I totally respect Randy. But in this matter if he was unhappy with his current contract he should have. finished it out and negotiated a new one

Anyone else think that when Dana was a kid he wouldn’t let anybody play with his toys?

i dont get the post…whos having a breakup?what was the content of the web blog that was taken down? why was it taken down in the first place?
una ako..hehe..mabuhay si decillionaire nohay!!!

i dont get the post…whos having a breakup?what was the content of the web blog that was taken down? why was it taken down in the first place?
una ako..hehe..mabuhay si decillionaire nohay!!!

Uh…Randy and the UFC had the break-up…Randy defending his agent and Kim defending Randy was the content…I don’t know why it was taken down…

Didn’t you read the post?

They took down the post because Kim’s response made Randy seem like a petty, un-appreciative, greedy old man. It sounds like a lot of these moves have been orchastrated by Kim and her desire to bring home more bacon off of Randy’s name.

Randy, you should of stuck with the woman who was beside you before you got rich. Kim=Yoko

It’s all a bad dream. I still can’t believe it’s happening. I mean, did anyone see this coming? As a fight fan, I just wanted to see Randy defend his belt all the way….not to mention the possibility of Fedor vs. Randy. I know Fedor didn’t get signed but hey, you never know with this sport.

But if Randy just isn’t happy, then the man has a right to make a change.

WTF!!??

Anyone else think that when Dana was a kid he wouldn’t let anybody play with his toys?

naw, he was stealing everyones toys, then bs’ing his way out of a beating.

Dana White has done more good than bad for the company so everyone needs to just CHILL……….

This whole situation is out of control. Both sides of this pissing match are going to come out looking bad. Randy because all of this makes it seem like it is over nothing but money. The UFC because Dana’s comments are getting to be beyond rediculous. Why Randy’s wife is getting involved is beyond me as well. I see this ending up in court sometime next year. I also see the UFC getting a new president once this starts really steamrolling and they begin to get lumped in with the WWE’s of the world.

If Randy only cares about the respect, then why are do many of his issues also have dollar signs attached to them? And why did Dana go through so much trouble over trying to sign Fedor, only to call him a can in the end?

Life goes on. The UFC should concentrate on moving forward and Randy should shut up and concentrate on developing his crop of fighters. Drama like this is the last thing that the sport of MMA needs.

This whole situation is out of control. Both sides of this pissing match are going to come out looking bad. Randy because all of this makes it seem like it is over nothing but money. The UFC because Dana’s comments are getting to be beyond rediculous. Why Randy’s wife is getting involved is beyond me as well. I see this ending up in court sometime next year. I also see the UFC getting a new president once this starts really steamrolling and they begin to get lumped in with the WWE’s of the world.

If Randy only cares about the respect, then why are do many of his issues also have dollar signs attached to them? And why did Dana go through so much trouble over trying to sign Fedor, only to call him a can in the end?

Life goes on. The UFC should concentrate on moving forward and Randy should shut up and concentrate on developing his crop of fighters. Drama like this is the last thing that the sport of MMA needs.

Amen to that!

This drama is oddly enough a good thing for MMA. This is the kind of thing that happens in fighting and goes toward bringing it to the mainstream. Stories of the actual people and their struggles is what makes the public interested.

So sad to see Captian America airing dirty laundry in public. The more Randy (or his wife) speaks and claims otherwise, the more I’m convinced it’s about nothing more than money.

It’s always about money…

Even if it’s about money, does that take any respect away from Randy? It’s not about money and that’s it, it’s about seeing others not as accomplished as you, jump way over your head in teh pay scale. Frusterating I can imagine. I don’t doubt Randy’s motives.

this is gonna get ugly, but i will say this is your gonna sign a contract u better dam well read it front to back, back to front, and honor your contract till it expires then you can hold out and wait for the big bucks not during it and have a hissy fit cause someone else is making more than you

ufc is milking the fighters. they are earning hundred of millions per year yet they pay their fighter scrubs.. imagine they still pay a fighter $4,000. man, i make that kind of money per month doing file works and i dont have someone knocking my teeth out.

Even if it’s about money, does that take any respect away from Randy? It’s not about money and that’s it, it’s about seeing others not as accomplished as you, jump way over your head in teh pay scale. Frusterating I can imagine. I don’t doubt Randy’s motives.

I’m a huge fan of Randy. I always have been, and I always will be. However, while I myself don’t doubt his motives, others will. He needs to stay out of a PR war with Dana. He won’t win. Dana White is one of those guys that can make anyone look bad because he doesn’t care how bad he looks himself doing it.

Randy got screwed, no doubt about it, but in the end he is the one that signed the contract. He should have retired completely, kept his mouth shut and focused on his gym and his fighters. He has an amazing opportunity to dominate the UFC with his guys and make a name for himself not only as one of the greatest fighters to ever walk in the Octagon, but one of the greates trainers to ever stand outside of it.

Like I said, I love Randy Couture. I don’t want to see him get into a PR war against a guy like White. I’m not a Dana hater, but I have to say, he can make the greasiest shyster of a lawyer look like a saint at times. Randy won’t win that war.

Even if it’s about money, does that take any respect away from Randy? It’s not about money and that’s it, it’s about seeing others not as accomplished as you, jump way over your head in teh pay scale. Frusterating I can imagine. I don’t doubt Randy’s motives.

Its funny because the only reason there are MMA fans that are getting annoyed with Randy is because They love to watch him fight, They cant wait for him to fight again and because hes doing what he believes is right some Fans are impatient and upset.

How the hell does the #1 MMA organizatioon in the world neglect thier biggest star? What goes around comes around for the UFC.

Im sure Dana is a nice likeable guy personally but the fact that he has to make a statement like I bitchslapped him, just shows how insecure he is he obviously wants everyone to know how tough he is. The fact that he has to air a special on spike TV showing how he did not back out of a boxing match between him and tito so he can try to degrade one of his fighters in his own organization by constantly calling him moron and other 12 year old insults is a testament to his charachter (even if tito really is a moron you dont do it publicly). Are you the president of the leading MMA organazation in the world or are you a bully wanna be fighter. Take a lesson form RC and get some class.

  Randy Couture on the other hand, you can tell without even knowing him that he is a man of integrity he wouldnt lie and make up false accusations he doesnt need to prove himself, Hes a Veteran, Hes an olympian, and he is a champion.

I don’t know what his wife said… LOL.. but that’s always a bad move! All she had to say is “I stand behind my husband”… and then talk about Halloween decorations or something that’s it.

Nothing else needs to be said by Couture… just let actions speak for itself.

Randy Couture will never be Tom Cruise or a credible action hero in movies, when he realises this fight with Fedor will happen….I predict summer 08

However, I still have a feeling that Randy will fight Fedor on December,1 in Moscow…

As for Dana, he needs to take some International Managment/Marketing classes ‘cos during a business negotiation you don’t call the other party “crazy”…

i saw randy’s press release on the fight network,where he gave his opinion and answered questions from the press. to me this did not just seem about money. randy seemed very sincere, spoke well and had paperwork about the financial bullshit that,s been going around. randy has felt disrespected by , dana and the ufc owners for a long time,so this goes back yrs. i can see randy’s point. just want to say to randy, the fans respct and apprechiate you big man! i have no doubt you’re going to get the big match with fedor probably in 08 ,with M1. that is if fedor doesn’t keep ducking you to fight lighter fighters like matt lindlin. anyway when it does happen i’ll be watching and giving you my full support,as i give you now! you’ve been a great leader in the world of mma and certainly a great fighter. i know you can beat fedor, who i’ve also watched for yrs. YOU’RE THE MAN RANDY COUTURE, NOTHING WILL CHANGE THAT IN MY HEART AND MIND! KEEP TRAINING LIKE YOU DO, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU’LL FIGHT FEDOR AND ME AND THE BOY’S WILL BE ROOTING FOR YOU. WE KNOW YOU CAN BEAT HIM , SO,WE’LL MOST LIKELY BE BETTING ON YOU, AND DOWNING A FEW BREWSKIE’S THAT NIGHT,IN CONGRATS TO YOU! ALL THE BEST EH! FROM NEW BRUNSWICK, CANADA!

Mania,

why are my comments always awaiting moderation?

NO MORE COUTURE INFO – TIRED OF HEARING HIM COMPLAIN ABOUT ALL THE MILLIONS HE’s MADE!!!

Mania,
why are my comments always awaiting moderation?

Probably because you had a bad word in there somewhere… I know many of mine get this. if its not too bad, they will let it in…

Nice deleted. I love it…..

This whole situation is out of control. Both sides of this pissing match are going to come out looking bad. Randy because all of this makes it seem like it is over nothing but money. The UFC because Dana’s comments are getting to be beyond rediculous. Why Randy’s wife is getting involved is beyond me as well. I see this ending up in court sometime next year. I also see the UFC getting a new president once this starts really steamrolling and they begin to get lumped in with the WWE’s of the world.

If Randy only cares about the respect, then why are do many of his issues also have dollar signs attached to them? And why did Dana go through so much trouble over trying to sign Fedor, only to call him a can in the end?

Life goes on. The UFC should concentrate on moving forward and Randy should shut up and concentrate on developing his crop of fighters. Drama like this is the last thing that the sport of MMA needs.

MONEY -POWER – RESPECT – Randy not only deserves all of these – but he has harshly earned them. By giving him a bigger cheque shows RESPECT – which in hand should give him POWER in his decision’s. Dana has not earned these, but demands them – that leaves him with out RESPECT

Randy looks like Swamp Thing in that picture.

Randy IS right about the respect thing but he is wrong in his approach. He should have just said that he was retiring from the sport, instead of saying that he is resigning. I think that what this started out as was a move by Randy to try to force UFC and M-1 to collaborate on a Randy vs Fedor PPV sort of like how Pride and UFC were supposed to do on a Chuck vs Wand PPV. I think that when it didn’t go well that it forced Randy to stand by his decision and now we have the mess we are in at this present time.

$13-15 million for 4 fights is pretty adequate and respectful compensation, wouldn’t everyone agree? Randy didn’t need to come back, but Dana took him back and gave him an immediate title shot, that, based on his last six fights, was undeserved. Also pretty respectful, yes? I assume Randy actually read the contract, or at least had his agent read it, before signing it. If not then this is his own fault. He keeps saying it’s about respect, not money, but any time an athlete in any sport says respect, he really means money. It’s just that simple. This is one fight that Randy will not win. And his wife needs to stay out of this whole thing, lest she come across like Jenna minus the ridiculous plastic surgery.

Probably because you had a bad word in there somewhere… I know many of mine get this. if its not too bad, they will let it in…

is Dana a bad word nowadays? :)

It sucks that Randy walked away but really what else is left to do.
He’s the champion until he comes back, if he ever does and loses it(not likely, the returning part maybe the losing it part to)or someone in the ufc proves beyond a reasonable doubt that they could, if they fought, beat Randy.
I guess we’ll see how Brock does and of course there’s Fedor but we will never really know who the Heavy Weight champion of MMA really is as of now Randys got my vote.

If it was about money, then why did Couture turn down 3mil to fight Fedor at bodog to instead take a deal to fight Sylvia for much less.

This is about respect, what you have to realize is money has A LOT to do with respect. It has to do with Randy staying loyal to the UFC despite being offered more money, then the UFC stabbing him in the back by offering Fedor many times more than what he made. Not only Fedor, but Nog, and CroCop too!

In a way it is about money, but its certainly not about greed on Randy’s part.

Dana did what he had to do to get the top heavyweight fighters into the UFC, with the exception of Fedor, who wouldn’t stay out of his stupid little Russian tournaments. He was expecting Cro Cop, Nog, etc. to compete with Randy for the title and set up some huge Pride vs. UFC mega-matches. He wasn’t expecting CC to take two kickings in a row or for Nog to nearly get knocked out by a middle-of-the-road fighter. He had to bring those guys in, or else we would have Couture-Herring title fights, and who the hell wants to see that? If the $13 million ON THE CONTRACT THAT HE SIGNED isn’t enough to keep Randy from getting his feelings hurt then to hell with him.

I said this before. The sport is getting too big to keep things like this little spat internal. The people who do not like this sport are going to use this situation to bring negative publicity and try to show up the sport. Both sides could of handled this thing better. Both sides need to have a lot more class. This could have been taken care of a long time ago behind closed doors. Someone needs to man up and squash this thing now.

We have got a serious lack of class on both sides. Somebody needs to man up and squash this thing.

Dana did what he had to do to get the top heavyweight fighters into the UFC, with the exception of Fedor, who wouldn’t stay out of his stupid little Russian tournaments.

They are not stupid little tournaments. This is a big deal here. Plus, THE COMBAT SAMBO tournaments are great to watch. Dana could let Fedor go to Russia once a year to do sambo.

They are not stupid little tournaments. This is a big deal here. Plus, THE COMBAT SAMBO tournaments are great to watch. Dana could let Fedor go to Russia once a year to do sambo.

We have a serious lack of class here. Someone needs to squash this fast.

Anyone else think that when Dana was a kid he wouldn’t let anybody play with his toys?

To all you thread-posters under the age of 21, this isn’t a recess playground that you little kids are used to. This is real life. This is business. This is big-boy stuff that you guys apparently don’t understand at all. Dana can be an jerk-off and mean person all day long but Randy’s the idiot that signed a contract that he didn’t like so he needs to be a man and honor it. Two more fights and he can go off and do whatever he wants after that. Dana has a mouth like a sailor and Randy is gentlemanly but it doesn’t change the fact that when it comes down to this ONE issue, Randy is wrong and Dana is right.

I didn’t mean to diminish the Russian tournaments, but Dana would be foolish to pay Fedor the kind of money he wanted and have him risk injury in outside events.

they’ve accepted such risk in PRIDE why not to do the same in the UFC?

they’ve accepted such risk in PRIDE why not to do the same in the UFC?

When Dana and the UFC gives fighters a contract for guaranteed cash, they do so based on the marketability of the fighter, which allows them to recoup their investment price. If a fighter takes many millions of dollars, as Fedor would have required, and subsequently injured himself in an event outside the UFC, Dana would not be able to market the fighter, as he would be unable to fight. Thus, Dana and the UFC would lose money, and that just isn’t how successful businesses operate.

Sorry, but I disagree with you, man. Risk taking is a part of a successful business, in general. Second, Dana would not lose any money, ‘cos ppl would wait for Fedor’s recovery and pay to see him fight. Similar situation happen in PRIDE with Arona in 2003, when he broke his ankle right before his fight with Jackson…

they’ve accepted such risk in PRIDE why not to do the same in the UFC?

To all you thread-posters under the age of 21, this isn’t a recess playground that you little kids are used to. This is real life. This is business. This is big-boy stuff that you guys apparently don’t understand at all. Dana can be an jerk-off and mean person all day long but Randy’s the idiot that signed a contract that he didn’t like so he needs to be a man and honor it. Two more fights and he can go off and do whatever he wants after that. Dana has a mouth like a sailor and Randy is gentlemanly but it doesn’t change the fact that when it comes down to this ONE issue, Randy is wrong and Dana is right.

Why the hell would somebody fight if their heart is not into it? There are two probable results:

1. He will get hurt in the match.

2. He will be very cautious and the fight will be boring.

So you would rather pay $40 for a PPV, expecting a great fight, and then it turns out to be a dud? Happy spending.

Oh gee – i dunno – maybe because was going bankrupt??? lol Make the connection. UFC = still going strong. PRIDE = dead (and not bc UFC killed it either – it was dying long before they bought it – that’s WHY they were able to buy it so easily).

PRIDE accepted such risk when it was still STRONG…