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Report: Forrest Griffin to have shoulder surgery

Forrest Griffin

Light heavyweight contender Forrest Griffin will undergo surgery to repair an injured shoulder, according to a comment on the Underground Forum from former contestant on The Ultimate Fighter (TUF), Rory Singer.

"Outburst" trains with Griffin at X-Treme Couture in Las Vegas, Nevada.

Here's the snip:

Forrest has had a majorly damaged shoulder for quite a long while. The injuries to his shoulder even before his fight with Shogun were exhaustive. You have never heard of it because Forrest never mentions his injuries, whether he has won or lost, after his fights. This surgery was a long time in coming. Everyone felt it was in his best interest to have the surgery now before fighting another top tier fighter. He basically fought Shogun with one arm. Trust me, Forrest wanted to fight Silva in December but that was not to be.

Griffin recently upset 205-pound stand out Mauricio "Shogun" Rua at UFC 76: "Knockout" in the Brazilian's Octagon debut via submission in the third round. It was a thrilling victory that unfortunately for Griffin came at a physical cost.

He had a major gash between his eyes stitched up immediately following the fight and now there is this news that he will go under the knife to repair the shoulder. There was no indication what type of surgery he will have or how long it will take him to recover.

We will certainly pass along that news if and when it emerges. But it seems that he will be on the shelf at least until sometime in 2008.

In the meantime, check out Griffin in his television debut on NBC's "Law & Order: SVU." He makes a guest appearance as a fighter during an episode that airs on November 13.

(Thanks to UFCmania reader "One Love" for the assist.)

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Combat sports..expect injuries.

by PhilQNY on Oct 16, 2007 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Hope this injury doesn’t mess with his A-Game. Griffin wanted to fight Silva?..Really, well that’s crazy of him. But then again, he has beaten Shogun, and that’s not an easy task. When Coleman took down Shogun, Shogun Freakishly broke his arm. That’s only other person i’ve seen grab Shogun and man-handle him. But Griffin wanted to fight Silva. What a stand-up guy!

by ntvman on Oct 16, 2007 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope to see a healthy ready for war Griffen to keep stirring up the LHW division.

by PhilQNY on Oct 16, 2007 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Awwww Man! Now who is going to fight Rampage next

by ViolentMike on Oct 16, 2007 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Guess that cancels out Shogun’s knee injury and saying he couldn’t train properly. Neither could Forrest.

by Jason on Oct 16, 2007 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Hope this injury doesn’t mess with his A-Game. Griffin wanted to fight Silva?..Really, well that’s crazy of him. But then again, he has beaten Shogun, and that’s not an easy task. When Coleman took down Shogun, Shogun Freakishly broke his arm. That’s only other person i’ve seen grab Shogun and man-handle him. But Griffin wanted to fight Silva. What a stand-up guy!

..don’t forget Babalu tapped out Shogun2.

by PhilQNY on Oct 16, 2007 10:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Watching him on Law & Order SUV will be classic.

by Lucas on Oct 16, 2007 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Make to sure to remember this the next time a fighter blames an ass-whipping on an injury in training. I like Forrest even more now than I did before, meaning that I like him as much as I possibly can without it being a full-on man crush.

by PW on Oct 16, 2007 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

hope he gets this problem taken care of. Love to watch him fight. All heart and 100% effort. Get well soon Forrest. And could they not find a better picture of him?

by Spider Style on Oct 16, 2007 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Hope this injury doesn’t mess with his A-Game. Griffin wanted to fight Silva?..Really, well that’s crazy of him. But then again, he has beaten Shogun, and that’s not an easy task. When Coleman took down Shogun, Shogun Freakishly broke his arm. That’s only other person i’ve seen grab Shogun and man-handle him. But Griffin wanted to fight Silva. What a stand-up guy!

If I had to guess, I would expect Forrest to be better off than he was, after he has surgery. At least, thats what I hope. Not really a Forrest fan, but I like to see all the best fighters fighting at the top of their game.

by Mahde on Oct 16, 2007 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Awwww Man! Now who is going to fight Rampage next

Mike I have no idea, the only logical opponent would be wanderlei if he can beat Liddell in December. I mean I know Wandy is comming off of 2 losses, and beating Liddell comming off of 2 losses isn’t has impressive as it once was, but Wanderlei has FINISHED rampage twice in the past. Rampage has spoke about his desire to fight all of the fighters that have beaten him (like Liddell did). If wanderlei looses to Liddell, then that is really gonna screw with the LHW division because Rampage would then have to wait for Griffin to heal before defending his title again.

Only other possibility would be Jardine, but even though he beat Liddell, I dont feel that Jardine is deserving of a title shot. He is still at least 1 more big victory away from deserving a title shot.

Props to Griffin………. True warrior spirit… and the best possible fighter mentality that a fighter can have.

by john on Oct 16, 2007 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

What shoulder ? left or right?

by kickinthehead on Oct 16, 2007 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

If Noguerra has an impressive win against Kongo, hopefully that will get Coutture to delay his retirement at least for 1 more fight. Noguerra is the only other fighter that makes sense for Randy to fight besides Fedor. If Noguera can win impressively, hopefully that will lure Randy out of retirement to defend his title one Last time. So the fans can say good bye to him and honor him the right way.

Just announcing his retirement on a Sunday or any other regular day, is not the proper way of retiring after the magnificent career that he has had. He needs to say this will be my last fight, so the UFC can Market it right, and so that after the fight his career can be celebrated in the Octagon in front of a sold out Las Vegas crowd.

He deserves a much better send off, then just announcing it on any old day!!!!!

by john on Oct 16, 2007 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

I remember when I first saw Forrest fight, I thought, “What’s Howdy Doody gonna do?”. Then I saw him fight and was pretty impressed. Each time I’ve seen him fight since then, I’ve been impressed more and more. He’s now one of my top three favorites. Most people I’ve talked to that have had shoulder surgeries have came through well and had full recoveries. I’m hoping Forrest is the same.

by GangOfOne on Oct 16, 2007 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I wish him well and look forward to seeing him back better than ever!

by GriffinFan05 on Oct 16, 2007 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

john and the others — I agree; mad props to Forrest. I realize some other fighters have just been honest about their injuries, not necessarily crying. But the fact that Forrest never mentioned his shoulder problems is very cool. Definitely pegs needle on the Respect-O-Meter.

by MMACrossfire on Oct 16, 2007 12:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Rampage is injured, Forrest is injured. I smell MMA SUPERBOWL.

Forrest/Rampage for the lightweight championship.

Too bad it cant happen in March in Columbus.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Oct 16, 2007 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

So what does Forrest play on SVU? Child molestor or rapest?
Good move in getting it done now.

by Luppers on Oct 16, 2007 1:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Rampage is injured, Forrest is injured. I smell MMA SUPERBOWL.

Forrest/Rampage for the lightweight championship.

Too bad it cant happen in March in Columbus.

Rampage is injured? this is the first i’ve heard of that.

by kitsunex on Oct 16, 2007 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Haha, Forrest looks like a zombie in that pic!

by Doug on Oct 16, 2007 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

haha, i wonder if Forrest is gonna have to play a pedafile or a rapist, i did hear he was supposed to be the bad guy, and its special victims unit…unless hes just a dick and not the real criminal…either way should be entertaining

by MMA Dude on Oct 16, 2007 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Mike I have no idea, the only logical opponent would be wanderlei if he can beat Liddell in December. I mean I know Wandy is comming off of 2 losses, and beating Liddell comming off of 2 losses isn’t has impressive as it once was, but Wanderlei has FINISHED rampage twice in the past. Rampage has spoke about his desire to fight all of the fighters that have beaten him (like Liddell did). If wanderlei looses to Liddell, then that is really gonna screw with the LHW division because Rampage would then have to wait for Griffin to heal before defending his title again.

Only other possibility would be Jardine, but even though he beat Liddell, I dont feel that Jardine is deserving of a title shot. He is still at least 1 more big victory away from deserving a title shot.

Props to Griffin………. True warrior spirit… and the best possible fighter mentality that a fighter can have.

I’m pretty sure that if Wand loses to Chuck & Forrest isnt fully healed then Jardine will get the title shot. There is nobody else that comes to mind that under that circumstance would deserve it more than Jardine. I hate to say that because I’m not a fan of Jardine at all. Anyone else have any idea’s of who else is in line for a shot at the 205 title if Wand takes an “L”?

by Machine on Oct 16, 2007 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Rampage is injured? this is the first i’ve heard of that.

Yeah, he mentioned it shortly after his win over Hendo. I believe he has a broken hand.

by Machine on Oct 16, 2007 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Awwww Man! Now who is going to fight Rampage next

Wasn’t Rampage also taking time off from an injury? However, I dont think letting his hand heal will take nearly as long as Griffin’s shoulder.

I say let Jardin have at him. But this time, pay the man more money. I mean, Jesus Christ that guy is underpaid.

by Mahde on Oct 16, 2007 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

If Noguerra has an impressive win against Kongo, hopefully that will get Coutture to delay his retirement at least for 1 more fight. Noguerra is the only other fighter that makes sense for Randy to fight besides Fedor. If Noguera can win impressively, hopefully that will lure Randy out of retirement to defend his title one Last time. So the fans can say good bye to him and honor him the right way.

Just announcing his retirement on a Sunday or any other regular day, is not the proper way of retiring after the magnificent career that he has had. He needs to say this will be my last fight, so the UFC can Market it right, and so that after the fight his career can be celebrated in the Octagon in front of a sold out Las Vegas crowd.

He deserves a much better send off, then just announcing it on any old day!!!!!

Randy wouldn’t be able to say it’s his LAST FIGHT. When he retired he was like, “you’ll never see these gloves in the octagon again”. Well, he came back. So if he was to come back for a fight marketed as his “last match ever”, who’s to say he wouldnt fight again if the money is right?! That’s just my opinion.

by GriffinFan05 on Oct 16, 2007 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t like Forrest Griffin and he is vastly overrated. I can say that right?

by skatanicus on Oct 16, 2007 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Randy wouldn’t be able to say it’s his LAST FIGHT. When he retired he was like, “you’ll never see these gloves in the octagon again”. Well, he came back. So if he was to come back for a fight marketed as his “last match ever”, who’s to say he wouldnt fight again if the money is right?! That’s just my opinion.

Ok I can agree with your statement GriffinFan05, but at least announce your retirement in the cage after a fight like he did in his 3rd fight against Liddell, that way he can bask in the crowds appreciation for everything that he has done for this sport. I just think he is to BIG for the sport to just announce his retitrement like this. I hope he is still envolved in the UFC, whether its as a commentator or whatever….. Hopefully Dana White didn’t insult him too much, because I dont wanna c Randy Coaching in the IFL

by John on Oct 16, 2007 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Having had SLAP II and torn labrum myself I am a veteran of shoulder surgery. This vague reference to a shoulder injury and impending surgery tells us nothing of the severity of the injury. Anyone have more details? Mania? Jesse?
I know with my injury I could not even raise my hand over my head (shoulder level really), so an oma would have made me cry like a school girl. To this day, even a kimura makes me cringe.

by SaVaGe on Oct 16, 2007 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Well I think since all these injuries are happing, Jardin VS Houston, then see what happens after that, they’re not injured right?

by Thorazine on Oct 16, 2007 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Jardin could fight Rampage, he’s earned the spot just as much as anyone else at this point.

by Thorazine on Oct 16, 2007 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

thats a shame really thought it was his time to fight for the title

this shifts the title picture a fair bit with the new obvious choice to face rampage in the near future being keith jardine

i guess any guy who beats someone as dominant as chuck deserves a shot at the belt… the loss to houston is a blemish on his record, but to have beaten lidell and forrest recently must put him right up at the top

by wolfslair on Oct 17, 2007 1:19 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t like Forrest Griffin and he is vastly overrated. I can say that right?

vastly overrated?…..hes was vastly underestimated. now that he beat shogun hes on a even playing field now. yeah you can say that….on drugs! almost everyone counted him out against tito and shogun. now griffin wanted to fight silva first as well but since his shoulder surgery has hindered that as well.

by twizted203 on Oct 17, 2007 2:21 AM EDT reply actions  

hey if houston does a number on silva its conceivable that he could get a shot with the lhw division all over the place.i still think we r gonna see griffin/jardine 2.

by SCOTT on Oct 17, 2007 3:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Forrest ‘The Shoot Boxe Hunter’ Griffin?

by TABASCOsauce on Oct 17, 2007 5:12 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t like Forrest Griffin and he is vastly overrated. I can say that right?

Yeah you can say that if your a blithering idiot and know nothing of mma and the ufc. You can also say that Wayne Weems will be the next UFC LightWeight Champ.

by GriffinFan05 on Oct 17, 2007 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah you can say that if your a blithering idiot and know nothing of mma and the ufc. You can also say that Wayne Weems will be the next UFC LightWeight Champ.

LOL, you get ’em GriffinFan05!!!

How long with Griffin be out for due to shoulder?

How long will it take for Rampage’s hand to be healed 100%?

Those are the two biggest questions as to the title picture.

by ViolentMike on Oct 17, 2007 10:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Guess that cancels out Shogun’s knee injury and saying he couldn’t train properly. Neither could Forrest.

Great point and this surgery has been a long time coming huh? Shogun can’t say shit. He got his ass whooped fair square. Damn that was a great fight.

by SulaPeace on Oct 17, 2007 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I remember when I first saw Forrest fight, I thought, “What’s Howdy Doody gonna do?”. Then I saw him fight and was pretty impressed. Each time I’ve seen him fight since then, I’ve been impressed more and more. He’s now one of my top three favorites. Most people I’ve talked to that have had shoulder surgeries have came through well and had full recoveries. I’m hoping Forrest is the same.

I felt the same way. I thought he looked doofy and moved strange. Of course then the more he got hit -the sharper and better he got in the fight. The more he got hit and the bloodier he got, the more it fueled him. It’s a beautiful thing… there is nothing like watching someone fight who really loves it. Some other fighters could learn a few things from him. But then again you can’t teach heart.

by SulaPeace on Oct 17, 2007 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t like Forrest Griffin and he is vastly overrated. I can say that right?

You can say it, but you’re out of your mind. Jesus take the wheel! Something in your kool-aid ain’t right man. I can say that right?

by SulaPeace on Oct 17, 2007 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Wand may now have difficulty walking thru Rampage’s improved
strikes. That would be a good fight.

Yes Forrest has alot of heart. Forrest only hope would be
to get inside with good strikes. Rampage knows how to protect
his jaw even though he doesnt dance. I dont even want to watch
this fight if it happens. Have the ambulance warmed up and the
doctors ready.

by grapller scout on Dec 13, 2007 1:28 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t know about Forrest being over-rated. I heard the same thing about Rampage while not hearing that same thing about Liddel. And look what happened there. . . Liddel was never questioned before about his wide open arms that left him wide open to a devastating Jackson strike right on target and totally unblocked. Now Liddel has “holes” in his game.

My greatest concern with Forrest standing toe to toe with Jackson is his predilection to being bloodied before he gets into his groove. It is Griffin’s most glaring hole. It reminds me of how Greg Maddux had to get rung up a few times in the first inning before he “settled in.”

The problem with “settling in” with Jackson is I have not seen one man that can take more than a few solid Jackson knocks without being dazed, which is when Jackson runs in for the kill.

If Forrest waits to be bloodied before he gets his A game on with Jackson, he is going to be knocked out. I think if Forrest avoids his common theme, he has a chance. I give 2-1 odds on Jackson. And I’m a Griffin fan.

by Jonny on Mar 31, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

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