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UFC 81: Randy Couture turns down title defense against Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira

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UFC Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture will not fight Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira at UFC 81: "Breaking Point" on February 2, according to MMAWeekly.com.

"The Natural" unexpectedly handed in his resignation via fax on October 11, 2007, for two reasons: The UFC could not land free agent superstar Fedor Emelianenko (the Russian signed with M-1 Global) and Couture felt that his compensation was not adequate compared to other top draws within the organization.

We're not going to rehash the back-and-forth shenanigans that have transpired over the course of the last two months -- it's literally taken on a life of its own. From dueling press conferences to missed meetings to puppies, we've covered the entire saga right here.

For now it's just good to get some clarity on the situation even if it comes at the expense (seeming retirement) of one of the best fighters and ambassadors the sport of mixed martial arts has ever witnessed. And, it appears that Couture and the UFC were able to "mend fences" at the end of the day.

Here's a snip from "Captain America:"

"We've cleared the air, and hopefully we'll move forward with some sort of relationship. I've got a lot of fighters and a lot of things that hinge around mixed martial arts and the UFC as well. I want to continue to work with them and I think that they want to continue to work with me, so we'll figure out how that happens."

The tenor of this article more or less indicates that Couture has made the decision to maintain on the sidelines (again ... he first retired in 2005) and concentrate on the business side of things, which includes a successful nationwide MMA training enterprise, X-Treme Couture. He's also been busy with acting and other ventures outside the Octagon.

However, he claims that he still wants Fedor ... even though it will probably never happen.

Here's another snip from Couture:

"Obviously I have a contractual obligation with the UFC. There's been some haggling and things going on with all that, and Fedor signing with M-1 made the possibility of that fight very difficult because of that and because of those contracts."

While Couture takes time to "smell the roses," his decision to forfeit the heavyweight belt means that former champion Tim Sylvia and number one contender Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira will likely clash to claim the vacant division strap (unless the UFC can make a decision regarding Andrei Arlovski). That showdown will more than likely headline UFC 81.

For the latest UFC 81 fight card click here.

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ahh piss…..

by ACanadianPotHead on Dec 3, 2007 7:06 PM EST reply actions  

Inter-hmm

by the Purple Nurpler on Dec 3, 2007 7:08 PM EST reply actions  

Randy fought the law (a.k.a Dana White) and MMA and its fans lost!

by Big Rush on Dec 3, 2007 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

Thats not the news I wanted to hear! I was hoping that Randy would come back and finish his last 2 fights.I hate to think we may never see Randy Couture back in the octagon,as a fighter! I’m a huge UFC fan but this hurts the UFC.Well I wish Randy the best and thanks for all the great fights.My best memory will always be UFC 68 where I went to see Randy Couture make history.

by Charlie Sharlow on Dec 3, 2007 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

Its just business. Randy was looking to “wait” his way out of his contact with Zuffa, so he could get the big money fight with Fedor. It appears that the Zuffa contract has so many one-sided protective clauses that it was not feasible to resign. Now it will take miracles to get the Fedor night. It a shame since the UFC’s growth has slowed dramatically and something big is needed to keep it growing. Big Nog and Slyvia is not that catalyst.

by Big Rush on Dec 3, 2007 7:19 PM EST reply actions  

i can’t blame him for not wanting anyother fight at 44 its best to just retire,he had a great career.

by roy on Dec 3, 2007 7:24 PM EST reply actions  

MMAMANIA are you serious! There is a very real chance that Randy and Fedor will fight. Only if the arrogant UFC brass gets it together because theycould contract Fedor out which is in his M-1 contract. Is MMAMANIA doing there homework?

by Al on Dec 3, 2007 7:28 PM EST reply actions  

thats what happens when you have a ass clown like dana white running the show.but i think well see randy fight in the future they just gotta let things cool down randy is a great fighter and this will hurt the ufc just like it will its fans. give it time i feel somebody will call him out or dana may make a call to mm1 and try to work out a blockbuster deal to help out both organizations because this is what the people want to see on both ends of their companys.

by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Dec 3, 2007 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

what else is new we all knew he wasn’t gonna fight and the title is up for grabs i hope nogueira kicks tim’s butt

by bryant on Dec 3, 2007 7:32 PM EST reply actions  

MMAMANIA are you serious! There is a very real chance that Randy and Fedor will fight. Only if the arrogant UFC brass gets it together because theycould contract Fedor out which is in his M-1 contract. Is MMAMANIA doing there homework?

1). He’s 44. 2). I said “probably” 3). Couture admits in the article that the contracts (UFC and M-1) will make it difficult.

Where’s your homework/source that says there’s a “very real chance?” Please post, master.

by MMAmania on Dec 3, 2007 7:37 PM EST reply actions  

I think you meant Oct 11, 2007.

by Garrett on Dec 3, 2007 7:39 PM EST reply actions  

I think you meant Oct 11, 2007.

Indeed, thanks.

by MMAmania on Dec 3, 2007 7:41 PM EST reply actions  

if dana does let randy fight fedor he probally dosn’t want the ufc h.w belt to be in randys hands furthering fedors numbner 1 spot.i dout it will ever happen but if it does i am sure dana dosn’t want fedor to beat the ufc h.w. champ.

by roy on Dec 3, 2007 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

Why doesn’t Randy drop down and take the belt from Rampage?

by contempl8t on Dec 3, 2007 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

$h!t one. Might as well consider him retired now (again!…probably for good this time). At least he kind of went out on top if you know what I mean although less than ideal circumstances.

by RobH86 on Dec 3, 2007 7:47 PM EST reply actions  

In order to make this fight happen:

 1) The UFC must deviate from their exlusive contract policy
     and contract for for Fedor for 1 fight.

 2) The UFC must deviate from its “no co-promotion with other
     organizations” policy.

 3) Randy could not be champion at the time of the fight or
     the UFC would need to deviate from its “no title fight
     unless we have you under a long term deal” policy.

 4) The UFC would need to renogotiate Randy’s existing
     contract, despite the bad blood from recent mudslinging.

 5) The UFC would have to pay Fedor more than it ever paid a
     UFC fighter previously.

 6) Randy would need to be in top shape about 4 – 6 months
      from today at the earliest and his arm must heal
      properly.

How likely would it be for all of these thing to happen at the same time?

by Big Rush on Dec 3, 2007 7:48 PM EST reply actions  

i thinks he truly just wanted some time off, it makes sence hes always busy, with training himself, his fighters, with running his gym, his clothing line, being a commenattor for ufc making a few movies, commercials and all the pr stuff. damn he might take a few months off like 6-8 then get in killer shape again and come back, i dont think its too much to ask for

by hector on Dec 3, 2007 8:00 PM EST reply actions  

Lets all accept the fact that Randy is retired and he damaged his own position with the UFC on his way out the door. Lets be thankful for his last two fights and hope that the UFC doesn’t end up treating him like the 3 other hall of famers, whom we see….. uh …. never.

by Big Rush on Dec 3, 2007 8:06 PM EST reply actions  

im losin alot of respect for randy couture over all this fight ur last two fights on the contract and retire its not rocket science hes not fighting fedor big fuckin deal fight nog or sombody else

by dcsoldier187 on Dec 3, 2007 8:11 PM EST reply actions  

The more I think about it, the more I feel that Randy is making a wrong decision. He signed a contract. If he has issues with the UFC, he should simply man up, finish out his contract, and then make off into the sunset. I still have respect for the fighter, but have lost a little for the man.

by MIKE on Dec 3, 2007 8:11 PM EST reply actions  

Another title shot for Tim Sylvia, it’s ridiculous. They can’t want him as their champion again, he hurt the heavyweight division. Like you said Mania, they need to get Arlovski in there in the main event, he was after all promised a title shot if he beat Werdum.

by theCloser on Dec 3, 2007 8:13 PM EST reply actions  

Oh well, what could have been. Wish Randy all the best, he deserves it!

by Ray on Dec 3, 2007 8:14 PM EST reply actions  

DW is the 800 lb gorilla of contract negotiations. He will not give Arlovski a title shot untill AA has signed a long term deal at below market rates. I have heard rumors that they are giving him a can on the undercard in March and telling him not to let the door hit him in the ass on the way out.

by Big Rush on Dec 3, 2007 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

Another great destroyed by a Yoko. For all the great thing Randy once was, he is now known as the prima donna.

by ajadoniz on Dec 3, 2007 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

Whoever is advising Couture has made a huge mistake. Couture comes across as somewhat dishonest and a bit of a “backstabber” and with respect to the Fertitta’s. He has really tarnished his image. He should just admit that he doesn’t want to fight anymore. I guess all the other heavyweights aren’t “good enough” for Randy. What a lousy way for him to go out. Dumb move.

by Muscle Dolphin on Dec 3, 2007 8:35 PM EST reply actions  

F***K ME THIS SUCKS

by elw 215 on Dec 3, 2007 9:19 PM EST reply actions  

Bad move on randy’s part, I bet he could make a lot more money with the ufc than he could acting, from what I hear he sucks acting. Truth be told though, the UFC doesn’t need him they have so many big stars they’ll be just fine.

by nathan on Dec 3, 2007 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

im not surprised.

by PhilQNY on Dec 3, 2007 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

Randy is smart and he is a capitalist like the rest of us. Because of his UFC popularity, he can make more money now at acting then he can fighting since his current contract is so limiting. Who wouldn’t make the same decision under these circumstances.

by Big Rush on Dec 3, 2007 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

ATTENTION (MOST)MMAMANIA: Quit blaming DW/UFC for this debacle. GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE AND EDUCATE YOURSELF. It was Capt. Quit who turned in his belt after the UFC gave him the opportunity of his life as he had no right to be in a title fight after losing his last 2. It was Fedor who was over demanding in his contract that killed the possibility of one of the greatest MMA fights of all time. If the UFC gives in to Fedor’s outrageous demands then what other rules will they have to break next? Get off Randy’s jock, he quit before proving he is the greatest current HW. Sorry 2 wins ain’t enough. This isn’t the WWF. Dana isn’t the big bad Vinny Mac and Randy isn’t some blue collar hero, he’s just a lucky whiner who was given an opportunity he didn’t deserve that won 2 fights only to quit when he didn’t get the fight or money he thought he deserved. Wake up people and start smelling the truth.

by Nine Duce on Dec 3, 2007 9:50 PM EST reply actions  

ATTENTION (MOST)MMAMANIA: Quit blaming DW/UFC for this debacle. GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE AND EDUCATE YOURSELF. It was Capt. Quit who turned in his belt after the UFC gave him the opportunity of his life as he had no right to be in a title fight after losing his last 2. It was Fedor who was over demanding in his contract that killed the possibility of one of the greatest MMA fights of all time. If the UFC gives in to Fedor’s outrageous demands then what other rules will they have to break next? Get off Randy’s jock, he quit before proving he is the greatest current HW. Sorry 2 wins ain’t enough. This isn’t the WWF. Dana isn’t the big bad Vinny Mac and Randy isn’t some blue collar hero, he’s just a lucky whiner who was given an opportunity he didn’t deserve that won 2 fights only to quit when he didn’t get the fight or money he thought he deserved. Wake up people and start smelling the truth.

^ Monte Cox of M-1 Organization.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Dec 3, 2007 10:00 PM EST reply actions  

who really wants to see Tim and big Nog. that card just went to crap in my mind. OF COURSE we’re all gonna watch it, but the main event now just made it a little boring. at least it’ll be 5 rounds, so Nog can eventually get off the cage so we’ll see a little offence that fight.

by Bushswinger on Dec 3, 2007 10:01 PM EST reply actions  

This is what will happen:

UFC has to give the belt to someone else, because a fight with Fedor and Randy WITH the UFC belt is not possible. UFC cannot risk to have their HW belt with another organization. I agree with randy not wanting to fight unless it’s with Fedor. I bet UFC is part of this too!!!! You know why? Because UFC couldn’t sign Fedor, having Randy fight other guys and risking him losing would dimishing the full value of a Fedor fight. Fedor being the top ranked HW fighter, and Randy being UFC champ and coming off 2 HUGE wins! You can say that Randy is (sorta) in his prime. Randy losing a fight with someone else & POOF, he’s not the best contender for Fedor. Also, UFC can’t have Randy fight too long, cause obvisouly he’s getting old.

I personally thing we WILL see a Fedor & Randy fight in 2008. Probably december 27th, 2008. A NON title fight but who cares? It’ll be the biggest pay-per-view seller and THE BIGGEST fight this sport has EVER seen.

Next best fight: the “Spider” Silva vs GSP…

hmmm who would win?

Fedor vs Randy: Total Fedor domination, although I have the upmost respect for Randy, and think he’s an amazing fighter! Fedor is just WAY ahead of the game.

Silva vs GSP: VERY close fight with GSP taking it. lol I’m gonna lots of replies with people mad at me…

by evangelion27 on Dec 3, 2007 10:02 PM EST reply actions  

Why would he take on Fedor but not Big Nog? If he thinks Nog isn’t the same caliber fighter as Fedor he’s dead wrong. He should step up and fight him to give the fans a fight they’d want.

by Saint Gasoline on Dec 3, 2007 10:11 PM EST reply actions  

Looks to me like Randy finally realized that he’s not above the sport and without UFC, his money making ability isn’t very great. If he wants his fighters to have a chance to get virtually ANY exposure nationally than he needs the UFC more than they need him. I think that as a champion in a company you should respect the title and the opportunities you have been given. For Randy to hold up the title and screw up the title’s lineage was disgraceful. For him to now change his stance after REALITY set in is pretty funny. “Oh no, are my fighters gonna be blackballed from UFC? How am I gonna get my products out there without UFC fighter support? HOW AM I GONNA MAKE MONEY WITHOUT THEM?” He’s like a 14 year old spoiled runaway. “I’m leaving! I don’t need you to survive!”……Only to come running back to Daddy with Tears in His Eyes when he couldn’t cut it in the REAL WORLD.

by MyQuit on Dec 3, 2007 10:20 PM EST reply actions  

OMG Tim Sylvia could potentially be the champ once again.
I’m looking out the window right now to see if i spot any flying pigs.

by jjdnb on Dec 3, 2007 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

umm so is randy gonna get stripped ?

by TraF on Dec 3, 2007 10:26 PM EST reply actions  

Looks to me like Randy finally realized that he’s not above the sport and without UFC, his money making ability isn’t very great. If he wants his fighters to have a chance to get virtually ANY exposure nationally than he needs the UFC more than they need him. I think that as a champion in a company you should respect the title and the opportunities you have been given. For Randy to hold up the title and screw up the title’s lineage was disgraceful. For him to now change his stance after REALITY set in is pretty funny. “Oh no, are my fighters gonna be blackballed from UFC? How am I gonna get my products out there without UFC fighter support? HOW AM I GONNA MAKE MONEY WITHOUT THEM?” He’s like a 14 year old spoiled runaway. “I’m leaving! I don’t need you to survive!”……Only to come running back to Daddy with Tears in His Eyes when he couldn’t cut it in the REAL WORLD.

wow are you taking down you randy poster now? you seem disturbed

by BLOodyMEss on Dec 3, 2007 10:46 PM EST reply actions  

sylvia said he wants to fight kongo so let him and bring arlovski in to fight big nog for the belt, he was promised a title shot anyway after the werdum fight, this would be an opportunity for the ufc to fulfill that, plus it would be a more exciting fight to watch and it would give kongo another guy that would stand with him…even if none of that ever happens, the ufc still needs to make a move on the arlovski contract issue, i want to see that guy fight, its been way too long…

by tha spida on Dec 3, 2007 11:02 PM EST reply actions  

MMAMANIA are you serious! There is a very real chance that Randy and Fedor will fight. Only if the arrogant UFC brass gets it together because theycould contract Fedor out which is in his M-1 contract. Is MMAMANIA doing there homework?

Dude – get a clue. They will never fight. Sometimes there’s not enough fairydust to make your dreams come true. Get used to real life.

by EdenMachine on Dec 3, 2007 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

This is what will happen:

UFC has to give the belt to someone else, because a fight with Fedor and Randy WITH the UFC belt is not possible. UFC cannot risk to have their HW belt with another organization. I agree with randy not wanting to fight unless it’s with Fedor. I bet UFC is part of this too!!!! You know why? Because UFC couldn’t sign Fedor, having Randy fight other guys and risking him losing would dimishing the full value of a Fedor fight. Fedor being the top ranked HW fighter, and Randy being UFC champ and coming off 2 HUGE wins! You can say that Randy is (sorta) in his prime. Randy losing a fight with someone else & POOF, he’s not the best contender for Fedor. Also, UFC can’t have Randy fight too long, cause obvisouly he’s getting old.

I personally thing we WILL see a Fedor & Randy fight in 2008. Probably december 27th, 2008. A NON title fight but who cares? It’ll be the biggest pay-per-view seller and THE BIGGEST fight this sport has EVER seen.

Next best fight: the “Spider” Silva vs GSP…

hmmm who would win?

Fedor vs Randy: Total Fedor domination, although I have the upmost respect for Randy, and think he’s an amazing fighter! Fedor is just WAY ahead of the game.

Silva vs GSP: VERY close fight with GSP taking it. lol I’m gonna lots of replies with people mad at me…

I’m surprised you didn’t throw Cassius Clay in there somewhere – jeez.

by EdenMachine on Dec 3, 2007 11:14 PM EST reply actions  

I personally think this whole thing has made Couture and Fedor look like asses. Couture bitched about shit that was handed to him, like the belt coming off of 2 loses and nothaving to fight anyone to get into a contender spot and money waaa waaa I only made 2 million last year instead of 2 million. Fedor looks like a chump because it looks like he was in the ghetto dodging the bullet with his name on it. Instead he is going to sign to a promotion who has no promotion and contracted out their #1 and only real acquisition to Fight Korean King Kong who is on a 2 fight winning streak(note to self he has only 2 MMA fights-that is an mma elitist streak) against a has been and a never was. I hope Fedor looses to this Genetic freak of nature and ends up being #80 on the top fighters list. They are both self righteous MMA Rockstar pricks. I was glad when Bill duff beat the crap out of Fedors Russian sidekick on the Sambo episode of Human Weapon…

by Da Monkey on Dec 3, 2007 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

[quote comment=“225199”]to fight anyone to get into a contender spot and money waaa waaa I only made 2 million last year instead of 2 million.
 quote]
 2 million instead of 3 million sorry just a little worked up over this whole scenario….

by Da Monkey on Dec 3, 2007 11:38 PM EST reply actions  

OMG Tim Sylvia could potentially be the champ once again.
I’m looking out the window right now to see if i spot any flying pigs.

I’m not very concerned about Sylvia winning, I am more concerned about predicting how Nogueira is going to submit Tim. Right now I’m leaning towards a Frank-Mir-style armbar.

by Khemtawe on Dec 4, 2007 12:37 AM EST reply actions  

Randy is smart and he is a capitalist like the rest of us. Because of his UFC popularity, he can make more money now at acting then he can fighting since his current contract is so limiting. Who wouldn’t make the same decision under these circumstances.

You’re right in that he can make more money now, not necessarily from acting, but promoting his other business ventures, public speaking, MMA fighter mgmt…etc… I have no problem with the decision to retire (resign) in itself.

In the ‘way’ he made his decision to ‘speak publicly’ were hurful to himself and the UFC…there are answers to questions I still want to hear…

by THORAZINE on Dec 4, 2007 12:52 AM EST reply actions  

Looks to me like Randy finally realized that he’s not above the sport and without UFC, his money making ability isn’t very great. If he wants his fighters to have a chance to get virtually ANY exposure nationally than he needs the UFC more than they need him. I think that as a champion in a company you should respect the title and the opportunities you have been given. For Randy to hold up the title and screw up the title’s lineage was disgraceful. For him to now change his stance after REALITY set in is pretty funny. “Oh no, are my fighters gonna be blackballed from UFC? How am I gonna get my products out there without UFC fighter support? HOW AM I GONNA MAKE MONEY WITHOUT THEM?” He’s like a 14 year old spoiled runaway. “I’m leaving! I don’t need you to survive!”……Only to come running back to Daddy with Tears in His Eyes when he couldn’t cut it in the REAL WORLD.

Mannn… sharp analogy… A grade!

by THORAZINE on Dec 4, 2007 12:56 AM EST reply actions  

I THINK IM GOING TO CRY =[

by J.Cameron on Dec 4, 2007 1:25 AM EST reply actions  

OMG Tim Sylvia could potentially be the champ once again.
I’m looking out the window right now to see if i spot any flying pigs.
I’m not very concerned about Sylvia winning, I am more concerned about predicting how Nogueira is going to submit Tim. Right now I’m leaning towards a Frank-Mir-style armbar

First nogueira needs to take tim down….Not gonna happen. Dont get me wrong i hate tim as a fighter anymore. Yes he was a good fighter once upon a time. I also cant stand to watch nogueia either. The heavyweight divison has no excitement anymore. My thoughts on that fight is tim loses Nogueira loses by angry mob that smash into the octogon with one purpose and that is to get rid of 2 boring fighter. But seriously they are both past there prime. I say get brock and the bigshow to fight for the title LOL.

by frankthetank on Dec 4, 2007 1:47 AM EST reply actions  

well that sucks…really thought that randy would come back and face off against big nog……I guess he has his reasons.

by luke on Dec 4, 2007 3:23 AM EST reply actions  

Couture brought his wife into it, “1 year married” etc…I think there’s answer right there as to his influences. As soon as I saw the puppy, socks etc… I said “She’s sucking the fight outta him” and thought no way he’s fighting.

What the ‘hell’ really bothers me is we’ll never hear Randy’s answer to ‘why’ he gave the $$ figures he did? Was he really lying? Or is it just and idiotic case of bad accounting? Did Dana White UFC really offer Fedor obscene amounts of money? Is Couture really bound by the contract term and time limits? Is Dana really catcher for Liddell’s pitches?

by THORAZINE on Dec 4, 2007 3:26 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t know what any of us expected. This was an inevitability after he resigned, we will never see him fight again most likely, and never see Fedor fight a real opponent ever again. How depressing.

by The Anomaly on Dec 4, 2007 3:54 AM EST reply actions  

This is sad news. I don’t think nogeira – silvia would be a good match. Like someone said before kongo would be a better match I would like to see who is the better striker out kongo and silvia even if it isn’t for the title.

by markg on Dec 4, 2007 5:46 AM EST reply actions  

I am glad to see that Dana gets some trash from the fans, because, even if he seems to love the sport, he’s messing up lately.Bring Arlovski,and I guarantee we have a new HW champion.Oh, and someone please “get rid” of Tim Sylvia.He sucks.

by bullfighter 3 on Dec 4, 2007 7:11 AM EST reply actions  

wooow, Randy is ducking Big Nog???

by zheka on Dec 4, 2007 7:27 AM EST reply actions  

KONGO will be heavyweight champ by end of 2008

by dpb on Dec 4, 2007 7:43 AM EST reply actions  

No he’s not ducking Big Nog he wants Fedor what else does he have to prove but to beat Fedor. I don’t understand mania, didn’t you guys put an article on this site saying that M-1 was willing to work with other orginizations? I wonder if Randy and the UFC know this?

by jimmy_dean on Dec 4, 2007 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

KONGO will be heavyweight champ by end of 2008

Of cagerage??

by PhilQNY on Dec 4, 2007 8:15 AM EST reply actions  

Noguerra wins by armbar. what a surprise. Many of you guys are so pissed at Randy that you arent appreciating Noguerra. We are very lucky as fans to have had Randy as champ and now maybe Noguerra. Noguerra is a lot like Randy: very classy, professional and hard working. He deserves more respect than he is getting from some of the uneducated fans.

The problem starts if Sylvia beats him. Sylvia as champ, now thats a disgrace!\

Go big Nog.

I would rather see Noguerra vs. Arlovski for the title. I dont know if Sylvia or Arlovski should even be fighting for the title. Noguerra deserves it not for what he has done in the octagon but for what he has accomplished in PRIDE!

by john on Dec 4, 2007 8:23 AM EST reply actions  

Now is the time for Cro Cop to come out of his shell and dominate…

by BustYoFace on Dec 4, 2007 8:57 AM EST reply actions  

Why does Big Nog get a chance at the title already, after that lackluster performance? If anything I’d like to see Arlovski or Kongo fight for it. Not saying Kongo is the best, but he deserves it before Big Nog. I think Big Nog is great don’t get me wrong, but one bad performance in the octagon like that and you get to fight for the title? Pay your dues first.

by JN on Dec 4, 2007 9:53 AM EST reply actions  

Now is the time for Cro Cop to come out of his shell and dominate…

I hope he does…

by Cmack on Dec 4, 2007 10:00 AM EST reply actions  

To me Randy has a lot to prove by fighting Noguerra. Noguerra was a great champion in PRIDE, not to mention Noguerra has been ranked ahead of Randy for years now, and is still ranked higher than Randy. Randy should have man up and signed the deal to fight Noguerra. Very dissapointed!

Tim Sylvia should never fight for the title again. He had the belt twice, and was the most boring and hated champion ever. I prefer matt Serra holding the title instead of Sylvia any day. Any champion who consistently fights worse when he has the belt, is pathetic. He has had about 4 to 5 title fights, and was only impressive once against Ricco.

If Sylvia is champion again, it will be trouble for the UFC!

by John on Dec 4, 2007 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

With the Heasvyweight division sinking Fast, I really do not understand why the UFC hasnt come to terms on a new deal with Arlovski. Andre hasn’t fought like his dominate self in a while now, but Arlovski is still better than 95% of the HW out there.
Also, Arlovski is still young, he is not even 30 years old yet. Letting Arlovski walk would be very stupid, because I bet you M-1 is ready to break open the piggy bank for Arlovski,.

Dana you could either pay the man, or loose him to M-1 where he can generate the company big money, and credability with a fight against FEDOR in Russia!

Im really surprised that Dana hasnt locked him up in a new long term deal yet!

by John on Dec 4, 2007 10:17 AM EST reply actions  

Just saw the news, I guess I wasn’t that surprised, however I am happy that the UFC and Randy seemed to have patched things up at the very least. Hopefully we will see him commentating again.

by ragnarr on Dec 4, 2007 10:55 AM EST reply actions  

Why doesn’t Randy drop down and take the belt from Rampage?

Thats actualy a good idea..

by kickinthehead on Dec 4, 2007 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

lets all not watch this crap and just read about it on line,c’mon who really wants to see sylvia or nog. me personally i think gonzago deserves a title shot we all saw how he still fought randy after that n asty cut on his head,in my eyes hes the top heavyweight in the class right now,so cancell the fight with werdum and put gonzaga against nog….better yet gonzaga vs orlovski?

by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Dec 4, 2007 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

he is 44 yrs old,some of you think he should fight forever.fedor is considered the best so he only wanted that fight or it was time to retire.a fight with nog would have been great shit a fight with anyone would have been nice but at his age and what he has already done in the sport why do it.

by roy on Dec 4, 2007 11:19 AM EST reply actions  

i think couture is chicken…..time must finally be getting to him….$%$## piss me off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Bruce on Dec 4, 2007 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

lets all not watch this crap and just read about it on line,c’mon who really wants to see sylvia or nog. me personally i think gonzago deserves a title shot we all saw how he still fought randy after that n asty cut on his head,in my eyes hes the top heavyweight in the class right now,so cancell the fight with werdum and put gonzaga against nog….better yet gonzaga vs orlovski?

Don’t be so sure, Werdum beat Gonzaga last time they fought. I would like to see if he could do it again in an MMA match.

by ragnarr on Dec 4, 2007 11:51 AM EST reply actions  

Why is everone talking about Big Nog?! And some are saying he is in the same league as Fedor?! people saying Fedor is dodging a bullet?!?! WTF!!! GO LOOK AT AT HIS WINS IN THE PAST 2 1/2 YRS!!!! HE’S FOUGHT AND DESTROYED EVERYONE (except for Cro Cop)!!! YES EVERYONE!! HE DESTROYED BIG NOG I DON’T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES DAMINT!!! Big Nog is good, but nowhere NEAR Fedor! Randleman, Mark Hunt, Big Nog twice I think, Cro Cop, …… Jesus people wake up! Who cares about Arlovski or Big Nog! UFC HW is gonna hurt BAD becasue they didn’t want to let Fedor fight in a stupid sambo tournament! If they sign Barnett, then MAYBE there’s a chance, or if Cro Cop comes out of his shell….

by evangelion27 on Dec 4, 2007 12:00 PM EST reply actions  

Timmy Vs Big Nog for the main strap. Then get AA to fight the winner. Mix in a bit of Kongo later in the year.

Randy Vs Fedor in an exibition match mid 2008… UFC 84 “Legacy”.

That way if Randy looses Dana hasn’t got to swallow the UFC champ being beaten my an M-1 fighter and can use the ’he’s old anyway excuse’.

You heard it here first.

by Nick J on Dec 4, 2007 12:06 PM EST reply actions  

Why is everone talking about Big Nog?! And some are saying he is in the same league as Fedor?! people saying Fedor is dodging a bullet?!?! WTF!!! GO LOOK AT AT HIS WINS IN THE PAST 2 1/2 YRS!!!! HE’S FOUGHT AND DESTROYED EVERYONE (except for Cro Cop)!!! YES EVERYONE!! HE DESTROYED BIG NOG I DON’T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES DAMINT!!! Big Nog is good, but nowhere NEAR Fedor! Randleman, Mark Hunt, Big Nog twice I think, Cro Cop, …… Jesus people wake up! Who cares about Arlovski or Big Nog! UFC HW is gonna hurt BAD becasue they didn’t want to let Fedor fight in a stupid sambo tournament! If they sign Barnett, then MAYBE there’s a chance, or if Cro Cop comes out of his shell….

big nog controlled the h.w. division in pride intell fedor beat him, you say barnett who i think is one of the best h.w. but big nog has beaten him and cro cop.fedor is still ranked #1 but nog is 2nd or 3rd.

by roy on Dec 4, 2007 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

So Randy opts retirement rather than risking tarnishing his legacy by fighting Nog. Randy would have been willing to fight Fedor because he matches up better stylistically with Fedor then Nog, who is a grappler and submission assassian. I can handle that. It is ridiculous that we had to endure through all the shinnanigans though.

What the "hell’ really bothers me is we’ll never hear Randy’s answer to "why’ he gave the $$ figures he did? Was he really lying? Or is it just and idiotic case of bad accounting? Did Dana White UFC really offer Fedor obscene amounts of money? Is Couture really bound by the contract term and time limits? Is Dana really catcher for Liddell’s pitches?

I completely agree, that was all glossed over wasn’t it

by FFL on Dec 4, 2007 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

So Randy opts retirement rather than risking tarnishing his legacy by fighting Nog. Randy would have been willing to fight Fedor because he matches up better stylistically with Fedor then Nog, who is a grappler and submission assassian. I can handle that. It is ridiculous that we had to endure through all the shinnanigans though.

No he’s not ducking Big Nog he wants Fedor what else does he have to prove but to beat Fedor. I don’t understand mania, didn’t you guys put an article on this site saying that M-1 was willing to work with other orginizations? I wonder if Randy and the UFC know this?

Yes, both the UFC and Randy know. It has been covered (painfully) extensively on this beautiful web site (Mania – compliments for cash, deal?) UFC/Dana will not work with fighters out of the orginization for promotions; that is why they sign exclusive contracts

What the "hell’ really bothers me is we’ll never hear Randy’s answer to "why’ he gave the $$ figures he did? Was he really lying? Or is it just and idiotic case of bad accounting? Did Dana White UFC really offer Fedor obscene amounts of money? Is Couture really bound by the contract term and time limits? Is Dana really catcher for Liddell’s pitches?

I completely agree, that was all glossed over wasn’t it

by FFL on Dec 4, 2007 12:11 PM EST reply actions  

all good stories eventually come to an end

by c-war on Dec 4, 2007 12:15 PM EST reply actions  

I am done with Randy Couture in the UFC, he has forgotten where he came from.

by Yoububg on Dec 4, 2007 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

I wonder if I can buy the movie rights to the Dana White/Randy Couture/UFC saga. I feel like this is just a bad soap opera.

by Big House on Dec 4, 2007 12:53 PM EST reply actions  

Of cagerage??

hahahaha total facial!

by shaze on Dec 4, 2007 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

If Randy fought Big Nog and finished him, in my book he’ll be better than Fedor. Fedor foght Nog 3 times minus one from the cut Fedor got early in the fight and was stoped the other 2 times they went to the judges. If Randy would’ve fought and stop Big Nog he would be the #1 HW considering that Nog is the #2 HW

by Da Twin on Dec 4, 2007 1:52 PM EST reply actions  

Randy never wanted to fight Fedor. Fedor going to M-1 being one of the reasons for him to retire is a BS. He does not have the heart to fight anyone now. As much as he hates Dana, he’s become just like him, an entrepreneur.

by Scott on Dec 4, 2007 1:56 PM EST reply actions  

No he’s not ducking Big Nog he wants Fedor what else does he have to prove but to beat Fedor. I don’t understand mania, didn’t you guys put an article on this site saying that M-1 was willing to work with other orginizations? I wonder if Randy and the UFC know this?

He’s got alot to prove… Randy got wellknown only after his last 2 wins over TS/GG… Big Nog is a great fighter who will fight you to death he’ll keep comin’ at you… not to mention his bjj skills…

by zheka on Dec 4, 2007 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

All Hail Antonio Rodrigo “Minataurro” Noguerra the next UFC Heavyweight Champion of the world!

THe heavyweight division needs help. they should resign Arlovski, bring back former UFC champ who I thought could have beaten Randy without steroids Josh Barnett. UFC shouldnt have lowballed Aleksander Emelianenko and they should have let Fedor compete in his shitty Sambo….Then none of this would have ever happened!

by john on Dec 4, 2007 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

Bring in Mark Hunt!!!! Does anyone know if the flying atomic butt drop would be legal in the UFC?

by john on Dec 4, 2007 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

All Hail Antonio Rodrigo “Minataurro” Noguerra the next UFC Heavyweight Champion of the world!

THe heavyweight division needs help. they should resign Arlovski, bring back former UFC champ who I thought could have beaten Randy without steroids Josh Barnett. UFC shouldnt have lowballed Aleksander Emelianenko and they should have let Fedor compete in his shitty Sambo….Then none of this would have ever happened!

i agree 100%

by roy on Dec 4, 2007 4:42 PM EST reply actions  

If Randy fought Big Nog and finished him, in my book he’ll be better than Fedor. Fedor foght Nog 3 times minus one from the cut Fedor got early in the fight and was stoped the other 2 times they went to the judges. If Randy would’ve fought and stop Big Nog he would be the #1 HW considering that Nog is the #2 HW

yeah that may make him #1,but he would have to beat nog first i don’t think he could.i like randy and have alot of respect for his skills but people are trying to say he is #1 after 2 h.w. wins against sylvia(not in the top 5)and gonzaga,maybe one of the best but still has to prove it with only 1 notable win over cro cop who many here say sucks.

by roy on Dec 4, 2007 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

No he’s not ducking Big Nog he wants Fedor what else does he have to prove but to beat Fedor. I don’t understand mania, didn’t you guys put an article on this site saying that M-1 was willing to work with other orginizations? I wonder if Randy and the UFC know this?

It’s hard for us fans to undestand wha’ts in the contract, we’ll never know.

by THORAZINE on Dec 4, 2007 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

Why does Big Nog get a chance at the title already, after that lackluster performance? If anything I’d like to see Arlovski or Kongo fight for it. Not saying Kongo is the best, but he deserves it before Big Nog. I think Big Nog is great don’t get me wrong, but one bad performance in the octagon like that and you get to fight for the title? Pay your dues first.

Hes paid his dues long before he ever got into the Octagon. He deserves a title shot before Kongo ever does. Just because Kongo won his first two fights in MMA? Big Nog was second best after Fedor, fought the best fighters and took fedor the distance twice. Former champion in Pride. I think hes paid his dues.

by JJ on Dec 5, 2007 7:12 AM EST reply actions  

Don’t be so sure, Werdum beat Gonzaga last time they fought. I would like to see if he could do it again in an MMA match.


well they are schedulled to fight here soon so it should be a good one..the last time i saw werdum fight was against arlowski and he lost via decision

by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Dec 5, 2007 9:12 AM EST reply actions  

all this talk about fedor is bullshit!!!!!!!fedor is ranked #1 who in the hell does the figuring here who in the hell did he beat??//cro cop what 2-3times big deal,big nog….should have been knocked out by the texan. to me fedor is a bum..the only fighter that came out of pride that proved something to me was rampage period.fedor didnt sighn in the ufc because he wants to keep fighting nobodys and keep a good record,hes ducking the toughest competitor in the game today you know it and so do i.so fedor you wanna prove something here in america come talk to your bum ass mm1 promoter and make it happen im sure dana and randy would listen untill then keep fighting your nobodys and go down in history as a somebody…you gotta live with it man no i!

by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Dec 5, 2007 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

all this talk about fedor is bullshit!!!!!!!fedor is ranked #1 who in the hell does the figuring here who in the hell did he beat??//cro cop what 2-3times big deal,big nog….should have been knocked out by the texan. to me fedor is a bum..the only fighter that came out of pride that proved something to me was rampage period.fedor didnt sighn in the ufc because he wants to keep fighting nobodys and keep a good record,hes ducking the toughest competitor in the game today you know it and so do i.so fedor you wanna prove something here in america come talk to your bum ass mm1 promoter and make it happen im sure dana and randy would listen untill then keep fighting your nobodys and go down in history as a somebody…you gotta live with it man no i!

where you talking about ortiz

by roy on Dec 5, 2007 11:50 AM EST reply actions  

where you talking about ortiz


at least he fought great fighters lidell 2 times cotoure once top lightweight contender griffen…….yea thats what im talking about roy!what or who has fedor beat…matt linland what a joke man!

by ORTIZ!!!!!!08....BABY! on Dec 5, 2007 7:55 PM EST reply actions  

all this talk about fedor is bullshit!!!!!!!fedor is ranked #1 who in the hell does the figuring here who in the hell did he beat??//cro cop what 2-3times big deal,big nog….should have been knocked out by the texan. to me fedor is a bum..the only fighter that came out of pride that proved something to me was rampage period.fedor didnt sighn in the ufc because he wants to keep fighting nobodys and keep a good record,hes ducking the toughest competitor in the game today you know it and so do i.so fedor you wanna prove something here in america come talk to your bum ass mm1 promoter and make it happen im sure dana and randy would listen untill then keep fighting your nobodys and go down in history as a somebody…you gotta live with it man no i!

GO LOOK AT WHO HE’S DEFEATED!!!!!! THERE’S NO ONE LEFT TO FIGHT!!!! He’s crushed everyone! Not signing with the UFC, with everything that I heard from here (mmamania.com) I DON’T BLAME HIM! You’re hating on one of the sports finest pound-for-pound mma fighter of all time! And a real class act too!

by evangelion27 on Dec 6, 2007 11:47 AM EST reply actions  

The worst news in MMA as far as I am concerned. I am a true MMA fan and I have always loved to watch Randy at work. I can watch his last two fights over and over. Sorry to see you go Randy, hope to see you fight again. Am looking forward to your movie though, not bad in the episode of “The Unit”.

by Bauer on Jan 4, 2008 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

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