I think Troy’s gonna take it cuz i like his tats.

[quote comment=“205905”]I think Troy’s gonna take it cuz i like his tats.

thats the dumbest thing i ever heard

That’s great, but Troy isn’t fighting tonight.

i like seeing hughes get all pissed off because his team dosent wanna fight

o rly?

yup not that i hate hughes but he does ahve a big ego and its finnaly being wxploited and messed with by serra

War machine by decision, or ref stoppage.

War Machine had him leaking in the first round, i really want him to run this guy over,

Thats the best fight i have seen so far on this show,

how did warmachine not win round 1 he dominated more than half the round

War got dominated in the 2nd. To bad I wanted to see the poor kid win.

War got dominated in the 2nd. To bad I wanted to see the poor kid win.

yea but dont u think he won the 1st he dominated more than half the round

how did warmachine not win round 1 he dominated more than half the round

He wasn’t dominating. He had dominate position, and a sub attempt, but Speers countered it, got his own dominant position and launched an unanswered GNP barrage. It really wasn’t that close.

He wasn’t dominating. He had dominate position, and a sub attempt, but Speers countered it, got his own dominant position and launched an unanswered GNP barrage. It really wasn’t that close.

All I want to know is how War Machine snuck that box cutter into the ring. I’ve seen more blood in a fight but I can’t think of it right now.
What if a fighter has AIDS or Hep-c? Cause if so War just took a bath in it.
I started this show rooting for Hughes. But right now I see Serra as the better guy coach and personally.

warmachine got that punch in the other guy was bleeding like a mofo and he had the sub and when there was like what 2 minutes left thats when the guy turned it around

One punch that wasn’t a knockdown and one failed sub attempt from the back for 2 minutes vs lots of GNP. It wasn’t that debatable, Speers took it.

Btw, I’m not going argue this with a guy that doesn’t use capital letters or punctuation, and uses phrases like “bleeding like a mofo”, so don’t expect another reply about this.

One punch that wasn’t a knockdown and one failed sub attempt from the back for 2 minutes vs lots of GNP. It wasn’t that debatable, Speers took it.

Btw, I’m not going argue this with a guy that doesn’t use capital letters or punctuation, and uses phrases like “bleeding like a mofo”, so don’t expect another reply about this.

I saw the first round as a wash. Speers dominated the second round. I actually agreed with the judges on this one. I was watching the clock in the first round and Speers got top position with about 2:40 left in the round.

but warmachine still got some decent shots from the bottom

One punch that wasn’t a knockdown and one failed sub attempt from the back for 2 minutes vs lots of GNP. It wasn’t that debatable, Speers took it.

Btw, I’m not going argue this with a guy that doesn’t use capital letters or punctuation, and uses phrases like “bleeding like a mofo”, so don’t expect another reply about this.

C’mon man, he makes some good points. And “bleeding like a mofo” is funny stuff. No need to get pissy.

War Machine is a nut

I still think the nickname “War Machine” is wayyyy too good n cool for a guy like jon. It kinda make ppl expect too much out of him

oh and what serra said about his mental problem. I totally agree , i think he’s immature. War Machine my ass, Washing Machine is better nickname for him

Tommy tapped, anyone else see it???

Yeah, I thought I saw him tap, too. I think you can even hear a few guys on the outside say “He tapped!” but the ref doesn’t stop it and it looks like Tommy decides he didn’t want to tap after all.

Seriously, Mazagatti (I do not care whether I spelled that correctly) sucks horribly. War Machine got his ass kicked for more than two minutes, eating huge blows from the mount, and the stupid-ass ref did nothing. It should have been stopped for sure. I can’t believe he was fine with War Machine turning to his side and covering up his head. Any other ref would have stopped it there, and rightfully so.

P.S. Anybody who thinks War Machine won round one is dead wrong. Sure, he landed one good shots and got Tommy in a RNC, but so what? He didn’t submit him (well, there may have been an unseen tap, but obviously he wasn’t down and out since he fought out of it) and Tommy basically destroyed him once he was able to get out of it.

I cant take any more boring fighters, please stop this tommy from fighting again. Yes he’s a tough guy, but there are a lot of tough guys out there who can win a battle of attrition. I want to see real fighters with skill.

War got dominated in the 2nd. To bad I wanted to see the poor kid win.

Yeah, he’s one of those fighter’s you feel for, kid has lost a lot in his life and MMA is the only thing he has to look forward to at this point. I hope he keeps it together no matter what happens in MMA, I’ll definitely be watching his progress… War Machine hung in there tougher than anyone and he did shoot his wad on that choke hold. Only one guy that might have fought tougher than War Mach… Tommy who got hit flush, cut then somehow willed his way out of a chokehold, lotsa’ MMA veterans would have croaked. BEST Fight!!!

Looks like Hughes finally had to wade through the haystack to finally find his mini me in Tommy.

LOL.. Serra was really bagging on Hughes this episode, but that Hughes impersonation was hilarious!

C’mon man, he makes some good points. And “bleeding like a mofo” is funny stuff. No need to get pissy.

yo’ michael mofo… do i have ta submit mi ba diploma before i git’ a responz?

Hughes may be a douche bag, but Tommy clearly won this fight. Serra’s obsessive remarks about Hughes are making me think that he is a little summers eve himself with a not so fresh feeling. Anyway Serra is a better coach, but I think Hughes is going to kick his ass.

Tommy tapped at 4:03.. no question about it. BS win. Shitty reffing.

I thought War deserved the first round, especially considering Tommy tapped.

But oh well, who wants to see a fucking guy who calls himself “war machine” win anyway?

I woulda liked 2 see a 3rd round. i wanted 2 see war machine win damnet. stupid strong hick

does anyone have a vid of him tapping? I didn’t see it but yea.

who was reffing ? i aint seen the episode but this tap thing sounds really interesting, cant wait to see it!

Yeah, it definitely looked like he tapped. It was a really quick tap, but he still tapped.

Pretty good fight, had to root for War Machine after seeing/hearing him get all emotional. Horrible idea to go for those leg kicks in the 2nd round though, I figured he should try his best to keep it on the feet and throw hands. Oh well. And BTW, that was an americana Speer had him in, not a kimura.

It was a ok fight, lets not pump it up more than it deserves.

The decision was correct, Tom won.

Tom is just too dominant on the ground, wm did have moments of potential during the fight even in the second rnd. There were opportunities open at various points.

It would be crooked if hughs two guys had to fight in quarters. I agree that serra should be able to pick who fights but they should have to put hughs guys on each end of the ladder. So if they do win they wont meet till finals.

I would like to see ben vs tom.
The australian George vs Mac.

ya i thought i saw him tap too. tommy was dominating position wise, but his ground and pound was not very impressive. in my opinion if you have a guy mounted for more than a minute, and dont stop him, you just plain arent hitting hard enough. okami v swick is a very good example of what i mean. teach tommy to be vicious and he may be a threat, but i see him getting submitted or possibly ko’d in the quarters.

All I want to know is how War Machine snuck that box cutter into the ring. I’ve seen more blood in a fight but I can’t think of it right now.
What if a fighter has AIDS or Hep-c? Cause if so War just took a bath in it.
I started this show rooting for Hughes. But right now I see Serra as the better guy coach and personally.

back in the vale tudo days in brazil ppl had to have blood tests prior to a fight to make sure they didn’t have any diseases that could infect someone else by blood swap. I’m pretty sure the UFC does it as well, since it’s a mainstream organization.

speer def tapped

“Todd
Nov 8th, 2007 at 3:19 am Quote this comment
Tommy tapped at 4:03.. no question about it. BS win. Shitty reffing. "

I vividly recall exactly what your are talking about Todd. After watching it 9 times, I’ve come to the conclusion that he was looking to pry one of War Machine’s hands off but was so gassed that he couldn’t reach either. As a result it appears he taps (twice). In any event, it was not a submission due to tap out. It turned out to be a nice scrap and Im excited for the quater finals.

P.S. What a ball bag Serra has to be to totally try and humiliate Matt Hughes by trying to pit Danzig and Speer together in their respective quater final match up. Ya think the guy could be any less classless ?

Serra : I want to wipe out Team Hughes

Guy give me a break you went 6-2 during prelims.

Mac Danzig will take it home !

I still think the nickname “War Machine” is wayyyy too good n cool for a guy like jon. It kinda make ppl expect too much out of him

Yeah, but it’s after a bad ‘Iron Man’ character.

Anyone else get tired of those damn J-Lo commercials? Christ, I’d rather fight in the octagon with my hands tied behind my back than hear that crap again!

Hughes won the first and last match..Serra wants for Mac and Tommy to square up..( he controls the qtr final match ups..per dans )..next week looks to be good.

i love how mazagatti trys to be like “big” jon lol he sounds retarded “bring it on c’mon” lol

I wonder after the qtr’s is there a bracket already in place where we will know who will fight who if they win and go on to the semi’s..Or will dana/coaches decide after the qtr’s are done.

qtr final match ups..

mac danzig vs troy mandalinoz
john kolosci vs richie hightower
ben saunders vs george sotiropoulos
tommy speer vs matt arroyo

Semi’s could be…

mac danzig vs matt arroyo

george sotiropoulos vs john kolosci

Finals..I would like to see..

mac danzig vs george sotiropoulos

speer def tapped

He totally tapped!

yea but dont u think he won the 1st he dominated more than half the round

No he definetly dominated the first round, and very well at that!

Tommy tapped at 4:03.. no question about it. BS win. Shitty reffing.

That was my gripe. He tapped, hell my wife even noticed him tap. I do not know how the fight ended up continuing. Someone watching on the show noticed and shouts out. IT is at that point, where the table starts to turn a bit. That suck I wanted war to win. I like the guys that have nothing to loose, they fight so much more differently. Does anyone wonder why they did not stand them up in the second. There is one point where
Tommy just lays there, for 30 or 40 seconds doing absolutely nothing. half of his elbows he throws do not even land a target. I think he Tommy won the second, and he gotsome of the first but that was mos def a give me for Hughes. Not standing them up, continuing after the tap. Ahh oh well I guess the sun has got to shine for everyone once in a while…

Anyone else get tired of those damn J-Lo commercials? Christ, I’d rather fight in the octagon with my hands tied behind my back than hear that crap again!

HAHA Yeah I hate that

Farm Boy tapped. And he’s going to have to fight Mac next. Serra is going to guarantee that at least one of his guys makes it to the final.

No he definetly dominated the first round, and very well at that!

I feel the first round..could of easily been a split round..or a draw..jon won the first half..tommy the second..but Tommy did alot of damage from the top position..that just continued thru the second round.

I DON’T KNOW IF I’M THE ONLY ONE THAT REALIZED IT OR NOT, BUT IF ANY OF YOU TIVO’D IT, GO BACK AND WATCH THE FIRST ROUND. WHEN THE CHOKE IS SUNK IN AND THEY DROP TO THE MAT, OL “FARMER’S STRENGTH” TAPPED OUT. YOU CAN EVEN HEAR WAR MACHINE SAY “HE TAPPED, HE TAPPED.” I GIVE PROPS TO TOMMY FOR MAKING IT THE BEST FIGHT OF THE SEASON (YES EVEN BETTER THAN DAN’S FIGHT), BUT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE ALL THE OTHER FIGHTS AND ENDED A COUPLE MINUTES INTO ROUND ONE WITH ANOTHER VICTORY FOR SERRA’S TEAM. AND BEFORE THE QUESTIONS ARE ASKED IF I’M BIAS TO SERRA AND HIS TEAM, GSP IS MY FAVORITE FIGHTER, SO I HATE SERRA. JUST WATCH THE FIGHT AGAIN ON TIVO OR WHEN IT’S REPLAYED AND YOU’LL SEE FOR YOURSELF. PEACE

Anyone else get tired of those damn J-Lo commercials? Christ, I’d rather fight in the octagon with my hands tied behind my back than hear that crap again!

That’s why they invented the mute button. I don’t mind watching her shake it, as long as I don’t have to listen to that gay-ass music… if you can call it that.

“Todd
Nov 8th, 2007 at 3:19 am Quote this comment
Tommy tapped at 4:03.. no question about it. BS win. Shitty reffing. "

I vividly recall exactly what your are talking about Todd. After watching it 9 times, I’ve come to the conclusion that he was looking to pry one of War Machine’s hands off but was so gassed that he couldn’t reach either. As a result it appears he taps (twice). In any event, it was not a submission due to tap out. It turned out to be a nice scrap and Im excited for the quater finals.

P.S. What a ball bag Serra has to be to totally try and humiliate Matt Hughes by trying to pit Danzig and Speer together in their respective quater final match up. Ya think the guy could be any less classless ?

Serra : I want to wipe out Team Hughes

Guy give me a break you went 6-2 during prelims.

Mac Danzig will take it home !

I recall Hughes pitting Mac Danzig against Joe Scarola for the sole purpose of him being from Matt Serras camp.

It’s funny that Serra knew what the first few matchups were gonna be based on how Hughes could be an ass. And yet you call Serra out?

I do agree however that the finals are going to be Danzig and George. Unless they fight in the semi’s, which I doubt Dana would allow. I watched some of Mac’s fights last night, he is a decent striker and has some good GnP. Will be a good fight.

I hope they let Serra put Hughes guys against each other, that would put Hughes over the edge.

HAHA Yeah I hate that

Come on, even you Serra loverboy’s have to admit, He (Serra) is obsessed with Hughes way too much. Yeah it’s a competition and Hughes is wrapped up in it too much as well. However,I think Serra probably talks in his sleep, saying “Hughes is a dick, Hughes is dick”. and in that overplayed tough guy accent. I think Serra may actually be in love with Hughes or something, you know one of those if I can’t have him nobody will things. Is Serra married, or does he have a girlfriend, jeez quit talking about Hughe’s dick.

I recall Hughes pitting Mac Danzig against Joe Scarola for the sole purpose of him being from Matt Serras camp.

It’s funny that Serra knew what the first few matchups were gonna be based on how Hughes could be an ass. And yet you call Serra out?

I do agree however that the finals are going to be Danzig and George. Unless they fight in the semi’s, which I doubt Dana would allow. I watched some of Mac’s fights last night, he is a decent striker and has some good GnP. Will be a good fight.

I hope they let Serra put Hughes guys against each other, that would put Hughes over the edge.

..If dana says Serra has total control of the qtr final match ups..that means Serra can do what he wants with the match ups..even if its not fair..Dana said the coach with the most wins has TOTAL CONTROL..but we are talking about dana here..right.

Is it me or does Serra sound exactly like Ken Shamrock did the third season. Shamrock was obsessed with beating Ortiz. Ortiz seemed to care more about the fighters on his team winning and losing. Serra seems to care more about beating Hughes then anything else.

Serra can revel in his TUF six achievments until December 29th. He’s going to come crashing down to earth after Hughes destroys him.

“RearNakedSlam
I recall Hughes pitting Mac Danzig against Joe Scarola for the sole purpose of him being from Matt Serras camp.”

Lol. If I can recall, Joe Scarola was a huge fag. Hughes not only placed Danzig against Scarola because he was Serra’s boy, but because he was obviously one of the smaller guys on the show, and the weakest link hands down. Hughes would not place his # 1 pick Mac Danzig in harm’s way and as a result Scarola was picked as the sacrificial LAMB.

Furthermore Serra is going a lil overboard for the cameras with his Hughes comments. Yucking it up for the limelight.

Dana’s “ultimatum” as we saw at the closing of the show last night is OBVIOUSLY him telling Matt Serra not to be an ass clown and HE CANNOT HAVE MAC DANZIG FIGHT TOMMY SPEER. Thus he is forced to choose which one of his guys is going to get laid to rest my Danzig.

I’m a big Serra fan, but I think to try to pit Hughes’ last two fighters against each other in first quarter finals would be a bush-league move.

Is it me or does Serra sound exactly like Ken Shamrock did the third season. Shamrock was obsessed with beating Ortiz. Ortiz seemed to care more about the fighters on his team winning and losing. Serra seems to care more about beating Hughes then anything else.

Serra can revel in his TUF six achievments until December 29th. He’s going to come crashing down to earth after Hughes destroys him.

Exactly, He sounds like evry kid before a school yard fight when he knows he’s about to get a beat down.

I’m a big Serra fan, but I think to try to pit Hughes’ last two fighters against each other in first quarter finals would be a bush-league move.

Not to mention, how does that make the two team Serra fighters that have to fight each other first. It’s like Sera’s saying I know one of you guys are’nt good enough to make the finals so get in there and lose one for me.

Is it me or does Serra sound exactly like Ken Shamrock did the third season. Shamrock was obsessed with beating Ortiz. Ortiz seemed to care more about the fighters on his team winning and losing. Serra seems to care more about beating Hughes then anything else.

Serra can revel in his TUF six achievments until December 29th. He’s going to come crashing down to earth after Hughes destroys him.

Its funny you say that..cuz hughes seems to of taken a personal shot to his ego with a 6-2 record in favor of Serra.

Hughes to seems to want as much as Serra to have his guy(s) in the finale..Serra seems to be a better coach thru this season..This seasons Shamrock is Hughes..I hear Hughes name being shouted out more than anyone else’s on Team Hughes (1.2.3 HUGHES) com’on man..at least Serra..switches it up.

FarmBoy Strenghth: “Lifting horses, knocking out cows” hahahahhahahahahahhahahaha

Its funny you say that..cuz hughes seems to of taken a personal shot to his ego with a 6-2 record in favor of Serra.

Hughes to seems to want as much as Serra to have his guy(s) in the finale..Serra seems to be a better coach thru this season..This seasons Shamrock is Hughes..I hear Hughes name being shouted out more than anyone else’s on Team Hughes (1.2.3 HUGHES) com’on man..at least Serra..switches it up.

That’s exaxtly the point. Team Serra is trouncing Hughes and Serra still acts like he has to prove himself. It’s getting kind of old. However, Hughes has been a mediocre coach this season, I’ll give you that.

The fight with War Machine was BULLSHIT!!!! War Machine made the Tommy obviously tap out when he was in the head lock within the first 2min. i can’t beleave that no one is saying anything about it. It takes all the fun out of watching a fight when some one should have one via stoppage, but the fight is not stopped, then he (War Machine) get ponded for 6 min. thats fking bullshit guys!!!! and everyone knows it. Tommy tapped, and for that to be missed is blatent negligence on the part of the UFC.

That’s the point, Team Serra is trouncing Hughes and Serra yet, he still acts like he has to prove something. He’s like that guy in school that wasn’t happy just hating a guy, he had to convince everyone else to hate him as well. It’s getting kind of stale. Serra’s doing a good job as a coach. If he would separate himself from the highschool chick drama I’d enjoy watching a lot more, and once again, STOP TALKING ABOUT MATT HUGHES DICK!

Thanks Linx it seems obvious that they would test but you never hear of a fighter getting kicked out due to a disease.

I saw what might have been a tap. But if someone is really tapping due to a choke you know it. Just cause your hand hits the guy two times it’s not exactly a tap. I’m sure fighters would rather get choked out than have a false tap end the fight.
A judgment call on the refs part. Like Ben! said the ref should have stopped the fight when WM was getting hit over and over and not defending.

That’s why they invented the mute button. I don’t mind watching her shake it, as long as I don’t have to listen to that gay-ass music… if you can call it that.

Its funny you say that..cuz hughes seems to of taken a personal shot to his ego with a 6-2 record in favor of Serra.

Hughes to seems to want as much as Serra to have his guy(s) in the finale..Serra seems to be a better coach thru this season..This seasons Shamrock is Hughes..I hear Hughes name being shouted out more than anyone else’s on Team Hughes (1.2.3 HUGHES) com’on man..at least Serra..switches it up.

You’re right. Hughes’ huge ego is taking a hit. Him bitching about his guys not listening and threatening to quit last week shows that he’s more concerned with beating Serra.

I guess they’re both annoying. Serra seems like a better coach too. But his smug attitude is really annoying. Oh well, Hughes is still going to destroy Serra on dec. 29.

whats everyones obsession over danzig? i seen one fight where he got ktfo bad, granted it was one fight but still suspect chin maybe?

At this point in the tournament the fighters should be seeded 1-8 based on their performance in the fights and practices. That way we as the fans would see the best matchups and the most entertaining fights and the possibility for the best 2 fighters ending up in the finals. Right now Mac would be the #1 George #2 and Tommy #3 the rest who knows none were too impressive.

At this point in the tournament the fighters should be seeded 1-8 based on their performance in the fights and practices. That way we as the fans would see the best matchups and the most entertaining fights and the possibility for the best 2 fighters ending up in the finals. Right now Mac would be the #1 George #2 and Tommy #3 the rest who knows none were too impressive.

1.Mac
2.George
3.Tommy
4.Ben
5.Matt
6.Troy
7.John
8.Richie

1.Mac vs 8.Richie (Mac would love this match up)

2.George vs 7.John

3.Tommy vs 6.Troy

4.Ben vs 5.Matt

1/8 winner vs 4/5 winner

2/7 winner vs 3/4 winner

I DON’T KNOW IF I’M THE ONLY ONE THAT REALIZED IT OR NOT, BUT IF ANY OF YOU TIVO’D IT, GO BACK AND WATCH THE FIRST ROUND. WHEN THE CHOKE IS SUNK IN AND THEY DROP TO THE MAT, OL “FARMER’S STRENGTH” TAPPED OUT. YOU CAN EVEN HEAR WAR MACHINE SAY “HE TAPPED, HE TAPPED.” I GIVE PROPS TO TOMMY FOR MAKING IT THE BEST FIGHT OF THE SEASON (YES EVEN BETTER THAN DAN’S FIGHT), BUT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE ALL THE OTHER FIGHTS AND ENDED A COUPLE MINUTES INTO ROUND ONE WITH ANOTHER VICTORY FOR SERRA’S TEAM. AND BEFORE THE QUESTIONS ARE ASKED IF I’M BIAS TO SERRA AND HIS TEAM, GSP IS MY FAVORITE FIGHTER, SO I HATE SERRA. JUST WATCH THE FIGHT AGAIN ON TIVO OR WHEN IT’S REPLAYED AND YOU’LL SEE FOR YOURSELF. PEACE

When someone is tapping, they rapidly tap over and over until they are let out of the position, when someone misses when attempting to get out of a rnc it often looks like a tap.
IMO he was not tapping, and I have watched it a couple of times.

The fight with War Machine was BULLSHIT!!!! War Machine made the Tommy obviously tap out when he was in the head lock within the first 2min. i can’t beleave that no one is saying anything about it. It takes all the fun out of watching a fight when some one should have one via stoppage, but the fight is not stopped, then he (War Machine) get ponded for 6 min. thats fking bullshit guys!!!! and everyone knows it. Tommy tapped, and for that to be missed is blatent negligence on the part of the UFC.

The better fighter clearly won the fight. WM needed GPS just to get back to Serra at the end of round 1. When these relatively inexperienced guys tap, they generally do it in a panicked manner that makes it obvious they want out. Speer didn’t submit.

I am seeing a pattern where the guys who cry the most before their fights lose. Blake, J-Roc, and War Machine all cried before they fought. I can’t remember if Dorian did, but he seems like a likely candidate to have done so.

I wonder after the qtr’s is there a bracket already in place where we will know who will fight who if they win and go on to the semi’s..Or will dana/coaches decide after the qtr’s are done.

qtr final match ups..

mac danzig vs troy mandalinoz
john kolosci vs richie hightower
ben saunders vs george sotiropoulos
tommy speer vs matt arroyo

Semi’s could be…

mac danzig vs matt arroyo

george sotiropoulos vs john kolosci

Finals..I would like to see..

mac danzig vs george sotiropoulos

Do you think he will pit Kolosci and Hightower against each other? I think they are two of the weaker guys that made the 2nd round. I like the Danzig/Troy matchup. If I’m Serra and dana says mac and Tommy can’t fight this round, here’s what i would do:

Mac vs. Troy
George vs. Richie
Ben vs. Kolosci
Tommy vs. Matt

Another option is to have George fight Tommy, because George is better on the ground than Matt. If you go that route, then Richie fights Ben.

Mac vs Farmboy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with the judges on this one, yes war machine was choking out tommy but he DIDN’T tap like some are saying, I know what tapping looks like and I didn’t see it. Tommy defended the choke well and war machine didn’t defend the barrage from the top very well to me, tommy was clearly dominating this fight and he defended the choke well, over all he controlled the fight so I have no problem with the decision. Serra is getting more personal all the time and mimicking hughes in his gsp fight and saying hughes looks like a chimpanzee and making chimp faces is hitting below the belt. He’s making it harder for me to like him, and it will be that much more satisfying when hughes pounds him out come dec 29.

JLO is a nasty piece of work, and thats not a complement.

I get so sick of listening to her, and even looking at her.

Shes just yuckky, really now if jessica alba could just sing…

The BK commercial is ok. Maybe in a couple of weeks it will lose its edge. I like it when she says … take your time. Ha ah

only two people can make it to the finals and only one person can win it. So I guess we are gonna just have to see if Serra puts the two hughs fighters in the same side bracket wise… That should be a given, the guys team did win 2/3 of the fights. Lets not water down the point of trying to make a team win. Or you would just need to pick the top 2 and forget the rest.

Serra is going to look sooooooo stupid when hughes beats him down come dec 29, he should shut his mouth while he’s ahead.

Top 4 fighters are…

In-order
Ben
George
Mac
Tom

Maybe I am wrong but I think thats how it truly is.

Its funny you say that..cuz hughes seems to of taken a personal shot to his ego with a 6-2 record in favor of Serra.

Hughes to seems to want as much as Serra to have his guy(s) in the finale..Serra seems to be a better coach thru this season..This seasons Shamrock is Hughes..I hear Hughes name being shouted out more than anyone else’s on Team Hughes (1.2.3 HUGHES) com’on man..at least Serra..switches it up.

I thought the same thing when reading that initial comment. Hughes is he one obsessed with defeating Team Serra to the point where he doesn’t even care about his fighters. They are just insignificant soldiers in his war against Serra. Before the fight in last night episode, they show Matt Hughes and he says something to the effect of “I have to win this fight. This is a big fight for me.” The way he said it, he was talking as if he himself was fighting. BUT then again, Serra is obsessed with Matt Hughes and associating the word ‘dick’ to him. What in the world is that all about? Is that some kind of Long Island Strong Island thing?

Serra’s impression of Hughes was absolutely priceless. I must have rewinded it like 10 times when I saw his initial impression with the squinty eyes, confused eyebrows, and arms crossing. Then to my delight, the impression continued. Hysterical.

I believe George is the most well-rounded fighter on the show and will win the whole thing now that my boy (war-machine) is out. In regards to last nights fight, war-machine is a tough dude, but he’s a headcase and i think that proved to be the deciding factor in the fight. Tommy didnt really do that much damage from the top and the only thing that really impressed me was his transitions and the way he passed war’s guard. Give war a couple of years and i think he could become a pretty decent ufc fighter just because of his determination, all he has to do is mature. And for anyone that doesnt believe tommy tapped, he definitely did, but it wasnt a full-blown “im out” tap, it was more like “Damn this choke is deep I wanna… nevermind” tap.

That’s exaxtly the point. Team Serra is trouncing Hughes and Serra still acts like he has to prove himself. It’s getting kind of old. However, Hughes has been a mediocre coach this season, I’ll give you that.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=675687

There’s a gif image of tommy tapping about halfway down the page

both those fighters sucked; I leave the finals down to the Australian-Greek guy or that faggot Danzig

By the way, I’m sick of hearing every fighters trumped up reasons for having to win a fight. No dis-respect to “War Machine’s” hardships but you need to win the fight because THAT’S YOUR JOB! Spare me the “other guy doesn’t need this as bad as I do” speech. Just Fight!

both those fighters sucked; I leave the finals down to the Australian-Greek guy or that faggot Danzig

I think dana will use George as his ufc poster boy for the continent Oceanio.

he didn’t tap and that gif proves it. he’s reaching for the elbow. he finds it with the first little touch and then gets his whole hand on the elbow. fighters who tap make it very obvious.

hughes may be arrogant, but serra is a petty little girl with a crush on hughes. let’s just call him “sarah”.

btw War Machine is fighting on the finale card against an un-released opponent… has to be someone in the quarterfinals right?

he didn’t tap and that gif proves it. he’s reaching for the elbow. he finds it with the first little touch and then gets his whole hand on the elbow. fighters who tap make it very obvious.

hughes may be arrogant, but serra is a petty little girl with a crush on hughes. let’s just call him “sarah”.

  LOL nice, I’ll buy that.

Looking back on that episode, I think my favorite part was when J-Roc was clowning Tommy. Dude cries 3 times on the episode, freezes in the octagon, and nearly gets decapitated by a tree branch, but he clowns Tommy who wound up winning a fight. Same with Billy. War machines choke was in way deeper than Kolosci’s and for a lot longer, but Tommy fought out of it instead of instantly tapping.

Tommy tapped at 4:03.. no question about it. BS win. Shitty reffing.

Tommy Tapped… wow I didn’t see that… have to look for it again on re-runs.

Serra is going to enrage hughes and pay for it with a broken arm. I doubt hughes will give serra the same curtesy he gave royce and actually break his arm, I’m calling it now.

Pretty good fight, had to root for War Machine after seeing/hearing him get all emotional. Horrible idea to go for those leg kicks in the 2nd round though, I figured he should try his best to keep it on the feet and throw hands. Oh well. And BTW, that was an americana Speer had him in, not a kimura.

I thought it was a bad idea as well to throw leg kicks, but after the fight WM said he blew his wade on the choke… so I can see where he lost his composure and threw a leg kick… if he had to do it all over again, I’d bet he’d take his chances throwing punches instead.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=675687

There’s a gif image of tommy tapping about halfway down the page

     not tapping, the ref was right there watching I saw it and I wouldn’t call it tapping.

I DON’T KNOW IF I’M THE ONLY ONE THAT REALIZED IT OR NOT, BUT IF ANY OF YOU TIVO’D IT, GO BACK AND WATCH THE FIRST ROUND. WHEN THE CHOKE IS SUNK IN AND THEY DROP TO THE MAT, OL “FARMER’S STRENGTH” TAPPED OUT. YOU CAN EVEN HEAR WAR MACHINE SAY “HE TAPPED, HE TAPPED.” I GIVE PROPS TO TOMMY FOR MAKING IT THE BEST FIGHT OF THE SEASON (YES EVEN BETTER THAN DAN’S FIGHT), BUT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE ALL THE OTHER FIGHTS AND ENDED A COUPLE MINUTES INTO ROUND ONE WITH ANOTHER VICTORY FOR SERRA’S TEAM. AND BEFORE THE QUESTIONS ARE ASKED IF I’M BIAS TO SERRA AND HIS TEAM, GSP IS MY FAVORITE FIGHTER, SO I HATE SERRA. JUST WATCH THE FIGHT AGAIN ON TIVO OR WHEN IT’S REPLAYED AND YOU’LL SEE FOR YOURSELF. PEACE

I hope it’s brought up in next weeks show… Dana should give WM 5k…

The better fighter clearly won the fight. WM needed GPS just to get back to Serra at the end of round 1. When these relatively inexperienced guys tap, they generally do it in a panicked manner that makes it obvious they want out. Speer didn’t submit.

I am seeing a pattern where the guys who cry the most before their fights lose. Blake, J-Roc, and War Machine all cried before they fought. I can’t remember if Dorian did, but he seems like a likely candidate to have done so.

Seems like there’s a lot more going on in there head than needs to be…they’re not as focused, underconfident and much too nervous, nerves is a killer on energy.

I agree with the judges on this one, yes war machine was choking out tommy but he DIDN’T tap like some are saying, I know what tapping looks like and I didn’t see it. Tommy defended the choke well and war machine didn’t defend the barrage from the top very well to me, tommy was clearly dominating this fight and he defended the choke well, over all he controlled the fight so I have no problem with the decision. Serra is getting more personal all the time and mimicking hughes in his gsp fight and saying hughes looks like a chimpanzee and making chimp faces is hitting below the belt. He’s making it harder for me to like him, and it will be that much more satisfying when hughes pounds him out come dec 29.

Serra has made this extremely personal, I don’t know if Hughes even enjoys watching the TUF seris. Serra might be gettin into Hughes psych.. either’s it’s going to work for Serra in the fight or Hughes is going to be twice as determined to beat the hell out of Serra.

I am seeing a pattern where the guys who cry the most before their fights lose. Blake, J-Roc, and War Machine all cried before they fought. I can’t remember if Dorian did, but he seems like a likely candidate to have done so.

Troy literally cried ane KO’d his opponent

Hughes needs to teach speers how to throw effective shots from the top position they were complete arm punches with no power that fight would have been stopped if he was able to swing power into those shots

that was not a tapp, the only bullshit fight where a fighter tapps and still goes onto win was Groove vs Herman groove definately tapped due to triangle choke Herman was robbed out of being the TUF season winner

That’s not a tap. He’s reaching and misses.

War Machine was terrible.

Speers needs some cardio. For all his talk of being in farm shape, he would have finished WM easily if he’d had any gas left at all.

Hughes needs to teach speers how to throw effective shots from the top position they were complete arm punches with no power that fight would have been stopped if he was able to swing power into those shots

I saw that. I think part of his problem was that he was pretty well gassed from surviving that choke attempt.

Here is another stupid newbie question for you all: Is there any kind of treatment that fighters might use to increase the elasticity on the skin in their face? I see some fighters get hit 30 times and have no cuts and like with Speer he gets cut like a pig first shot. I remember Oleg Taktarov had that problem. The guy was tough as nails but his face was made of tissue paper. Back then you would see a ref stop a fight due to bleeding. Now I guess that is out. Or Speer would have lost that shit.

That’s why they invented the mute button. I don’t mind watching her shake it, as long as I don’t have to listen to that gay-ass music… if you can call it that.

Troy literally cried ane KO’d his opponent

I think Dorian cried after, I don’t remember Blake crying. As for Serra’s team the only guys that lost we’re guys who doubted themselves the most.

Tommy tapped, anyone else see it???

 definately saw it again

Tommy tapped, anyone else see it???

My son saw the tap and I argued with him about it at the time, but now I wonder about it too. I am sure Tommy must have hesitated, thinking he would get more than “bitch slapped” by coach Hughes if he did. If it was a tap and then a hesitation, it saved him more than just losing the match: imagine what Hughes would do to someone he identifies with so strongly if he used to beat up his brother behind the barn?

Serra is the better coach by far. I can not imagine having a son under Hughes’ tutelage the way he punishes/prepares his fighters—how many of his fighters were injured during the show just by the coaches on Team Hughes?

I love Serra’s sense of humor and that he speaks his mind.

Thats the best fight i have seen so far on this show,

What?? Dan Vs Ben?

definately saw it again

I think he definately went to tap but then just changed his mind at the last second, which was the right choice because he didn’t pass out and turned it around

Hughes is a like pompous power crazed bully boss at your office, who belittles people by mockery and mind games. Still, he can back up what he says. Though I really dislike Hughes, i strongly agree with what he says about Serra. He isn’t really ranked in the top ten, and GSP would bitch slap him 9/10 times. But heh I hope Serra does match up Tom and Mac, that way, Hughes will pop a vessel. I feel bad for WM, still i hope he learns from his loss and comes back. I think Serra’s gona get an ass whoopin from an extremely pissed and agitated Hughes come december. He’l probably blow Serra away with the steam that comes off of his head.

Hughes is a like pompous power crazed bully boss at your office, who belittles people by mockery and mind games. Still, he can back up what he says. Though I really dislike Hughes, i strongly agree with what he says about Serra. He isn’t really ranked in the top ten, and GSP would bitch slap him 9/10 times. But heh I hope Serra does match up Tom and Mac, that way, Hughes will pop a vessel. I feel bad for WM, still i hope he learns from his loss and comes back. I think Serra’s gona get an ass whoopin from an extremely pissed and agitated Hughes come december. He’l probably blow Serra away with the steam that comes off of his head.

Personally, I think Hughes will blow himself away, and Serra will laugh so hard he’ll collapse like WM after his fight. It can be very dangerous to under-rate an opponent like Matt Serra; often big surprizes come in small packages—like diamonds IMO. I can’t wait for Dec. 29 to see it happen!

My son saw the tap and I argued with him about it at the time, but now I wonder about it too. I am sure Tommy must have hesitated, thinking he would get more than “bitch slapped” by coach Hughes if he did. If it was a tap and then a hesitation, it saved him more than just losing the match: imagine what Hughes would do to someone he identifies with so strongly if he used to beat up his brother behind the barn?

Serra is the better coach by far. I can not imagine having a son under Hughes’ tutelage the way he punishes/prepares his fighters—how many of his fighters were injured during the show just by the coaches on Team Hughes?

I love Serra’s sense of humor and that he speaks his mind.

Someone should tell Hughes ’prolonged punishment prevents positive potential

Personally, I think Hughes will blow himself away, and Serra will laugh so hard he’ll collapse like WM after his fight. It can be very dangerous to under-rate an opponent like Matt Serra; often big surprizes come in small packages—like diamonds IMO. I can’t wait for Dec. 29 to see it happen!

LOL sorry to bring you back to reality but serra’s going to get put in his place and lose his title.

Its a wild guess but i guess the next episode will see Hughes do everything in his power and use whatever leverage he can to ensure that his boys dont get matched up. I feel that this will, in a small part be to look out for his boys but would primarily be so that he doesnt have to face total humiliation in his tuf coaching. i seriously doubt he would’v been considerate had he control