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Jason MacDonald: Okami is 'boring' and the reason UFC 77 bout not on main card

Jason Macdonald
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"As far as the decision to not be on the main card, the UFC has told me that it has nothing to do with me. It has to do with the fact that Okami is a boring fighter. They know I'll try to put on an exciting fight. In fact, as I felt the hotel on Thursday, I ran into Joe Silva, the matchmaker for the UFC, and he asked to talk to me to express that again and apologized in advance to me."ÂÂ

Middleweight Jason MacDonald sheds some light on the reason his bout at UFC 77: "Hostile Territory" against Yushin Okami is not on the televised pay-per-view (PPV) main card.

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Maybe it’s the fact that nobody cares to watch him destroy Jason MacDonald?

by No1Dad on Oct 20, 2007 9:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it’s the fact that nobody cares to watch him destroy Jason MacDonald?

Has Okami really ever “destroyed” anybody?

Heck he took Rory Singer to a decision.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Oct 20, 2007 9:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Watch it be fight of the night now. lol

by EdenMachine on Oct 20, 2007 10:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh please, Macdonald needs to get his head on straight and not think about all this little petty BS. He needs this win. If Okami beats him, he has nobody to blame but himself for not beign focused.

by bostonmmajunkie on Oct 20, 2007 10:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

JMax will now pay for what he said. Okami will destroy him

by Fan on Oct 20, 2007 10:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is pretty bad, I don’t like it when I see fellow Canadians talking this kind of trash, if its true or not.

But the fact that anyone on the UFC administration would say things like this about their firghters says alot about the organization and how much respect they have for their bread winners.

Why is Okami on almost every other card?

by Ro-J on Oct 20, 2007 10:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MacDonald is hardly the most entertaining guy out there but Okami is sooooo boring to watch. The only time i enjoyed an Okami win was when Anderson Silva up-kicked him in the face and knocked his ass out….that was awesome.

P.S. Okami doesn’t destroy anyone…he could get mount on someone and struggle to TKO them

by Jakizzle on Oct 20, 2007 10:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Has Okami really ever “destroyed” anybody?

Heck he took Rory Singer to a decision.

He destroyed Kalib Starnes .. Rocked him hard with a uppercut and then Starnes ran from him … Broke his nose ..

by Dayzah on Oct 20, 2007 11:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Has Okami really ever “destroyed” anybody?

Heck he took Rory Singer to a decision.

Actually Rory Singer tapout against Okami to strikes. Okami picked apart Belcher like it was a bull against the lamb, and all Starnes could say in between rounds against Okami was “he hits too hard, he is too big. Guys, Okami is just too strong and punches too hard for me” and then Okami proceeded to TKO him. Oh and I also forgot, all Swick said in between rounds against Okami was “That is one big, strong guy, man is he tough to fight against” and then after the fight Swick proceeded to drop to welterweight. If you need a better definition of “destroying anybody” NC-17, you will have a hard time finding it.

Okami will beat MacDonald. He is just too strong and athletic and a far greater striker and wrestler then MacDonald is. Actually, barring a freak injure, I guarantee Okami will beat MacDonald in decisive fashion.

Look, a b does not always equal c. But if we look at how each fighter fought Rich Franklin, Okami is by far a greater fighter. MacDonald got his ass kicked by Franklin for two rounds. Rich had free range to punch, MacDonald really had no defensive stand-up game, and even had a good single leg on Rich and could do nothing with it other then push Rich around (all the while Rich was raining shots on MacDonald’s head). MacDonald was forced to quit after two rounds (a good call by his corner). All Okami did was make it difficult for Rich to hit him for the first two rounds, rounds that neither fighter really won except you have to give it to Rick because he pushed the pace, and then proceeded to kick Rich’s ass in the third round. Rich’s unanimous decision was one of the least convincing win’s I have seen in a long time. Okami has proved that he is a far greater fighter then MacDonald, and Saturday night will prove that.

by Matthew Watt on Oct 20, 2007 11:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Has Okami really ever “destroyed” anybody?

Heck he took Rory Singer to a decision.

Actually, he did finish Singer in the third with punches.

by Rex on Oct 20, 2007 11:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The UFC management probably told Okami the same thing.

by ABM!2! on Oct 20, 2007 11:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okami is going to crush Mcdonald’s. I fell sorry for Okami, the Japanese don’t like fast food.

by Frizz on Oct 20, 2007 11:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think they do stuff like this so it ups their UFC on Demand sales so ppl can watch the pre-lims ..

by Dayzah on Oct 20, 2007 11:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 idiots that I could care less about are fighting!
Enough said!

by john on Oct 20, 2007 11:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope this “boring” fighter beats the living shit out of big red.

by nathan on Oct 20, 2007 11:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I dont know I thought when Macdonald schooled ed herman, rory singer and choked out chris leben were pretty exciting fights yall know it’s true they we’re.
Also it’s not macdonald talking shit, it’s him saying what was supposedly said to him on why a fight up until yesterday on this board everyone wanted to see and questioned why it wasn’t a main card fight.
Macdonald is not going to lose this one.

by jesse canadian mma on Oct 20, 2007 12:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 idiots that I could care less about are fighting!
Enough said!

How are these guys idiots? Are they slightly slow on the uptake? Do they have lower IQ’s then the average person? Or is it because both of these fighters are in the top 5 of their decisions and the list of fighters that both guys have beaten in the UFC is :Swick, Starnes, Belcher, Singer (for both fighters), Leben and Herman? That is a pretty good list of fighters right there. I am confused how two idiots could defeat these fighters? Is MacDonald a idiot because while in the UFC, he has not shown great athleticism or skill but a toughness that wills him to win a fight? Or is Okami a idiot because he fought Rich Franklin and although he lost, he put up a great performance and decisively beat Rich in the 3rd round, which is more then Rich can say about the first two? Or is it because Okami has his opponents saying in between rounds statements like “Boy, is he big and good” or my personal favorite “He is just too big and hits too hard, he is just too good”? I am confused how a “idiot” could get his opponents to make statements like that?

But then again john you would rather watch Stephan Bonnar, a guy who is not even close to being a elite light-heavyweight and in my opinion never will be, defeat Eric Schaeffer in convincing fashion in a fight that should take place on UFN, not a UFC pay-per-view. Because if you ask me, the only "idiot"s are people who would rather watch Bonnar-Schafer then Okami-MacDonald.

by Matthew Watt on Oct 20, 2007 12:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okami is a boring fighter??? He almost submitted Rich Franklin during their last fight… I expected Rich to win that fight, but it was much closer.

by Sleeper on Oct 20, 2007 12:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

truly… the while they will never lose my support, the ufc is doing everything they can to lose it.

randy, underpaying, fedor, and now showing untalented TUF fighters over two contenders…

ratings is the only thing they care about… not fighters, not real fans, not even the art of fighting.

by GasManShad on Oct 20, 2007 12:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

truly… the while they will never lose my support, the ufc is doing everything they can to lose it.

randy, underpaying, fedor, and now showing untalented TUF fighters over two contenders…

ratings is the only thing they care about… not fighters, not real fans, not even the art of fighting.

It is starting to seem that way my friend.

by Matthew Watt on Oct 20, 2007 12:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Has Okami really ever “destroyed” anybody?

Heck he took Rory Singer to a decision.

Okami couldn’t destroy a 8 year old girl with no legs, let alone MacDonald.

by Hardcase on Oct 20, 2007 12:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I mean, hell, he couldn’t finish Swick when he had him pinned against the cage for five hours, and Swick just pissed off again to a lower weight class. Give me a break. MacDonald could lose a decision, but Okami hasn’t got the stopping power of Franklin, and Franklin landed bombs on J-Mac when they were standing and for a long time he took them flush. If MacDonald is aggressive and takes the fight to Okami he’ll win this one, and then, unfortunately, he will be straight up murdered by Anderson Silva. Yikes.

by Hardcase on Oct 20, 2007 12:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

One of the reasons they may not have placed Okami on the main card is that main card fighters receive a bonus that undercard fighters don’t and this is based off their contract; Vi sa Vi, The Starnes-Velcher fight costs the UFC less as a main card fight then, Okami-McDonald. If there is one thing that has been proven about the UFC, it is that they don’t like letting go of their money. UFC-highlights.com has the breakdowns of the fighters incomes.

by bigufcfan on Oct 20, 2007 1:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If MacDonald is aggressive and takes the fight to Okami he’ll win this one, and then, unfortunately, he will be straight up murdered by Anderson Silva. Yikes.

I agree 100%. MacDonald can hang with Okami and has a decent chance of winning, but I don’t think I could even watch the slaughter that MacDonald v Silva would be. Anderson could hold JMac down and submit him with titty twisters and indian burns.

by cmon on Oct 20, 2007 2:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I want this to be on the main card and the only reason I believe it isn’t is because Rich pushed for his trainer, Jorge to be televised. Much rather see McDonald/Okami than Gurgel.

by tandmo on Oct 20, 2007 2:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

all i can say is if i am paying 40 bucks i expect 5 fights not 4 of them on pay perview

by bryant on Oct 20, 2007 2:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okami is going to crush Mcdonald’s. I fell sorry for Okami, the Japanese don’t like fast food.

HAHA, love this quote. But yes, Okami is one tough dude. He’s not going down.

by J.Cameron on Oct 20, 2007 3:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is pretty bad, I don’t like it when I see fellow Canadians talking this kind of trash, if its true or not.

But the fact that anyone on the UFC administration would say things like this about their firghters says alot about the organization and how much respect they have for their bread winners.

Why is Okami on almost every other card?

Are you suggesting that Okami is making bread for the UFC? Cause I can guarantee you he ain’t.

by Michaelthebox on Oct 20, 2007 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I cant believe this fight isnt on the main card? What fights are on the main card?

by PP on Oct 20, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Instead of tossing around fights from over to under card….UFC just needs to start showing all the fights. To me that is by far the biggest issue I have with UFC. All these contract arguments are worthless. Cause now everyone is not getting enough and in no time fighters are going to be getting payed to much…and so on. That’s how things work when everyone want to get a bigger piece of the pie. Nothing any of us can do about that. But letting UFC know that shortening real fans the fights that only real fans care about is what is wrong in UFC right now. Dana came out a while ago and said that the reason he does that is so the people that paid money to see the fight in person should get something extra for showing up. Kind of makes sense, however UFC has to understand that half of those fans are there as an event just for fun, and probably don;t even know half the fighters….It is the real fans that know and care about all the fights on the card and somehow it is us that get screw out of it.

by MMA_MIND on Oct 20, 2007 3:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I cant believe this fight isnt on the main card? What fights are on the main card?

Franklin-Silva
Vera-Sylvia
Belcher-Starnes
Bonner-Schafer
possibly Gurgel-Robinson
possibly McDonald-Okami

by PW on Oct 20, 2007 3:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So Joe Silva is telling us that Belcher-Starnes is going to be a barn burner? Christ! Its Belcher-Starnes!!!

I think the UFC may not even realize how informed their audience has become. I’ve been a fan of the UFC and Pride for a while. But, even guys who’ve picked up watching the sport the last few years know which fighters are worth watching.

UFC think about it – the guys who are shelling out the $$$ to order the pay per view know the fighters. We know their win/loss records, we know who the guy fought last and how that match went, and we know who will make a good fight.

Sucks that we’ll have to watch Macdonald-Okami on UFC on demand or Fight Night.

In agreement with the masses – Just broadcast ALL the fights!

by TabascoSAUCE on Oct 20, 2007 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I mean, hell, he couldn’t finish Swick when he had him pinned against the cage for five hours, and Swick just pissed off again to a lower weight class. Give me a break. MacDonald could lose a decision, but Okami hasn’t got the stopping power of Franklin, and Franklin landed bombs on J-Mac when they were standing and for a long time he took them flush. If MacDonald is aggressive and takes the fight to Okami he’ll win this one, and then, unfortunately, he will be straight up murdered by Anderson Silva. Yikes.

I do not know if you have watched any fights other then Okami vs. Swick or Okami vs. Franklin, but Okami has stopping power. He punches hard and forces guys to play his game. Swick was saying the same thing before his fight “I am going to be aggressive, push the pace, force Okami to fight my fight” that MacDonald is saying now. Swick lost, and in my opinion Swick is a better fighter then MacDonald. If there was a lock of the night, this fight is it. Okami is going to win.

by Matthew Watt on Oct 20, 2007 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And I like MacDonald as a fighter, but I do not see him winning this fight. Okami is just too good.

by Matthew Watt on Oct 20, 2007 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So Joe Silva is telling us that Belcher-Starnes is going to be a barn burner? Christ! Its Belcher-Starnes!!!

I think the UFC may not even realize how informed their audience has become. I’ve been a fan of the UFC and Pride for a while. But, even guys who’ve picked up watching the sport the last few years know which fighters are worth watching.

UFC think about it – the guys who are shelling out the $$$ to order the pay per view know the fighters. We know their win/loss records, we know who the guy fought last and how that match went, and we know who will make a good fight.

Sucks that we’ll have to watch Macdonald-Okami on UFC on demand or Fight Night.

In agreement with the masses – Just broadcast ALL the fights!

I have to agree, I think they should really consider bumping up the start times and showing all the fights. I don’t think a longer show would really put anyone off, it just gives people more entertainment for the PPV dollars they’re shelling out.

by Scott on Oct 20, 2007 5:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How are these guys idiots? Are they slightly slow on the uptake? Do they have lower IQ’s then the average person? Or is it because both of these fighters are in the top 5 of their decisions and the list of fighters that both guys have beaten in the UFC is :Swick, Starnes, Belcher, Singer (for both fighters), Leben and Herman? That is a pretty good list of fighters right there. I am confused how two idiots could defeat these fighters? Is MacDonald a idiot because while in the UFC, he has not shown great athleticism or skill but a toughness that wills him to win a fight? Or is Okami a idiot because he fought Rich Franklin and although he lost, he put up a great performance and decisively beat Rich in the 3rd round, which is more then Rich can say about the first two? Or is it because Okami has his opponents saying in between rounds statements like “Boy, is he big and good” or my personal favorite “He is just too big and hits too hard, he is just too good”? I am confused how a “idiot” could get his opponents to make statements like that?

But then again john you would rather watch Stephan Bonnar, a guy who is not even close to being a elite light-heavyweight and in my opinion never will be, defeat Eric Schaeffer in convincing fashion in a fight that should take place on UFN, not a UFC pay-per-view. Because if you ask me, the only "idiot"s are people who would rather watch Bonnar-Schafer then Okami-MacDonald.

Matthew, I agree with your take on both of these fighters but I’ve gotta stick up for john. He’s a pretty knowledgable dude & definately not a TUF bandwagoneer but I do need ask you john, why do you have it in for these guys?

by Machine on Oct 20, 2007 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okami just blew Ronald err Jason McDonald out of the water…

by Okami Won on Oct 20, 2007 11:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t see why they wouldn’t show all the fights. i think with the money they charge for PPV, and the short paydays for these guys, it would be affordable to show them all. I hope the UFC doesn’t get greedy like other sports (boxing). I was happy when they showed all the fights not too too long ago. It showed the UFC was really appreciating us, the fans. Everyone should e-mail Dana White and express their concerns. Dana seems like a reasonable guy, who listens to the fans. Afterall, it’s us that made the UFC what it is, and it will be us who brings it down if we don’t feel we are getting value (the same way boxing took a hard financial lesson over the past couple years). What’s everyone else think?

by glenn murray on Oct 20, 2007 11:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess Tim Sylvia IS way more exciting than Okami in that case…

Shit… Zzzzzz…

by Sami Swede on Oct 21, 2007 11:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I dont know I thought when Macdonald schooled ed herman, rory singer and choked out chris leben were pretty exciting fights yall know it’s true they we’re.
Also it’s not macdonald talking shit, it’s him saying what was supposedly said to him on why a fight up until yesterday on this board everyone wanted to see and questioned why it wasn’t a main card fight.
Macdonald is not going to lose this one.

  not going to lose eh? I love it when I’m right.

by nathan on Oct 21, 2007 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not going to lose eh? I love it when I’m right.


ha ha ha that was funny he talked crap and lost

by Michael on Oct 21, 2007 3:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Matthew, I agree with your take on both of these fighters but I’ve gotta stick up for john. He’s a pretty knowledgable dude & definately not a TUF bandwagoneer but I do need ask you john, why do you have it in for these guys?

Machine, john may be on the up and up, I just do not like drive-by mocking of fighters. Stand up, state your position on why they suck, and we can discuss it from there.

by Matthew Watt on Oct 21, 2007 5:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The UFC management probably told Okami the same thing.

ROFL…some funny sh*t, UFC is a playa..

by Anonymousf*ck on Oct 23, 2007 10:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

feel bad for Okami, rumors has it that his contract just expired and that was his last fight and it seems the UFC don’t intend to sign him back.

by justanotherMMAfan on Oct 24, 2007 1:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

UFC is becoming more sports entertainment than sport, if they start deciding on what is more entertaining versus who is the best fighter. If you talk to the actual athletes themselves, they’d want to see who’s the best, not who can put up the best show.

by RearNakedChokeChicago on Oct 31, 2007 1:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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