UFC Quick Quote: Shogun on possible rematch with Quinton Rampage Jackson

But on the topic. I don’t care about Pride fights and Pride rules, with the Pride 10 minute 1st round. The UFC is a totally different place to fight, so what a fighter did in Pride is irrelevent. Just look at the fighters from there. Very few have lived up to what they did in Pride.

thats bull$hit forest just got jumped by shogun even after making him tap his last fight thats dana politics for you. i dont care how many wins he has in the ring this the octagon

Shogun needs to win a fight or two over here first.

thats bull$hit forest just got jumped by shogun even after making him tap his last fight thats dana politics for you. i dont care how many wins he has in the ring this the octagon

dude, relax. He was talking about a possible rematch with Quinton. Read the words….In the future, Not now.

IF and when this fight happens…. I will be there. I dont care what state or what country its in… I’ll be sure to be there.

Forrest didn’t get jumped for a title shot. Did you even read the article? It says although after losing to Forrest that rematch won’t happen for a while.

I will not jump to conclusions but Dana has his reputation to consider. I will be truely disappointed if Forest gets by-passed. Well see how Dana white treats forest.

i was well hyped up about his debut – but he let everyone down big time – he fought like a wimp out of breath. But i do hope he comes out with good cardio next time n at least gets a Ko over someone with a flying knee

IF and when this fight happens…. I will be there. I dont care what state or what country its in… I’ll be sure to be there.

Me too!

These are two of my favorite fighters. I would HAVE to see Rampage/Shogun.2 or Wandy/Rampage.3 live.(if they happen).

if shogun shows in the fight the way he has on the fight against griffin, rampage will eat him alive..

i think shoguns way down the pecking order.jardine/forrest r above him and so will alexander/silva if they win there respective fights.

IF RANDY DOESNT FIGHT BIG NOG ON SUPERBOWL WEEKEND THEN I HOPE ITS FORREST VS. RAMPAGE!!! Both fighters would be ready to fight again and it would be such a huge brawlin matchup. Whoever wins would still be loved too cause their both hilarious guys. If Forrest won though the UFC would blow up even more having the TUF 1 winner as a champion.

Very disappointed in Shogun to say the least. I was really excited about the guy. Thought he could own the 205 belt for a long time. He is only 26, so he’s got a lot of time get better and get a title shot. I hope he’s not a bust like Cro Cop.

IF RANDY DOESNT FIGHT BIG NOG ON SUPERBOWL WEEKEND THEN I HOPE ITS FORREST VS. RAMPAGE!!! Both fighters would be ready to fight again and it would be such a huge brawlin matchup. Whoever wins would still be loved too cause their both hilarious guys. If Forrest won though the UFC would blow up even more having the TUF 1 winner as a champion.

rampage is out till at least spring with a hand injury unless you know something i dont.

rampage is out till at least spring with a hand injury unless you know something i dont.

A hand injury that lasts until Spring? WTF?? Damn i thought if u shattered and broke your hand it only took 2 months at most to heal.

Is it just me or does Shogun have to win some fights and prove himself in the octagon before he even talks about a rematch with Rampage? "Life is funny, no? Quinton Jackson comes to UFC after three terrible defeats in PRIDE ([losing to] me [once] and Wanderlei twice). Now, he has the UFC belt. " That quote pissed me off big time, I mean does anyone else realize that he is badmouthing the competition in the UFC, beat Forrest before you talk shit about the UFC Shogun

and Wanderlei twice). Now, he has the UFC belt. " That quote pissed me off big time, I mean does anyone else realize that he is badmouthing the competition in the UFC, beat Forrest before you talk shit about the UFC Shogun

true said it doesnt matter what uve done in pride as soonas you step in the ufc the slates wiped clean.nothing theyve done in pride should carry weight. as for the rampage injury blame dan hendersons face for beating his fists up.thats one of the classest lines ive ever heard ha ha

and Wanderlei twice). Now, he has the UFC belt. " That quote pissed me off big time, I mean does anyone else realize that he is badmouthing the competition in the UFC, beat Forrest before you talk shit about the UFC Shogun

I dont think Shogun was “bad mouthing the competition in the UFC”. I think he was “bad mouthing” Rampage Jackson.

Shogun and Wanderlei both hate Rampage…

Me too!

These are two of my favorite fighters. I would HAVE to see Rampage/Shogun.2 or Wandy/Rampage.3 live.(if they happen).

Stagger lee: Im with you… I will travel anywhere to see shogun vs. Rampage 2, and wandy vs. Rampage 3. Rampage is a much better fighter now, and both shogun and wandy have recognized that. He will be very tough to beat. If I had to root for someone to dethrone Rampage, it would definetly be shogun.

A hand injury that lasts until Spring? WTF?? Damn i thought if u shattered and broke your hand it only took 2 months at most to heal.

out until spring? over a hand? Is anyone positive about this info? If so, do tell.

and Wanderlei twice). Now, he has the UFC belt. " That quote pissed me off big time, I mean does anyone else realize that he is badmouthing the competition in the UFC, beat Forrest before you talk shit about the UFC Shogun

Calm down buddy..who knows what the real translation was, shogun doesnt speak English. And Im the biggest Rampage fan there is but Shogun spoke the truth, Rampage was demolished by wanderlei and shogun. He put up a good fight both times against wanderlei, but got abused by shogun. It was a truthful statement. Rampage is light years better than he was back then, but Rampage has yet to prove that he can beat the Chute box elite.

Rampage is a different fighter than his Pride Days. No longer is he paying bums 50 dollars to spar with him. He is working hard with Juanito and I see him as Champ for awhile. So bring on Forrest, Wandy, Houston, it will be exciting brawls for all of us to watch.

hey whatever anyone does in pride it doesnt carry no weight as soon as they hit the ufc so you might aswell wipe the slate clean.shogun was raped by forest and as for rampage.he was training with amateurs and didnt even have a camp back then.with his awesome natural power and with jaunita polishing his boxing skills i dont think theres a lhw out there who can beat him at the moment.

Stagger lee: Im with you… I will travel anywhere to see shogun vs. Rampage 2, and wandy vs. Rampage 3. Rampage is a much better fighter now, and both shogun and wandy have recognized that. He will be very tough to beat. If I had to root for someone to dethrone Rampage, it would definetly be shogun.

I agree again john.

Wandy absolutly hates Rampage, and im sure him and Shogun watch every Rampage bout.
I honestly think that, Rampage thinks about Wandy all the time. Wandy puts a look in Rampage’s eye’s that people rarely see.(ever since wand/page.2)

I am a HUGE fan of all 3 of these fighters, but if I had to choose a winner it would be Rampage in either of the two bouts.
…But if I had to see Rampage “dethroned”?
I would also chose Shogun..

Calm down buddy..who knows what the real translation was, shogun doesnt speak English. And Im the biggest Rampage fan there is but Shogun spoke the truth, Rampage was demolished by wanderlei and shogun. He put up a good fight both times against wanderlei, but got abused by shogun. It was a truthful statement. Rampage is light years better than he was back then, but Rampage has yet to prove that he can beat the Chute box elite.

i agree with you except rampage was on a roll when he faced vandy maybe close to his best and vandy beat him in a hard fought war and i think vandy was at his best then and rampage could not beat him in to tries, and shougun destroyed him easily although rampage did not look like himself after the too loses to vandy, but he has bounced back from that. either way vandy or shougun will be a tough fight for him.

But on the topic. I don’t care about Pride fights and Pride rules, with the Pride 10 minute 1st round. The UFC is a totally different place to fight, so what a fighter did in Pride is irrelevent. Just look at the fighters from there. Very few have lived up to what they did in Pride.

True, but two of pride ex fighters hold 2 belts in the UFC. Chuck didnt want to return to Pride to fight again, because UFC president didnt want him to get Hurt.

i agree with you except rampage was on a roll when he faced vandy maybe close to his best and vandy beat him in a hard fought war and i think vandy was at his best then and rampage could not beat him in to tries, and shougun destroyed him easily although rampage did not look like himself after the too loses to vandy, but he has bounced back from that. either way vandy or shougun will be a tough fight for him.

I agree again john.

Wandy absolutly hates Rampage, and im sure him and Shogun watch every Rampage bout.
I honestly think that, Rampage thinks about Wandy all the time. Wandy puts a look in Rampage’s eye’s that people rarely see.(ever since wand/page.2)

I am a HUGE fan of all 3 of these fighters, but if I had to choose a winner it would be Rampage in either of the two bouts.
…But if I had to see Rampage “dethroned”?
I would also chose Shogun..

stagger lee: some people forget how close Rampage was to beating wanderlei. He had wandy rocked bad acouple times, wanderlei’s best asset in a fight is how quick he recovers. Rampage is dying to fight shogun and wandy. He said in an interview, now that I am champ, I want to fight the guys that whipped me, shogun and wanderlei. With Juanito in rampage’s corner… he will be extremely difficult to defeat. Also he has gained a whole new world of experience after going 25 minutes with Henderson. Rampage will be very tough to beat!!!!

i wanna see the pride ref in the ufc .. the one thats in the pictur.. i always love his smerk when fighter are touching gloves at the beginning of the fight.. bring back the ref cam and bring this ref..

ViolentMike: where the hell are you at today? Put down your work for a minute and come shine some light on the subject!

bring back the Pride announcer. get rid of bruce buffer. Im not talkiing about the woman announcer who screams like a witch, I am talking about the kool ass japanease dude, with the shades, and the mo hawk and the shinny suites. That dude was priceless!

bring back the Pride announcer. get rid of bruce buffer. Im not talkiing about the woman announcer who screams like a witch, I am talking about the kool ass japanease dude, with the shades, and the mo hawk and the shinny suites. That dude was priceless!

HELL YEAH!!! I DEFINATELY AGREE!!

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Shogun needs to win a fight or two over here first.

 or three

I didn’t like Shogun very much in Pride for some reason. Something about the attitude of Chute Box fighters, I dont like Wandi much either. It was hilarious when Mark Coleman and Phil Baroni beat the crap out of Shogun and Wandi, in their defense, Shogun had a broken arm, and Wandi had a giant foot on his neck, not much you can do with that.. hahaha.. Well Baroni didn’t do much, Coleman broke Shoguns arm, and Coleman was standing on Wandi’s neck. Baroni was just instigating..

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I think you need to read my argument again. I wasn’t saying that he was badmouthing Rampage cuz Wanderlei and Shogun crushed him. I was saying he is criticizing the UFC b/c he talks about how Rampage got whipped in pride 3 times then comes to the UFC and is the champ. Its called reading comprehension. Idiot

Rampage is a different fighter than his Pride Days. No longer is he paying bums 50 dollars to spar with him. He is working hard with Juanito and I see him as Champ for awhile. So bring on Forrest, Wandy, Houston, it will be exciting brawls for all of us to watch.

yep i agree

bring back the Pride announcer. get rid of bruce buffer. Im not talkiing about the woman announcer who screams like a witch, I am talking about the kool ass japanease dude, with the shades, and the mo hawk and the shinny suites. That dude was priceless!

Funny that you mention that because I was just watching some old Pridefc fights today, and I was thinking the same thing.

Dude looks like a pimp. I love the way he introduce’s the fighters! It gets me hyped up for the fights.

I didn’t like Shogun very much in Pride for some reason. Something about the attitude of Chute Box fighters, I dont like Wandi much either. It was hilarious when Mark Coleman and Phil Baroni beat the crap out of Shogun and Wandi, in their defense, Shogun had a broken arm, and Wandi had a giant foot on his neck, not much you can do with that.. hahaha.. Well Baroni didn’t do much, Coleman broke Shoguns arm, and Coleman was standing on Wandi’s neck. Baroni was just instigating..

yeah, i’d like to see wandy vs coleman one on one, you can’t tell me you seriously think coleman could beat wandy.

bring back the Pride announcer. get rid of bruce buffer. Im not talkiing about the woman announcer who screams like a witch, I am talking about the kool ass japanease dude, with the shades, and the mo hawk and the shinny suites. That dude was priceless!

HELL YEAH!!! I DEFINATELY AGREE!!

I actually really enjoyed the woman announcer, she was awesome.

Just look at the fighters from there. Very few have lived up to what they did in Pride.

I’m just so tired of everyone badmouthing pride fighters. I mean, I can only think of cro cop who is doing bad, everyone else is still doing good, even shogun (given the state he was at the time, injury marriege). I mean, who else is doing bad that is from pride aside from cro cop? Rampage got the belt, a. silva got the belt… whoever is saying that pride fighters come to the ufc to get beat should think again, name the fighters, you only have one name, and that’s cro cop, period!

PS: cro cop’s situation is the same as liddell’s, which is the same as rich franklin’s. Once everyone looked up to these fighters, and now we see continuos losses on all of them.

Does anyone have any theories as to why shogun looked so bad against griffin?, he was horrendous, I couldn’t believe it was the same guy. Maybe he was on roids in pride, something was different or the fact he couldn’t use some of his kicks he used so much in pride. I thought he would destroy griffin in the first no problem and give rampage a run for his money but if he fought rampage the way he fought griffin he wouldn’t make it out of the first round, no way.

True, but two of pride ex fighters hold 2 belts in the UFC. Chuck didnt want to return to Pride to fight again, because UFC president didnt want him to get Hurt.

In the ring I reckon Shogun would take the win over Rampage again. The cage is a different environment completely and that changes things hugely. I’d install Rampage as the fav in the octagon if I were a bookmaker. But who knows really what the outcome would be. That’s why we all want to see it right?

THe way i look at it, Shogun is two or three wins away from being considered.
Were i think there can only be ONE number one contender, and its not Shogun, Its the man who finished him
FORREST, vs RAMPAGE, fight of the year, wat a way the ufc could start 2008.

I’m just so tired of everyone badmouthing pride fighters. I mean, I can only think of cro cop who is doing bad, everyone else is still doing good, even shogun (given the state he was at the time, injury

marriege). I mean, who else is doing bad that is from pride aside from cro cop? Rampage got the belt, a. silva got the belt… whoever is saying that pride fighters come to the ufc to get beat should think again, name the fighters, you only have one name, and that’s cro cop, period!

PS: cro cop’s situation is the same as liddell’s, which is the same as rich franklin’s. Once everyone looked up to these fighters, and now we see continuos losses on all of them.

I agree…

I hate when people say that Pride fighters are doing bad when the only one who is def having trouble is CroCop…

Also Melendez (Pride) > Guida (UFC) = Strikeforce

I am assuming you are counting Anderson Silva as a Pride fighter. Based on this logic (if you want to call that logic) 2 of the Pride belts were held by a UFC guy, Dan Henderson. He fought at UFC 17 before going to Pride, didn’t he?

Wrong…Its all about where you made your name…

Wrong…Its all about where you made your name…

Not this inane crap again. It’s the fighters, not the promotion. And don’t judge a fighter by what he was 2 years ago, some fighters improve drastically within that time.

To make a football analogy, it’s kinda like a 2nd string QB from the Patriots got traded to some other team, let’s say the Redskins. He became the starter, and two years later ended up winning a superbowl and finishing the season as the best quarterback in the entire league. Then the Patriots fans all come in and say “Hey, he’s a former Patriots QB. Redskin quarterbacks must suck, they brought in a former Patriots back-up QB. This just proves how much greater Patriot quarterbacks are then the rest of the league. Go Pats!”

Shogun is still sore that my man Forrest choked him out.
I’d say Forrest may be next in line for the title shot. I know Jardine ko’d him and jardine beat chuck but Houston A.
Next fight for Jackson should be Griffin/jardine/silva if he beats Chuck any of the 3 I’m cool with.
Just get it going is all.
Also another loss for chute box this saturday coming up.

James C- “i dont care how many wins he has in the ring this the octagon”

Do you mean that this is the UFC, which is the most elite fighting organization and that is why Shogun has to prove himself in the UFC to be recognized as one of the world’s best fighters, or are you actually arguing that an octagonal cage is that much different than a ring. The cage is only a factor when you pin someone up against it, or put your back against it to defend takedowns. Of course you can lean your back on the ropes it’s just more difficult.

I’m really sick of both sides of the Pride vs. UFC argument, but the UFC loyalists are by far the more delusional of the two. People love to say that if a fighter is good, he’s in the UFC, which is absolute nonsense. Look at the middleweight division… the best are not in the UFC. The UFC’s most stacked divisions are Light Heavyweight and Welterweight, where they have a number of the best fighters, but are still missing a number of well-known guys who could potentially beat all the guys they have signed. And that will always be the case.

A hand injury that lasts until Spring? WTF?? Damn i thought if u shattered and broke your hand it only took 2 months at most to heal.

i love rampage, but anyone that can throw good knees has always been a bad stylistic matchup for him because he’s a punch ducker. im hoping that juanito will cure that when he eventually fights wandi or shogun.

as for shogun talking about how funney it is that rampage is champ after blah blah blah, i wouldnt take it to heart cause lots of things get lost in translation. plus, as lots of people have stated, he is at least 2 wins away from a title shot.

as for pride guys not performing well in ufc, i think a lot of them are performing well. 2 of the 4 ufc titles are held by past pride fighters in silva and rampage. i also think big nog did ok (not great)for his first fight in the cage. as for wandi, who has 2 losses in the cage, and shogun, i havent ruled out steroids yet. crocop . . .no comment, i think his heads not in the right place.

Shogun was on roids…When will people understand this.

Shogun was on roids…When will people understand this.

almost every fighter was on roids at some point, the ones that have never used roids are the few.

I will not jump to conclusions but Dana has his reputation to consider. I will be truely disappointed if Forest gets by-passed. Well see how Dana white treats forest.

First things first, nobody can compare pride fighters with ufc, it has been said before, different rules, shorter rounds.. entirely new fights, nobody cares what the did before. I ate chicken last night, will I eat it again tonight? No.

I actually agree with bust yo face to some degree, dana will be held accountable and does have a reputation to consider. With the recent bad press surrounded the UFC with the “resigning” of Couture, it would be in White’s best interest to follow some sort of logical order… (i.e.- forrest beats rua, forrest fights for title first)

keep in mind though, Jardine is now considered by many #1 contender in light heavy after his win over liddell… AND i might add holds a win over forrest. (im not a huge jardine fan.. but he’s earned his own)

List of Title Shots in Logical Order:

Rampage vs. Jardine

Rampage vs. Griffin

Rampage vs. (Winner of Evans/Bisping)

Rampage vs. Rua

Rampage vs. (Winner of Liddell/Silva)

Rampage vs. Alexander

Realistically:

Rampage vs. Rua

Rampage vs. (Winner of Liddell/Silva)

Rampage vs. Jardine

Rampage vs. Alexander

Rampage vs. Forrest

Rampage vs. (Winner of Evans/Bisping)

id like to see this fight happen.fan of both fighters but would definitely favor rampage in the rematch.

Shogun was on roids…When will people understand this.

I don’t think he ever looked like he was on ‘em but maybe. Look at Royce, he didn’t look suspect. Then again I reckon he started taking them when Matt Hughes beat the snot out of him. Anyone agree?

I don’t think he ever looked like he was on ‘em but maybe. Look at Royce, he didn’t look suspect. Then again I reckon he started taking them when Matt Hughes beat the snot out of him. Anyone agree?

By saying “life is funny” he’s talking about how ironic things can be. Where in pride he and Wandy were sitting on top as crowd favorites and seemingly unbeatable, Rampage was second tier, suffering decided losses from Shogun and Rampage. The situaion is now reversed—thus how ironic things can be. Especially given his loss to Griffin was sort of embarrassing (hands hanging down etc).

It’s sort of funny seeing how easily some of your biases can be goaded out.

Forrest is one of Dana’s Golden Boys… I’m sure he’ll treat Forrest right… for now…

out until spring? over a hand? Is anyone positive about this info? If so, do tell.

U guys need to think and pay very klose attention… The khute box guys are endosed by Worldsize… A kompany that’s makes and sells “ANDRO”… Look it up on the web!!!

Whats up with the UFC?? Jackson gets no respect and no fights since he beat Chuck the old man again. Is it just me or does Dana hate this guy. He is the best on pre fight interviews.

I think Rampage is a much, much better fighter now than he was over in Japan. He was just a body slam then ground and pound thug before. Now he appears to be more serious and seems to have a much better training camp. And making $500K a year doesn’t hurt either. Unless Shogun takes his game up to new highs, I would put my money on Rampage revenging his loss.

Shogun or Wanderlei might be the first fighters beaten to death in a UFC title bout.

Just some food for thought: GSP is 26. Most guys START their pro career at that age.

I meant Rua, of course (although GSP is also 26). But yes, something to think about for anybody saying Shogun is washed up.