Dudes lucky he won he got his ass kicked the first 2 rounds badly, the better fighter lost that evening.

yeh he was definitely rocked, another minute and it would have been all over

The first round was incredibly close and you could even give it to huerta for the multiple close sub attempts and illegal knee. The second round was still competitive with Guida deservingly getting it, and the third round was a complete beatdown with Huerta just kicking Guida’s ass.

I was impressed with clay and thought he was robbed with one of his recent fights, forgot the fighters name though, horrible decision in my book. Poor clay, he may have thought he had it in the bag but it not over till its over. Like Koscheck vs Fickett, Koskech totally owned fickett the entire fight save the last 30 seconds, then gets caught and loses, it sucks but thats just the way it goes some times.

I agree with Nathan the better fighter lost last night.I’m waiting for a rematch!!!!

Dudes lucky he won he got his ass kicked the first 2 rounds badly, the better fighter lost that evening.

Huerta got rocked by that shot, no doubt. But if you think he was getting his ass kicked, you are crazy. He was landing heavier and more frequent shots standing in the exchanges. That was the point Guida would shoot for the take-downs. Guida was obviously ahead on the cards based on superior positioning on the ground. It was a great back and forth battle between these two.

I just hate how things are scored. If a fighter is going to get credit for a takedown then the opposing fighter needs to get equal credit for reversing position, which Huerta did. It is a disservice to the fighters really. Because it seemed the fight was much closer than those judges had it on the scorecards.

Fantastic performance by both fighters, though. It is a shame either guy had to lose and can’t wait to see how this shakes up the rankings.

Awesome fight!! Best of Fight of the year!!

yeh he was definitely rocked, another minute and it would have been all over

Well Hey thats mixed martial arts, But if you watch that fight, other than that lucky punch gudia landed in the second, every time gudia took Huerta down, he could do an damage. Plus standing up Gudia got his ass beat. I counted eight high kicks.
Huerta in all honesty showed that HE WAS THE BETTER FIGHTER!
But it does suck that Gudia had to lose with what i thought was his best performance in the UFC to date

Fight of the Year! I wish they could both get a title shot.

No one can call Huerta “a cover boy” anymore. He earned his stripes big time. Huerta will now be leading the UFC’s move into the Mexican market.

20 -17 is bs. Guida might have oone the first two rounds but huerta was landing the whole fight.

Dudes lucky he won he got his ass kicked the first 2 rounds badly, the better fighter lost that evening.

He was losing the fight, but he wasn’t getting his ass kicked. Even if Roger didn’t finish Clay, he could’ve still won the fight. Remember, Clay got docked a point for an illegal knee to the head.

Huerta came out for revenge in the 3rd round! WAR Huerta, clearly one of the most exciting fighters in the ufc

Dudes lucky he won he got his ass kicked the first 2 rounds badly, the better fighter lost that evening.

Dang bro what fight were you watching! Clearly you rooting for clay. Huerta won round one, clay dominated round two but it was still really competitive, huerta was caught late when he fell defending the takedown but e was getting the better of the exchanges. Then Huerta destroyed him in round 3.

Fight of the Year without a doubt!!

Dudes lucky he won he got his ass kicked the first 2 rounds badly, the better fighter lost that evening.

Take a look and see who got their hand raised at the end!

1st round: Could have gone either way

2nd round: Guida

3rd round: Huerta by a beatdown

And Huerta got his ass kicked the whole time?

Everyone wants to keeps saying,“poor pitiful Clay. He has been robbed of decisions, he was the better fighter but lost, blah, blah, blah.” Teach Clay how to finish and he wont have to go to the judges. Teach Clay to finish a fighter that said he was KO’ed for a minute and he might not get rocked, beaten and submitted the next round!

20 -17 is bs. Guida might have oone the first two rounds but huerta was landing the whole fight.

wow did someone actually say this was a legit comment? cause i must have missed it during the fight (or after) cause it was definitly closer than that
also huerta really showed true heart, composure, and in my opinion championship materia (not that i think he deserves a title shot without fighting one more person) but i’d really like to see a ufc lightweight ranking cause there are so many good fighters. and i’m pissed that so many of the best in the world rankings suck, i mean come on gomi still #1 he’s fought once in 2007 and lost (yeah yeah NC sure…).
but going back i ahve in somewhat of an order, but not really……(sherk and franca aren’t there cause of the roids)
Penn
stevenson
kenflo
huerta
edgar
griffin
guida
fisher
and look for stout to start making an impact (personal opinion)
and of course Allen Berube

clay was gassed, you could see it at the end of the 2nd. roger had better conditioning, all clay could do was take roger down but had no finishing moves, look how many times roger gave his back up. clay is a wild man with energy while roger is calm and collected waiting for the finishing move, thats why he is the better fighter. class acts both of them!

Although I do think Roger Huerta is a great fighter, this was his first win against a good opponent. All of Huerta’s previous fights were against “NO NAME” fighters. I am far more impressed with Clay Guida’s fights in the UFC because they were against good fighters. Roger Huerta has to fight people like Kenny Florian, Joe Stevenson or some one of top caliber to get a title shot.

LOL @ the better fighter losing.

The better fighter got kicked in the face and body so much that he didn’t want to bang anymore.

The better fighter saw the hunger and Mexican fighting spirit, that can only be bred by a lifetime of hardship, in the eyes of the inferior fighter and got shook.

Then the better fighter charged in for a takedown and got kneed in the face.

Then the inferior fighter took charge and immediately went for the finish, something the “better fighter” tried but couldn’t do a round before.

i still see some haters up the top man….do you want kenlo to die too?? how many more fighter must huerta defeat before you give himt he props he deserves? its not like he avoided the big names…cuz all the big name wanted the other big names for a spot that bj and stevenson go with less fights and much more less names…i think guida or kenflo or griffin or huerta should be fighting each other to the vacant light wieght title now intead of bj whos coming off two losses on a row and a win over a jens past his prime…and i kknow stevenson beating kurt in 3 round fight is not enough to get him where he is now. like i said kenflo or guida or griffin or huerta.

uhm nate diaz vs mac danzig in 08’ guys hmm?

Agree with PJJ, in wrestling and sub-grappling, you get points for escaping as well as getting takedowns. Roger has world-class scrambling ability and Octagon awareness.

Although I do think Roger Huerta is a great fighter, this was his first win against a good opponent. All of Huerta’s previous fights were against “NO NAME” fighters. I am far more impressed with Clay Guida’s fights in the UFC because they were against good fighters. Roger Huerta has to fight people like Kenny Florian, Joe Stevenson or some one of top caliber to get a title shot.

What is wrong with this saying?

I am more impressed with someone losing, constantly, than someone winning, constantly. Interesting stuff.

Basically you would also say that you were really impressed with the French fighting forces of WWI and WWII compared to the U.S.’s and Englands.

Dudes lucky he won he got his ass kicked the first 2 rounds badly, the better fighter lost that evening.

1st round: Could have gone either way

2nd round: Guida by a good margin

3rd round: Huerta by a beatdown

And Huerta got his butt kicked the whole time?

Everyone wants to keeps saying,“poor pitiful Clay. He has been robbed of decisions, he was the better fighter but lost, blah, blah, blah.” Teach Clay how to finish and he wont have to go to the judges. Teach Clay to finish a fighter that said he was KO’ed for a minute and he might not get rocked, beaten and submitted the next round!

Dudes lucky he won he got his ass kicked the first 2 rounds badly, the better fighter lost that evening.

It’s a 3 round fight not 2! You must have missed round 3 when Huerta came out and was throwing and landing bombs and leg kicks and knees that dropped Guida. He then finished Guida with a rear naked choke, that’s not luck buddy that’s skill.
Your quote is off, it should read,“The better fighter won and the fighter that was ahead on the scorecard lost.”

What is wrong with this saying?

I am more impressed with someone losing, constantly, than someone winning, constantly. Interesting stuff.

Basically you would also say that you were really impressed with the French fighting forces of WWI and WWII compared to the U.S.’s and Englands.

Great comment Muto!

What is wrong with this saying?

I am more impressed with someone losing, constantly, than someone winning, constantly. Interesting stuff.

Basically you would also say that you were really impressed with the French fighting forces of WWI and WWII compared to the U.S.’s and Englands.

This is what I’m saying: I am more impressed with a fighter who fights mid-to-top ranked fighters and loses(NOT GET HIS A$$ KICKED) but loses by decision, rather than someone who constantly gets fed “cupcake” fights. I’m not saying that Roger Huerta is not a great fighter, but I want to see him fight guys like KENFLO or Joe Stevenson. I still think he needs to fight one of the guys I mentioned to earn a title fight.
This is the best example I can come up with: Would you give a fighter a title-shot after beating five “NO NAME or Crudentials” or respect a guy who fought guys like Din Thomas, Marcus Aurelio, Tyson Griffin, etc.
LASTLY Roger Huerta defeated Clay Guida fair in square, BUT HE NEEDS TO FIGHT SOMEONE OF A HIGHER CALIBER TO EARN A TITLE SHOT.

Lets not make any mistake about Huerta’s opposition; two of those fighters were late replacements for others that got injured while training. Can’t think of who they were off the top of my head, but they were “better” names than what he eventually fought. He can only fight who is in front of him.

And I do agree that he needs another 2 fights to, I say prepare and you say earn, a title shot. Regardless of the reason, we do agree that he needs a couple more. I think he beats Joe Stevenson now, but loses to BJ and Florian (at this time).

How did the better fighter lose? God I hate when people say that. Someone won on that evening, his hand raised. So the better better fighter won.

Getting rocked and coming back from the brink show heart, courage and the professionalism of a true fighter.

Congratulations Roger, win well deserved.

I agree with Nathan the better fighter lost last night.I’m waiting for a rematch!!!!

 My brother wrestled with Roger in high scholl here in Austin. I could tell y’all some crazy stories about roger fighting but that’s his busines.As far as I know, Roger made it to state in wrestling but didn’t win it, so he doesn’t have that same pedigree. Wrestling is what got him into mma, though. He has really come a long way from just being a wrestler. He is really well rounded and every time you see him he’s a little better than before. Some people who get into mma after wrestling and that’s what they really stick with and utilize. People like Guida, HUghes and Edgar. In my opinion pure wreslters make boring fights. Matt hughes in particular. I still really thought Roger was just gonna be a poster boy for Latino mma and maybe a lightweight gatekeeper. I agree that if Guida’s punch had landed earlier in round 2 he might have one that fight. But it didn’t. After that Huerta came out and did what seemingly “better” fighters like Griffin and Aurelio weren’t able to do, he choked out Guida. This should cement roger as a legitimate contender. I still think he should fight one more person first. Maybe Ken Flo or Nate Diaz. I lost all my mma playground money on that one.

He was losing the fight, but he wasn’t getting his ass kicked. Even if Roger didn’t finish Clay, he could’ve still won the fight. Remember, Clay got docked a point for an illegal knee to the head.

It was a warning..not a point dicussion.

Winner gets Florian? Man, I love these fighters. Balls out all the way, Guida should get to avenge the Griffen loss.

The Takedown scoring really really needs to be looked at. I cant possibly understand how one of the judges had it 20 – 17. That is just rediculous.

i never saw a point docked it was a warning watch it again
plus guida with the takedowns definetly won 1 and 2

The Takedown scoring really really needs to be looked at. I cant possibly understand how one of the judges had it 20 – 17. That is just rediculous.

MMA judging is a whole ’nother issue…

The Takedown scoring really really needs to be looked at. I cant possibly understand how one of the judges had it 20 – 17. That is just rediculous.

I don’t know what you guys were watching, but Guida most certainly won round one and two. A take down is considered ring control and Huerta was taken down too many times to count. A high kick that is blocked by guida’s forearm doesn’t score points so stop counting them. I feel bad for Guida because IMO opinion he outclassed Huerta up until the third. Don’t get me wrong Huerta won fair and square, but the better fighter didn’t win that fight, Congrats to Huerta!
Outstanding fight and tremendous heart shown by both.

it was a great fight

huerta showed the heart of a champion when he was rocked in the second round

to cling on then come out and blast guida away is amazing

perhaps now all the tards who said huerta had never faced a tough opponent and that guida was going to tear him apart can stfu

perhaps now all the tards who said huerta had never faced a tough opponent and that guida was going to tear him apart can stfu

In all honesty Huerta hadn’t faced a legit opponent in the ufc, just newcomers. That is why this fight was so anticipated, to see where he stands. Turns out he is ready to hang with the top guys. Just don’t try to say the criticism was unfounded, because it wasn’t

I’m hoping to see Florian vs Huerta now. Or maybe Edgar

Loved the look in Huerta’s eyes at the start of the third. He was on a mission. He knew what he had to do and did it.

I was rooting for Clay. I love his balls to the wall style. all out and nothing less. He keeps fights so high paced that it is something that other fighters can’t handle sometimes. i feel that he got robbed by Griffin. I have yet to see a boring Guida fight. Hopefully Dana and the boys have him back to fight because i love to watch this guy. But huerta caught him and thats the way the fight ended.

clay was gassed, you could see it at the end of the 2nd.

There was no way that Clay was gassed. Clay’s conditioning in every fight is off the charts. So this quote is bullshit to me.

Dudes lucky he won he got his ass kicked the first 2 rounds badly, the better fighter lost that evening.

It’s not like he closed his eyes and threw a lucky KO punch. It was a close fight for two rounds, then in the third Huerta used his superior conditioning to beat Guida down with heavy punches and kicks, stuffed all his takedown attempts, then took his back and choked him out. If that’s not a better fight I’d love to know what is.

Talk about getting away with your life. Rematch should be mandatory!

Huerta proves the haters wrong and yet they find something else to hate about but when it comes down to it THE BETTER FIGHTER won that night. He could have knocked guida out in the first and people were still going to hate. Huerta proved he has the tools to hang with the top dogs in the sport. But lets face it if someday Huerta is champ people will still be doubting him and saying he aint champ material.

It’s not like he closed his eyes and threw a lucky KO punch. It was a close fight for two rounds, then in the third Huerta used his superior conditioning to beat Guida down with heavy punches and kicks, stuffed all his takedown attempts, then took his back and choked him out. If that’s not a better fight I’d love to know what is.

First off i gotta disagree with this response. for one it wasn’t his superior conditioning that got him the win. Clay did not gas out at all. Huerta caught him with a knee when Guida was going for the takedown which stunned him. Conditioning had nothing to do with it. He was rocked. After that knee his takedown attempts were not exactly sharp due to being rocked. Why does everyone think Clay gassed out? I saw no evidence of that.

So glad Huerta won. I dont really like guida that much. He cant finish good opponents and IMO his last fight with Aurelio was a snoozefest except for the knockdown. All people saying the better fighter didnt win are wrong, Guida did get much more takedown, but Huerta was landing much more shots. Not only that but watch the fight again and you’ll see that Guida gassed. Huerta didnt, took advantage, and finished the fight. Hes got the heart of a lion.

Huerta proves the haters wrong and yet they find something else to hate about but when it comes down to it THE BETTER FIGHTER won that night. He could have knocked guida out in the first and people were still going to hate. Huerta proved he has the tools to hang with the top dogs in the sport. But lets face it if someday Huerta is champ people will still be doubting him and saying he aint champ material.

What Huerta proved that night is that he will not be able to hang with the top tier fighters, Guida was right at the limits of what Roger can handle.

Dudes lucky he won he got his ass kicked the first 2 rounds badly, the better fighter lost that evening.

If Huerta is so damn proud of his Mexican heritage he needs to take his flag & his ass back to Mexico. How dare he disrespect the United States by placing a US Flag on his ass for the world to see.

At least have the common courtesey like Tito Ortiz does & fly the US Flag.

Go back to Mexico Huerta.

USMC VET

I cant remember a fight hyped up to be a great fight and it actually meets the expectations and more great main event reminded me of parisyan sanchez worthy of second best fight of 2007 behind gomi vs diaz

I cant remember a fight hyped up to be a great fight and it actually meets the expectations and more great main event reminded me of parisyan sanchez worthy of second best fight of 2007 behind gomi vs diaz

Yeah def., that fight was awsome, mostly in part to Guida in my opinion. However good or better than Roger I believe Guida to be though, I consider him to be one of the three most exciting, always puts it on the line fighters, that is really good, but lacks the real essential ability to be able to finsish his opponents, him, Tyson Griffin, and Frankie Edgar, are all really really good, but because they lack this ability to finish there top tier opponents, even though they can hang no problem, I blieve a title shot will always be JUST out of there reach. Unfortunate.

Huerta just earned all my respect… to come from behind, against Clay Guida… Huerta VS winner Penn/Stevenson…done.

Huerta just earned all my respect… to come from behind, against Clay Guida… Huerta VS winner Penn/Stevenson…done.

haha outrageous, one win over finally a better than “debut” oponent, and wanna give him a title shot? Huerta could BARELY hang with Guida and still make it a fight. I think we just found where the limits of Huerta lie, title shot? I think not.

What Huerta proved that night is that he will not be able to hang with the top tier fighters, Guida was right at the limits of what Roger can handle.

I agree. But Huerta is young and can improve. He needs to improve to be a title contender. If he can polish his wrestling, he’ll be fine.

If Huerta is so damn proud of his Mexican heritage he needs to take his flag & his ass back to Mexico. How dare he disrespect the United States by placing a US Flag on his ass for the world to see.

At least have the common courtesey like Tito Ortiz does & fly the US Flag.

Go back to Mexico Huerta.

USMC VET

Private Pyle checking in…thanks for the contribution…

I just hate how things are scored. If a fighter is going to get credit for a takedown then the opposing fighter needs to get equal credit for reversing position, which Huerta did. It is a disservice to the fighters really. Because it seemed the fight was much closer than those judges had it on the scorecards.

haha outrageous, one win over finally a better than “debut” oponent, and wanna give him a title shot? Huerta could BARELY hang with Guida and still make it a fight. I think we just found where the limits of Huerta lie, title shot? I think not.

Huerta doesn’t deserve a title shot….yet. Although for the sake of ratings it may happen.

I agree. But Huerta is young and can improve. He needs to improve to be a title contender. If he can polish his wrestling, he’ll be fine.

how bad is Clay’s record in the UFC? 2-3. i don’t care about the close decision loss to Tyson Griffin, i saw Tyson winning that fight anyway. Look at Rogers face right before the third round started, you can tell he wasn’t going to let that guy do another thing to him. That round was over before it started. Roger needs to lose for me to think that somebody like Clay is better than him.
Sure, he lost the first two rounds… but rocky did in some of his fights as well. Clay can go back to the gym now and comb his hair all day.

i dont know about you guys but i kinda doubted huerta at the end of the 2nd not only bcuz of the way the fight was going but, bcuz guida is in awesome fighter too and i like him alot but, after seeing huertas face before the 3rd round started i would of bet my house, car, family and life that he was going to win, no doubt in my mind he had never looked that furious and focused in my life all the opponents he had before where practice for this spectacular fight but, huerta stepped up and weathered the storm and then imposed his will and finished the fight, Roger is well deserving of a title shot, fuck that puss Florian i hate his ass he is so arrogant and he totally would of lost that fight with din thomas if he wouldnt of blown his knee out, he should rematch din before he starts calling out any top contenders in the lightweight division i think guida would fuvk florian up, and huerta no doubt but, florian is not desrving of such opponent

First off i gotta disagree with this response. for one it wasn’t his superior conditioning that got him the win. Clay did not gas out at all. Huerta caught him with a knee when Guida was going for the takedown which stunned him. Conditioning had nothing to do with it. He was rocked. After that knee his takedown attempts were not exactly sharp due to being rocked. Why does everyone think Clay gassed out? I saw no evidence of that.

To all the haters that are jealous of a great fighter who happens to be blessed with a pretty boy face… GET OFF ALREADY!!! MMA is full of unexpected endings- that’s why it’s exciting. No body likes a fight that ends with a decision. Decisions are never agreed upon and are always controversial. They both had hits and misses. They both had ugly faces at the end. Roger won because he was determined to win and it was obvious he came back a different fighter in round three. Even Clay said in an interview after the fight that he thinks Huerta deserved to win because he’s got heart to bounce back like he did. THAT’s another reason why this sport is so great. Heart and respect.
So to the posters who said Roger’s “lucky” to have won… so I suppose if YOU were in that ring, it could have been YOU that choked out Clay because it required no special skills, just luck, right??? whatever meds you are on, get off of them. A mind’s a horrible thing to waste.
Huerta has a heart of a lion and fights like it’s his last fight every time whether you think his opponents have been poor match ups or not, they weren’t layed down fights like that Mac and Tommy fight. Go back and watch some of the Tim Silvia fights … ho hummmm.. boring… no one broke a sweat- Not to pick on some of the old top dogs but even some of BJ Penn’s fights looked less than exciting…Huerta and the Carpenter gave us a HUGE electrifying fight that truly was an MMA fight- not a boxing fight, not a wresting match, not a kick boxing match, not a jujitsu fight but all of the above!!! and all at furious steady pace. The spin into choke submission my Huerta was poetry in motion. THAT was no luck!!!

Insane fight. Guida is always in these crazy fights. For anyone that says it was pretty even I disagree. Clay was like a rapid dog all over Huerta for rounds 1 and 2. I still can’t believe he lost. Fair play to Roger though. You could see it on his face throughout the fight. He was getting really frustrated but he turned it around somehow. I hope he gets his titleshot.

Guida has dropped a few he really shouldn’t have. I really hope we get to see him fight Roger again sometime. Hopefully it will be a trilogy. Oh yeah and Griffin.

Maybe he should get Thiago Tavares next. I know he’d like to get back in there pretty soon. What do you think?

Guida KILLED Huerta in the first 2 rounds….hence 20-17. Anyone trying to say it was a close fight has no clue how to score UFC fights

Guida had takedowns, octagon control, effective striking….everything.

I give Huerta props, that guy has heart

Private Pyle checking in…thanks for the contribution…

LOL!!!!!!!! I almost peed myself I’m laughing so hard!!

Anyway, I am a Minneapolis girl, and Huerta is most welcome here! I love the Hispanic community here, they are awesome! Go Huerta!

haha outrageous, one win over finally a better than “debut” oponent, and wanna give him a title shot? Huerta could BARELY hang with Guida and still make it a fight. I think we just found where the limits of Huerta lie, title shot? I think not.

I guess Gilbert Melendez, Din Thomas, Tyson Griffin, and Marcus Aurelio are also at their apex of mma ability too. Because they either got beat or had a very “close” controversial decision win over Guida.

I can not see how clay can fight with his hair hanging in his eyes like that. How can he see anything he needs to cut that shit off or pull it back while he fights or something.

If Huerta is so damn proud of his Mexican heritage he needs to take his flag & his ass back to Mexico. How dare he disrespect the United States by placing a US Flag on his ass for the world to see.

At least have the common courtesey like Tito Ortiz does & fly the US Flag.

Go back to Mexico Huerta.

USMC VET

I always wonder why a guy born in LA and fighting out of Minnesota would carry a foreign flag. Kind of annoys me too.

Forget steroids, the commission needs to draw some blood and do a work up for PCP/ chrystal-meth in Guida. He is friggin something else. He was oblivious to some big shots like a criminal sherming and taking on a bunch of cops or something.

What an great fight!

i honestly dont get why anyones arguing this fight..it ended within 15 minutes with an obvious tap and winner..it doesnt matter how the fight was going up until then..but it was back and forth, nobody was dominating and it definately should be fight of the year unless something crazy happens in the next ppv…i will watch both fighters anytime they are on a card…Huerta is all heart, and if that didnt shut his critics up, nothing will

I could see during the pre-fight announcements that Huerta wasn’t really prepaired for this fight, mentally. It’s like he beleived the hype, and expected to be able to walk right through Guida. But the real Huerta showed up at the start of the third round, and you could see in his eyes, he knew Guida was no pushover and would have to be a little more aggressive than he was in the first and second.

That’s what I like about him, and Fitch. Check out Huerta’s fight with Doug Evans, and Fitch’s fight with Carneiro. Both found themselves in bad spots in the first round, but came out with that fire in there eyes ready for the next round. It took Huerta a little longer this time, but he came out for the third round with that determination and turned it up a notch, and pulled out the finish.

Putrefaction — Great point; He’s an animal.

That was a great fight. I had picked Huerta to win by decision in UFCFantasy, and thought I was going to be wrong after the first two rounds. However, Huerta came out like a lion in round 3 (did you see his face?). Still, I sure was wrong how the fight was going to end. Awesome!

haha outrageous, one win over finally a better than “debut” oponent, and wanna give him a title shot? Huerta could BARELY hang with Guida and still make it a fight. I think we just found where the limits of Huerta lie, title shot? I think not.

I’m with you Anomaly. Huerta just squeeked by Guida, who is now 2-3 in the UFC. All of Guida’s fight’s were against tougher opponents than Heurta’s toughtes opponent to date. This win cements Huerta in the Top 10. There is no way that Roger is even Top 5 right now. So a title shot??? NOBODY in the LW division will get a title show without defeating Kenny Florian – that, to me, is a fact

Funny. I specifically remember Clay having a totally crazy look on his face at the start of round 3. Roger did look about as serious as cancer tho.
If you are trying to get someone interested into MMA this is the fight to show them. Roger got the win but Clay gets my respect.
total madman.

wow.

what a division.

Bj Penn
Joe Stevenson
Ken-Flo
Din Thomas
Tyson Griffen
Frankie Edgar
Nate Diaz
Mac Danzig
Roger Huerta
Gray Maynard
J-Lau
Cole Miller
the Roided shrk Sherk
and more…

Does it disturb you that blacks have pride in their African heritage?

Does it disturb you that blacks have pride in their African heritage?

???? – its random man!!

on a side note if any time an athlete had a determined look on his face it meant something, there would be alot of different outcomes in sports. if huerta went on to lose no one would be mentioning the look on his face.

I love it when folks say the “better” fighter lost…lol…seriously…that cracks me up. If I’m not mistaken they raised Roger’s hand at the end because he came out focused in the third round and made Clays face turn a few shades of purple following a brutal knee. You could see it in Rogers face before the third round opening bell. He was ready to steam roll Clay and he did. The better fighter finds a way to win and Roger did.

I love it when folks say the “better” fighter lost…lol…seriously…that cracks me up. If I’m not mistaken they raised Roger’s hand at the end because he came out focused in the third round and made Clays face turn a few shades of purple following a brutal knee. You could see it in Rogers face before the third round opening bell. He was ready to steam roll Clay and he did. The better fighter finds a way to win and Roger did.

oh ok so what you saying is that roger wasn’t focused in rounds 1 and 2? oh and here i thought he just got beat in those two rounds by the better fighter…. by your way of thinking Buster Douglas was a better fighter than Mike Tyson.
I think not….

I expected some doubters to remain after the fight, but geeze. Roger beat Clay, what else do you want? It wasn’t a decision, it was a brutal set of knees to set up the choke. If Guida had done that, nobody would question he was the better fighter. I depise the phrase, but it is appropriate; some people are just “haters”; no matter what Roger will do, some people will detract from his accomplishements. So what if Clay won the first 2 rounds? It is a three round fight. Plain and simple, he got beat. It wasn’t a “lucky strike”. Luck is where opportunity and preparation meet. Clay threw a great knockdown punch, but wasn’t able to finish. Roger did. In my mind that is the better fighter, the one who does what it takes to finish the fight and win.
I wish more Guida fans would be like VM (props Mikey) and be able to say, great fight. BTW Mike, I do agree with you, Huerta needs at least 1-2 more wins against the top of the 55ers heap before getting the title shot. He is great, but needs to pay the dues, and get in line like everyone else

i don’t think ive seen one person say that huerta sucks after this fight. where are all these “haters”?? i think huerta is a good fighter, but i think if he fought guida 10 times he would lose 7 of them. huerta has a very bright future ahead of him, i just believe he needs to make a few more rounds with some top ten talent to tighten up his game a bit before getting a title shot. just because an SI photgrapher snapped his shot doesn’t anoint him as champion. if this is hating then i guess thats nut huggin-lol

No matter how you look at it, Huerta did not win round one. Clay did. (The initial comment wasn’t mine, just jumping into the conversation). Two judges had it 20-18 for Clay, and the third had it 20-17 for Clay. So, I must ask, what fight were you watching? Guida was winning that fights, hands down, after two rounds. All he had to do was not get KO’d or submitted in the 3rd and he would have won. I was rooting for Guida, and will always root for Guida, but I, like most, have a new found respect for El Matador. He displayed tremendous heart and a never say die attitude. He got beaten in Round 1 by Doug Evans, and then he came out with fire in his eyes for Round 2. In the fight with Clay, it took until the 3rd round for him to get that fire in his eyes. I am not making this up either – when they showed the two fighters standing, ready for round 3 to begin, they showed Clay, then they showed Roger. Roger had this "look’ in his eyes, actually in his whole face – just beaming confidence. If you taped it, take a look.

I agree with you VM, Clay not only won the first two rounds, he dominated, and Roger knew it! Clay was getting the takedowns, and out wrestling Roger, and doing a lot of damage from the guard (did you see Rogers face after the fight, Guida hardly has a mark, but Roger sure did). Roger had the superior standup but Clay just would not let him use it.

The second round was all Clay, I do not see a case for a 10-8 round as one of the judges had it, since Roger (despite being dominated) was still hanging in there even after getting knocked out for a second in the last minute (nice recovery!).

I did see that look in Huerta’s eyes at the beginning of the Third, very determined, he knew he was behind. But did you see Clay!! He had this scary I’m a caveman from hell look, he had the eyes of a serial killer!

For those who say that Clay gassed in the third they need to watch the fight again. Huerta timed his takedown and landed a perfect knee to the temple, it was the only significant hit that he landed in the entire fight, but it was enough to rock Clay. He was not the same after that knee, and Huerta did an excellent job following up. Clay never had a chance to recover. Major props to Huerta for not loosing heart as any less of a fighter would.

I am concerned that Huerta said he was never worried during the fight, he must know that he was getting dominated before that knee landed. What would have happened if he missed? This fight showed that Huerta is vulnerable, he can be beaten up, and he can be knocked out. He needs to work on improving his game, I personally would love to see the rematch between these two in 1 year.

oh ok so what you saying is that roger wasn’t focused in rounds 1 and 2? oh and here i thought he just got beat in those two rounds by the better fighter…. by your way of thinking Buster Douglas was a better fighter than Mike Tyson.
I think not….

You could clearly see a change in his demeanor before the third round opened. I never said he wasn’t focused to begin with but it was evident that he took his game to another level, one that Clay didn’t/doesn’t have, and came out victorious. If I’m not mistaken Clay has a losing record in the UFC. Regardless of the opponent, in Rogers case, he still wins and he was successful again his biggest opponnent to date put before him…that being Clay. He was and is the better fighter…HE WON.

Let me start by saying I am a Guida fan. I thought he clearly won the first two rounds (though the 1st was closer than the 2nd). Initially, I thought Huerta landed a lucky knee in the 3rd, but I’m starting to think that knee was more skill than luck. Throughout the match Guida kept shooting in. By the third round Huerta was expecting the tackdown and unleashed a very precise knee.

I don’t want to take anything away from guida, who is still one of my favorite fighters. But I do think Huerta deserves all due respect.

I agree with you VM, Clay not only won the first two rounds, he dominated, and Roger knew it! Clay was getting the takedowns, and out wrestling Roger, and doing a lot of damage from the guard (did you see Rogers face after the fight, Guida hardly has a mark, but Roger sure did). Roger had the superior standup but Clay just would not let him use it.

The second round was all Clay, I do not see a case for a 10-8 round as one of the judges had it, since Roger (despite being dominated) was still hanging in there even after getting knocked out for a second in the last minute (nice recovery!).

I did see that look in Huerta’s eyes at the beginning of the Third, very determined, he knew he was behind. But did you see Clay!! He had this scary I’m a caveman from hell look, he had the eyes of a serial killer!

For those who say that Clay gassed in the third they need to watch the fight again. Huerta timed his takedown and landed a perfect knee to the temple, it was the only significant hit that he landed in the entire fight, but it was enough to rock Clay. He was not the same after that knee, and Huerta did an excellent job following up. Clay never had a chance to recover. Major props to Huerta for not loosing heart as any less of a fighter would.

I am concerned that Huerta said he was never worried during the fight, he must know that he was getting dominated before that knee landed. What would have happened if he missed? This fight showed that Huerta is vulnerable, he can be beaten up, and he can be knocked out. He needs to work on improving his game, I personally would love to see the rematch between these two in 1 year.

Agreed, agreed and agreed!

Man, what a fight. The entire card was unbelievably exciting. I’d have to say it bested the last PPV.

Anyhow, big ups to both fighters, I was really rooting for clay, but he fell victim to some serious knees. Here’s to hopin’ we see Clay again soon. The mad caveman capenter is currently my favorite UFC fighter. The guy’s super classy and great to watch fight.

How was Clay dominate in wrestling when the ONLY thing he did was get a takedown and get pushed off and Roger got back up? Clay did nothing with his “superior” wrestling! Nothing! So that makes the 1st round close. If Clay had any skills on the ground he would be 5-0 in the UFC. Guess what? That is about what Roger is. Win and move on. That is all you have to do.

In the 2nd round if, and I know about ifs, if Roger doesnt get caught, he probably ends the fight in the 2nd. Guida was taking some shots that staggered him back. To his credit he caught Roger with a nice one that put him down that allowed Giuda to win that round. You notice I didnt say finsih Huerta off or win the fight. Clay cant finish!

And the 3rd round was dominated by Huerta from the look to the 1st punch. And then submitted the guy that was supposed to be “better” on the ground.

1st round was close – I did give it to Guida
2nd round was Huerta unitl he got caught
3rd we know what happened

This wasnt a beat down that all you Huerta haters say it was. I dont know if you guys are racists, jealous, haters, pull for the underdog, or what (all of the adjectives are the exact the words that I have read in these comments of this article), but whatever it is you guys need to get a grip on who won and who is the better fighter.

I’m with you Anomaly. Huerta just squeeked by Guida, who is now 2-3 in the UFC. All of Guida’s fight’s were against tougher opponents than Heurta’s toughtes opponent to date. This win cements Huerta in the Top 10. There is no way that Roger is even Top 5 right now. So a title shot??? NOBODY in the LW division will get a title show without defeating Kenny Florian – that, to me, is a fact

Roger Huerta haters = Huaters

Dudes lucky he won he got his ass kicked the first 2 rounds badly, the better fighter lost that evening.

Yeah that’s why the guido he was fighting wasn’t smart enough to throw a couple more punches rogers way. The better fighter won that night, just becuase the scott stapp wannabe landed a lucky punch doesn’t mean that he’s a better fighter. 1st round, split down the middle, second round guida won, third round roger did what he does best, and embarrassed his opponent. Punch for punch, Roger Huerta IS the future of the UFC lightweight division.

Punch for punch, Roger Huerta IS the future of the UFC lightweight division.

Laughable at best.

Private Pyle checking in…thanks for the contribution…

He is just showing pride in his heritage. Stop hating.

Laughable at best.

..Slow it down a bit.

Jesse Holland
Dec 10th, 2007 at 6:38 pm Quote this comment
Roger Huerta haters = Huaters

LOL. I roger that

This wasnt a beat down that all you Huerta haters say it was. I dont know if you guys are racists, jealous, haters, pull for the underdog, or what (all of the adjectives are the exact the words that I have read in these comments of this article), but whatever it is you guys need to get a grip on who won and who is the better fighter.

Man this is the second time you have brought up race in this discussion. I’m inclined to believe that if anyone on this site has a problem with race its you…..Save that talk for MSNBC or something. The original poster wasn’t talking about race anyway, he was talking about taking pride in your country. The last time I checked OUR country is made up of lots of races. If we’re “Huerta Haters” then you must be a “Huerta Nut Hugger”

Found a great pic of Huerta and Big John at the beginning of the 3rd round. It says it all… it’s a shame more wasn’t made of his departure though.
http://a980.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/71/l_39100d0fa22d2ee406510252ccb4ceab.jpg

bottom line is that guida “cheeze” could not put huerta away! talk all you want about would’ve, could’ve, should’ve…guida didn’t have the power or drive to put huerta away. last i remember is guida turning beat red after getting a knee to the grill and then being choked out like a dawg! if you guida cheeze lovers think he’s better why couldn’t your boy finish huerta?!?!?! you need to be a finisher in this sport.

Ken Flo -- Hmmmm

 Loss Sean Sherk Lost to Sean

 Win Sam Stout only quality figher he has fought
 Win Kit Cope 2nd mma fight
 Win Alex Karalexis No longer in the ufc
 Loss Diego Sanchez Lost
 Loss Drew Fickett Lost
 Win Bobby McAndrews Who is he ?

Who did he fight to earn a title shot….. compare hist record to Huerta…

Did ken flo get the title shoot because he is a true ufc poster boy…

Huerta record is 20 and what ????

nuff said

Kenflo also beat Din Thomas, Alvin Robinson and Mishima- all this year.

Roger said on the radio that he’s not gonna fight for 8 months and that he wants to take some time off. I was really hoping to see him fight KenFlo, Frankie or Tyson at 81.

Dudes lucky he won he got his ass kicked the first 2 rounds badly, the better fighter lost that evening.

 
 What? like the guy said the first round was close, Clay won round 2 but, Roger was landing some heavy shots in both rounds. Round 3 was more heavy shots from Roger except he finished what he started. Clay was gased at the end of round 2 if he had more in the tank he prolly could of finished it, but he was exauhsted. You got to give it to both guys that was one hell of a fight.

 I will say this if Roger fights kenflo he won’t be undefeated in the ufc for long