That Blows.

CockBlockers!!!

I dont understand why the UFC would not want to cross-promote with M-1..

The UFC was willing to cross-promote with PrideFC for the Silva/LidDELL fight before they bought PrideFC..

that make me angry…. ill get you, ufc!!! (shaking fist in the air like a defeated super villain)

And now you know why Randy Couture is waiting till October 2008.

Dana White and the Bro’s are stupid for not making this deal.

M-1 vs. UFC..

Come on Dana!

I’m curious to see what m-1 was asking for this fight to happen, because even if you had to give Couture and Fedor say 5 mill each for this fight, especially if you put another top fight , or title fight on this card, it should easily pass 1 million buys and bring more exposure to the sport

I think it has to be some kind of insane deal M-1 wants though, because why would Dana pass this fight up when he know it will happen right after Randy becomes a free agent , unless he thinks Randy has no chance of getting out of his deal..

very confusing

this is bullshit, what the F*** is wrong with the UFC, this will be a hit!!!!, Fans will love it, use some F*** common sence Dana, “Do you want to be a fucking fighter” “that is the question” :)

this is bullshit, what the F*** is wrong with the UFC, this will be a hit!!!!, Fans will love it, use some F*** common sence Dana, “Do you want to be a F**** fighter” “that is the question”

as much as this fight would be great. i hope the UFC squashes M-1. i’m all for the UFC becming as prominent and ESTABLISHED as the NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB.

i don’t need this fight.

The fans want to see that fight. At some point, you have to put that first."
No they don’t. Dana did everything he could to make this fight happen in the UFC. Fedor chose to talk tough but back down from the best competition. Now this little nothing promotion is trying to piggy-back on the top MMA organization in the world with this co-promotion crap. M-1 had to know that UFC would never do anything to raise M-1’s profile and benefit their competition. M-1 only did this to try to make Dana and UFC look like the bad gus. Fedor and M-1 had their chance and they blew it. You can’t blame Dana White for this.

The fans want to see that fight. At some point, you have to put that first."
No they don’t. Dana did everything he could to make this fight happen in the UFC. Fedor chose to talk tough but back down from the best competition. Now this little nothing promotion is trying to piggy-back on the top MMA organization in the world with this co-promotion crap. M-1 had to know that UFC would never do anything to raise M-1’s profile and benefit their competition. M-1 only did this to try to make Dana and UFC look like the bad gus. Fedor and M-1 had their chance and they blew it. You can’t blame Dana White for this.

agree…

The fans want to see that fight. At some point, you have to put that first."
No they don’t. Dana did everything he could to make this fight happen in the UFC. Fedor chose to talk tough but back down from the best competition. Now this little nothing promotion is trying to piggy-back on the top MMA organization in the world with this co-promotion crap. M-1 had to know that UFC would never do anything to raise M-1’s profile and benefit their competition. M-1 only did this to try to make Dana and UFC look like the bad gus. Fedor and M-1 had their chance and they blew it. You can’t blame Dana White for this.

Agreed. I dont need to see this fight.

The fans want to see that fight. At some point, you have to put that first."
No they don’t. Dana did everything he could to make this fight happen in the UFC. Fedor chose to talk tough but back down from the best competition. Now this little nothing promotion is trying to piggy-back on the top MMA organization in the world with this co-promotion crap. M-1 had to know that UFC would never do anything to raise M-1’s profile and benefit their competition. M-1 only did this to try to make Dana and UFC look like the bad gus. Fedor and M-1 had their chance and they blew it. You can’t blame Dana White for this.

I am with you 100% on this one..

as much as this fight would be great. i hope the UFC squashes M-1. i’m all for the UFC becming as prominent and ESTABLISHED as the NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB.

i don’t need this fight.

True, as much as I want to see this fight, it helps the UFC in the long run. I would not do business with a promotion that is/will be struggling to make salaries. It would set a precedent that all you have to do is sign 1 big name and then you can ride the coat tails of the UFC to a payday.

Let Fedor and M-1 schedule the circus sideshows as their “main events” LMAO

I am not one of those “Dana Haters”, I like Dana. He is a great President and he has done soooo much for this sport to grow….

pw raised some great points…
Dana gave Fedor his chance and he blew it’’
Fedor is a great fighter and all’ but he will never be considered the #1 fighter in the world(imo) until he fights in the #1 MMa promotion in the world..The UFC!!

I’m curious to see what m-1 was asking for this fight to happen, because even if you had to give Couture and Fedor say 5 mill each for this fight, especially if you put another top fight , or title fight on this card, it should easily pass 1 million buys and bring more exposure to the sport

I think it has to be some kind of insane deal M-1 wants though, because why would Dana pass this fight up when he know it will happen right after Randy becomes a free agent , unless he thinks Randy has no chance of getting out of his deal..

very confusing

Robbie the problem isnt what M-1 is asking for, the problem is that M-1 is a start up company, and doing a co promotional event with the UFC will give the organization crediability and help launch M-1.

Dana is making a terrible mistake. Even if Fedor destroys Randy, the UFC could spin the story by saying Randy is 44 years old, he is about to retire anyway, he already relinguished his UFC title….

If Dana isnt willing to give us fans what we want…there should be reprocussions. I hope Randy does hold out of the UFC till October fights Fedor in the Biggest Fight ever, and Dana will have to order it on pay per view and not get any cutt of the action….

Someone start a freaking petition to try and coerce Dana into stop cockblocking this fight.

This fight isn’t going to happen. The UFC is going to have a legal fight with Randy in October when his contract is supposed to expire. If the UFC isn’t willing to cross-promote, then they sure as hell aren’t going to let this fight happen in another promotion. By the time everything gets cleared up, Randy will be a memeber of AARP and receiving social security checks.

I can see why the UFC won’t do this – it is a business after all, and to collaborate with a competitor who’s only known because of one fighter will not help the UFC.

 Other fighters/promoters would then want to do the same and would cite this as an example.

 The UFC only has fighters in exclusive contracts, and to allow Fedor to fight in a UFC bout would weaken its position considerably.

 I like Randy, but I do think he’s burned his bridges. Yes, the UFC should have offered him more to fight because of his status and loyalty, but at the same time Randy could have shown some more loyalty as well.

 I genuinely think that Fedor’s reputation has receded, now that he hasn’t fought any decent competition for a while. And M1 shows what it is really capable of (not a lot) by having him fight some lanky Korean with little experience in MMA.

Us Fans need to find a way to be heard. All busniessed are supposed to cater to the needs of its Target market.,…We are the UFC’s target market and we need to express our displeasure with the situation because in the end…without US the UFC doesnt exsist.

Get a petition circling!

The fans want to see that fight. At some point, you have to put that first."
No they don’t. Dana did everything he could to make this fight happen in the UFC. Fedor chose to talk tough but back down from the best competition. Now this little nothing promotion is trying to piggy-back on the top MMA organization in the world with this co-promotion crap. M-1 had to know that UFC would never do anything to raise M-1’s profile and benefit their competition. M-1 only did this to try to make Dana and UFC look like the bad gus. Fedor and M-1 had their chance and they blew it. You can’t blame Dana White for this.

I agree 100% with this. Dana has made MMA what it is today and for him to allow another promotion an opportunity like this would be the wrong move. He had no help what so ever getting this thing off the ground. If you had to thank anyone for taking a chance it would be Spike. So if another promotion wants to get big then they need to do it on their own. I applaud Dana for passing it up even though it would be the biggest event in MMA history by far. The big picture is what Dana is looking at. Not just right now.

I’d love to see this fight but it’s a bad deal for the UFC (Dana). If Couture wins, what happens? You prove Fedor isn’t unbeatable, Couture retires, Fedor continues to fight for M-1. Not much of a win. If Couture loses, paritcularly if he gets KTFO, then it proves Fedor, a guy you do NOT have under contract with the UFC, is the best MMA fighter in the world. He just beat your best guy, the face of the organization, and then goes away. It also legitimizes a rival organization.

Again, I’d love to see this fight but it’s just bad business for the UFC. They are better off just downplaying Fedor (Dana saying Fedor isn’t a top 5 heavyweight) and continuing to rake in the $$$ the way they have been.

guys,

This fight will happen. But not for awhile. RC has already said he is waiting for his contract to expire and then he will go and fight fedor where ever he is. Its sad that the UFC declined the offer. But to be honest the UFC is the best MMA organization and the most recognizable and the best at promoting. The UFC did not get the best fighters and recognition by making bad bussiness decisions. The UFC has and always will be the best in the bussiness. And because they make wise bussiness dicisions. Maybe Dana W. thought it would make the UFC look weak as if they need the other organizations to be succesfull or maybe he thinks it will make the UFC look like they USE other organizations as a crutch… who knows. But Im not worried or upset cause this fight WILL happen and I WILL watch it.

I don’t want to hear Dana keep preaching about what is good for the sport..what is good for the fans..crap..it’s all B/S.

I hope an M-1/MMA organiztions can compete with the UFC brand of MMA at a high level..because at this stage of the game..why be so selfish?? This is so easy to resolve..lets make it happen. I’m so disappointed as fan. Randy wants this fight. Fedor wants this fight. M1 wants this fight. Dana wants what he wants..if it’s not 100% UFC it’s not a 100% MMA. To think in our day in age..we all can be lessed to see such a fight occur. To say to future generations..how lucky we were live during the Jordan era..and the MMA golden years..but I’m going to explain Dana’s Ufcisim..

this is bullshit, what the F*** is wrong with the UFC, this will be a hit!!!!, Fans will love it, use some F*** common sence Dana, “Do you want to be a F**** fighter” “that is the question”

After two losses in a row and retired for over a year the UFC gave Randy a title-shot bout, a $500k signing bonus for FOUR fights and over a million a fight with PPV cuts (only one other fighter gets that kind of deal as far as I know). The UFC offered Fedor an offer (reportedly in the millions but it’s irrelavent) and he turned it down so he could fight in a Sambo tournament once a year that NO ONE EVEN SHOWS UP FOR. =\

And after all that, it’s now the UFC’s fault that this fight isn’t happening??? Randy signed with the UFC first. The next step has to be Fedor signing with the UFC. The UFC would be idiots if they did a co-promotion and it would do nothing but hurt their progress as a business (if Randy lost it would completely derail the Heavy Weight division 100 times worse than waiting for a TUF finale ever has and if Randy won the UFC gets what? nothing. status quo.). If Randy’s number one concern was to fight Fedor he should have waited to see where Fedor was going to sign before he signed.

I just don’t see how it’s the UFC’s fault that Randy AND Fedor both make awful career decisions. You guys are pathetic and obviously would never be able to run a successful business yourselves.

…

guys,

This fight will happen. But not for awhile. RC has already said he is waiting for his contract to expire and then he will go and fight fedor where ever he is. Its sad that the UFC declined the offer. But to be honest the UFC is the best MMA organization and the most recognizable and the best at promoting. The UFC did not get the best fighters and recognition by making bad bussiness decisions. The UFC has and always will be the best in the bussiness. And because they make wise bussiness dicisions. Maybe Dana W. thought it would make the UFC look weak as if they need the other organizations to be succesfull or maybe he thinks it will make the UFC look like they USE other organizations as a crutch… who knows. But Im not worried or upset cause this fight WILL happen and I WILL watch it.

It makes sense that the UFC would turn this down, first and foremost it is business and why would the UFC partner up with M-1 when M-1 has have nothing to offer? other than a fighter, do you think Wal-mart and sears would get together and have a sale? no because they are competitors in the same business…

I hope this will make everyone who was saying that Fedor was ducking Randy shut up. I can’t blame Dana, but it is obvious that for him and Zuffa it is more about the money than the love of the sport or giving the fans what they want. Dana is a shrewed businessman and it is hard to hold this decision against him. I just hope all the Fedor haters will shut up already. Let’s list the facts:

Randy wants the fight.
M-1 wants the fight.
Fedor wants the fight.
Zuffa doesn’t give a crap, unless they can have complete ownership of Fedor.

The UFC will own the M-1 promotion before they (M1)puts a show on. Then Fedor will belong to the UFC.

fans come first, instead of making some money all m-1 has to do is wait till randy’s contract expires and sign him for the fight . ufc should have taken the offer, it might have brought randy back to the ufc. the ufc keeps making bad mistake after another

Us Fans need to find a way to be heard. All busniessed are supposed to cater to the needs of its Target market.,…We are the UFC’s target market and we need to express our displeasure with the situation because in the end…without US the UFC doesnt exsist.

Get a petition circling!

What was the last company that catered to your needs?

That goes to show you Dana doesn’t give a shit about the fans he is to proud to host another orginization to set up the biggest fight of the decade. He should see this as a chance to make some money but instead Randy’s contract will expire and he won’t make shit off of this fight. What a dumbass.

I’d love to see this fight but it’s a bad deal for the UFC (Dana). If Couture wins, what happens? You prove Fedor isn’t unbeatable, Couture retires, Fedor continues to fight for M-1. Not much of a win. If Couture loses, paritcularly if he gets KTFO, then it proves Fedor, a guy you do NOT have under contract with the UFC, is the best MMA fighter in the world. He just beat your best guy, the face of the organization, and then goes away. It also legitimizes a rival organization.

Again, I’d love to see this fight but it’s just bad business for the UFC. They are better off just downplaying Fedor (Dana saying Fedor isn’t a top 5 heavyweight) and continuing to rake in the $$$ the way they have been.

Exactly, Dana says that Fedor isn’t even top 5, and that he is a farce, yet he doesn’t want to let this fight happen, WHY??? Because he knows Fedor has a good chance to rip Randy’s face out of his head. If Dana really feels this way, he should put his money where his mouth is. I mean, ppl keep saying Fedor was scared, and that pisses me off because he just wanted to keep competing in Sambo, which the UFC wouldn’t allow. It’s a different sport, if Fedor were ever to lose in a Sambo competition it wouldn’t effect his MMA record, which wouldn’t effect the image of the UFC.

And I think I’m the only one from a few who likes the idea of M1. Do you guys really want to have total domination from the UFC, we need to have a good competitor out there, and if Fedor can help grow M1 to be as big as Pride FC once was, we’ll get that competition back. I read somewhere that little Nog and Arona is also planning to sign with M1, which will give them more credibility as well.

It’s just a bad idea for the UFC to become a sole monopoly of MMA in my view.

And now you know why Randy Couture is waiting till October 2008.

Dana White and the Bro’s are stupid for not making this deal.

M-1 vs. UFC..

Come on Dana!

How are they stupid? M-1 is trying to use the UFC to build a name and unearth themselves as a legit event holder. UFC is smart for saying no. What the heck is M-1 anyway? They have one guy and are trying to build a name by piggy backing off the ufc, its success and their fans? I would tell them where to go too. When the UFC was growing it tried to do the same thing with Pride and it almost worked. Now everyone is trying to get their hands on the UFC market share. Aside from Fedor who the heck has M-1 signed? Give me someone legit and will draw fans?

fans come first, instead of making some money all m-1 has to do is wait till randy’s contract expires and sign him for the fight . ufc should have taken the offer, it might have brought randy back to the ufc. the ufc keeps making bad mistake after another

Fans(customers) come first but you have to really think, is Fedor really worth all the aftermath of destroying a brand name(UFC) that has been built up for years. I like Fedor but he refused to sign with UFC. It’s a choice he made not that M1 made it for him. I couldn’t care less if the fight doesn’t happen, there would be other great match-ups in the future but this is definately one that slipped by..

all this was, was a feeble attempt to make the ufc look bad and draw a fan base to M1.M1 had to know that the ufc would say no!really who does M1 have besides Fedor?i think it is childish of M1.

What was the last company that catered to your needs?

What are you smoking? Your business logic escapes me. What good business does what you are saying? Any good business builds a brand and, in this case, offers quality matches with top talent. The ufc has done this in more ways than one. Look at the recent acquisitions, the expansions in the european market, the purchase of pride, presence on mainstream television channels..etc… If it wasnt for the ufc, you’d most likely be watching mma on youtube or on pay per view only.

The problem is this – two individuals are being difficult in their own ways…Fedor joining M-1 and Randy bailing from his obligations…you should be more upset with these guys than Dana and the UFC. Did you miss the part where they offered Fedor a sick deal and he rejected it??? I guess so. Your “displeasure” should be directed towards the athletes not ownership. I will say it again..what the heck is M-1 anyway.

fans come first, instead of making some money all m-1 has to do is wait till randy’s contract expires and sign him for the fight . ufc should have taken the offer, it might have brought randy back to the ufc. the ufc keeps making bad mistake after another

If they let this fight happen, UFC contracts will mean nothing and fighters will take advantage..its called setting precedence.

It makes sense that the UFC would turn this down, first and foremost it is business and why would the UFC partner up with M-1 when M-1 has have nothing to offer? other than a fighter, do you think Wal-mart and sears would get together and have a sale? no because they are competitors in the same business…

Finally someone with a brain. I was starting to think 3/4th of the people in here are utter retards.

Randy should get all the credit he deserves, but this “feud” with the ufc seems totally unfounded. Especially when you look at the the actual $$ he was paid.

Randy is just pissed because he’d rather fight fedor now than a year from now. the ufc should have done more to get fedor—dana’s ego clearly had something to do with that.

prediction:

fedor coasts in m-1

Exactly, Dana says that Fedor isn’t even top 5, and that he is a farce, yet he doesn’t want to let this fight happen, WHY??? Because he knows Fedor has a good chance to rip Randy’s face out of his head. If Dana really feels this way, he should put his money where his mouth is. I mean, ppl keep saying Fedor was scared, and that pisses me off because he just wanted to keep competing in Sambo, which the UFC wouldn’t allow. It’s a different sport, if Fedor were ever to lose in a Sambo competition it wouldn’t effect his MMA record, which wouldn’t effect the image of the UFC.

And I think I’m the only one from a few who likes the idea of M1. Do you guys really want to have total domination from the UFC, we need to have a good competitor out there, and if Fedor can help grow M1 to be as big as Pride FC once was, we’ll get that competition back. I read somewhere that little Nog and Arona is also planning to sign with M1, which will give them more credibility as well.

It’s just a bad idea for the UFC to become a sole monopoly of MMA in my view.

Linx I completely agree with your comment. Monopoly’s are never good for consumers. We need M-1 to grow enough to compete with the UFC, if not Dana will become more an more of the dictator of mma, and that is a terrible thing for fans of the sport and its fighters.

Hey Linx, what did you think of that website I gave u the other day?

WHO CARES!!?? This is as bad as the steroids talk in baseball. There’s nothing substantial and it’s all posturing / hearsay. It’s not gonna happen anytime soon so why do we continue to waste time chatting about it. It was a low ball move by M-1 and a better decision by Dana. I don’t really care for Dana but he did the right thing here. Nothing can or will be done about this fight until…who knows when…so why waste BLOG space with it. Get over it. Grrrrrr!!! There are far more compelling bouts in the near future to discuss. Fedor, go fight your mutant freak and Randy, go do…well…whatever it is you do while you sit out. Enough said about it.

nice publicity stunt by M-1

Fedor’s a a stupid f*** for not signing with the UFC..M-1 thinks their too clever making the UFC look like the one who turned down the fight..Fedor’s just a scared little b**** who doesn’t want to get beat the living crap out of courtesy of ‘The Natural’…

must be more to this story….

just goes to show that if the ufc cant make all the money by them self then they wont make any money at all i cant beleave that the ufc wont want to jump all over this the fight is going to happen no matter what but i guess the ufc doesnt want a piece of that pie o well it mite be a good thing becuse the ufc would probly charge like 70 bucks for the ppv anyway so its money saved in my pocket

The fans want to see that fight. At some point, you have to put that first."
No they don’t. Dana did everything he could to make this fight happen in the UFC. Fedor chose to talk tough but back down from the best competition. Now this little nothing promotion is trying to piggy-back on the top MMA organization in the world with this co-promotion crap. M-1 had to know that UFC would never do anything to raise M-1’s profile and benefit their competition. M-1 only did this to try to make Dana and UFC look like the bad gus. Fedor and M-1 had their chance and they blew it. You can’t blame Dana White for this.

… here the article is clearly stating that the UFC is in this case responsible for not allowing this fight to happen…I understand business but c’mon. Is Dana feeling nervous that Fedor will run thru Randy after his “fedor is not top 5” comments I have nothing against Randy but I am a little wierded out by the UFC methods as of late….

Show me some evidence that Dana / UFC did everything to make this fight happen (news articles, inside papers, secret audio recordings, etc)

You probably feel that it has to happen in the UFC. Fedor is considered #1 by the world, Randy only by the USA, UFC needs to make this fight happen, Fedor doesn’t need to do sh*t…

Did you know that Randy was offered to fight Fedor in Bodog? Do you remember UFC was willing to co promote with Pride for Silva / LIddell when it was first feased up…

True, as much as I want to see this fight, it helps the UFC in the long run. I would not do business with a promotion that is/will be struggling to make salaries. It would set a precedent that all you have to do is sign 1 big name and then you can ride the coat tails of the UFC to a payday.

Let Fedor and M-1 schedule the circus sideshows as their “main events” LMAO

BONG

If Dana ain’t the one getting the lion’s share of the profits he ain’t having any of it. Typically money blood. Give M-1 a lil promotion ? Not on Dana’s watch, not even for the super fight on the decade.

i’ve never pissed before about a new s from MMA until this one,

man that take alot of energy from me to know that the UFC is blocking the fight that all MMA fans what to see.

it make me hate more & more dana. if i can only punch dana…

im very angry right now

if couture fights fedor in a cross promotion and loses M1 can say with no doubt that the have the #1 heavyweight in the world and that will do nothing but make M1 a fighting organization…..it would be so stupid if you look at the buisness side of it

Dana should just let Randy go, and do whatever he needs to do to void his conract. BUT, that will never happen. Randy has done just as much for the UFC as anyone. The least they can do is pay him back with the one and only fight he wants before retiring. If they won’t have an interpromotion fight, then VOID THE CONTRACT. Whenever and wherever Randy and Fedor fight, Dana would be rooting for Randy to (in his mind) prove that the UFC was always better than PRIDE. So why would Dana want Randy to get a full year older before fighting Fedor? As each month goes by, the chances of Randy winning go down ever so slightly. If/When the fight does happen, I want Randy to be as young and fresh as possible, and I want the fight to take place in a cage. I want and think that every little variable should be in favor of Randy. Nobody wants to see this fight finally take place and Randy comes within an inch of losing his life. Make it happen ASAP or never.

as much as this fight would be great. i hope the UFC squashes M-1. i’m all for the UFC becming as prominent and ESTABLISHED as the NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB.

i don’t need this fight.

EXACTLY. Competition in sports is only good when it’s all under the same roof. The reason we know the best teams and players in the major sports is because they all play in the same league, and if they don’t they sure as hell want to. Nobody grows up wanting to play arena football, they want to play in the NFL. When the NFL hold an exhibition game with the Super Bowl champs playing the winner of the NCAA national title, then maybe there is an argument as to why this fight should happen. But until then (which would be right around the time hell freezes over) people whining about UFC not “giving the fans what they want” can cry about it, because at this point I sure as hell don’t want it anymore.

Randy isn’t the champ anymore, he gave it up. Fedor is playing in the minor leagues. I can see the headline for the PPV now: Wash-Up vs. Wash-Up. At least when the UFC wanted to cross promote with Pride, one could argue Pride was a major league. M-1 is a joke at this point, and will continue to be a joke when the main event has “the best fighter in the world” fighting a huge Korean guy that doesn’t stop growing and a record of a whopping 1-0 in MMA.

If MMA is going to become an accepted mainstream sport, there has to be one (and only one) major league (or promotion in this case). If it isn’t going to be the UFC, as an MMA fan I’d be very worried. To truly put the fans first, you have to do what’s good for the sport overall, especially considering this is a growing sport. Cross promoting with some 2-bit startup promotion is not good for the UFC, and you all can disagree as much as you want with what I’m about to say: What is not good for the UFC is not good for MMA. And inversely, what is good for the UFC is good for MMA. Randy vs. Fedor as a cross promotion is not good for the UFC, and that’s that.

Oh dear… here we come again

Dana,

Make this happen. If these two juggernauts never fight it will be your fault and you will look back at this moment of your life in regret.

MAKE IT HAPPEN!

Randy is overrated. He couldn’t compete at 205 and moved up to a weak heavyweight division. Now that UFC has gotten a couple of real heavyweights he’s scared.
Fedor was the man but his limited high-level competition will cost him.

I agree that it benefits UFC more to not co promote with M-1 to give them such good exposure, and seem credible as an orginization. The only problem is Randy Couture is the poster child of UFC, and when you think of UFC you can’t help but think Couture also. Once Couture does get to fight Fedor after his contract is up with UFC he will do it solely under the M-1 banner…meaning the UFC will gain nothing from the fight, but the fight will still bring M-1 the attention it wanted just as if the UFC had done the co promotion, but instead the UFC will gain nothing at all. Also, a bitter Couture will probably become M-1’s new poster child, and help the orginaztion out big time.

Question: would the fight have been for a title.

Linx I completely agree with your comment. Monopoly’s are never good for consumers. We need M-1 to grow enough to compete with the UFC, if not Dana will become more an more of the dictator of mma, and that is a terrible thing for fans of the sport and its fighters.

Hey Linx, what did you think of that website I gave u the other day?

your both right i don’t want a monopoly, the ufc puts on alot of weak show when they do have good talent because they feel you have no other good choice i loved watching pride and ufc.the ufc gets rid of fighters for personal reasons and its bs.some people here have there head so far up the ufc’s a** that they beleave everything dana says.dana says something then the next thing you got people here saying it as if it where true.

you know what.. it will be hard to promote this fight. if it happens.. cause UFC will do everything in the legal way.they will not promote couture in any way upto the last day of his contract, meaning couture will be like a ghost, no meadia exposure in UFC fights.. and the vid materials HAHA! no way M-1 would use that videos UFC has legal rights with and also fedor being a PRIDE fighter, no videos for him too… so its gonna be interesting how M-1 will promote that fight.. IMHO.

Dana should just let Randy go, and do whatever he needs to do to void his conract. BUT, that will never happen. Randy has done just as much for the UFC as anyone. The least they can do is pay him back with the one and only fight he wants before retiring. If they won’t have an interpromotion fight, then VOID THE CONTRACT. Whenever and wherever Randy and Fedor fight, Dana would be rooting for Randy to (in his mind) prove that the UFC was always better than PRIDE. So why would Dana want Randy to get a full year older before fighting Fedor? As each month goes by, the chances of Randy winning go down ever so slightly. If/When the fight does happen, I want Randy to be as young and fresh as possible, and I want the fight to take place in a cage. I want and think that every little variable should be in favor of Randy. Nobody wants to see this fight finally take place and Randy comes within an inch of losing his life. Make it happen ASAP or never.

thats right there going to fight anyway so why not as soon as possible to give randy his best chance.

When a top Athlete says something along the lines “It doesn’t make sense to fight anybody else” means that, that individual is a paper champ. Randy changed divisions in order to exploit a fighter who he has trained with. As much as the HW division needed a shake up, all in all Randy took advantage of a so-called friend and one time training partner. Does anybody remember pre-Chuck and Tito 2, when Randy was said that if Tito managed to beat Chuck, Randy said he would come out of retirement so he could spank Tito again. Randy’s Ranking amongst heavy weights is bullshit and even Josh Barnett recognized it when Randy had won the Heavyweight title. How does one lose a title shot at lighter “easier” division and immediately get an opportunity to fight for a bigger title? It’s Garbage. Randy fighting Fedor will prove nothing and if Randy loses it destroys the UFC’s Heavyweight Credibility, if he wins he retires anyways and we are left to wonder who the best in the world is AGAIN. Even if this fight happens in M-1 i’m sure it will be entertaining, but it won’t be recognized as anything.

Sorry to get off Topic, but Check out the video of Matt Aroyo’s audiction tape for the ultimate fighter…Its interesting, funny, yet disturbing.

http://myvideofight.com/video/other-rings/matt-arroyos-tuf-6-audition-video/index.html

Oh well, Randy will fight Fedor when he’s 50.

Sorry to get off Topic, but Check out the video of Matt Aroyo’s audiction tape for the ultimate fighter…Its interesting, funny, yet disturbing.

http://myvideofight.com/video/other-rings/matt-arroyos-tuf-6-audition-video/index.html

ViolentMike: Make sure you check this website out. www.myvideofight.com Its my favorite site for mma matches. It shows a lot of exotic Pride and UFC fights that are hard to find on DVD (Tito vs. Wanderlei) (Many Pride fights not out on DVD yet) Also if you click on the “Other Rings” tab…U find a lot of interesting fights, in smaller shows, by popular fighters.. BJ Penn vs. Rodrigo gracie. George Sotiropolous vs Shinya Akoi, Old Fedor fights, Mac Danzig.

It is a really interesting site that I suggest you take a look at when u get the chance if you aren’t familiar with it already.

Here I got it let’s boycott the ufc for 1 ppv until they give us the fight we want to see.Hit em where it hurts

This whole thing wouldn’t be a discussion if Randy would just finish his contract and complete the last two fights on it. It really is Randy’s fault that the fight isn’t going to happen. C’mon! Fight Nog and some other chump and then you’re free as a bird to go fight whoever.

Allowing Fedor to fight Randy inside the UFC would be one thing, but there’s no way Dana White would allow the UFC to promote a brand new organization before it even got its feet off of the ground. A Pride/UFC would have been different because Pride was very established and a rivalry was built. But M-1 would automatically skyrocket just by piggybacking off of the UFC.

BOOOOOO… I think we should all pitch in some money, build a cage and ask the two of them to fight, so us as fans can finally get what we were asking for!

It’s funny how the same fans that cry and moan about ppv prices also cry and moan that the fighters should make more per fight (?) do the math…

Most everyone probably thinks this but no one is saying it: you think M-1 offered this out of the “goodness of their hearts”? You think M-1 offered this because this is what the fans want? Come on. Don’t be stupid. M-1 promoters are as much about the money as Dana is. Teaming with the UFC means $signs for the M-1 guys. Instant recognition and intant $$$; all without the hard work and dedication to finding and developing new talent to build a rival league!

I am all for mma competition and other leagues competing. If M-1 wants to compete with the UFC, they need to do what the UFC did. Search out mma minor leagues and discover and develop and promote talent the old fashioned way. It took the UFC over 10 years to get to where they are today; giving us quality fights that we enjoy and want to see.

M-1, find and develop new talent that rivals the UFC instead of attempting to be a parasite on their success.

And to those that hate on Dana, respect the man for the hard work he put into a sport that without him and the Fertittas, would be dead right now; and this website probably wouldn’t exist.

NOW we know how much the UFC and Dana care about the fans, this is more than proof. They don’t care one bit, about the fans or the sport only themselves!

I think it’s a good move by UFC…M-1 is competiton..Friggin Fedor should have signed with the UFC… Imagine the competition he woud have…THe paydays…The endorements..As if the UFC is going to put money into the pockets of Competition…It won’t happen, and it’s bussiness…
We’ll still Randy vs Fedor…just not under any UFC stipulations. And that is totally okay…That will be one big event for M-1, it’s too bad that Fedor didn’t try the Cage for this one…

This is so frustrating.

the ufc has 2 pull their head out of their asses. you guys on hear r saying that u think that the ufc thinks that it would do more good 4 M-1 then them that is stupid if randy beats fedor that would say the ufc has got the best of the best fighters. and how is that not helpfully 2 the ufc. if people seen the matt linland fight u would know randy is going 2 beat him down badly. fedor had 2 cheat 2 win against matt who is a middlewieght fighter. now put someone in there that is used 2 fighting bigger fighters and u should know the end result. RANDY KICKS FEDOR ASS BADLY

WHO CARES!!?? This is as bad as the steroids talk in baseball. There’s nothing substantial and it’s all posturing / hearsay. It’s not gonna happen anytime soon so why do we continue to waste time chatting about it. It was a low ball move by M-1 and a better decision by Dana. I don’t really care for Dana but he did the right thing here. Nothing can or will be done about this fight until…who knows when…so why waste BLOG space with it. Get over it. Grrrrrr!!! There are far more compelling bouts in the near future to discuss. Fedor, go fight your mutant freak and Randy, go do…well…whatever it is you do while you sit out. Enough said about it.

drew what fight r u talking about cause i’d really like 2 know who the best heavywieght is and as far as the ufc bouts i think the best up and coming event would b the next fight night they got a whole bunch of stupid fights going on. u people keep talking about liddell and silva wow i couldn’t care less about this fight liddell is over rated always has been and so is silva. and griffin VS. jackson come on wake the f*ck up! DREW lay off the crack man

u people on here need 2 lay of the crack

Here I got it let’s boycott the ufc for 1 ppv until they give us the fight we want to see.Hit em where it hurts

Well everyone on this blog would be up for it but the challenge is to get the whole United States to do it. If we are going to do it, lets do it after 79 because nobody wants to miss that one.

This isn’t the be all end all of fights, not even close. Matt Linland and Randy Couture are practically cut out of the same mold when it comes style wise. Randy can survive against Brazilians but Fedor is a totally different animal. The only way Randy could ever pull it off if he managed to cut Fedor bad enough to stop the fight or injury etc. The underdog factor will be non existent. Randy only wants this fight to solidify where his place is in MMA. Randy could’ve very easily challenged Rampage for the Lt Heavyweight title, and is obviously scared shitless of the rest of HW division. Defending his belt against Gonzaga Randy took some pretty hard shots, I’m surprised he wasn’t KO’d from that huge head kick near the end of the fight. How can Randy be ranked so high for only beating a guy he could never lose to and defending his title once against someone who was supposed to lose the fight that got him there.

Is it just me or does Fedor look like he has the mange in this picture, wow.

I think it’s a good move by UFC…M-1 is competiton..Friggin Fedor should have signed with the UFC… Imagine the competition he woud have…THe paydays…The endorements..As if the UFC is going to put money into the pockets of Competition…It won’t happen, and it’s bussiness…
We’ll still Randy vs Fedor…just not under any UFC stipulations. And that is totally okay…That will be one big event for M-1, it’s too bad that Fedor didn’t try the Cage for this one…

Completely agree with both of you. Yes, a business man has to consider the satisfaction of his clients, but first he has to maintain the integrity of the business. If worse comes to worse, Fedor beats Randy, M-1 is credited for having the #1 fighter, M-1 now has a competitive edge over UFC and is now a threat. Bad move for the business man, Dana. On the other hand, Dana agrees, the mma market is more competitive and the need to market great fights for the fans will raise for both organizations. It would be a great move for the fan’s entertainment.

I understand why Dana declined, but since I’m not Dana, i’m a fan….. I’m dissapointed.

I think randy vs fedor will be a great fight, but u people r forgetting the bigger picture here. What about the rest of the card, how would they promote or set that up. Obviously u can’t just have one mega fight and not stack the card with other good fights. Besides this is just M-1’s ploy to get more exposure via the more established and well known UFC. I think the UFC needs to 4get and let randy out of his contract, and instead focus on promoting and building newer stars like lesnar, vera and even kongo. UFC is a smart company because they think of the future and not just for the present like M-1. So Randy and Fedor was dream fight for me, but I don’t think it was meant to be. Hell, I would pay to watch GSP vs Anderson Silva, talk to another dream match for the middle weight title, WOW!

And the UFC cares about fans….ya right. Spite sounds more like there motive here, like a wounded girlfriend, dana I thought you were a businessman.

I have a whole conspiracy theory that I thought of right after the resignation, and here it goes:

Dana White is in on the resignation! He’s fine with it and here’s why.

Randy resigns through a fax? (Doesn’t sound like something Captain America would do.) Then claims he asked for the same amount of money Fedor would get to fight him, and was denied. He believes he will be able to fight Fedor in 9 months, even though he owes Dana two fights on his contract.

In the mean time, Fedor signs with M-1 with a cause that the UFC champion would get $1 million to fight and he is allowed to fight outside of M-1.

Randy’s contract dispute will leave Dana with no choice but to strip the belt from Randy and have a title fight for the vacant belt. All blamed on the “dirt-bag Hollywood agent”

Randy “realizes” that he will not be able to fight outside his UFC contract. Dana sets up a one fight deal with Randy to come back, as the uncrowned champ, to fight Fedor. (So the UFC doesn’t set a precedent of allowing champions to fight non-UFC fighters.)

Randy gets paid Fedor money without Dana having to offer him money outside his contract. (so other fighters won’t get bright ideas to ask for more money halfway through their contract)

The biggest fight of all time will be set up. (the only fight right now that is able to carry a Liddell vs. Silva of two years ago like drawl. If Randy loses, the UFC champ didn’t lose. If he wins, the UFC had the greatest fighters all along. All other fighters keep their current contracts without disputes.

Randy gets his last, most desired fight, gets big money, and can retire in the UFC.
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The conspiracy is still holding on. The fight will happen with or without the UFC, so I think UFC reconsider when the contract expiration date comes closer.

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ViolentMike: Make sure you check this website out. www.myvideofight.com

Its my favorite site for mma matches. It shows a lot of exotic Pride and UFC fights that are hard to find on DVD (Tito vs. Wanderlei) (Many Pride fights not out on DVD yet) Also if you click on the “Other Rings” tab…U find a lot of interesting fights, in smaller shows, by popular fighters.. BJ Penn vs. Rodrigo gracie. George Sotiropolous vs Shinya Akoi, Old Fedor fights, Mac Danzig.

It is a really interesting site that I suggest you take a look at when u get the chance if you aren’t familiar with it already.

John, THANK YOU for the Christmas present!!!!!! What a site!!! Thanks!!!!!

I can see why the UFC won’t do this – it is a business after all, and to collaborate with a competitor who’s only known because of one fighter will not help the UFC.

Other fighters/promoters would then want to do the same and would cite this as an example.

The UFC only has fighters in exclusive contracts, and to allow Fedor to fight in a UFC bout would weaken its position considerably.

I like Randy, but I do think he’s burned his bridges. Yes, the UFC should have offered him more to fight because of his status and loyalty, but at the same time Randy could have shown some more loyalty as well.

I genuinely think that Fedor’s reputation has receded, now that he hasn’t fought any decent competition for a while. And M1 shows what it is really capable of (not a lot) by having him fight some lanky Korean with little experience in MMA.

YUP, I’ve been saying the exact same thing, so instead of rewriting it… I’m tagging along on your comment!

I hope this will make everyone who was saying that Fedor was ducking Randy shut up. I can’t blame Dana, but it is obvious that for him and Zuffa it is more about the money than the love of the sport or giving the fans what they want. Dana is a shrewed businessman and it is hard to hold this decision against him. I just hope all the Fedor haters will shut up already. Let’s list the facts:

Randy wants the fight.
M-1 wants the fight.
Fedor wants the fight.
Zuffa doesn’t give a crap, unless they can have complete ownership of Fedor.

I don’t blame either side, but as a fan, the only one that doesnt want this fight to happen is ZUFFA aka Dana White & Owners. So I have to side against ZUFFA on this one.

I’m curious to see what m-1 was asking for this fight to happen, because even if you had to give Couture and Fedor say 5 mill each for this fight, especially if you put another top fight , or title fight on this card, it should easily pass 1 million buys and bring more exposure to the sport

I think it has to be some kind of insane deal M-1 wants though, because why would Dana pass this fight up when he know it will happen right after Randy becomes a free agent , unless he thinks Randy has no chance of getting out of his deal..

very confusing

Dana is willing to pass this fight up because he already didn’t like how the dealings with Fedor went before and he doesn’t want Fedor to come away with a record payday after puting UFC thru hell when they tried to sign him.

What will happen is M-1 will eventually host the fight after october 08’ but it wont matter as much because M-1 has limited exposure and the public is trained to believe that in MMA that the undercards should be great matches as well because of the chance that the main fight can end in a second. I dont see M-1 being able to put together a luring enough card to make any real noise in the PPV market and thus a great matchup will be lost to the PPV wastelands

John, THANK YOU for the Christmas present!!!!!! What a site!!! Thanks!!!!!

u got it buddy!1

it sucks but it’s good business

UFC = COCKBLOCKERS … the biggest fight in the history of MMA will take place under the M-1 Organization after Oct, AND Dana wont be getting a dime of it !!!!

FEDOR EMEILIANKO VS RANDY COUTURE

Fedor will get 2 to 3 fights before him and randy meet then we will see the fight of the century!

Sorry to get off Topic, but Check out the video of Matt Aroyo’s audiction tape for the ultimate fighter…Its interesting, funny, yet disturbing.

http://myvideofight.com/video/other-rings/matt-arroyos-tuf-6-audition-video/index.html

Good site, looked for the BJ Penn vs GSP fight..One of those fights that was really close

Randy keeps talking about his contract expiring. I don’t think it does. That expiry is there to protect the fighter in the event that the UFC does not book them to fight opponents (like Arlovski who has one fight left, but the UFC is not offering him the opportunity to fulfill his terms). In this case the UFC is being smart by offering him NOG, and then when he does not fulfill the terms of his contract by not accepting any fights, there is no expiry. Randy is basically retired, because he will never be able to fight anywhere else.

Further, why would the UFC want this? Yes it offers the one time chance of extraordinary profit, but there is nothing to be gained in the long term (which any business looks at). Right now it is disputed who the best HW is. Randy or Fedor. If Fedor wins, then M-1 now has the # 1 HW uncontested. It gives M-1 credibility. Why would the UFC want its champion not fighting for them? Fedor beats Randy and he is basically the UFC champion whether it is on paper or not. Then who ever wears the belt next is just a paper champion at best. Nothing to really gain other then some money. And the UFC knows better then anyone, what made their organization a success, was how they promoted their talent as being the best. (whether true or not).

Its not a coincidence that the two most respectable and honorable fighters and champions in MMA want to have nothing to do with the UFC.

Finally someone with a brain. I was starting to think 3/4th of the people in here are utter retards.

nah, deyo there are a few people who don’t have their head up there ass. i’m not gonna post all ur comments. i just flat out agree with all of em. lotsa dumb people but w/e. dana built the sport to be what it is, and i was introduced to mma because of him.

We do need to see this fight! It means alot to us true Couture fans and it means alot to Randy Couture! He is the best heavyweight!Let him show Fedor! Dana,I love ya like a brother and you have done alot for this sport,but you need to make this fight happen!This fight will be a blockbuster! Its a win win for fans,the UFC,and M-1.Lets show M-1 we have the best of the best in the UFC!

Randy keeps talking about his contract expiring. I don’t think it does. That expiry is there to protect the fighter in the event that the UFC does not book them to fight opponents (like Arlovski who has one fight left, but the UFC is not offering him the opportunity to fulfill his terms). In this case the UFC is being smart by offering him NOG, and then when he does not fulfill the terms of his contract by not accepting any fights, there is no expiry. Randy is basically retired, because he will never be able to fight anywhere else.

Further, why would the UFC want this? Yes it offers the one time chance of extraordinary profit, but there is nothing to be gained in the long term (which any business looks at). Right now it is disputed who the best HW is. Randy or Fedor. If Fedor wins, then M-1 now has the # 1 HW uncontested. It gives M-1 credibility. Why would the UFC want its champion not fighting for them? Fedor beats Randy and he is basically the UFC champion whether it is on paper or not. Then who ever wears the belt next is just a paper champion at best. Nothing to really gain other then some money. And the UFC knows better then anyone, what made their organization a success, was how they promoted their talent as being the best. (whether true or not).

I totally agree. I think the UFC is being smart on this one. And in case you haven’t noticed, Randy quit b/c of money not b/c he didn’t want to have anything to do with the UFC. He wanted Fedor, they could not deliver and he got mad when they offered Fedor more money than he makes. The UFC is a good solid organization and number one in the game. Has the best fighters and best shows. Believe me I watch a lot, and the UFC is the best show.

I’m kind of shocked at a few of the responses in this thread…“i don’t need to see this fight”…“it sucks but its good business”…“i hope the ufc squashes m1”…

I mean geez…when did it become more about business than the fights? and how the hell is putting on this fight “bad business” anyway? a fight between arguably the best HW’s in the world, large number of PPV buys, Couture’s 2nd comeback. This is basically the biggest fight the UFC could put on atm and some of you are saying you don’t care cause it’s bad for business…? come on…

ViolentMike: Make sure you check this website out. www.myvideofight.com

Its my favorite site for mma matches. It shows a lot of exotic Pride and UFC fights that are hard to find on DVD (Tito vs. Wanderlei) (Many Pride fights not out on DVD yet) Also if you click on the “Other Rings” tab…U find a lot of interesting fights, in smaller shows, by popular fighters.. BJ Penn vs. Rodrigo gracie. George Sotiropolous vs Shinya Akoi, Old Fedor fights, Mac Danzig.

It is a really interesting site that I suggest you take a look at when u get the chance if you aren’t familiar with it already.

most of randy;’s fights were removed from the site :(

… here the article is clearly stating that the UFC is in this case responsible for not allowing this fight to happen…I understand business but c’mon. Is Dana feeling nervous that Fedor will run thru Randy after his “fedor is not top 5” comments I have nothing against Randy but I am a little wierded out by the UFC methods as of late….

Show me some evidence that Dana / UFC did everything to make this fight happen (news articles, inside papers, secret audio recordings, etc)

“http://mmamania.com/2007/09/02/ufc-quick-quote-fedor-talks-didnt-go-well/” I do believe if you goggle somemore, they offered Fedor a sick deal and Randy was pissed the sticking point was not letting Fedor do Sambo Tournaments. And How the hell would I have secret audio and inside papers..who the hell are you..what do you think I am CIA??

You probably feel that it has to happen in the UFC. Fedor is considered #1 by the world, Randy only by the USA, UFC needs to make this fight happen, Fedor doesn’t need to do sh*t…

Did you know that Randy was offered to fight Fedor in Bodog? Do you remember UFC was willing to co promote with Pride for Silva / LIddell when it was first feased up…

UFC was willing to lease out liddell to fight in pride to prove ufcs dominance with their fighter not copromote ..get it right.M1 is willing to work with ufc cus they have nothing to lose and the ufc is….being obstinant even though they know theyd make some cash off it but some isnt enough they want it all they want to be the ones pullig it off..and to be honest randy is still the champ regardless of how the ufc calls it …he never lost his belt end of story if he fights fedor its unification even if unnofficially…

John, THANK YOU for the Christmas present!!!!!! What a site!!! Thanks!!!!!

Yo John..even though my name was not on it..I opened it. Thanks like VM said..what a gift. That is basically a MMA virtual libary..I luve it. This is how Like to start a new year.

On a personal note guys I’ve been training BJJ since 01’ trained over in Brazil for a minute. ( as you know I love MMA!!!!! ) I teach on the side for my coach. I had an injury last year and that just two months I had surgery to fix it. So I’ve been going to rehab ( depressing/painful )..I don’t roll..but I still teach to keep my BJJ mind flowing..but I put on 30lbs or vanilla milkshakes..and blogging here with VM/John which I consider you two guys to be the top of the commentator food chain. You F’n know what ya’ll talking about…and with 87% of these mofo’s don’t know jack from bisping. Just wanted to give you two guys a shout out and thanks for posting here.

… here the article is clearly stating that the UFC is in this case responsible for not allowing this fight to happen…I understand business but c’mon. Is Dana feeling nervous that Fedor will run thru Randy after his “fedor is not top 5” comments I have nothing against Randy but I am a little wierded out by the UFC methods as of late….

Show me some evidence that Dana / UFC did everything to make this fight happen (news articles, inside papers, secret audio recordings, etc)

“http://mmamania.com/2007/09/02/ufc-quick-quote-fedor-talks-didnt-go-well/” I do believe if you goggle somemore, they offered Fedor a sick deal and Randy was pissed the sticking point was not letting Fedor do Sambo Tournaments. And How the hell would I have secret audio and inside papers..who the hell are you..what do you think I am CIA??

You probably feel that it has to happen in the UFC. Fedor is considered #1 by the world, Randy only by the USA, UFC needs to make this fight happen, Fedor doesn’t need to do sh*t…

Did you know that Randy was offered to fight Fedor in Bodog? Do you remember UFC was willing to co promote with Pride for Silva / LIddell when it was first feased up…[/quote]

this isn’t the ufc’s fault, this is fedor’s fault, he should have signed with them if he wanted to fight the best fighters…sure it would be nice for the ufc to give the fans this fight, but it would be a horrible business decision for them…if they did do this would randy be fighting as the champ? and then what if fedor wins? he gets to go back to m1 as the ufc champ? i don’t think so…

I’m not so sure Dana was saying no to M-1 so much as he was saying no to Randy. Dana is mad and is going to do anything he can to keep him down.

your both right i don’t want a monopoly, the ufc puts on alot of weak show when they do have good talent because they feel you have no other good choice i loved watching pride and ufc.the ufc gets rid of fighters for personal reasons and its bs.some people here have there head so far up the ufc’s a** that they beleave everything dana says.dana says something then the next thing you got people here saying it as if it where true.

I don’t like monopolies either, but I don’t want this sport to end up like boxing, where you have several different champs and nobody can ever find out who the real champ is.

Personally I would love to see a united MMA sport where there is only 1 fighter in each division is considered the best.

Yo John..even though my name was not on it..I opened it. Thanks like VM said..what a gift. That is basically a MMA virtual libary..I luve it. This is how Like to start a new year.

On a personal note guys I’ve been training BJJ since 01’ trained over in Brazil for a minute. ( as you know I love MMA!!!!! ) I teach on the side for my coach. I had an injury last year and that just two months I had surgery to fix it. So I’ve been going to rehab ( depressing/painful )..I don’t roll..but I still teach to keep my BJJ mind flowing..but I put on 30lbs or vanilla milkshakes..and blogging here with VM/John which I consider you two guys to be the top of the commentator food chain. You F’n know what ya’ll talking about…and with 87% of these mofo’s don’t know jack from bisping. Just wanted to give you two guys a shout out and thanks for posting here.

Awwwww, thanks alot PhilQNY. And as usual, I enjoy reading your posts as well. I was actually thinking about bringing in the new year by signing up for BJJ classes myself. Too bad I wasn’t in NY, I’d go to the same school as you. But, I live in CT.

Thanks again for the kind words, and I may not be on again before Christmas, so HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!

To everyone merry Christmax..Happy Holidays..and to all just Good MMA fights!!

Awwwww, thanks alot PhilQNY. And as usual, I enjoy reading your posts as well. I was actually thinking about bringing in the new year by signing up for BJJ classes myself. Too bad I wasn’t in NY, I’d go to the same school as you. But, I live in CT.

Thanks again for the kind words, and I may not be on again before Christmas, so HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!

Bro..whenever you’re n NYC..you can stop in and train with me
probono. My coach has probably the sweetest deal in this area. For people intrested in BJJ training in this area. $150 a month no contracts and you can train in multipale schools.

by signing with the jokers at m1 fedor dodged the coutoure fight

so the whole mess in the heavyweight division is either danas fault for offering fedor a crap contract

or fedors for listening to retarded advisors and signing with a bunch of jokers who have no other fighters

i can only assume m1 are going to be giving fedor a big chunk of the profits and a free reign over the control of the company… get fights for his team mates… fight whoever whenever he wants and also allowed to compete at other organisations

randy was unhappy with the situation so rather than face NOG or rematch big tim hes decided to sit on the sidelines and probably get a bumper paypacket at M1

fedor coutoure should be a massive event regardless of the undercard

people pay to watch boxing when the undercard is a bunch of unknowns so fedor Vs randy should be a sell out

Fedor defeats Couture in the 1st round by stunning knockout high kick followed by vicious ground and pound.

Now what?

Let’s just say this scenerio happens. The UFC’s credibility as having the best promotion, the best fighters, the greatest heavy weight champ has all gone down the toilet because Dana White allowed a co-promotion event with a virtual unknown company that has ONE major fighter under contract.

M1 will be known globally as a legit MMA league, they will have the best fighter in the world, the will get more publicity, and the cache to sign better fighters that would have otherwise signed with the UFC.

Come on people. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to see that this is a risk the UFC isnt willing to take. Dana White isn’t a freggin moron. Call him whatever, but, he’s a good business man.

I’d like to see the fight happen like everyone else, but, could you honestly do a co-promotion event and risk major fallout from a Couture loss if YOU had millions of stock invested in the UFC?

I don’t think so.

This fight will only happen if its under the UFC banner.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO really? I would have thought the UFC would have LOVED and just JUMPED at the oppertunity to do a cross promotional event.

I think this will shutup all the haters out there that are saying Fedor is scared of Randy, you know who you are!!!

I agree that it benefits UFC more to not co promote with M-1 to give them such good exposure, and seem credible as an orginization. The only problem is Randy Couture is the poster child of UFC, and when you think of UFC you can’t help but think Couture also. Once Couture does get to fight Fedor after his contract is up with UFC he will do it solely under the M-1 banner…meaning the UFC will gain nothing from the fight, but the fight will still bring M-1 the attention it wanted just as if the UFC had done the co promotion, but instead the UFC will gain nothing at all. Also, a bitter Couture will probably become M-1’s new poster child, and help the orginaztion out big time.

yes it’s a fight we all want to see forget ufc m1 pride bushido this or that 2 guys fight thats it !!!!1

Impeach Dana

I think this will shutup all the haters out there that are saying Fedor is scared of Randy, you know who you are!!!

It’s not so much he is scared of Randy, he is scared to lose.

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Happy Holidays!!!!!!

I think this will shutup all the haters out there that are saying Fedor is scared of Randy, you know who you are!!!

It’s not so much he is scared of Randy, he is scared to lose and we all know that he had a bigger chance of losing in the UFC than he would in M-1. If he would have signed with the UFC his first fight would have been Randy and not techno goliath. Yeah he will get to fight Randy and barnett but who next, everyone else is in the UFC.

I would love to see this fight as much as the next person but right now M1 is nothing and worth nothing to the ufc management.
They have one of the champions and tried to get the other, fedor didn’t want to sign,the ufc doesn’t need Fedor and sure as hell doesn’t need M-1.
Good business decision, I too can live with it as noted above.

The fans want to see that fight. At some point, you have to put that first."
No they don’t. Dana did everything he could to make this fight happen in the UFC. Fedor chose to talk tough but back down from the best competition. Now this little nothing promotion is trying to piggy-back on the top MMA organization in the world with this co-promotion crap. M-1 had to know that UFC would never do anything to raise M-1’s profile and benefit their competition. M-1 only did this to try to make Dana and UFC look like the bad gus. Fedor and M-1 had their chance and they blew it. You can’t blame Dana White for this.

I agree the UFC should not give this a second thought. Fedor had his chance and M-1 is a squirrel trying to get a nut!!!!!

There will be plenty more top rated fighters and many many more anticipated matches,,if this fight doesnt happen its not a deal breaker for MMA as a whole.

M1 may be able to make this “superfight” happen. But after that what happens? They have no one other than Fedor. I will pay M1 to see this fight but i mean, c’mon, what would the undercard be? Have fun while you last M1 and Fedor.

dana whites an idiot

dana rules

i think one of the reasons why dana isn’t going through with the co event is probably because dana is still a bit sour after the ufc failed to host the bigest mma fight in history on their own. if they only worked something out with fedor, the first time around that is. just think how much money they would have made. now that dana knows how much money he lost, he’s still holding on to a dream that he’ll be able to get him back, all to his self. but now that m1 has fador the ufc will either have to cooperate or they’ll slowly start loosing fighters and no longer hold the monopoly.

you screwed up dana, just co host the damn fight and put the fans first.

I hate to admit it, but I agree with Dana. The precedent this would set would pretty much compromise all contracts under the UFC banner. Dana could let Randy out of his contract, I prefer that he does, but I cant blame Dana for protecting all the UFC has worked for. Randy is just one part of this success.

Fucking UFC pissed me off, that shows they don’t care about the fans, but only theemselves.

I guess I can see that this will not help the UFC.

What will help the UFC however is to put out a pay-per view event every month, mediocre or not and raise the price of these events. And charge us for events that happen out of the US as well.

Thats what seems to be more important. Dana blows, those in charge of the UFC want money, hence the price raise. I work with big business types everyday, dont even think that they/Dana give two flying shits for any of the fans. We’re just wallets.

I hate to admit it, but I agree with Dana. The precedent this would set would pretty much compromise all contracts under the UFC banner. Dana could let Randy out of his contract, I prefer that he does, but I cant blame Dana for protecting all the UFC has worked for. Randy is just one part of this success.

The other factor that plays a major role, if not the main concern for Dana White and the UFC is the fact that if Randy were to lose then the UFC Heavyweight Belt would now be in the hands of M-1. How embarassing would that be? Dana has to protect the integrity of the belt and the organization, that is why all fighters that compete in the UFC sign an exclusive contract.I don’t blame him one bit.

M1 may be able to make this “superfight” happen. But after that what happens? They have no one other than Fedor. I will pay M1 to see this fight but i mean, c’mon, what would the undercard be? Have fun while you last M1 and Fedor. "

they could already have arlovski in the bag to challenge the winner. enter m-1.

Here I got it let’s boycott the ufc for 1 ppv until they give us the fight we want to see.Hit em where it hurts

I’ll pass.

I’m not so sure Dana was saying no to M-1 so much as he was saying no to Randy. Dana is mad and is going to do anything he can to keep him down.

if i owned 10% of the UFC i’d sure as heck tell M-1 to go f*ck off. M1&UFC copromotion ONLY benefits M1 froma business standpoint.

adios, M-1. don’t need ya!

Randy will be like 63 years old when this fight happens, and will still win. It will happen at the UFC 200 Anniversary. Waiting sucks.

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It is a really interesting site that I suggest you take a look at when u get the chance if you aren’t familiar with it already.

That goes to show you Dana doesn’t give a shit about the fans he is to proud to host another orginization to set up the biggest fight of the decade. He should see this as a chance to make some money but instead Randy’s contract will expire and he won’t make shit off of this fight. What a dumbass.

the UFC is looking 5yrs-10yrs down the track.

they’ve got MORE to lose co-promoting this fight.

LOL, wow, my post got BUTCHERED.

The fans want to see that fight. At some point, you have to put that first."
No they don’t. Dana did everything he could to make this fight happen in the UFC. Fedor chose to talk tough but back down from the best competition. Now this little nothing promotion is trying to piggy-back on the top MMA organization in the world with this co-promotion crap. M-1 had to know that UFC would never do anything to raise M-1’s profile and benefit their competition. M-1 only did this to try to make Dana and UFC look like the bad gus. Fedor and M-1 had their chance and they blew it. You can’t blame Dana White for this.
Agreed. I dont need to see this fight.

I agree ,but I do need to see this fight.

I hope this will make everyone who was saying that Fedor was ducking Randy shut up. I can’t blame Dana, but it is obvious that for him and Zuffa it is more about the money than the love of the sport or giving the fans what they want. Dana is a shrewed businessman and it is hard to hold this decision against him. I just hope all the Fedor haters will shut up already. Let’s list the facts:
Randy wants the fight.
M-1 wants the fight.
Fedor wants the fight.
Zuffa doesn’t give a crap, unless they can have complete ownership of Fedor.

It means nothing that Fedor said, he wants to fight Randy under these circumstances, because we all know dam well that Dana would NEVER go for it (Fedor included). If Fedor wanted the fight, all he had to do was sign the dotted line, just like EVERY other fighter does ,without making OUTRAGEOUS demands (again knowing dam well that Dana wouldn’t go for it).

Linx I completely agree with your comment. Monopoly’s are never good for consumers. We need M-1 to grow enough to compete with the UFC, if not Dana will become more an more of the dictator of mma, and that is a terrible thing for fans of the sport and its fighters.

Hey Linx, what did you think of that website I gave u the other day?

hey, nice site, I watched a couple of fights already. It’s good because we don’t need to search for the fights :p

No suprises here.

Too bigger risk for UFC if (when) Randy looses it would be devistating. The whole world would have to take note that the best fighter is not in the UFC.

Just notice how many ferakin responses randy and fedor always get
GET IT UFC ???

THis fight will happen its a matter if the ufc wants any say if not screw them cuz us the fans want it thats it period.
HEY? But what do i know, i’m just an mma fan.
(I wouldn’t f over andrei a. either or on and on …….)

what a joke. the greedy bastards wont let it happen… this is exactly why a fighter should be UFC pres… Dana and the Fertitta bros got the UFC this far but now theyre screwing over the sport of MMA.

Ridiculous.

Oh well, Randy’s contract will expire and he will fight Fedor within the next year and a half.

Here is the deal:

UFC cannot let this fight happen, because a new organization “M1” would have their fighter dedeat the current UFC champion. For the average fan, they may think the UFC doesn’t have the best figthers and start looking at M1 etc. This also gives M1 an opportunity to propel their business to new heights which Dana absolutely doesn’t want to happen. From a business perspective I can understand why Dana wouldn’t want this fight, however from a fan’s perspective it sucks!

Here is the deal:

UFC cannot let this fight happen, because a new organization “M1” would have their fighter dedeat the current UFC champion. For the average fan, they may think the UFC doesn’t have the best figthers and start looking at M1 etc. This also gives M1 an opportunity to propel their business to new heights which Dana absolutely doesn’t want to happen. From a business perspective I can understand why Dana wouldn’t want this fight, however from a fan’s perspective it sucks!

well chris … did u not c matt lindland fight him fedor had 2 cheat 2 win. and he is a middlewieght fighter in the ufc. so what u said it won’t help the ufc u got 2 b kidding. it will really help the ufc because when randy wins this fight they can say that they got the best fighers. because nick diaz beat gomi. and diaz couldn’t beat any of the top welterwieghts in the ufc. so all that is left is fedor. UFC cut a damn deal with M-1 but make sure it is not a M-1 ref because if it is they will let fedor cheat 2 win

yes jim…we all saw what you posted earlier about fedor cheating to beat lindland. and yes, he did cheat (i’ve seen it). but if you’re going to try and make somebody look stupid, please do it properly. lindland doesn’t fight with the ufc anymore, hasn’t for a long time. if you want to say hes in any organization it would be the IFL. and chris and everyone else are exactly right, this fight makes NO sense for the UFC from a business perspective. think about it jim. to quote you “lay off the crack”

well chris … did u not c matt lindland fight him fedor had 2 cheat 2 win. and he is a middlewieght fighter in the ufc. so what u said it won’t help the ufc u got 2 b kidding. it will really help the ufc because when randy wins this fight they can say that they got the best fighers. because nick diaz beat gomi. and diaz couldn’t beat any of the top welterwieghts in the ufc. so all that is left is fedor. UFC cut a damn deal with M-1 but make sure it is not a M-1 ref because if it is they will let fedor cheat 2 win

how the heck does that help the UFC? the UFC only cares about THE BOTTOMLINE. this will not help their LONG-TERM BOTTOMLINE. but this setup, contrary to what you just stated will in fact cut into their future earnings and growth if they co-promote this fight and tarnish the UFC brand they’ve built over the years. it’ll screw over all current contracts…and before you know it all their fighters will be dispersed. that’s the last thing they want.

Fedor vs. Randy ain’t worth it.

RIP M-1.

EXACTLY. Competition in sports is only good when it’s all under the same roof. The reason we know the best teams and players in the major sports is because they all play in the same league, and if they don’t they sure as hell want to. Nobody grows up wanting to play arena football, they want to play in the NFL. When the NFL hold an exhibition game with the Super Bowl champs playing the winner of the NCAA national title, then maybe there is an argument as to why this fight should happen. But until then (which would be right around the time hell freezes over) people whining about UFC not “giving the fans what they want” can cry about it, because at this point I sure as hell don’t want it anymore.

Randy isn’t the champ anymore, he gave it up. Fedor is playing in the minor leagues. I can see the headline for the PPV now: Wash-Up vs. Wash-Up. At least when the UFC wanted to cross promote with Pride, one could argue Pride was a major league. M-1 is a joke at this point, and will continue to be a joke when the main event has “the best fighter in the world” fighting a huge Korean guy that doesn’t stop growing and a record of a whopping 1-0 in MMA.

If MMA is going to become an accepted mainstream sport, there has to be one (and only one) major league (or promotion in this case). If it isn’t going to be the UFC, as an MMA fan I’d be very worried. To truly put the fans first, you have to do what’s good for the sport overall, especially considering this is a growing sport. Cross promoting with some 2-bit startup promotion is not good for the UFC, and you all can disagree as much as you want with what I’m about to say: What is not good for the UFC is not good for MMA. And inversely, what is good for the UFC is good for MMA. Randy vs. Fedor as a cross promotion is not good for the UFC, and that’s that.

Dana White is that you?

God I hope this fight happens. Just to smite the big guys, and motivate them never to let something big go, ever again.

You know what? I am watching video of Hong Man Choi and he is not super terrible. He’s not just another Giant Silva…There is some K-1 fights online and I am watching him hang in there with Jerome LeBanner…

You know what? I am watching video of Hong Man Choi and he is not super terrible. He’s not just another Giant Silva…There is some K-1 fights online and I am watching him hang in there with Jerome LeBanner…

boy o boy im impressed with him hanging with lebanner,,,,,man these guys are BUMS….including fedor they [mm1] are a bunch of bums why do you think fedor signed there? it was only to keep his record from getting blotched…he is a freaking BUM…BUM..i cant say it enough!

Dana white wants to make all the money so he can keep most of it and pay his fighters crap. Randy dosn’t want to fight Fedor because he already has a bad track record against heavyweights. yeah ‘napo’ was a legit heavyweight and I feel that that fight was stoped early and Tim sylvia is just a big body, not a well rounded mma fighter. Fedor is a great MMA fighter top mma heavyweight in the world. Randy would make it a great fight but will fall short. Dana dosent want fedor in the UFC because he feels that fedor will dominate like he did in PRIDE, who’s gonna beat fedor, brock lesnar, NO!

This is some crazyness either way. The two guys that need to be fighting for the opening as Heavyweight champ is Jake O’Brien and Kimbo Slice. Jake O’Brien just told zig@TotalSportsTalk.com that he could beat Kimbo Slice up now and when Kimbo Slice becomes a better fighter.