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All About the Benjamins: UFC President Dana White talks fighter pay

ufc president dana white talks about ufc fighters salaries
Props: Los Angeles Times

Quoteworthy mash up:

"We're running a business here. This is not 'Fantasy Island'.... MMA is like a beauty salon, with all these [fighters] sitting around talking about what they're not getting.... We've got lots of millionaires who couldn't be happier with their life. Lots of guys have taken their money, invested it, and they're thrilled with how their lives are turning out.... Am I entitled to make some money? This is a business, and the business deserves to make money. These guys wouldn't be putting their lives on the line if I hadn't busted my [rear] to build this infrastructure, and Randy Couture wouldn't be a millionaire now."

UFC President Dana White defends the pay structure of his organization while Tito Ortiz and Randy Couture (big surprise) are referred to in the article as taking exception with the current policies. Interesting note: Matt Hughes received a $1 million bonus for his destruction of Royce Gracie in 2006.

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Danaism! In full effect.

by PhilQNY on Dec 27, 2007 1:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Why Randy is a hypocrite whiny ass:

“Couture said he was frustrated the UFC couldn’t sign former PRIDE Fighting Championships heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko, who’s considered the top heavyweight in the world by some mixed martial arts publications.

Couture also said it was “the final slap in the face” to hear speculation the UFC had apparently promised to pay Emelianenko up to $2 million a fight, in excess of what Couture earns."

by ajadoniz on Dec 27, 2007 1:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Is that to say you disagree with what he said?

by JB on Dec 27, 2007 1:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Danaism! In full effect.

Dana-ism…I love it. I dont want to hear this sh*t out of Dana’s mouth…..I want to hear him justify how he could possibly present Fedor with an UNSIGNABLE contract….He tried to throw tons of money at Fedor like he was sum hoe…..Props to Fedor!!!!!!!!!

by john on Dec 27, 2007 1:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If Tito and Randy want to put their own money on the line, rent a fight venue, pay for all the employees at the venue, pay for marketing and advertising, pay a bunch of fighters more than what Dana pays, pay for all the other expenses that go into a UFC event and still turn a good profit then have at it. Otherwise STFU.

by pw on Dec 27, 2007 1:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

id be interseted to see how much dana gets paid

by mat b on Dec 27, 2007 1:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Again with the beauty salon…

by Fidel Cashflow on Dec 27, 2007 1:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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by toodiesel on Dec 27, 2007 1:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Is that to say you disagree with what he said?

In 2006 the ufc ppv numbers were $222million. UFC 71 did 4.4 million. and Kos makes 10grand to fight Gsp? You have undercard fighter making more than the main event ( Luke from Serra’s..Kenny beating Din Thomas )..Dana is full of it. The almighty ufc god.." b4 they called him fatso now they call him Castro.. Yeah just look at the smirk on his face..Oh Dana Almighty..to answer this question..I agree with to a degree..but he is off the deep end..he doesn’t answer to no one..he is not held accountable..for bull shit decisions..and for f’n Fedor with an indentered servant contract. Dana will give fighters contracts..where the ufc has no time limit to full the fights on the contract..the fighter can’t fight anywhere else in the meantime..can get called at any time..so if a fighter has like 2 fights left his contract and the ufc puts him the shelf..what is the “ufc” fighter suppose to do to make money..bottom line Dana is arrogant..and full of himself that I rather see big John or Randy as President…Dana is more like a Dictator..Dana-ism.

by PhilQNY on Dec 27, 2007 1:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i sick of this motherf—ker

by roy on Dec 27, 2007 1:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I understand it takes a great deal of work to put on an event, and it’s a gamble. But the UFC has done a great job of promoting not just the events, but the brand in general. They are now main stream news on Sports Center and other mainstream news programming (the CNBC special, the ESPN specials just to name a few from the past year). If there was some way to justify how someone like Rich Franklin gets say $30k for a great fight, and a lesser known, less popular fighter gets more, then I could understand. I know a lot of that has to do with the contracts the fighters sign. But the secrete signing bonuses are at Dana’s discretion, and it seems to be a bit unfair.

The biggest thing that bothers me, is every time a fighter has 1 or 2 fights left on his deal, they won’t give him a fight until he signs a new extended contract first. That is wrong! How can you have Arlovski sitting on the sidelines at this point. It’s because he wants to be paid fairly, and the UFC doesn’t agree with the amount. This is happening more and more often.

It will be interesting to see what happens when some of these guys jump ship for other organizations to get more money. Those other organizations won’t make as much profit as the UFC, but they might pick up some great fighters. The whole thing doesn’t work unless you have great fighters putting on great fights.

by jiminey on Dec 27, 2007 1:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

UFc is no longer giving fighter’s signing bounus. Per Dana.

by PhilQNY on Dec 27, 2007 1:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

$1 million to defeat a Gracie seems really motivating

by Anonymousf*ck on Dec 27, 2007 2:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

While dana is glorifying himself saying look how I built this sport these fighters wouldnt be making money if it wasnt for me, he is failing to realize that he dana has reached his potential which is why the UFC will never be able to attian its real potential they need some one else to take the org to another level

by dia mette on Dec 27, 2007 2:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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The biggest thing that bothers me, is every time a fighter has 1 or 2 fights left on his deal, they won’t give him a fight until he signs a new extended contract first.

Agree with this 100%

by rsg on Dec 27, 2007 2:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dana needs to make money too.

The truth is Dana has hemroids the size of Tito’s head.
It’s so sore that he needs private jets with soft cushiony sits, and bottles of bubbly to soothe the pain.

by Ktown on Dec 27, 2007 2:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

It would be great if a high profile ufc fighter punked dana like if gsp went up to dana and said he is not fighting becuase he found out about an extra bonus hughes received just like that show punked Dana would shit himself

by dia mette on Dec 27, 2007 2:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The people who can afford to make comments like that are the Fertitas because without their money Dana’s got a big bag of nothing. The money is what made it go which proves that had Mark Cuban jumped in 2000 when it was for sale it would look completely different today. Dana was at the right place at the right time. Then and only then can you give him credit for his marketing prowess. Who is to say Cuban wouldn’t have grown it larger had he had the same love for the sport at that time.

Also, get off of Randy Couture, what he did was no different than what pro NFL players do when unhappy with their contracts. Look at Emmitt Smith. He sat out for two games in 93 when he felt Jones wasn’t paying him what he was worth.

Its business guys!!!! THe promoters want to pay you less than your worth because they have other players to pay and the players want to be paid more as they know their bodies will take a toll and not be worth much in 5 to 10 year window.

by TheSaint on Dec 27, 2007 2:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dana-ism…I love it. I dont want to hear this sh*t out of Dana’s mouth…..I want to hear him justify how he could possibly present Fedor with an UNSIGNABLE contract….He tried to throw tons of money at Fedor like he was sum hoe…..Props to Fedor!!!!!!!!!


why not post bas rutten’s comments on the downfall of pride and fedor’s crazy russian reps. you cant just post one side of the story.

by b.w. on Dec 27, 2007 2:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t even see how this is news. Every corporation in a free market economy works like this. The UFC fighters are equivalent to the labor market in other industries. The amount they are paid is going to be less than the revenue they generate for the corporation through their work. This disparity is called profit, and it’s the foundation of our economy. If the fighters (labor) don’t like this system, they are free to try to make more money with BodogFights, HDNetFights, M1 or some other promotion. If that’s not a viable option they can always change careers and get a 9-to-5. Contrary to what Tito and Randy seem to think, fighters are not guaranteed or owed a millionaire lifestyle.

by pw on Dec 27, 2007 2:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i sick of this motherf—ker

make your life simpler then roy and just stop watching the ufc all together. you’ll only support dana by watching his product.

by b.w. on Dec 27, 2007 2:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

from an insider of the UFC, someone told me the that Frank and Dana are having some problems because of dana’s mouth. He (DW) think’s he’s big time now and doesnt have to liston to his boss’s…

BUT yes a lot of fighters in the UFC are not makeing around 100k or less a yr and thats the top level ones. most are getting 10k &10 to win, or 12k &12k to win and if your not on dana’s good side you dont get bonus!!!!

I think the UFC will never reach the level it can with a guy who is not good for the sport as press…every other word out of that guys mouth is F*uck…which kills the sport!!

Dana needs to clean up his act and start paying the fighters right bc they build the UFC not him…. and not use the F* word.

by mmaking on Dec 27, 2007 2:42 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

why not post bas rutten’s comments on the downfall of pride and fedor’s crazy russian reps. you cant just post one side of the story.

I agree with Fedor on this issue with Dana and the ufc..everybody and their moms knew about Fedor being the number 1 guy to have in the hh division. It’s Dana’s way or no way..( now Dana says he is not even in the top6 )Dana takes shit mad personnal from his track record. He is not flexible when it comes to the fighter’s contract which was known b4 Fedor. I heard the given story from both sides..who do I believe. Fedor.

by PhilQNY on Dec 27, 2007 2:51 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Talk about power drunk. Sure he resurrected the UFC in a major way but pay the damn fighters. If he wasn’t so rigid with all of the UFC would have even more top fighters/marketshare than teh UFC already has. All his b.s. only breathes life into other promotions and allows them to poach fighters with better terms/pay. There is a critical mass of “defection” and all of a sudden you have another promotion that can legitimately compete with the UFC in talent and REVENUE! For a savy businessman he’s a knucklehead pure and simple. And if TUF really was Lorenzo’s idea and Dana opposed it (as I’ve heard), then between his cash, conviction, and that idea, who’s the real genius?

by Steamboat on Dec 27, 2007 2:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

why not post bas rutten’s comments on the downfall of pride and fedor’s crazy russian reps. you cant just post one side of the story.


my bad. it was bas boon. how many bas’es are there.

by b.w. on Dec 27, 2007 2:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I do get a kick out of Dana when he acts like he IS the UFC. The Fertitas own 90% of the UFC. Dana was lucky he had such rich buddies or he would still be teaching box-aerobics at the YMCA.

Good for him though for working his ass off and growing the business but he should cool it with the power trip. It will not serve him in the long run. I respect what he’s done but am growing tired of his attitude and foul language.

You can be sure that the Fertita brothers are wondering how to take the UFC to the next level with Dana taking on a different role in the org.

by Dana Blanco on Dec 27, 2007 2:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Fedor on this issue with Dana and the ufc..everybody and their moms knew about Fedor being the number 1 guy to have in the hh division. It’s Dana’s way or no way..( now Dana says he is not even in the top6 )Dana takes shit mad personnal from his track record. He is not flexible when it comes to the fighter’s contract which was known b4 Fedor. I heard the given story from both sides..who do I believe. Fedor.


i believe fedor as well! i just dont think he knew all that was going on. that contract was the crappiest of all time. too crappy to believe. i dont think even don king would try that one. i posted a previuos comment on another blog, so i’ll do it again. why just fedor? why not c.c, who lost twice but is still w/ thw ufc. why not shogun,werdum, herring, or hendo. they all lost their first fights and are still fighting , being paid by the ufc. why would they only single out fedor in this manner?

by b.w. on Dec 27, 2007 3:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

dana just give tito what he wants so he will come back and kick some a$$ baby!!!!!!!!!!

by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Dec 27, 2007 3:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Again with the beauty salon…

Right, what in the world would Dana know about a beauty salon? He’s been bald since his 15th birthday.

by ViolentMike on Dec 27, 2007 3:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i believe fedor as well! i just dont think he knew all that was going on. that contract was the crappiest of all time. too crappy to believe. i dont think even don king would try that one. i posted a previuos comment on another blog, so i’ll do it again. why just fedor? why not c.c, who lost twice but is still w/ thw ufc. why not shogun,werdum, herring, or hendo. they all lost their first fights and are still fighting , being paid by the ufc. why would they only single out fedor in this manner?

Maybe Zuffa is going into a ColdWar with Mother Russia..AA/Fedor..I could the crowd now.." U.S.A..U.S.A..!!!"
Oh God..help us..Dana was the right guy then in 2001..but in 2008 he is a virus to MMA. I would just like to see some " checks and balances " in respects to Dana’s actions..like G.W. we got D.W. he is going after other MMA organiztions like Bush is going at Arab countries.

by PhilQNY on Dec 27, 2007 3:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

dana just give tito what he wants so he will come back and kick some a$$ baby!!!!!!!!!!

He could give tit billions per fight, still wouldn’t kick anyones ass.

by GodDamnMike on Dec 27, 2007 3:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dana-ism…I love it. I dont want to hear this sh*t out of Dana’s mouth…..I want to hear him justify how he could possibly present Fedor with an UNSIGNABLE contract….He tried to throw tons of money at Fedor like he was sum hoe…..Props to Fedor!!!!!!!!!

yeah couldnt agree more. i can see why he took a less money offer to fight a great top heavy weight fighter in hong man choi…yeah who needs to beat randy to get some heavyweight props huh…(note: the sarcasm here)

by twizted203 on Dec 27, 2007 3:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If Tito and Randy want to put their own money on the line, rent a fight venue, pay for all the employees at the venue, pay for marketing and advertising, pay a bunch of fighters more than what Dana pays, pay for all the other expenses that go into a UFC event and still turn a good profit then have at it. Otherwise STFU.

I agree. Of course Dana has some weaknesses (who doesn’t?), but it seems to me that both Couture and Tito have done pretty well for themselves aligned with the Fertitta’s.(Couture especially has received preferrential treatment.) I do think though that now that the UFC is so big it is time for the Fertitta’s to bring someone else on board to take at least part of the the workload from Dana. The UFC needs to tweak a few things as do all developing business. I used to think that Couture was the man for the job – but it now seems that he is too unstable mentally. Where was Cuban five years ago?

by Muscle Dolphin on Dec 27, 2007 3:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If Tito and Randy want to put their own money on the line, rent a fight venue, pay for all the employees at the venue, pay for marketing and advertising, pay a bunch of fighters more than what Dana pays, pay for all the other expenses that go into a UFC event and still turn a good profit then have at it. Otherwise STFU.

EXACTLY!!!

by jdawg on Dec 27, 2007 3:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ok i agree too! why stick it to your Hall of famers like RAndy c and shamrock as he has issues with the ufc too!!!!! you don’t f the people you put in ur hall of fame you do not see this in other sports and if the uufc wants to grow then you don’t act like the fritittas and dana…..
WHAT can we do the fans the ones who spend every bit of money on every ppv like myself???
CAN we do something because my sport is mma not ufc pride was great now ufc bought it and killed it .
the ufc sucks the way it is being run
WHAT CAN WE DO GUYS call dana zuffa the ufc petition?!?!?!?!

by GORANDY on Dec 27, 2007 3:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ok i agree too! why stick it to your Hall of famers like RAndy c and shamrock as he has issues with the ufc too!!!!! you don’t f the people you put in ur hall of fame you do not see this in other sports and if the uufc wants to grow then you don’t act like the fritittas and dana…..
WHAT can we do the fans the ones who spend every bit of money on every ppv like myself???
CAN we do something because my sport is mma not ufc pride was great now ufc bought it and killed it .
the ufc sucks the way it is being run
WHAT CAN WE DO GUYS call dana zuffa the ufc petition?!?!?!?!

Here’s the UFC number : 702.221.4780

To anyone who wants contact their main office in LV.

by PhilQNY on Dec 27, 2007 3:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

one million bonus for beating gracie cum on, wheres the proof of that oh and Matt prob got only 50- 100,000$ only to fight gracie so it the bonus is fitting,
what about keith jardine getting pittily squat a six figure salary for tuf for 3 years thats like 30,000 per year plus if you fight, you’re broke poor
KEITH JARDINE should get a shot for the number one contender or title shot in the lhw div since he beat chuck , and i don’t want to listen to peiople like chuck liddell or GSp Chuck cant talk and is stupid, and GSp repeats the same damn thin g every time.
BASS made pride exciting he should be interviewing ufc or announcing, dana lies and lies and lies and flip flops its gotten so ridiculous
FIRE HIM

by GORANDY on Dec 27, 2007 3:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What dana needs to understand is that without the fighters the ufc makes no money and he makes no money. Dana always refers to how he saved the ufc when in reality the fertitta’s and the fighters were the ones who saved the company. I think Dana is doing a great job but he despertaly needs to clean up his act this guy drops more f bombs than i have ever heard in my life and he is the president of a huge company. I also feel the fighters make tons of money atleast the top tier guys such as chuck. You watch these ufc all acess shows and look at the houses these fighters live in look at the cars they drive they dont look like they are struggling for money to me. They have millionare dollar houses cars that cost hundreds of thousands and they are complaining about money. Just think with out the ufc these fighters wouldnt be famous they wouldnt be making millions they wouldnt be getting movie roles they wouldnt be endorsing products they wouldnt be known to the public for example look at frankie edgar what did he do before the ufc called him up to fight he was a freakin plumber what a occupation now he lives completely off fighting along and no longer has to work as a plumber. Most of these fighters let the fame get to them randy couture especially.

by matt on Dec 27, 2007 3:36 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

make your life simpler then roy and just stop watching the ufc all together. you’ll only support dana by watching his product.

all though dana acts as if he is the ufc, its more than him. i will watch when they put on great events and not watch when they try to sell weak cards, and i will support all other promoters that are putting on great shows.i like the ufc and want them to be the best i just think dana has token them as far as he can, now he is only damaging them.

by roy on Dec 27, 2007 3:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Mark Cuban is going to take over the sport. In 10 years Dana is going to be on some “where are they now” special.

by EazyEismydad on Dec 27, 2007 3:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

in this pre fight hype dana talks about bringing chuck to japan to possibly fight wandi but loss to jackson so why cant the ufc make fedor vs rndy happen its bull its bull

by GORANDY on Dec 27, 2007 3:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

the ufc stiffs its fighters—plain and simple. Even the big names don’t make what they deserve. Dana (while giving lorenzo a reacharound) is pocketing millions from each pay per view—making 10-100 times more than main event fighters.

I think Koscheck should have made at least 100k for his fight against st. pierre given ppv revenues. Look at it this way: if you only fight three times a year and you only make 10k per fight you’re barely above the poverty line.

On the other hand, the ufc does give its marketable fighters lots of promotion and endorsement opportunities. Guys like forest, randy and rich have made millions outside the ring, and have no cause to complain.

by Spitforce on Dec 27, 2007 3:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

out fedor in this manner?[/quote]

i don’t think they said they would termintate his contract for 1 loss just that they could if they wanted too, other fighters may have this in there contract its just if the ufc wants to use it

Does that sound right/fair to you??

by PhilQNY on Dec 27, 2007 3:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i just called the ufc and got transfered to their pr dep who was out of town left a message about my disslike for what dana is doing his double talk and that the ufc should see who buys their ppv’s and get info from themas to whom the;d like to see,

by GORANDY on Dec 27, 2007 4:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i don’t think they said they would termintate his contract for 1 loss just that they could if they wanted too, other fighters may have this in there contract its just if the ufc wants to use it

Does that sound right/fair to you??

hell no. i was just stating that for b.w. who seemed to think that if he lost 1 fight that his contract was terminated, it would be terminated if it benifitted the ufc only.for a fighter with no name they may sign something like that because they have no other choice but fedor was smart not to sign that crap.

by roy on Dec 27, 2007 4:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’m tired of everyone hating on Dana White. If it weren’t for him and the Fertitta Brothers, where would fighters like Forrest Griffin, KenFlo, Joe Daddy, Josh Koshcheck be? They would still be fighting small shows for Dirt pay. At least the fighters now are put in the spotlight and are able to get their names out there which bring them SPONSORS, which = $$$$.
He offered FEDOR all that money so he could
1. Market one of the biggest fights in UFC History
2. Give Randy Couture what he wants AGAIN,
3. GIVE us FANS the opportunity to see one of the best fighters in the world.

by pUniSHment on Dec 27, 2007 4:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Look what the UFC pays for, it’s not all cut and dry.

R & D
Production equipment
HD equipment
Staff
Upper Management
Marketing, marketing, and Marketing
Contracts
Just to name a few…the list goes on and on. The fighters are well paid and if you perform, your set up. A start up company would be so far behind the UFC (how they events are broadcast, where there events are broadcast, name recantation, Markey names, fans, R & D, just to name a few. I agree with Dana, he has taking the company a Long Long ways.

by BOSS on Dec 27, 2007 4:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

you are stupid BOSS DANA white

by GORANDY on Dec 27, 2007 4:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’m tired of everyone hating on Dana White. If it weren’t for him and the Fertitta Brothers, where would fighters like Forrest Griffin, KenFlo, Joe Daddy, Josh Koshcheck be? They would still be fighting small shows for Dirt pay. At least the fighters now are put in the spotlight and are able to get their names out there which bring them SPONSORS, which = $$$$.
He offered FEDOR all that money so he could
1. Market one of the biggest fights in UFC History
2. Give Randy Couture what he wants AGAIN,
3. GIVE us FANS the opportunity to see one of the best fighters in the world.

And if it weren’t for Dana White creating TUF, Matt Serra would not be the Welterweight Champion today. And Randy Couture would have a successfull clothing line and a acting career. Dana White built “The Natural” and “The Iceman”.

by pUniSHment on Dec 27, 2007 4:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Don’t fight if you don’t like the pay.
Randy should be praising the UFC. I mean what kind of organization allows you to retire after getting your head knocked off twice in a row at light Heavyweight and then you decide to come out of retirement and you get to fight for the Heavyweight title.

I wish he had gotten his head kicked in by Gonzaga.

by Wesley on Dec 27, 2007 5:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dana owns 10% of Zuffa llc. Frank and Lorenzo own the other 90%. Of course they are making a fortune, but you have to remember the ufc was a very small company when they took it over and they have built an empire out of it. They are the ones who put mma in the mainstream. None of the other mma companies should even be compared to the ufc, in the way of contributing to mma as a sport. I would say probably 90% of mma fans out there today would have no idea what mma is if it wasn’t for the ufc. Also there are so many debates on the pay structure of the ufc. Most people think the fighters are underpaid, but look at other types of entertainment. The pay structure is the same for movies and tv shows. The actors that will sell the most tickets earns the most. In the ufc the fighters that will sell the most tickets and payperview events make the most money. Why pay an actor with a small role in a film the same as the star of the film, that is who you really came to see. So why should you pay the fighters on the prelim. card the same as the fighters in the main event. The ufc is a business and they look at it that way. That is why they are the #1 mma org in the world. I have only been to 1 live ufc event, but it was ufc68 couture vs sylvia. I paid 4k for 2 4th row seats and was happy to pay that much. I came to see the main event and only the main event. I wouldn’t have paid that much to see 2 no names fight. These big names are what sells tickets and they deserve to make good money. I know alot of people are going to disagree with me, but to me this makes perfect sense, and obviously its working for the ufc.

by jhar4899 on Dec 27, 2007 5:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don’t even see how this is news. Every corporation in a free market economy works like this. The UFC fighters are equivalent to the labor market in other industries. The amount they are paid is going to be less than the revenue they generate for the corporation through their work. This disparity is called profit, and it’s the foundation of our economy. If the fighters (labor) don’t like this system, they are free to try to make more money with BodogFights, HDNetFights, M1 or some other promotion. If that’s not a viable option they can always change careers and get a 9-to-5. Contrary to what Tito and Randy seem to think, fighters are not guaranteed or owed a millionaire lifestyle.

Amen to this.

by Dave on Dec 27, 2007 5:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sorry posted that too fast.

As soon as the competition gets better, and starts paying their fighters, and Dana starts to lose his fighters to other organizations, then he’ll be forced to pay his fighters more. As for right now it doesn’t pay to be an ultimate fighter, just like it doesn’t pay to be a professional clown, or any other fun job in the world. Fighters know going in that they’re going to have to tough it out making very little money for a while before they can make it big. When there is more competition and the fighters start making m ore, there will probably be more fighters competing for it. So it’s never going to be easy for them.

by Dave on Dec 27, 2007 5:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i don’t think they said they would termintate his contract for 1 loss just that they could if they wanted too, other fighters may have this in there contract its just if the ufc wants to use it

Does that sound right/fair to you??

Like I Fedor, his management, and his attorny’s said…..It was an unsignable contract. He couldnt do Sh*t without the UFC’s permission: No movies, unsanctioned UFC interviews, Russian Sambo (which he is giving back to his country more then competing in sambo), if he kept winning the contract would automatically be extended, if he lost 1 fight the UFC had the option of terminating his contract, No members of his Red Devil fight team would be excepted in the UFC (I have no Idea why because some of those kids can fight, and have had good careers, also they got the Kid Kiril who has been labeled the next Fedor". Lets not forget the UFC tried to chump his little brother Alexander, why I have no Idea because that kid, is young, big, fast, skilled, and is said by many to have the fastest hands for a heavyweight.

I will agree with previous postings that this is too low even for Don King.

The money was right, but everything else was just rediculous. Dana tried to turn Fedor into a million dollar slave.

I am happy he stood up and signed elsewhere. Then again, with these terms being offered, did he really have any other choice?

by john on Dec 27, 2007 6:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He sounds like every record exec I’ve ever worked with.

Ive been in the music business for years, and I’m sure it works very similar to this.

One of the things that is consistent is bigger labels, screwing over the musicians (or fighters if you will) and then trying to justify it all by using a few examples of the artists they don’t screw over. “See, these guys are doing well!!”.

Smaller labels treat their artists better, they just don’t have the reach and promotion the bigger ones do. This is most likely why Fedor didn’t sign with the UFC. I don’t blame him, Dana is just another shark. Hunting for money, paying “most” of his fighters crap and then trying to explain it all away.

Yeh, keep raising those PPV event prices Dana, what are we at 44$ a shot now?? Yeh, you deserve some money too. I wonder if when the ppv price goes up, do fighters get more money? Nope.

by Squishy Dolphin on Dec 27, 2007 6:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

id be interseted to see how much dana gets paid

I’m not sure what dana salary is but he does own of the UFC. The UFC earn NETED 200 million 2007. So he made at the very least 20 million this year. What a peice of garbage he is.

by dana's cheap on Dec 27, 2007 6:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dana owns of the UFC. It didn’t come out in my post for some reason.

by dana's cheap on Dec 27, 2007 6:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lets try this a differnt way. Dana owns ten percent of the UFC. Mania why didn’t it let me say that?

by dana's cheap on Dec 27, 2007 6:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

End of the day if was not for the Fertitas along with Dana there would be no UFC for everyone to come on here and bitch about!!!

by Regy on Dec 27, 2007 6:32 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Screw Randy! being such a big cry baby. Dana should 4get about randy who in reality only has 2 maybe 3 more fights left anyways. Dana should focus more on promoting anderson silva, forrest griffin, frankie edgar, lesnar…and focus on making newer stars. Randy retired once before and it didn’t affect the UFC at all. Hell I’d love to see GSP go up to 185 and fight silva…wow what a dream match that would be.
Part of the blame goes to Fedor who declined UFC’s offer. Fedor wanted the contract in only his favor and how much profit he could make. But it doesn’t work that way, you have to negotiate. The UFC is a business organization and like cro-cop said, “shit happens”. lol

by blow foegan on Dec 27, 2007 7:34 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He sounds like every record exec I’ve ever worked with.

Ive been in the music business for years, and I’m sure it works very similar to this.

One of the things that is consistent is bigger labels, screwing over the musicians (or fighters if you will) and then trying to justify it all by using a few examples of the artists they don’t screw over. “See, these guys are doing well!!”.

Smaller labels treat their artists better, they just don’t have the reach and promotion the bigger ones do. This is most likely why Fedor didn’t sign with the UFC. I don’t blame him, Dana is just another shark. Hunting for money, paying “most” of his fighters crap and then trying to explain it all away.

Yeh, keep raising those PPV event prices Dana, what are we at 44$ a shot now?? Yeh, you deserve some money too. I wonder if when the ppv price goes up, do fighters get more money? Nope.

Well said..and a very good example.

If you guys go back and chk out that cnbc special ^bloodsport to mainstream…There was one part that stood out to me the most..the owner of Seg(former ufc owner) said they were trying to get the ufc back on cable-ppv..and they went to the nsac..to get the approval..and he said that things were going well they had felt..till he gets a call around midnight saying one of the commisioners had changed his mind and voted against the ufc…wanna know which who was it????

   Ã‚¨LORENZO FERRTITA¨…not too long afterward he gets a call from ¨Dana White¨..saying..¨hey guess what I have someone intrested in buying the ufc from you¨…and replied let me get one guess…

¨LORENZO FERRTITA¨..and Dana said..¨how did you know???

IMO..that was a grimmey move.

by PhilQNY on Dec 27, 2007 7:58 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow… Isn’t that how people end up in the desert.

Phil any chance you’d share where you read/heared that?
That is a slimey business move… but i’m interested in the details if you’ve got them.

by Big Zino on Dec 27, 2007 9:04 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wow…

Isn’t that how people end up in the desert.

Phil any chance you’d share where you read/heared that?
That is a slimey business move… but i’m interested in the details if you’ve got them.

Watch CNBC special on the ufc..from bloodsport to mainstream. Pay attention and youll see-hear what i am talking about.

by PhilQNY on Dec 27, 2007 9:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yo guys chk out this clip on Wandy and Chuck (2 Legends)

This shit is dope.

by PhilQNY on Dec 27, 2007 9:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

[quote comment=“246935”]Yo guys chk out this clip on Wandy and Chuck (2 Legends)

This shit is dope.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Z7RgEyitWos

by PhilQNY on Dec 27, 2007 9:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dana gets so much heat by self proclaimed hardcore mma fans.(Like the 90% above me) Any little thing he does and he is bashed into a living death. Casual fans tend to like him, but “hardcore mma fans” will never shut their pieholes. DANA RULES!!

by mexican dude on Dec 27, 2007 11:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Dana gets so much heat by self proclaimed hardcore mma fans.(Like the 90% above me) Any little thing he does and he is bashed into a living death. Casual fans tend to like him, but “hardcore mma fans” will never shut their pieholes. DANA RULES!!

Screwing his fighters over is a little thing? Sokoudjou even stated before that he was going to take a pay cut going over to UFC. Dana pays his fighters way too little.

This is probably the most aggressive sport there is, so with that in mind you can imagine the price of therapy, doctor visits, etc are higher than other sports. Not to mention what kind of condition these guys will be in when they are older. Hell look at Hulk Hogan, he’s all messed up, and that wasn’t even UFC fighting.

Is Dana in this kind of situation? Nope. He might get a blister moving the seat forward in his private jet. Aww boo.

by Squishy Dolphin on Dec 28, 2007 4:46 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hey I say the fighters must be at least content after all they’re still fighting.
and making 10 grand for 15 minutes of hard work is hardly a rip off. Everyone knows what the fighters get paid by the ufc and what they make from a fight from endorsements and other is also good pay. These men arn’t underpaid if they thought they we’re they would quit. Alot of them had careers elsewhere before they joined the ufc and instead chose to quit those, Why? money and it’s what they want to do.
I say leave it up to the fighters to complain about what they’re making.

by Jesse Canadian MMA on Dec 28, 2007 6:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

they guys that compare their salary to others are the people who bitch and moan. care about what you expect to make per fight, not the guy next to you and especially not the fucking president of the organization. im sure dana puts in tons of hours and he also took a risk with the fertita brothers in investing in the ufc, and it paid off, just like brokers in NY.

by UFCmn89 on Dec 28, 2007 7:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

i think that all fighters that say there not getting paid enough when there contract runs out sighn up for the ultimate fighter ,win it and get that six figure deal.and if that isnt enough money then your too freaking greety to be in this sport!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Dec 29, 2007 10:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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