a standstill.
These two, along with Tim, are by far the biggest draws in the UFC HW division when talent levels and matchups with Fedor are concerned. If they leave, then the UFC HW division is back to the way it was.In conclusion, think before you speak, Id say it’s about half anf half talent wise right now, with whatever side will claim Randy and Andrei being a stronger group. Certainly nowhere near 92%
Hey I was just giving a ruff number..my point being almost all of the top ranked Hw’s..fight and/ or have contract pending with the ufc..thx for helping me point that out.
by PhilQNY on Jan 2, 2008 2:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So what youre saying is that if Fedor gets KO’ed twice by a lightheavyweight, then moves back to heavyweight and beats tim sylvia then the VASTLY overrated Gabe Gonzaga, only then can he be ranked #1?
by Adam Green on Jan 2, 2008 2:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Sylvia here. How could you not? Fedor is in danger of becoming a travelling “circus act”.
by Muscle Dolphin on Jan 2, 2008 2:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Your “ruff” number was 92% when its about 67% at best! And a few of those fighters Fedor already beat! All I’m trying to say is that Fedor doesn’t exactly need to prove himself to the UFC HW division, there are just as many good fights outside of it as there are in it
by Adam Green on Jan 2, 2008 2:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You know you are ducking when you have the best fighters(Randy and others) chasing you around the world(US to Russia to Japan etc)just to get a fight with you. If he was a man, Fedor would make sacrifices(put off sambo)and oh don’t give SAMBO is his life bullshit, if MMA isn’t his life he shouldn’t be fighting in it. Anyway, he would go out and fight the best so there wouldn’t be so much controversy!
Then you will see a LOSS!!
Dude…what controversy? Its only a contoversy hear in the USA. U think Fedor cares what us American fans have to say (espcially since we are the most ignorrant sport fans in the world). Fedor has never even fought in America, why would he care what we say. For those who havent noticed..there is a whole world outside of the USA, and whether we like it or not, the rest of the mma fans in the world believe he is the best. Also yes Randy is dying to fight him, but as of lately randy has gone in an outspoken attack mode and he not once Blamed Fedor for not signing with the UFC. Maybe if Randy said Fedor was ducking him it may be an issue, but he doesnt…Dana is the only one too blame for not having Fedor fight in the UFC
Wy should he care about our oppinions, when there are still idiots on this site who think Tito is still the man….get a clue, until someone beats him he is the best in the world and not cause I say so, but because all the top fighters say so, and who would know better then them?
by john on Jan 2, 2008 2:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey I was just giving a ruff number..my point being almost all of the top ranked Hw’s..fight and/ or have contract pending with the ufc..thx for helping me point that out.
haha, please.. Jeff Monson?? He didn’t even deserve a title shot. The UFC’s HW division was just THAT bare when the fight came around. I mean, c’mon.. a retired LHW Randy Couture got the next title shot after that, because there was no one else. They couldn’t have ANOTHER AA/Sylvia. Monson was just in the right place at the right time. And he was a part of one of the most boring fights in UFC history.
Jeff Monson, lol..
The only one on your list that even matters is Barnett.. and guess what?? Barnett wants to be in the UFC!!!
so, in conclusion.. you wasted way too much time on that list.
by R-Dizzle on Jan 2, 2008 2:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tim Sylvia is weak. Nobody will talk about him anymore after Nog gets done with him.
by bostonmmajunkie on Jan 2, 2008 2:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dude…what controversy? Its only a contoversy hear in the USA. U think Fedor cares what us American fans have to say (espcially since we are the most ignorrant sport fans in the world). Fedor has never even fought in America, why would he care what we say. For those who havent noticed..there is a whole world outside of the USA, and whether we like it or not, the rest of the mma fans in the world believe he is the best. Also yes Randy is dying to fight him, but as of lately randy has gone in an outspoken attack mode and he not once Blamed Fedor for not signing with the UFC. Maybe if Randy said Fedor was ducking him it may be an issue, but he doesnt…Dana is the only one too blame for not having Fedor fight in the UFC
Wy should he care about our oppinions, when there are still idiots on this site who think Tito is still the man….get a clue, until someone beats him he is the best in the world and not cause I say so, but because all the top fighters say so, and who would know better then them?
Answer : Dana White
..just joking. real good post John. 2008 and bro no Tito apprentice nuthugging fans can stop us now. It is what it is..Fedor is number 1..numero uno!!
by PhilQNY on Jan 2, 2008 2:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
but then again we might see Kazushi Sakuraba fight Rickson Gracie soon.
Are you seriuos? Who would risk loosing to the submission master? Even Anderson would loose to this crazy mofo.
by NewGuyTheGunMan on Jan 2, 2008 2:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know the title of the song Fedor comes out to??
by PhilQNY on Jan 2, 2008 2:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would’ve said Randy was the best. He had the best 2007 of any heavyweight. As he sits out though, he loses his position and momentum. Personally, I think Gonzaga is the best heavyweight outside of Randy. I think Randy and Gonzaga could beat Fedor.
I’m not bashing Fedor. I like Fedor a lot. I like how he fights, I like his humility, and I like the respect he shows his competition. He’s a great fighter, but he chose loyalty to his team and country over status. I can respect that. But, being considered a top fighter must be earned. He has done nothing to earn that status since his fight with Crocop in 2005.
Yeah but since then, who has any other HW beaten?
Randy beat an over rated Sylvia with a bad back and Gonzaga (who I admit was a great win).
Tim dry humped his way to snoozefest decision wins over a mentally broken down Arlovski, a outsized Verra (who didnt fight for a whole year prior to that fight, and Monson.
Gonzaga beat a one trick pony cro cop and lost to Randy.
Verra has done nothing at heavyweight
Werdum’s UFC highlight was literally Bitch slapping Arlovski in the face
Noguerra beat Herring for the 3rd time ?(whoisnt even top 10)
Kongo has one decent win against Cro cop
Arlovski as talented as he is has broken down mentally, he was even gun shy when fightin werdum who’s stand up is non exsistent
Hunt lost to Fedor, Yoshida, he beat cro cop and an undersized wanderle
If Fedor has done nothing to deserve to be #1 HW in the world then who has? Lets be honest, the HW division is probaly the worst in the sport and the only people with a realistic shot at beating the Russian experiment are Barnett (who has ducked Fedor so far), Gonzaga, and Randy…..so if Fedor lost all those fight at worst Fedor would be ranked 4th in the world…Is that really terrible?
by john on Jan 2, 2008 2:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The only thing Im questioning is why everyone seems to think that all the talent as far as heavyweights go is in the ufc. I just said that the UFC currently has MORE, but clearly not all of it, and if Randy and Arlovski go, then the scales tip to outside of the UFC.
by Adam Green on Jan 2, 2008 2:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know the title of the song Fedor comes out to??
I dont know but Bas Rutten LOVES that song.
by john on Jan 2, 2008 2:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dude…what controversy? Its only a contoversy hear in the USA. U think Fedor cares what us American fans have to say (espcially since we are the most ignorrant sport fans in the world). Fedor has never even fought in America, why would he care what we say. For those who havent noticed..there is a whole world outside of the USA, and whether we like it or not, the rest of the mma fans in the world believe he is the best. Also yes Randy is dying to fight him, but as of lately randy has gone in an outspoken attack mode and he not once Blamed Fedor for not signing with the UFC. Maybe if Randy said Fedor was ducking him it may be an issue, but he doesnt…Dana is the only one too blame for not having Fedor fight in the UFC
Wy should he care about our oppinions, when there are still idiots on this site who think Tito is still the man….get a clue, until someone beats him he is the best in the world and not cause I say so, but because all the top fighters say so, and who would know better then them?
First of all, what makes American fans the most ignorant?
Secondly, did I miss the ceremony when Fedor was dubbed the MMA king? So, if Fedor fights cans the rest of his career, he holds the title as pound for pound king regardless? That’s foolish. In this line of work, it’s not what you have done, it’s what have you done lately. This rings true especially in MMA. This is a sport that’s growing exponentially. That means a lot more talent is entering the fold. Fedor can’t sit on his accomplishments. He needs to continue to prove himself. That’s life in the world of athletics.
by Andy on Jan 2, 2008 2:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Whoever said that Fedor even cares about his rank? He lives his life according to his rules, not yours Timmy. Just b/c you’re a puppet of Dana’s doesn’t mean Fedor will sell out to him too. If you want to know why he’s not fighting top contenders, talk to your boy Dana. If he’s a pussy, what does that make you since he’d hand you your ass easily if you ever fought him.
FUNNY CONSIDERING HE/MANAGEMENT SAID THEY WOULD NOT WANT TO FIGHT HIM. Really Tim is right when he said that you have to continue to compete against the best to keep the status. Fedor is great but he needs a quality opponent
by Jorgito on Jan 2, 2008 2:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Are you seriuos? Who would risk loosing to the submission master? Even Anderson would loose to this crazy mofo.
This was such a talked about fight..especially when Saku beat Royler..and 3 other Gracies..but around that time his Son Rockson passed away..I’m sure his head was far from fighting. Now Rickson is 50 something and Saku is 40 something..even if these two masters never fight..I wouldn’t mind seeing them in a no gi grappling fight.
by PhilQNY on Jan 2, 2008 2:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Timmy.
Yeah, I actually do too. I usually don’t, but Timmy has a point here.
by Mahde on Jan 2, 2008 2:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oldest trick in the book. Tim is just trying to get a shot at him.
by grembone on Jan 2, 2008 2:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone know the title of the song Fedor comes out to??
I belive it’s ELIA… You can find an exact name on youtube, just type in “fedor’s enterance”
by zheka on Jan 2, 2008 3:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaahahahahahahahahahhaahahhahahahaahhaahahahahahahahahah FEDOR WOULD KICK TIMMYS ASS BLINDFOLDED…….and then some
by uso on Jan 2, 2008 3:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I belive it’s ELIA… You can find an exact name on youtube, just type in “fedor’s enterance”
thx.
by PhilQNY on Jan 2, 2008 3:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
until someone beats him he is the best in the world and not cause I say so, but because all the top fighters say so, and who would know better then them?
Exactly! But it is going to be very hard for Fedor to lose if he is fighting in M-1 and both Fedor’s management and M-1 both have to agree on his opponents. Right now, Fedor is obviously thier biggest attraction. They will not be putting his undefeated record at risk against anyone, except for Randy Couture. But Dana will do everything in his power to not allow that to happen.
by ViolentMike on Jan 2, 2008 3:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Could Fedor and Randy be enticed/allowed to enter the ADCC tournament in 2009? That would be amazing to see.
by A Lynch on Jan 2, 2008 3:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lets be honest, Fedor is not fighting in the UFC because he wants the freedom to fight in other places too. Look whats happening to Arlovski, who is to say that Fedor couldnt be in that position in the future if he was to sign with the UFC. I know it would be hard but if their main man Couture says the UFC fighters are treated like shit, Arlovski himself is being treated like garbage after all he has done, you can understand Fedors resistance in joining the UFC.
by JJ on Jan 2, 2008 3:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor has fought a bunch of old UFC washups.
A bunch of asian nobody’s and old UFC wahsups.
Theres your Pride HW Champ.
by carnage on Jan 2, 2008 3:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Call me crazy, but I think Timmy would have a chance if he fought Fedor IN THE UFC. If Timmy fought Fedor in the cage with elbows being legal, he could take Fedor. I would give Fedor the edge otherwise. I’m not completely sold on Fedor. Crocop said that the elbows were a big reason he got knocked out by Gonzaga. I think having legal elbows makes a huge difference. If Matt Lindland can open Fedor up, Timmy can too.
I wrote this yesterday about Gonzaga being able to cut through FEdor, some said I was smking crack. But I think Tim for the same reason would stand a good chance. First off Tim size. Fedo I think would struggle with his weight in the take down. He has excellent take down defense, one of the best jabs in the game. Linland had him open in seconds. Hong Man had him open in 2 punches. Syvia may not be the prettiest or most aggressive since win the belt, but his stlye is effective and that is all that counts. No way would he fall into the armbar the same way Hong man did. Hell if Fedor did not hang on to the ropes for dea life the 3 times Linland went to slam him (god forbid the Ref. say anything to Fedor in Moscow for blatently holding the ropes 3 times) the fight may have gone a different way. I am not saying Linland would have won but I think it would have been a much better fight. Also the simple fact that Fedor doesn’t fight in a cage and is not used to eating elbows is a huge fact. If anyone thinks eating an elbow for the first time does not take you out of your game ask Cro Cop or Sudjoku(who was basically out before MAchida even cranked around the arm triangle). This is MMA, we have seen a year of upsets especially fromt he “PRIDE” guys. I loved PRIDE to. But if you do not think the level of comepetion in the UFC is that much better just ask, Wandy, Cro Cop, Shogun, Heath Herring, and what ever other PRIDE turned UFC fighters who have dissapointed all of us pride us and have made the competition look silly…What competition? If Tim cuts though Nog then we should have a pretty could indication of where Fedor stands. Timmy could and would stand with any heavyweight out there. I am not even a big fan of his but it works.
by Da Monkey on Jan 2, 2008 3:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tim is boring, and fedor fights in the circus
by UFCmn89 on Jan 2, 2008 3:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Check out this pic from Sakuraba’s website. This was apparently from the K-1 Dynamite event in September, and take a look at who’s presenting Saku with flowers and congratulations.
http://www.saku39.com/06photo/070917/ph07.html
The look on Saku’s face is priceless.
It’s really sad that when people talk about “dream” fights, they kinda forget about the big ones. When we do get maybe one or two “dream” fights, delays caused by greedy fuckers trying to get a bigger piece of the action to the poiint where we have a guy who used to be champion fighting another guy who used to be champion.
Yawn.
by Korean Avenger on Jan 2, 2008 3:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If anyone cares, here’s a link to the Fedor New Year’s Eve Sideshow Spectacular. http://www.pancrase.org/yarennoka-video-fedor-emelianenko-vs-hong-man-choi/12-31-2007/
by pw on Jan 2, 2008 3:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Big talk from a guy that recently got his butt handed to him by a 40 ’r and fought in a yawner against Vera. Fedor would destroy him in the first round.
The only reason Fedor is not here is because he’s smart. The money is there to be made outside the UFC cage. And, who’d want to be under Dana’s thumb. He might be a fighter but he’s no idiot. Anyone that takes a moment to look at the way the UFC is really run would steer clear. Don’t get me wrong. I love the UFC but there is more to it than meets the eye as fighters are getting out as quickly as they can.
by Drew on Jan 2, 2008 3:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Who cares what this ex paper champ has to say…Fedor has charisma and status that big puppy never even dreamed.Another Dana puppet trying to bring the best fighter ever to their bussines…I gues when Fedor knocks down Couture or Tim’s fat ass we all gonna be pleased hearing Joe Rogan say that they slipped [like Wandy vs Chuck].Go back on taking steroids and do some real workouts and then maybe you’ll have a chance at Fedor Timmi boy.
by bullfighter 3 on Jan 2, 2008 3:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tim is boring, and fedor fights in the circus
HaHa That us the best thing I heard all day….Thanks =)
by Da Monkey on Jan 2, 2008 3:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
But if you do not think the level of comepetion in the UFC is that much better just ask, Wandy, Cro Cop, Shogun, Heath Herring, and what ever other PRIDE turned UFC fighters who have dissapointed all of us pride us and have made the competition look silly…What competition?
Its funny people say the UFC fighters are better than pride fighters and whatever. If the rules from pride were taken into the octagon id guarantee that these results would be much diferent. Most people would agree. Look at how past UFC fighters have faired in Japan with the original ring. I would love to see a rematch with Shogun vs Forrest, Wandy vs Liddel and the list goes on, in a ring with pride rules. Come on UFC, if you are so confident that your fighters are better in any situation prove it and just have a one off UFC event in the normal ring with Former Pride vs UFC fighters.
by JJ on Jan 2, 2008 3:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
thats the same guy who cried because Matt Hughes doesn’t like him right.
by suspiria on Jan 2, 2008 3:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Big talk from a guy that recently got his butt handed to him by a 40 ’r and fought in a yawner against Vera. Fedor would destroy him in the first round.
The only reason Fedor is not here is because he’s smart. The money is there to be made outside the UFC cage. And, who’d want to be under Dana’s thumb. He might be a fighter but he’s no idiot. Anyone that takes a moment to look at the way the UFC is really run would steer clear. Don’t get me wrong. I love the UFC but there is more to it than meets the eye as fighters are getting out as quickly as they can.
What Fighters are getting out as quickly as they can? Randy! He is the only one running from it. Why are all the pride guys(Rampage-Wandy-Shogun-Cro Cop=Big Nog-Hendo-Linland wants in-u get the point)coming? There is only a handful of real good (I will say decent-since success has not really followed the PRide guys over)fighters not signed with UFC. I am sure with time the will sign to…
by Da Monkey on Jan 2, 2008 3:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Check out this pic from Sakuraba’s website. This was apparently from the K-1 Dynamite event in September, and take a look at who’s presenting Saku with flowers and congratulations.
http://www.saku39.com/06photo/070917/ph07.html
The look on Saku’s face is priceless.
It’s really sad that when people talk about “dream” fights, they kinda forget about the big ones. When we do get maybe one or two “dream” fights, delays caused by greedy fuckers trying to get a bigger piece of the action to the poiint where we have a guy who used to be champion fighting another guy who used to be champion.
Yawn.
Rickson looked like he wanted to tear into Saku…not give him flowers.
by PhilQNY on Jan 2, 2008 4:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Rickson looked like he wanted to tear into Saku…not give him flowers.
When does Rickson NEVER look like he wants to tear into something?
by Korean Avenger on Jan 2, 2008 4:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is a gutless roadsweeper fighting bum. Randy would OWN him in a fight but that will NOT happen cos fedor knows that….ER Randy will own him :)
by MrAngry on Jan 2, 2008 4:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Its funny people say the UFC fighters are better than pride fighters and whatever. If the rules from pride were taken into the octagon id guarantee that these results would be much diferent. Most people would agree. Look at how past UFC fighters have faired in Japan with the original ring. I would love to see a rematch with Shogun vs Forrest, Wandy vs Liddel and the list goes on, in a ring with pride rules. Come on UFC, if you are so confident that your fighters are better in any situation prove it and just have a one off UFC event in the normal ring with Former Pride vs UFC fighters.
Shogun lost becuase he gased. HAd nothing to do with rules. He was in fetal holding on to forrests legs in the middle of the second round(I was embaassed Shogun was one of my favorite fighters-I talked so much shit about how shogun was going to cut through Forrest that my mouth tased like crap for weeks after that loss). Henderson did well from UFC to PRide back to UFC. Liddell and Wandy. It was not till last 2 minutes of second round that an elbow came to play, so Wandy did not get to soccer kick 1 or 2 times. The rest of that fight was on there feet. I would love to to see it go both ways UFC vs. PRide rings/cage rules follow. Nick Diaz, even went to Pride there rules and beat there champ and Diaz is not even the best guy in that weight class in the ufc.
by Da Monkey on Jan 2, 2008 4:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
tim sylvia has fought recently:
-brandon vera, win by decision, boring fight.
-randy couture, loss, got owned.
-jeff monson, win, decision, boring
- 3x-andrei arlovski, 2 wins, 1 loss, the last a decision and a snoooooozefest
fedor has fought and destroyed nogueria twice! cro cop, herring, fujita, coleman, randleman, arona, sobral, and matt lindland. not too mention a host of other opponents. he has also beaten semmy shilt a larger and more skilled striker than sylvia.
tim “human blanket” sylvia has no right to call fedor a p***y or too call him out in facing “lesser” opponents. tim sylvia has fought a bunch of cans and his only notable opponents are vera, monson, and arlovski, the majority of his fights are extremely boring and the majority of his wins he was taking steroids which caused him to be stripped of his title. (look at the pics from when he was on roids compared to now). he even crapped his pants in a fight. fedor has never lost a fight and has fought much tougher opponents than sylvia.
fedor exudes excellence and would destroy tim in a fight.
here are three great fedor highlights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83WVgq7XaJI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3ddenYD7yQ&feature=related
and the best one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1iit53fkQM
by Erdo on Jan 2, 2008 4:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So the “has been” gives a quote…someone miss seeing his name in the media and blogs?
Have you ever noticed the top ranked respectful fighters simply don’t speak in such a way.
Fedor would armbar TIMMAH by the second round.
by Doc on Jan 2, 2008 4:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is a pussy and is scared to fight anyone good!
by CaptainAmerica1967 on Jan 2, 2008 4:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor would most likely reck sylvia, but timmys right. Fedor hasnt fought anybody lately. To be the best, you have to beat the best, and he hasnt. Let him beat Couture, which i dont think he can, then we’ll see how great he really is. Im not saying he isnt the best, he could be, but lets see him fight some noteworthy opponents again then see whats up
randy vs fedor ….fedor will destroy randy and im a couture fan btw
by Joe on Jan 2, 2008 5:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why does everyone feel so obligated to defend grown men? I don’t care what you think of the UFC or M-1 or any other org for that matter. If you are a true mma fan, you have to be disgusted when someone of Fedor’s stature fights a circus freak. I don’t question Fedor’s Talent, he is the best. Which is why we (mma fans) want to see him fight someone that at least has respect in the heavyweight division. Forget the past, I know he’s beaten some of the best, but what if GSP ask to fight Gabe “Colonoscopy” Rudiger? It just ain’t right man, it just ain’t right.
by Jrandolph on Jan 2, 2008 5:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You can insult Tim about a lot of things, he’s physically ugly, he’s a boring fighter who is the biggest threat to the popularity of the ufc, and he’s a cheater, however, I’ll always respect him because he has never ducked a fight.
by Gregg on Jan 2, 2008 5:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m not a big Tim Sylvia fan,but Fedor does need to step up..I watched some of his fights from the past and he is a very good fighter.I’ll give Fedor that!I am though a huge Randy Couture fan! Fedor vs. Couture needs to happen! Dana needs to do what he has to to make it happen! It will be a great fight.I dont know what the offer Dana gave Fedor to come to the UFC but I cant imagine M1 would offer a better deal. The UFC in the best show out there with the best fighters in the world.To be the best you have to fight the best.Dana has to realize that if he doesnt work something out with M1 that Randy will just fight Fedor in M1 and Dana will be left out all together.Randy will just wait out his contract.
by Charlie on Jan 2, 2008 5:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
When will you guys learn??? Sho (lost to babalu and forest), Wandy (lost an exposed liddell, Crocop (one dimensional), Herring (Obrien), Gomi (lost to a ufc regect),
Nukarmu (fake top 10), Fujita (lost to a middel of the road monson), Even Nog looked like crap against Herring.
Everyone says “Oh Fedor and Nog fight better competition then Randy or Timmy”. How so?? Toughest guy Fedor fought was Nog and Lindland. There is a reason why Fedor himself says he wouldnt want to fight Couture because they could be freinds. Or timmy becasue its a bad matchup! Give me a f’in break
by patty melt on Jan 2, 2008 5:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see what all the fuss is about. Tim Sylvia isn’t questioning Fedor’s abilities or ranking, he’s just calling him a name for not fighting in the UFC and fighting guy’s that don’t have the best reputation. Tim’s a grown man and I believe all of us here have been exposed to some sort of cursing at one time or another, he’s calling him out! At least he didn’t go Kramer on him!
What I do believe is a big deal is the fact that Fedor didn’t sign with the UFC. Now, I know he has his reasons for signing with another organization that will allow him to fight with other promotions. But Fedor says he wants to fight the best and the best in the world are in the UFC, they may not have them all but they do have the most and more are coming, the UFC is considered the Gold Standard of the MMA world. Sign the standard four fight contract and prove your point and pick your poison. Tim Sylvia has a valid point: Fedor is NOT fighting the best! Undersized fighters like Matt Lindland and mismatched fighting novice Hong Man Choi make it look like Fedor just wants to protect that Win/Loss record. Come to the UFC and like Big John McCarthy used to say, “Let’s get it on!”
by Ray on Jan 2, 2008 5:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why does everyone feel so obligated to defend grown men? I don’t care what you think of the UFC or M-1 or any other org for that matter. If you are a true mma fan, you have to be disgusted when someone of Fedor’s stature fights a circus freak. I don’t question Fedor’s Talent, he is the best. Which is why we (mma fans) want to see him fight someone that at least has respect in the heavyweight division. Forget the past, I know he’s beaten some of the best, but what if GSP ask to fight Gabe “Colonoscopy” Rudiger? It just ain’t right man, it just ain’t right.
Agree. Mostly anyway, Randy will own Fedor 100% :)
by MrAngry on Jan 2, 2008 5:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Rickson looked like he wanted to tear into Saku…not give him flowers.
I would love to see Sakuraba take Rickson’s arm off with his legendary trademark Gracie family, arm snatching, Kimura of his. Rickson Gracie’s arm would be a great addition to Sakuraba’s collection. Too submit Rickson would be as big as Kimura himself submitting Helio. Rickson vs. Sakuraba, Now thats a Dream match! Would have been amazing like 4 years ago, but I’ll take it whenever I can.
by john on Jan 2, 2008 5:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agree. Mostly anyway, Randy will own Fedor 100%
:)
I hope you’re right.
by Jrandolph on Jan 2, 2008 5:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
First of all, what makes American fans the most ignorant?
Secondly, did I miss the ceremony when Fedor was dubbed the MMA king? So, if Fedor fights cans the rest of his career, he holds the title as pound for pound king regardless? That’s foolish. In this line of work, it’s not what you have done, it’s what have you done lately. This rings true especially in MMA. This is a sport that’s growing exponentially. That means a lot more talent is entering the fold. Fedor can’t sit on his accomplishments. He needs to continue to prove himself. That’s life in the world of athletics.
Andy, Fedor is number #1 because a couple of years ago he ran through the Pride Heavyweight division, which consisted of Fighters ranked higher then all the UFC heavyweights. I mean he steamrolled over everyone. I will be the 1st to admit that his opponents in the past year and a half have been less then stellar. Still in his steamroll of Pride days, no UFC heavyweight had a better career then him. Since then no heavyweight has really done anything. You can argue Randy beat Tim and Gonzaga, but Tim is the most over rated HW out there, and Gozaga was very unexperienced. Still it was impressive but Randy has only had 2 heavyweight fights in years, so how can he be considered better. Noguerra has had impressive wins but got demolished by Fedor twice. Cro cop….we all know what happened to cro cop. Gonzaga has had too few fights (but will be a force after gainig much needed experience in the loss to Couture). Arlovski is as talentted as they come, but his the Posterboy for a “Headcase”, he constantly fights himself in fights, is too gun shy and has had a bad past couple of years.
Fedor has fought weak competition in the past year and a half, but he hasnt loss and TO BE THE MAN YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE MAN! No one has yet to beat the man! Since we cannot see him fight any UFC heavyweights, we can only speculate. With that said no one has even slowed him down and no other Heavyweight in the world has done anything significant enough to warrant dethrowning him from the Rankings.
This is as objective as it gets. He has been suplexed on his head(randleman), cracked square on the chin(Fujita), and still blew through his opponents and every other person to step in the ring with him. The scary part is I think his little brother could beat a lot of the competition, so imagine what Fedor would do.
When u r on top, its up to all the contenders to Take your crown, no one has yet to do so and no other Heavyweight is making enough noise to take that crown….Until then Fedor has to be considered #1
by john on Jan 2, 2008 5:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Andy how could you say us Americans aren’t the most ignorant. We
constantly Boooo the hell out of fighters leaving sweat and blood in ring, who are mostly underpaid, and contantly beat up Physically. The crowd had the balls to Boooo during the Huerta vs. Garcia battle during the only 10 seconds of the fight that the fighters werent exchanging blows.
For instance: The Japanease audience is a much better crowd then us. They are knowledgable and respectful. You dont see to many drunken fans screaming to rip someones head off during a PRIDE event. In all the years of Pride, I heard the Japanease crowd booo, maybe 3 times.
by john on Jan 2, 2008 6:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think so too! Its hard to give Fedor “The Best Heavyweight” status,when he has not fought the best! Couture would own him,I agree!
by Charlie on Jan 2, 2008 6:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yes, tim sylvia is right, fedor is losing status…but not benjamins- im sure he made much more for that fight than any fighter in the UFC…
the UFC- more specifically, dana white- has stressed the importance of not allowing money to ruin this sport as it did boxing…and i believe they have the sport’s best interest at heart, however other organizations will draw big name fighters because of lucrative contracts…
by mctapout on Jan 2, 2008 6:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor should man-up and loose some weight and give Rampage a run for his money, after he fights Randy that is!
He is only 6 feet tall, and could loose some weight.
by Mike on Jan 2, 2008 6:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yes, tim sylvia is right, fedor is losing status…but not benjamins- im sure he made much more for that fight than any fighter in the UFC…
the UFC- more specifically, dana white- has stressed the importance of not allowing money to ruin this sport as it did boxing…and i believe they have the sport’s best interest at heart, however other organizations will draw big name fighters because of lucrative contracts…
they have there own interest at heart not the sport, you actually bought into that load of s***
by joe on Jan 2, 2008 7:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I cannot believe I have to agree with something Tim Sylvia says. :(
by dan on Jan 2, 2008 7:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Exactly! But it is going to be very hard for Fedor to lose if he is fighting in M-1 and both Fedor’s management and M-1 both have to agree on his opponents. Right now, Fedor is obviously thier biggest attraction. They will not be putting his undefeated record at risk against anyone, except for Randy Couture. But Dana will do everything in his power to not allow that to happen.
Jesus Christ man, do you have to CONSTANTLY quote 4-5 posts at a time to respond to? I’ve got a response about every single comment on this board too, but i think you’ve taken the “quote this comment” button to the limit. I know you practically LIVE on this board so why don’t you take it one at a time.
by MyQuit on Jan 2, 2008 7:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have gained a bit of respect for Tim after he said that. At least Tim fights top 15 competition in every fight. Unlike the “can crusher”. Then again fedor is still a bit more exciting than Tim.
by mexican dude on Jan 2, 2008 7:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahaahahahahahahahahahhaahahhahahahaahhaahahahahahahahahah FEDOR WOULD KICK TIMMYS ASS BLINDFOLDED…….and then some
Fedor would get webslapped with a high kick to the dome. And then some…..
Am i the only one tired of everything being about Randy and Fedor? It isn’t happening and if it does, it will be too late for either of them to still be relevent. Fedor can take his cash and remain a big fish in a small pond and Randy can keep on the path to bad acting superstardom. I for one can’t wait to never have to hear about either one of them. WAR QUOTING MULTIPLE COMMENTS AT ONCE AND RESPONDING WITH 1 or 2 SENTENCES.
by MyQuit on Jan 2, 2008 7:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
[quote comment=“253711”]I have gained a bit of respect for Tim after he said that. At least Tim fights top 15 competition in every fight. Unlike the “can crusher”. Then again fedor is still a bit more exciting than Tim.[/quot
top 15 who? randy and lost and aa and lost one of those, those are the only 2 people he has ever fought that are in the top15 maybe vera and vera could have done better and probally won.
by joe on Jan 2, 2008 7:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You can insult Tim about a lot of things, he’s physically ugly, he’s a boring fighter who is the biggest threat to the popularity of the ufc, and he’s a cheater, however, I’ll always respect him because he has never ducked a fight.
ya know, i know everyone give Tim alot(i mean ALOT of shit) but its true.he has never ducked anyone.and made no bullshit excuses when he has lost.people dont understand that not every fight is going to be a highlight reel ko.if Fedor vs Tim were to every happen i’d put my money on Tim,pride or ufc rules.Tim has beat Arlovski twice and i think Arlovski,Couture,Gonzaga would cripple Fedor.i like Fedor and all but com’on man fight someone dangerous(not 7ft tall oriental dudes when little mma experience).so i agree for the most part about what you say.
by jdawg on Jan 2, 2008 7:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Here’s the thing. I am just not that good at making up my own mind. I think based on a winning record Fedor is ranked #1 in MMA. Now ask me if i think Randy Couture wouldn’t beat the Russian Voddy out of his pores if given the chance.
Hmmmm… you know i just don’t know.
I believe Fedor is ranked #1. I think Randy is worthy of that title. As MMA’s number one guy, part of wearing that crown, is defending it. Where else does the respect come from for being #1? If Fedor wants to be considered the King of MMA he has to perform the Kings duties. If not i know…
COUTURE VS. BARNETT would change some fucking minds.
BOOYA!
by Big Zino on Jan 2, 2008 8:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
fedors problem is the lack of qualtiy heavyweights anywhere in the world, never mind just the ufc. i mean big nog has been beaten by fedor twice but walks straight into a ufc title fight after one poor display against herring. why should fedor accept a binding contract with the ufc when thats the best there is for him to face? obviously he wouldve fought randy too, but fingers crossed that fight isnt dead yet. dana talks about boxing being ruined by politics and fights not gettin made because of men in suits, but what hes trying to do is much worse. he only wants the best fights involving fighters he owns so his pockets get filled and no one elses. its not the way to go
by dom on Jan 2, 2008 8:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i respect fedor, but i think Tim is right. fedor’s decision to come into other organization is bussiness decision.
but its not all about money,it also about dignity,competition,heart,pride..
he could be muli millionaire anyway even though he didnt accept the best offer by the organization which where he’s right now
by mad_drummer on Jan 2, 2008 9:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
they have there own interest at heart not the sport, you actually bought into that load of s***
actually i think you bought into the load of crap conjured up by all the ochlocracy talk just for anarchy’s sake cuz it sounds dramatic…besides couture and tito, name a fighter whose unhappy with the UFC….UFC is the most established american mma organization and youre gonna go pull that card out of your crack?
by mctapout on Jan 2, 2008 9:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sylvia is right about Fedor not fighting top guys but who the fuck is Tim Sylvia to say anything??
Plain & Simple, Fedor would wipe his ass with Sylvia.
Sylvia is nothing compared to Fedor.
Fedor needs to fight top guys but their are many factors preventing him from doing that….
But in one year, we will see Randy Couture fight Fedor and then we will see because Randy demolished Sylvia and if Fedor beats Couture then that makes him #1 for a long time because Couture went out on the top.
by Guz on Jan 2, 2008 10:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
arlovski is a good example of how white absolutely dosnt have fighters and fans interests at heart. he publically slated him after the werdum fight and has frozen him out since then, because he only has one fight left on his contract. granted it was a rubbish fight but i guarantee if arlovski had a long term ufc contract he wouldnt have criticised him and arlovski would be back in the title hunt by now. also werdum has got a fight against one of the ufc’s top contenders and he lost the boring fight. its obviously because white dosnt want to pay arlovski what his people have asked for so hes slated him and frozen him out to drop his market value. if dana has his way the ufc will entirely monopolise mma and fighters will have to do what he tells them for the wage he wants to give them or else fade into obscurity. i still think theres more than enough good fighters who arent with the ufc to prevent this happening yet, and i hope eventually white will realise that he wont be able to create his monopoly and co promotions and better relations with all mma promoters is needed. at the minute dana isnt working for the progress of mma, hes looking to build the ufc brand and his and the fertitas bank balances
by dom on Jan 2, 2008 10:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
you mean compete with other organizations?…build the ufc brand is what a good president would do actually… i do think the arvlovski situation is a little shady, but again…the anarchy talk needs to stop – ridiculous – “dana white’s the antichrist!” …sorry but i think we owe them some thanks…theyve brought mma mainstream
by mctapout on Jan 2, 2008 10:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Timmy is right you have to fight top level guys not scrubbs that are fust getting started——-I would love to see timmy and fedor go at it—— for all you haters I think Timmy would win!!!!!!!!
by spades8119 on Jan 2, 2008 10:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor has looked lackluster against everyone he has fought recently. Everyone of his opponents has put him in a bad spot and he had to finish early to survive.
Fedor would have a real tough time taking Tim down and I could see him breaking his brittle hands on Tim’s head. From there, I could see Tim stuffing him against the cage and beating him to a bloody pulpl.
There’s a reason he wanted a garuntee not to fight Tim if he fought in the UFC.
by Dom on Jan 2, 2008 10:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor has looked lackluster against everyone he has fought recently. Everyone of his opponents has put him in a bad spot and he had to finish early to survive.
Fedor would have a real tough time taking Tim down and I could see him breaking his brittle hands on Tim’s head. From there, I could see Tim stuffing him against the cage and beating him to a bloody pulpl.
There’s a reason he wanted a garuntee not to fight Tim if he fought in the UFC.
where did u hear about this “garuntee”? id be very doubtful. no offence to sylvia but hes just a big lump thats hard to deal with, who has knockout power. not too dissimilar to a smaller slightly more gifted choi
by dom on Jan 2, 2008 10:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Whomever Tim Sylvia calls out is really timmy’s, puny, brain farting.
He called out “CHECCKHHH”, ( totaly butchered his name yet is calling him out to fight, retard bow hunting retard, tim) yet never fought him, Now he call out Fedor, WELL no way in a hot double e Hockey stick will Tim sylvis ever fight Fedor in reality.
Randy will fight Fedor nt Tim s. after all DANA brought his %itch chuck to pride before DAna screwed pride.
Dana says he building a monopoly not a league or a sport
Tim needs to get his back fused properly cuz it’s affcting his little brain.
Tim tested positive for roids, look at the difference in his body, oh that was when he earned his money ….now he’s a liability for the ufc.
by GORANDY on Jan 3, 2008 12:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sylvia is right. Fedor is fighting trash right now. hopefully fedor fights jeff monson soon.
a fight between Sylvia and Fedor would be great but i think Fedor would win
by T-murda on Jan 3, 2008 12:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
man i hate that timmy pic he just looks so effin retarded!
by HOWaiianTapOut on Jan 3, 2008 3:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor has looked lackluster against everyone he has fought recently. Everyone of his opponents has put him in a bad spot and he had to finish early to survive.
Fedor would have a real tough time taking Tim down and I could see him breaking his brittle hands on Tim’s head. From there, I could see Tim stuffing him against the cage and beating him to a bloody pulpl.
There’s a reason he wanted a garuntee not to fight Tim if he fought in the UFC.
Why does nobody else see that? He and his camp said Tim would be a bad fight/matchup! Is that not ducking a fighter? A gurantee that you will not have to fight Tim. If Tim is that crappy why is Fedors camp saying that? When did you ever hear Tim say/do anything like this? I keep saying this over and over again, but hate him or love him, boring style and all Tim is extremly succesful with his style. I am not saying Tim would cut though Fedor, but I think this fight is closer then everyone thinks…
If you recall the Verra fight it was Verra tying up. IT was Tim that kept calling him out! “Come on Verra!” So why is everyone blaming Tim for the slow passed VErra Fight. IT was Tim that pushed away and let the jabs flythe few times the exchanged.
by Da Monkey on Jan 3, 2008 7:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Timmy needs to fight Hong Man. Then we’ll know who the best is. Just joking, I think Tim’s statements are always stupid.
by jess on Jan 3, 2008 8:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
tim just stated what everybody else is stating about fedor,hes living a high ranking life of mma,but hes fighting nobodys and getting bragged about,my personally i think this fedor is a b.u.m. but i should not say that cause hes still fighting in the minor leagues,fedor if your this good then fight randy….but since tim stated that fight him first, heck as tired as fedor was in that match against hong man….i think sylvia even could have beat fedor!!!!!!
by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Jan 3, 2008 8:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well, Tim would be an expert on losing status after having his ass kicked for 5 straight rounds by a 44 yr old coming out of retirement who hadn’t fought in a year. Notice how Tim was silent during the period of time when Fedor might have been coming to the UFC, but now he’s right back to talking shit since he knows he won’t have to back it up.
by Ixian on Jan 3, 2008 10:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Jesus Christ man, do you have to CONSTANTLY quote 4-5 posts at a time to respond to? I’ve got a response about every single comment on this board too, but i think you’ve taken the “quote this comment” button to the limit. I know you practically LIVE on this board so why don’t you take it one at a time.
Uh Oh, Its My Quit trying to be some sort of problem starting jokester again? Actually buddy, I don’t sit here at this site all day, and hit refresh over and over, but instead, I visit the site every couple hours and read what was typed since the last time. If there were a bunch of comments said that I wish to comment back on since the last time, I do so. Next time, just for you, I will quote them seperately. That way I will have 6 consecutive posts. Posting 5 times in a row is MUCH more annoying than 5 quotes in 1 post. And when quotes are used, its more of a conversation/discussion. As opposed to random stupid statements some people like to type.
by ViolentMike on Jan 3, 2008 11:26 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
AND My Quit, I’m only on the board while I’m at work, getting paid. Meanwhile, you are sitting in your parents basement surfing the internet and starting with people for the simple reason that you have nothing better to do with your life and no friends to hang out with. Did you know that I just made about $22 for reading through this thread and responding to you? What did you accomplish? Did you rub one out?
by ViolentMike on Jan 3, 2008 11:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dude…what controversy? Its only a contoversy hear in the USA. U think Fedor cares what us American fans have to say (espcially since we are the most ignorrant sport fans in the world). Fedor has never even fought in America, why would he care what we say. For those who havent noticed..there is a whole world outside of the USA, and whether we like it or not, the rest of the mma fans in the world believe he is the best. Also yes Randy is dying to fight him, but as of lately randy has gone in an outspoken attack mode and he not once Blamed Fedor for not signing with the UFC. Maybe if Randy said Fedor was ducking him it may be an issue, but he doesnt…Dana is the only one too blame for not having Fedor fight in the UFC
Wy should he care about our oppinions, when there are still idiots on this site who think Tito is still the man….get a clue, until someone beats him he is the best in the world and not cause I say so, but because all the top fighters say so, and who would know better then them?
yea fedor did fight in america, fought mark coleman
by lee on Jan 3, 2008 11:38 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
AND My Quit, I’m only on the board while I’m at work, getting paid. Meanwhile, you are sitting in your parents basement surfing the internet and starting with people for the simple reason that you have nothing better to do with your life and no friends to hang out with. Did you know that I just made about $22 for reading through this thread and responding to you? What did you accomplish? Did you rub one out?
The ViolentONE strikes again! lol
by john on Jan 3, 2008 11:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
actually i think you bought into the load of crap conjured up by all the ochlocracy talk just for anarchy’s sake cuz it sounds dramatic…besides couture and tito, name a fighter whose unhappy with the UFC….UFC is the most established american mma organization and youre gonna go pull that card out of your crack?
name one theres alot barnett lindland aa shamrock and alot more plus lesser name fighters who can not complain because there not in the postion that tito and coulture are in(already having a name and money).dana is not intersted in helping the sport he is only interested in helping the ufc and there pockects,not the fighters or the fans and he has shown it over and over again.some of the things that hurt boxing was having one promoter control so many fighters and have both his fighters fighting each other,the ufc contols all of there fighters decides who fights who and who deserves what who is ranked higher promotes certain guys and not others and decides who gets in the ufc regardless of who good they are or are not.
by roy on Jan 3, 2008 1:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I dont know why this popped into my head but I would love to see a re match between Barnett and Couture
by john on Jan 3, 2008 1:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
AND My Quit, I’m only on the board while I’m at work, getting paid. Meanwhile, you are sitting in your parents basement surfing the internet and starting with people for the simple reason that you have nothing better to do with your life and no friends to hang out with. Did you know that I just made about $22 for reading through this thread and responding to you? What did you accomplish? Did you rub one out?
LMFAO…smells like someone got punked
by jdawg on Jan 3, 2008 2:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I dont know why this popped into my head but I would love to see a re match between Barnett and Couture
i would just love to see barnett back in the ufc
by roy on Jan 3, 2008 2:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
AND My Quit, I’m only on the board while I’m at work, getting paid. Meanwhile, you are sitting in your parents basement surfing the internet and starting with people for the simple reason that you have nothing better to do with your life and no friends to hang out with. Did you know that I just made about $22 for reading through this thread and responding to you? What did you accomplish? Did you rub one out?
I hope you boss is not reading this
by zheka on Jan 3, 2008 4:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
until someone beats Fedor he is the best in the world
Now this is BS in my book. If Royce Gracie left after the first 5 UFCs would he still be considered number one to this day? Well i’d hope not, because as we saw he definently isnt.
by The Anomaly on Jan 3, 2008 7:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The bottom line is that nobody REALLY knows how good Fedor is. He has never fought top competition (UFC). ALL of the best fighters eventually end up in the UFC and as soon as they lose that edge they are gone. The UFC doesn’t deal in punks. The fact that Fedor CHOSE to go somewhere other than the UFC speaks volumes about what kind of fighter he is. He likes being on top and he will always stay there as long as he never has to fight great fighters. Who can say how well he would do against them?
Most of his fans say, “Well, he beat Cro Crop and Shogun” but look at what happened to BOTH of them as soon as they stepped into the UFC. They both got beat down by someone who wasn’t even the champion.
In my opinion, I agree with Silvia that Fedor is a pussy. A REAL fighter would have signed with the UFC and proved he was the best, instead of getting paid lip-service by a bunch of Japanese wanna-bees.
His last fight was a complete joke. The guy he fought obviously had no skills and got the fight purely on size. Beating him means less than NOTHING.
Until Fedor fights top competition he will never be considered the top fighter amongst fighters. We was for a while when people thought he was fighting great fighters. Then we those great fighters came to the UFC we found out they were less than we thought. Every Pride fighter that has come to the UFC has not had much success except for Rampage. However, I at least can give them credit for coming in and fighting better fighters instead of beating up on nobodies like Fedor is doing.
Frankly, I think the Fedor is just scared to lose. He likes being a god among men in Japan. To do so all he has to do is continue beating up on the sub-par fighters that Japan churns out. I don’t say that to be cruel, it’s just that until these guys start fighting better competition instead of themselves, they will never get better.
Oh well, it is a moot point at this time in history. He is not in the UFC and I doubt he ever will be. In the long run it is better for the UFC because they would have to pay him too much and he likely wouldn’t live up to the hype.
by JD on Jan 3, 2008 7:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How can anyone say that Dana White is not interested in helping the sport of MMA. That is a very ignorant comment. OF COURSE he is interested in helping the sport even if the only reason is because it makes him more money. The bottom line is that the better the sport is, the better his company does.
Sp, you can love Dana or you can hate Dana, but he does have the interests of the sport at heart for whatever reason. It doesn’t really matter why.
by JD on Jan 3, 2008 8:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Timmy Webfoot is talking trash?!?! Yeah Sure..Fedor is the man. Tim is shook of Fedor. One thing Tim right about is Fedor needs to fight top tier fighter’s..but with ufc/Dana offerring Fedor a million dollars or so in exchange of being a slave..Fedor gave Dana the finger. Fedor says he wants to fight the best..in the last 5 years he hasn’t been ducking anyone..it’s just the state of MMA..which is F’d up a bit. If Dana doesn’t want to do any cross promotion fights with Free Agents..Fedor will only be able to fight Top Free Agents..He should fight Josh Barnett soon..but after Josh who will he fight?? 92 percent of the top heavy weights fight exsculsively fot the ufc..I think he is the top heavy weight in the world currently..I’m a fan of his..how long will he have that title?? not for long …cuz ufc and Fedor couldn’t find common ground. Just to note Fedor never considered himselfas the top hw..the fan’s did.
This is true, when ask who the #1 HW was, Fedor said, it was AA. I just wish we could see him fight some real competition.
by Gord on Jan 3, 2008 8:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Timmy.
Oh yeah? then why did tim reject a fight with Fedor 2-3 years ago?
That was Fedor (management) who thought Tim was a bad matchup for him. Tims a bad matchup for most guys, as Nog will find out shortly.
by Gord on Jan 3, 2008 9:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You’re being ridiculous. He should have signed the ridiculous contract that UFC presented him? If what Fedor says is true (and I’m sure you won’t believe it is, since you are obviously biased and will probably look for any opportunity to bury him), the UFC wanted full exclusivity (no Sambo, which you’ve already downplayed), an automatic contract renewal (for the same amount of money and for an undetermined amount of time) if Fedor remained undefeated (which he probably would have), and the ability to back out of the contract at any time for any reason. If even half of that is true, it’s ridiculous.
While I do agree that Fedor should be taking on more serious competition, to say that he should simply sign with the UFC “just because” is pretty much bullshit.
Also, talent “chasing him” around the world isn’t indicative of Fedor ducking anybody. It’s just a necessary evil because of contracts and politics.
Fedor was offered WAY more than anyone EVER in the UFC. NO ONE else in the UFC is alowed to fight in other events, and for good reason. Those are the RULES that EVERONE else goes by. What is the FUCKIN PROBLEM. By Fedor signing ,he would be sacrificing NOTHING more than ANYONE ELSE ever has in the UFC. Am I missing something, or is Fedor a God that we must change all the rules to conform to his UNREALILISTIC demands. Fighting for the UFC is a JOB. And you sure as hell don’t go to a job interveiw and tell them how they are going to run THEIR company. How can Fedor be so hard done by, when ALL the other UFC fighter manage to survive with Much less lucrative and less cushy contracts. He would’ve been treated like Liddel (only higher paid). Fedor should realize that the fans sign his paychecks and if he doesn’t start producing, he’s going to get FIRED.
by Gord on Jan 3, 2008 9:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Who is better than Fedor?? Randy? Tim who didn’t want to fight him before? Nog…who is fighting for the Interim Hw ufc title..who loss to fedor already? Josh Barnett? Fedor is 27-1 5yr HH champ of PrideFc..truthfully he hasn’t fought top tier guys cuz of the flux with mma/ufc in 2007. If the ufc’s HW division is the best in the world, who is the number one Hw in the world?? the only name that keeps coming up is " FEDOR "
I would’ve said Randy was the best. He had the best 2007 of any heavyweight. As he sits out though, he loses his position and momentum. Personally, I think Gonzaga is the best heavyweight outside of Randy. I think Randy and Gonzaga could beat Fedor.
I’m not bashing Fedor. I like Fedor a lot. I like how he fights, I like his humility, and I like the respect he shows his competition. He’s a great fighter, but he chose loyalty to his team and country over status. I can respect that. But, being considered a top fighter must be earned. He has done nothing to earn that status since his fight with Crocop in 2005.
I totally agree with you Andy, well said.
by Gord on Jan 3, 2008 10:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So what youre saying is that if Fedor gets KO’ed twice by a lightheavyweight, then moves back to heavyweight and beats tim sylvia then the VASTLY overrated Gabe Gonzaga, only then can he be ranked #1?
That VASTLY overrated Gabe Gonzaga sure made fast work of CC, something Fedor couldn’t do. Fedor doesn’t do LHWs, He only fights Super HW circus freaks and MWs.
by Gord on Jan 3, 2008 10:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Andy, Fedor is number #1 because a couple of years ago he ran through the Pride Heavyweight division, which consisted of Fighters ranked higher then all the UFC heavyweights. I mean he steamrolled over everyone. I will be the 1st to admit that his opponents in the past year and a half have been less then stellar. Still in his steamroll of Pride days, no UFC heavyweight had a better career then him. Since then no heavyweight has really done anything. You can argue Randy beat Tim and Gonzaga, but Tim is the most over rated HW out there, and Gozaga was very unexperienced. Still it was impressive but Randy has only had 2 heavyweight fights in years, so how can he be considered better. Noguerra has had impressive wins but got demolished by Fedor twice. Cro cop….we all know what happened to cro cop. Gonzaga has had too few fights (but will be a force after gainig much needed experience in the loss to Couture). Arlovski is as talentted as they come, but his the Posterboy for a “Headcase”, he constantly fights himself in fights, is too gun shy and has had a bad past couple of years.
Fedor has fought weak competition in the past year and a half, but he hasnt loss and TO BE THE MAN YOU HAVE TO BEAT THE MAN! No one has yet to beat the man! Since we cannot see him fight any UFC heavyweights, we can only speculate. With that said no one has even slowed him down and no other Heavyweight in the world has done anything significant enough to warrant dethrowning him from the Rankings.
This is as objective as it gets. He has been suplexed on his head(randleman), cracked square on the chin(Fujita), and still blew through his opponents and every other person to step in the ring with him. The scary part is I think his little brother could beat a lot of the competition, so imagine what Fedor would do.
When u r on top, its up to all the contenders to Take your crown, no one has yet to do so and no other Heavyweight is making enough noise to take that crown….Until then Fedor has to be considered #1
John, your whole point is based on those rankings. If it was possible to acuratly rank fighters in different orgs.that have never fought each other, you would have a good point, however that same ranking system had CC ERRONIOUSLY as #2HW in the world. I think those rankings should hold very little weight (if any at all). How Nog does against Sylvia will tell us more than any ranking system. The fact that there hasn’t been a long run UFC HW champ, just goes to show how tough and tight the competition is. Don’t get me wrong , Fedor is a beast with the slickest armbar in the business, I just think there is tougher compitition in the UFC, than his 2 biggest foes(CC and Nog).
by Gord on Jan 3, 2008 11:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If you recall the Verra fight it was Verra tying up. IT was Tim that kept calling him out! “Come on Verra!” So why is everyone blaming Tim for the slow passed VErra Fight. IT was Tim that pushed away and let the jabs flythe few times the exchanged.
Vera broke his hand (1st round) on Tims hard head, so Tim should’ve been able to finish him.
by Gord on Jan 4, 2008 12:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
There’s not a fighter i care less about seeing fight than that unskilled man baby Tim Sylvia. Seriously, the only reason he’s gotten to where he’s got is because of his size. That’s it, no other reason in the world.
Hope Nog can beat him, but i really don’t think he can. I see another long Tim Sylvia title reign. Which makes me sad. But then again, WHO cares about the HW division? Can’t wait to see Brock fight, but for reasons outside of the MMA world.
by Yum on Jan 4, 2008 1:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor isn’t fighting in the UFC because DAna White would ask him to throw fights and he’s not willing to do that. God Bless him, too…I just wish there were more fighters with the integrity that Fedor has. Too many punks throwing fights these days and MMA is not holding up well lately. The sport is being disgraced by Liddell, Dana White, and Wanderlei Silva after that latest match.
by anonymous on Jan 4, 2008 3:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
wow.. silvia must be out of his mind… fedor would destroy anyone in ufc.. and silvias only fighting advantage is his size and reach.. and hong man choi is obviously bigger and would easily overpower silvia.. fedor would destroy them both.. cotoure cro cop and fedor are the 3 greatest heavyweights of all.. couture with his experience and technical skill & inteligence.. cro cop with his striking ability and fedor.. is just fedor..
by jamie on Jan 5, 2008 5:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Vera broke his hand (1st round) on Tims hard head, so Tim should’ve been able to finish him.
A boken hand does not stop you from holding. After the second round he should have been more then able to punch in the third. The hand freezes up and goes numb with all the tape, leaving a person more then able to throw the hands again.
by Da Monkey on Jan 5, 2008 9:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
sylvia would knock himself out before he does shit to fedor
by barhgh on Jan 5, 2008 10:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sylvia needs to keep his mouth shut, especially cuz he just lost to Nog, who Fedor beat twice. so im pretty sure if Fedor came to UFC, before he gets too old, he’ll beat any UFC fighter they can trow at him. i say before he gets too old because it doesnt seem like he’s ever gonna come to the UFC, which is a shame.
by Jorge on Feb 3, 2008 3:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
tims right. fedor hasnt fought top flight competition.
he is the heavyweight tito. he will pick off chumps for the rest of his carreer just like mirko.we are finding out that the pride fighters arent as good as everyone thought.i wasnt impressed with noguera.so the man gets his ass whipped by almost everyone he fights but yet he finds success. he’s good but not great. he will not have that title for long and fedor wont have it either since he will never risk his record on world class competition.
by reggie on Mar 21, 2008 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Timmy boy should look at himself in the fighting mirror. This is coming from a guy who when he was Champion, rarely engaged anybody. All he ever did after his KO from Arlovski was shuffle back and fourth with his hands in front of his face, bobbing and weaving. He became a boxer, and a horrible one at that. He’s 5-2 in his last 7 fights, with 4 of those wins going the distance.
Fedor has fought many great fighters: CroCop, Nogueira, Coleman, Sobral, amoung many others. He consistently finishes fights in dominate fashion, whether it’s by submission, KO/TKO, or unamious decision. And it’s not like Fedor picks his fights, he fights who the organization puts in front of him.
I love the UFC, but Timmy boy is a joke.
by trigger on May 3, 2008 2:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This fight will be funny. Tim Sylvia’s best hope is that his arm breaks like w/ the fight against Mirr. He doesn’t have the power of Mark Hunt or the kicking power of Crocop (not that Crocop has turned out all that great…but back in the Fedor/Crocop fight…he made a decent showing), and Fedor walked through those fights. Sure, he was a bit battered and bruised…but wouldn’t you be?
Submission in the first…or a KO…but it’ll be over in the first.
Morne
by Mornelithe on May 11, 2008 12:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whatever game plan Sylvia’s team is bringing to the table in this fight against Fedor, I’m betting he’ll gas out or tap out before it comes to fruition.
Sylvia needs to find a window by going on the offensive, and when he find its, he needs to stick a lucky right hand right through it.
by random100 on May 17, 2008 1:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I tend to agree with Syliva insofar that Fedor needs to fight more of the top guys RIGHT NOW. Sure, he has whipped everyone in his path (with one very early cuts stoppage being the exception). Someone commented on Sylvia “rattling Fedor’s cage”… WTF!?!? Ever seen Fedor in the ring – totally emtionless. Nothing ‘rattles’ him in the slightest – the guy’s a machine. Sure, one day someone will beat him – but that someone isn’t Sylvia. He’ll have the Manie-iac well and truly beaten out of him. Randy would be wasted within a round or two… Not really sure who’s even stand a chance, but that someone IS out there…
by Jack Frost on May 25, 2008 5:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It seems that cooperate america doesn’t like Fedor who doen’t want to be owned by a imperilist Dana, Dana is depreiving all of us of the good fights which otherwise we had seems, he is trying to make money and that is all he care about, talking about Fedor’s ability to quash Tim Sylvia, Tim is a awkard looking guy, too tall and not so well balanced, if you want to beat Fedor you need guy who is more like Mirko or i can say liddel who have a excellent balance and and good striking power, you can’t beat Fedor on ground, he is just too good to be beaten like this, but if you remember his fight against fugira and Mirko he was a bit vunerable, a kick or a punch can only outclass him nothing else, lets seee……
by Muhammad Sajjad Nazeer on May 28, 2008 10:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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