No excuses: UFCmania interview with Josh Koscheck (exclusive)

Two months ago Josh Koscheck was on the path to a title shot, proving that he belonged atop the division with a unanimous decision win over nemesis Diego Sanchez.
All he had to do was defeat Georges St. Pierre at UFC 74: "Respect" and he would almost certainly punch his ticket to an opportunity to compete for the 170-pound crown.
It didn't go his way -- "Rush" earned the win and is now set to fight the winner of the bout between Matt Serra and Matt Hughes for the welterweight championship sometime in early 2008.
That leaves "Kos" in a position in which he needs to climb his way back to the top. Fortunately for him he's done it before, and in this exclusive interview he vows to do it again.
Koscheck was gracious in defeat and clearly has a tremendous amount of respect for St. Pierre. He offers up not a single excuse for his loss, talks about who he wants to fight next and when he wants it to happen, as well as what his future holds in the UFC.
Koscheck is chomping at the bit to get back in the cage. And he's determined more than ever to prove to himself and the fans that he is among the elite in an elite 170-pound UFC division.
UFCmania.com: Thanks for taking the time to speak with UFCmania.com, Josh. What's been going on since the loss to Georges St. Pierre at UFC 74 back in August?
Josh Koscheck: Not much, just training hard and getting in some relaxation time. I check out your Web page and it seems like you guys are getting a lot hits.
UFCmania.com: Yeah, business is good but as you know it can always be better ... just like at MAR Clothing, you know?
Josh Koscheck: I hear that. We're actually not doing too much promotion because we're having a new company redesign the Web site that will come out early next year. We plan to roll-out a lot of new cool gear at that time so we're excited.
UFCmania.com: Going all corporate now or what?
Josh Koscheck: No, just a new deal that is going to work out real good for me. It's going to be sick. Had to pay some big money to get this thing done right. It's a pimp Web page and I can't wait.
UFCmania.com: You should have called us, we would have hooked it up.
Josh Koscheck: I didn't know you guys did that, too (laughs). But this guy is real good and does some sick shit. Appreciate the offer, though.
UFCmania.com: OK, let's get to it. What happened against St. Pierre? His gameplan seemed to attack your strength and beat you at your own game (wrestling). Did that surprise you?
Josh Koscheck: My gameplan was to not wrestle in this fight. Georges had an entirely different approach. I wanted to stand and trade to prove that my stand up was getting better, but no excuses. He had a heck of a gameplan, he executed and he was the better man that night. My hats off to Georges St. Pierre because if you look at all of his recent opponents with the exception of Matt Serra he's ran through everybody. It was a big learning lesson for me and it showed the fans that I'm getting better. Two years ago St. Pierre would have kicked the shit out of me. Now I can build off of that and hopefully fight Georges when it really matters — when he has the title next year after beating the winner of the bout between Serra and Matt Hughes.
UFCmania.com: What was it like fighting St. Pierre? Was he stronger, quicker or more talented than you thought?
Josh Koscheck: I wasn't surprised at all. He's an athlete and a good competitor who came to fight that night. I knew going in he had great skills. I knew he'd be strong, athletic and fast. For me it's just whatever because I didn't fight my best fight that night. I can't harp on or cry about what happened. I'm just focused on what's ahead of me next and move forward. I'm excited about the opportunity to get back in the cage as soon as possible that's for sure.
UFCmania.com: Before the fight with St. Pierre you told us and all the fans to be ready for a "big surprise." Can you tell us now what that was all about?
Josh Koscheck: I have a new Muay Thai coach who I have been training with for about six months now and I really wanted to unleash some elbows and knees during the fight. I wanted to keep it standing and really work him over in the clinch. That was my strategy going in, which was similar to the way BJ Penn beat up Georges in their fight last year. I wanted to be in his face and aggressive. But as soon as I threw my first inside leg kick he took me down. I watched the fight and I usually don't do that. But with this one I wanted to see the mistakes I made and learn from them. Georges clearly did his homework and was ready for this fight. One of my friends actually said that Georges cheated me because he took me down (laughs). He wasn't supposed to take me down. Whatever. That's life and part of the sport. Next time we fight I'll have a different strategy and be ready for whatever he brings. I'll be prepared for the wrestling aspect and the stand up.
UFCmania.com: Are you saying your wrestling isn't where it should be? You're known as perhaps the best wrestler in the organization. Certainly the most decorated.
Josh Koscheck: Not at all. I've been wrestling for more than 20 years and have been doing it against some of the top guys in the world. That's all I knew when I went on to The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) three years ago. It was good enough to get me through a lot of those early fights. But this is mixed martial arts — not wrestling. I've come a long way in a short amount of time. For this fight I focused mainly on my stand up because that part of my game needs the most work. Like I said ... next time I'll be ready for everything.
UFCmania.com: In the waning seconds of the fight you admitted to congratulating Georges on the win. Dave Meltzer (who was also a UFC judge on occasion) noted that had you secured a takedown in I believe the second or third round and not Georges that the judges could have given you the round based on the current 10-point must system. Did you think the fight was that close?
Josh Koscheck: It was a close fight. But I wanted it to be exciting and give the fans what they paid to see. I wanted to prove to myself and everyone else that my stand up is getting better. It is what it is. I can't say now if I did this or that that it would have won me that fight. It's over. I'm a competitor and I got beat. It happens. In the long run the loss will probably make me a better fighter. Georges was just a better fighter and a better athlete that night. He won the fight.
UFCmania.com: Now do you think you lost that fight because of the gameplan you had going in to it or did Georges simply just win the bout?
Josh Koscheck: Definitely Georges won that fight. Based on the current rules in mixed martial arts he did more to win that decision. However, he didn't cause any damage while he was controlling me. There were no marks on me after that fight except for a small knot on side of my head from an elbow and that was it. But that's life, you know? It's part of the game. As soon as I got out of the Octagon I told Dana White and Joe Silva that I wanted to get back as soon as possible. I said I'd fight next week if I could.
UFCmania.com: Well that didn't happen. So when is your next fight and who is it against?
Josh Koscheck: To read the answer to this question click here.
UFCmania.com: Sans fighting for the 170-pound title, which fight intrigues you the most going forward? Who do you want to fight next?
Josh Koscheck: I'll fight anyone as long as it makes sense and moves my career forward. I want to be in against the best guys so I can challenge for that belt as soon as possible. When Georges wins back that belt I want to be near the top of the division so I can fight him again. Ideally I want to face the loser of the Serra and Hughes fight because I know that the winner fights Georges.
UFCmania.com: The last time we spoke you mentioned that you want to fight Hughes before he declines or retires from the sport. Will you be rooting for Serra on December 29?
Josh Koscheck: I don't really care at this point. Fighting either one of them makes sense because it will mean that they are both former champions. If I get that opportunity it will put me right back into contention to fight for the title. Hopefully, with two or three fights I'll be back in the mix. I want to fight the best guys ... bottom line.
UFCmania.com: I have to ask even though I already know the answer. Does that include either Jon Fitch or Mike Swick?
Josh Koscheck: I fight those guys everyday. If you want to see me fight them just stop by the American Kickboxing Academy and check it out. Aside from that I'm not about to ruin good friendships and training partners for what we are getting paid. There are plenty of other guys out there ... the division is loaded with talented fighters.
UFCmania.com: What about if the price was right?
Josh Koscheck: I don't know. It's a discussion we'd have to have in the gym. But I don't think so. Besides we're all at different levels right now. Swick just dropped down to 170 pounds and he hasn't even fought anyone in the division. He's also coming off of a painful injury and needs a bunch of fights to get going. Jon Fitch on the other hand is a tough son of a bitch. Everybody now knows that after he beat Diego Sanchez. It was a great fight and my hat goes off to both of those guys for putting on a show. Right now there's no reason whatsoever to fight one another. We feed of each other and push one another. It's a big reason we are all successful. I wouldn't be where I'm at today without those guys and everyone else who trains at AKA. And I think if you ask them the same question they'll have the same answer.
UFCmania.com: What's the situation on Swick since he had to pull out of the fight with Jonathan Goulet because of the ribs. Are they still busted up?
Josh Koscheck: He won't fight probably until January or February I'm assuming. It was a pretty bad injury that takes a while to heal. In fact, he's just running and doing technique right now. He hasn't been sparring or rolling or anything like that. He needs some more time to recover.
UFCmania.com: Let's take a look into your crystal ball. Who will be the 170-pound champ one year from today?
Josh Koscheck: Definitely Georges St. Pierre is going to be the champion again. He'll run over either Hughes or Serra when he gets the chance. If I can string together a few wins while all that happens then maybe I can get back to the top in 12 months. And I can guarantee that I won't make the same mistakes I made against Georges St. Pierre. I want another shot at him so I can take his title. Let me just also say that my focus just isn't on Georges St. Pierre. My focus is to win my next fight and take it one fight at a time. I won't let this loss get me down and I plan to get motivation from it. I've lost before in MMA and in wrestling and I don't let it get me down. I bounce back every time. It's just a bump in the road and I need to put it in four-wheel drive and run over that sucker. I know that if I keep training and do the things that I do every single day then I know it will all work out in the end.
UFCmania.com: Last time we talked you were talking about getting a new contract. How'd that work out?
Josh Koscheck: I've fulfilled my nine-fight obligation on the TUF contract that I signed three years ago. Actually in April 2008 all of the fighters' contracts on that cast are set to expire. It'll be interesting to see what happens.
UFCmania.com: OK, Josh. We've taken up enough of your time. Thanks for checking in. Any last words for our readers out there?
Josh Koscheck: Just check out my Web page, MySpace or buy some gear over at MAR Clothing. I can't wait to get back in the Octagon and put on a show for the fans. I appreciate all the support.
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Stand up guy you can be sometime Koscheck….I hope you get in their soon enough to impose some solid takedowns and bash some heads in….maybe you and Karo can bang? That’s a fight I’ve been hoping for for a long time. Good luck and stay healthy.
by DeathbyHighKick on Oct 15, 2007 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A well spoken dude. I like the fact that he combines intelligence (I thought that I read somewhere that he was once working on a Masters Degree) and tough athleticism. If he continues to improve at the rate that he has so far, he’ll soon be a powerhouse.
by Muscle Dolphin on Oct 15, 2007 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what about josh koscheck against his teamate jon fitch? yes they’re teamate but hey,if one of them blocking their way on a title shot, they must engage in the octogan even if they’re friends/teamate
by mad drummer on Oct 15, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you didn’t ask about him holding his shorts to stop the sub by GSP… man i was pissed about that
by steveland on Oct 15, 2007 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good job man. St Pierre is simply the best and i put you 2nd. I would say give him the loser of the Hughes-Serra fight but that would mean a fight sometime around March-April 08. That is too long to wait! He’s gonna dominate whoever he fights next. And what’s with UFCMania trying to get an excuse from the guy? Look at the interview, that’s obvious what they were trying to get out of him!
by J.Cameron on Oct 15, 2007 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Great interview! I like Koscheck, i know he can make another comeback!
by nikki on Oct 15, 2007 11:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Steveland, it was legal for him to hold his own shorts to defend against the kimura, just as long as it wasn’t GSP’s shorts.
by Sean on Oct 15, 2007 11:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A well spoken dude. I like the fact that he combines intelligence (I thought that I read somewhere that he was once working on a Masters Degree) and tough athleticism. If he continues to improve at the rate that he has so far, he’ll soon be a powerhouse.
Dude needed one credit. He is super smart, but still a dick. The GSP fight seemed to humble him a bit. Still glad he and Fitch beat Diego.
by Raetsinner on Oct 16, 2007 12:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So what if Jon Fitch holds the title? Would he fight him then? Fitch WILL hold the title by the way….
by c-war on Oct 16, 2007 12:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not a huge fan of KOS but definatley a good interview. He was better spoken than i have seen before and i really respect a guy who can take his losses like a man. Good job KOS. Also fitch will not be champion anytime real soon. The wight class is deep and if u think hes walking past karo, hughes, GSP ect. then you are wild. Also if they get a deal done with sheilds… all of 170 better watch out, he has the ability to beat anyone.
by freestyle on Oct 16, 2007 1:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
kos should have been battling karo if he was so ready to go. grr
by COR on Oct 16, 2007 1:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So what if Jon Fitch holds the title? Would he fight him then? Fitch WILL hold the title by the way….
Yeah, GSP is a nice guy, he might let Fitch touch his title. ;P
by Pat on Oct 16, 2007 2:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Best division in the world. Kos and Karo would be very exciting with Karo’s Judo and Kos wrestling and improved standup. This division has too many interesting matchups to name. I like how Kos is more respectful the more he fights. He used to piss me off earlier in his career with his shit talking. Nothing matures a fighter more than losing and coming back. Is he the best pure wrestler in UFC right now? Who has credentials that compare?
by My-Quit on Oct 16, 2007 2:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GSP is very well rounded, But MMA is such a fluke sport that anyone can beat anyone, any night. But he’s the only fighter i know of who is actually plural. GEORGES. He’s like twice the George of normal George’s. Thats gotta count for something.
by My-Quit on Oct 16, 2007 2:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt Serra will whip Hughes first and then take down GSP afterwards. He has both their numbers. Case closed. Fughedaboutit!
by Ross Pointon on Oct 16, 2007 3:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GSP is very well rounded, But MMA is such a fluke sport that anyone can beat anyone, any night. But he’s the only fighter i know of who is actually plural. GEORGES. He’s like twice the George of normal George’s. Thats gotta count for something.
LOL… now that’s fnn’ funny..
by Thorazine on Oct 16, 2007 4:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Koscheck is the only guy that poses a LONG TERM threat to GSP (i.e. not just a freak upset), I can see those two clashing another couple of times in their careers… It would be amazing to see them in a five round title bout.
Fitch showed some amazing strength and submission defense against Diego but I feel that he lacks a bit of drive and aggression… The AKA boys will get a shake up if they keep winning fights, sooner or later they are gonna have to face off…
by Oskarbravo on Oct 16, 2007 4:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GSP is very well rounded, But MMA is such a fluke sport that anyone can beat anyone, any night. But he’s the only fighter i know of who is actually plural. GEORGES. He’s like twice the George of normal George’s. Thats gotta count for something.
This is funny…I’m going to use that one day. hahaha.
by shadyone33 on Oct 16, 2007 5:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Steveland, it was legal for him to hold his own shorts to defend against the kimura, just as long as it wasn’t GSP’s shorts.
I didn’t realize that. It should be against the rules though. I was actually wondering why the question was not asked myself. Thanks for the info.
by shadyone33 on Oct 16, 2007 6:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I knew I was sticking up for this guy for a reason. I think GSP was maybe a little too much for Kos as of yet, but I think he could upset most of the Sanchez-esk hypes in the welterweight division. Matt Hughes in particlular.
by zoodles on Oct 16, 2007 6:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
…and by the way, you gotta give this guy credit, he saw that he was being regarded as a boring fighter, and actually did something about it, unlike some.
by zoodles on Oct 16, 2007 6:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If he’s serious about beating the top guys within the next 12 months and battling for the belt, him and Fitch better have that meeting in the gym he’s referring to because Fitch is going to be a big part of the 170 pound division this year. I don’t think after ST. Pierre’s shot, anyone else is getting a shot without going through Fitch first.
by getrawbc on Oct 16, 2007 6:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The real fight to wait for is when GSP regains his title and defends it in a 5 round war against John Fitch…. Now thats a fight of the year candidate!! I expect this fight to happen this upcomming year between June and August.
by John on Oct 16, 2007 8:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would like to see Kos fight Jake Sheilds.
I think it would be an interesting bout’. I am a fan of Sheilds and think it would be a good test for him.
Kos is a good fighter and a stand-up guy, but i have never really liked him….i dont know?..maybe it’s the hair??
by Stagger-Lee on Oct 16, 2007 8:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Violent Mike! Can you or anyone else explain to me what the hell was the point in spending all that money to purchase PRIDE, when many Pride fighters are not joining the UFC. How is Fedor allowed to sign with another company? I thought that the reason for the Pride purchase was to set up dream matches. Now we got guys like Gomi, Fedor, Soukoudjou all signing with other companies. Weren’t the Pride fighters assets of the Pride Company. When you purchase a company you get all it’s assets. Can any one please explain to me how fighters like Fedor and Gomi can just go sign with other companies.
I would like to see Cro cop fight the looser of Sylvia and Verra!!!! thats because he is in no position to fight the winner comming off of two consecutive losses!
by John on Oct 16, 2007 8:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jon fitch will be champion by end of 2008
maybe if he goes to the WEC or somewhere else – he will never hold the UFC title – never – i would and will bet against fitch everytime he goes against a top 3 WW
by Insain on Oct 16, 2007 9:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt Serra will whip Hughes first and then take down GSP afterwards. He has both their numbers. Case closed. Fughedaboutit!
Ummm no and no….
by TitoG on Oct 16, 2007 9:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not a huge fan of KOS but definatley a good interview. He was better spoken than i have seen before and i really respect a guy who can take his losses like a man. Good job KOS. Also fitch will not be champion anytime real soon. The wight class is deep and if u think hes walking past karo, hughes, GSP ect. then you are wild. Also if they get a deal done with sheilds… all of 170 better watch out, he has the ability to beat anyone.
Freestyle, I agree with most everything you say in this good post. From the beginning of TUF 1, I liked Chris Leben, so therefore, I hated KOS. But the more I see of him lately ( over the last year or so), the less I dislike him. I no longer have that same hate for him where I’m rooting for him to get brutally beaten everytime he steps foot in the octagon. The only reason the Fitch won’t be champ anytime ‘real soon’ is because Hughes/Serra is December, then Winner/GSP would be like April, so if Fitch were to be #1 contender, he wouldnt get to fight that winner until like August. So that is no time soon. I also agree with Jake Shields. I am a big fan of his. I just hope that he doesn’t fold under the big pressure of the UFC and fighting TOP competition.
by ViolentMike on Oct 16, 2007 9:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont know why they did not bring in KOS to replace Hector on the 78 card?
by Ro-J on Oct 16, 2007 10:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree Insain, and I am surprised that Kos didn’t mention the holding the shorts, its not like he can say he didnt watch the tape.
by Ro-J on Oct 16, 2007 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe if he goes to the WEC or somewhere else – he will never hold the UFC title – never – i would and will bet against fitch everytime he goes against a top 3 WW
I would be very happy to take you up on this bet. Just let me know when, and for how much. Top 3 being GSP, Hughes and Serra I presume, correct? GSP is the only opponent where I see Fitch being an underdog, and a rather small underdog at that.
by ViolentMike on Oct 16, 2007 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oskarbravo, Kos is not a threat to GSP, hejust wants to try to cement himself as GSP’s rival, that way he won’t be to far from the action.
GSP’s got better rivalries and Kos your a flash in the pan. think about it. Kos is more of a threat than: Penn, Hughes and Karo.
You only got up in contention for beating an undefeated Diego (who is also over rated) riding your notarratity on the tuf show. Lets face it you won that fight by not fighting.
Fitch desrved a shot before Kos did, I thought. But he does a great job at selling his fights. I will give him that.
by Ro-J on Oct 16, 2007 10:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Violent Mike! Can you or anyone else explain to me what the hell was the point in spending all that money to purchase PRIDE, when many Pride fighters are not joining the UFC. How is Fedor allowed to sign with another company? I thought that the reason for the Pride purchase was to set up dream matches. Now we got guys like Gomi, Fedor, Soukoudjou all signing with other companies. Weren’t the Pride fighters assets of the Pride Company. When you purchase a company you get all it’s assets. Can any one please explain to me how fighters like Fedor and Gomi can just go sign with other companies.
I would say that those fighters either had no fights left on their Pride contracts, or their contracts included a provision stating that the contract could not be assigned to another promoter. In the second case, the UFC definitely would have known which contracts were excluded from the Pride sale.
by cmon on Oct 16, 2007 10:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn, GSP really beat some humbleness into this guy.
by bostonmmajunkie on Oct 16, 2007 11:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just cause he has one decent interview don’t start treating him like he’s mother effing teresa. for all his newfound humility i credit GSP. that smackdown really made koscheck give his head a shake. after that maybe he’s decided to grow up and deal with the reality that he is still a ways from the top.
by Hardcase on Oct 16, 2007 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if this is all true or not, but I have heard that Japanese buisiness aren’t regulated by the same kind of laws, and that Pride didn’t disclose which fighter’s had exclusive contract and which didn’t. Some of the due dilligance that should have happened didn’t because of the legal differences.
by TRavis on Oct 16, 2007 11:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would say that those fighters either had no fights left on their Pride contracts, or their contracts included a provision stating that the contract could not be assigned to another promoter. In the second case, the UFC definitely would have known which contracts were excluded from the Pride sale.
Thanks Cmon and violentmike for trying to clear this pride purchase mess up for me. Months ago I remember Dana saying that if Fedor goes and fights in anyother organization, he would sue the shit out of Fedor. That led me to believe that Fedor did have fights left on his Pride contract. I never liked Dana white. I appreciate what he has done for this sport. But he is just another sleezy fight promotor he is like the bald, white, Don king. I always LOVED Fedor. But now, I hate Dana even more, but I hope that Dana White sues Fedor into poverty, if possible.
The only next possible options for Fitch’s next opponent would have to be either the looser of the Sera vs. Hughes fight, or Karo if he can beat Chonan. Personally, I believe that Fitch can beat Serra, Hughes, and Karo because he already beat Diego, he wont fight Kos… who is left for him to fight besides the WW champion, which he wont be able to fight until St. Pierre fights the winner of Hughes and Serra match up?
by john on Oct 16, 2007 11:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
even though i’ve always respected koscheck as a fighter i have always made it obvious that i am not a josh koscheck fan, i didn’t like the way he acted after the diego fight and i didn’t like the way he acted on tuf 1, but i’ve liked both interviews he’s done on ufcmania and i’ve gained a little bit of respect for him as a person, he even gave diego some respect for his fight against fitch which i thought was cool since they obviously don’t like each other, props to koscheck for that and to ufcmania for another good interview…
by tha spida on Oct 16, 2007 12:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It doesn’t matter who got the longevity to provide GSP competition, he is so far above anyone in the division, that the only way he looses is to random lucky punch…that anyone in the devision could have. Other then that everyones elses skills will only delay the inevitable stoping by GSP.
by MMA_MIND on Oct 16, 2007 1:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
even though i’ve always respected koscheck as a fighter i have always made it obvious that i am not a josh koscheck fan, i didn’t like the way he acted after the diego fight and i didn’t like the way he acted on tuf 1, but i’ve liked both interviews he’s done on ufcmania and i’ve gained a little bit of respect for him as a person, he even gave diego some respect for his fight against fitch which i thought was cool since they obviously don’t like each other, props to koscheck for that and to ufcmania for another good interview…
The only reason he gave Diego props against Fitch is because he finally realizes that Diego wasn’t healthy when they fought and when they fight again, Diego will roll him. That’s if Diego stays at WW. I also agree that Fitch is a beast and I would rank him as the #2 WW in the UFC right now behind GSP. Fitch will fight one more time and roll whoever he fights and then it will be GSP vs. Fitch for the WW title in late summer/ early fall 2008.
by Droopking on Oct 16, 2007 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know how you can hate Kos after reading these interviews.
I understand his fighting style is boring and so are his fights, but the kid is trying to become a well rounded fighter and he is trying to make the changes to prove that he is an exciting fighter and I give him credit.
I like Koscheck, I always have, even though his fights can be god awful, he still has a great personality.
WAR KOSCHECK.
by "Mr. NC-17" on Oct 16, 2007 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good interview for the most part but how does kos thinks the fight was close is beyond me, gsp made him look bad how’s that a close fight? He was on his back(something no ones being able to do before) for most of the fight, not close at all. Round 2 and 3 were total domination only round one was close with gsp holding kos down twice as long as kos held gsp down. The diego/fitch fight was close not gsp/kos, gsp dominated him but to his credit didn’t destroy him like he did to hughes,sherk and trigg other wrestlers. Also to his credit he looked much better on his feet than hughes did and was able to get gsp down once something hughes couldn’t do in there last fight. I really think kos is lucky gsp took him down so much because I feel if it was left on the feet gsp would have eventually t(ko)ed kos and finished him. Both gsp and kos have similar submission skills with gsp being slightly better, next time gsp will finish kos if they ever fight again.
by nathan on Oct 16, 2007 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“I don’t know how you can hate Kos after reading these interviews.”
Kos is not exactly my favorite fighter. Nobody would be talking about Kos if he hadn’t beat Diego. Not that Diego’s win over Koscheck was impressive, but Diego is known for beating guys like Nick Diaz, Karo Parisyan, and Joe Riggs- Koscheck is known for beating Sanchez and for being the training partner of Jon Fitch who also now has beat Sanchez. I don’t like Koscheck because I am insulted by what his fans claim, that he is so developed, well rounded, when he is a lay n pray style wrestler, who, to me, would not get the “developing mma artist” wrap if not for a few ignorant commentators like Joe Rogan.
Watch Koscheck’s victory over Jeff Joslin and tell me that’s a well rounded, quickly developing, mma artist. That fight makes that statement look laughable.
by skatanicus on Oct 16, 2007 3:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
KOS did act like a bitch during TUF 1 in regards to Leben, but like i said, you can really see whats inside someone when they lose and come back with more respect for the competition. Kos is a getting better and i love how with the proliferation of the UFC we get to see these fighters grow up before our eyes.
by My-Quit on Oct 16, 2007 7:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Cmon and violentmike for trying to clear this pride purchase mess up for me. Months ago I remember Dana saying that if Fedor goes and fights in anyother organization, he would sue the shit out of Fedor. That led me to believe that Fedor did have fights left on his Pride contract. I never liked Dana white. I appreciate what he has done for this sport. But he is just another sleezy fight promotor he is like the bald, white, Don king. I always LOVED Fedor. But now, I hate Dana even more, but I hope that Dana White sues Fedor into poverty, if possible.
The only next possible options for Fitch’s next opponent would have to be either the looser of the Sera vs. Hughes fight, or Karo if he can beat Chonan. Personally, I believe that Fitch can beat Serra, Hughes, and Karo because he already beat Diego, he wont fight Kos… who is left for him to fight besides the WW champion, which he wont be able to fight until St. Pierre fights the winner of Hughes and Serra match up?
I read(about a year and a half ago) that Fedor signed a 4 year contract with Pride fc.(it was on pridefc.com)
Fedor commented that he would stay pride because they had the best fighters. Then about a year later Zuffa bought Pride.
I dont know why if he had signed a 4year contract, that when UFC bought Pride he would be a free-agent?? dont make sense to me??
Did anyone else read that 4 year contract thing on Pridefc.com??
Do you know UFCMania??
by Stagger-Lee on Oct 16, 2007 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“I don’t know how you can hate Kos after reading these interviews.”
Kos is not exactly my favorite fighter. Nobody would be talking about Kos if he hadn’t beat Diego. Not that Diego’s win over Koscheck was impressive, but Diego is known for beating guys like Nick Diaz, Karo Parisyan, and Joe Riggs- Koscheck is known for beating Sanchez and for being the training partner of Jon Fitch who also now has beat Sanchez. I don’t like Koscheck because I am insulted by what his fans claim, that he is so developed, well rounded, when he is a lay n pray style wrestler, who, to me, would not get the “developing mma artist” wrap if not for a few ignorant commentators like Joe Rogan.
Watch Koscheck’s victory over Jeff Joslin and tell me that’s a well rounded, quickly developing, mma artist. That fight makes that statement look laughable.
Kos is not exactly my favorite fighter either, I’m really glad GSP beat him convincingly but, 9 Wins, 1 KO’s, 4 submission, 4 decisions, 2 Losses… and he hung in there tough with GSP… looks pretty well rounded to me and he’s getting better all the time.
by Thorazine on Oct 16, 2007 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy Shit Mania! good thing i didn’t held my breath…i would be embalmed and six feet under right now after a semi private viewing. Kos Knows whats up, and getting past his over confident front he’s finally coming clean us all who he really is. The entire fact that recognizes who the top athlete(s) are in that division says alot…to me anyways…
Bottom line: Fitch, given his size over Diego, should have dominated and destroyed Sanchez…Fitch is huge but GSP or Hughes can totally neutralize him as well both have the capacity to control the fight…Fitch is most def top tier…but AKA will never produce a champ….never
by Jordan on Oct 16, 2007 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Koscheck has many hats. Good interview.
by ajadoniz on Oct 16, 2007 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
" I don’t like Koscheck because I am insulted by what his fans claim, that he is so developed, well rounded, when he is a lay n pray style wrestler, who, to me, would not get the “developing mma artist” wrap if not for a few ignorant commentators like Joe Rogan.
Watch Koscheck’s victory over Jeff Joslin and tell me that’s a well rounded, quickly developing, mma artist. That fight makes that statement look laughable.
The guy can only show us what he can do and how he’s progressed one fight at a time. I think he’s done that. There has been improvement with each fight, you can’t honestly sit there and tell me he’s the same fighter he was on tuf1. I guy has only been at this for 3 years. All of the other top WW’s have been at it for 6 years. You don’t think that makes a difference? Diego and Hughes been at it how long and they still don’t have a solid striking game. Kos said it himself in the post interview after the Diego fight that he has a long way to and he has to work extra hard to catch up to everyone in the weight class and everyone who has been training longer. I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone call him well rounded- ever. Not even Joe Rogan- only that he has a phenomenal base and that he’s learning a fast clip. You can see the guy is not only willing but IS doing the work he needs to do- keep working on his striking, he has a purple belt in bjj and needs to move up to at least brown (which he’s close to doing)and add muay thai as he stated he add 6 months ago. And now he knows he can’t ignore wrestling even though he’s already so good at it. What else do you want from him?
by SulaPeace on Oct 16, 2007 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Impressive…. KOS picked up more than just an MMA lesson from GSP. He handled this interview with class. You are now a man among men sir!
by DJ on Oct 16, 2007 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And I agree with Jordan, Fitch is top tier and I don’t undertand why anyone would doubt his ability to win the title
by SulaPeace on Oct 16, 2007 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I still dont care for Koscheck, I still don’t think he is anywhere one of the top 10 WW in the world. His wrestling achievements mean nothing in MMA there where credidted to him agains wrestlers and his non fight with diego was an embarassement to our sport. How it granted him a fight for a title shot is beyond me.
I love St-Pierre but that was an easy win for him. He worked harder in the sherk, pen and Karo fights.
who in the top 5 has Kos beat to get so much exposure, he doesn’t put on exciting fights. The guy is just what Dana would like for a poster boy. Trying to be cool doesnt make you a MMA great, so get him out of the title picture until he earns his spot there. beating Diego means nothing!
by Ro-J on Oct 16, 2007 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here are some fights that matter in the WW division and Kos isnt on any of them. of course I still consider BJ a WW.
BJ Penn VS. Matt Hughes 3( if Hughes loses to Serra)
Karo VS. Fitch (if Karo can win at UFC 78)
Mike Swick VS. Marcus Davis
I mean Kos could fight Diego again but who cares to that again?
The reason I can’t put himm in there is cause 2 of his teamtes are in the same division and he doesnt want to fight them or Karo.
by Ro-J on Oct 16, 2007 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont know why they did not bring in KOS to replace Hector on the 78 card?
They should have, I don’t know why they didn’t. But you never know what Oz (Dana) has in mind. KOS needs another good test.
by SulaPeace on Oct 16, 2007 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Who says KOS doesn’t want to fight Karo? He said he’d fight anyone and he wants to fight top guys, doesn’t that include Karo?
by SulaPeace on Oct 16, 2007 10:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe if he goes to the WEC or somewhere else – he will never hold the UFC title – never – i would and will bet against fitch everytime he goes against a top 3 WW
You are perhaps taking a bet with the most potential for disaster. Fitch and GSP are the best fighters in the WW division. Kos is getting better, Hughes just doesnt have the same kind of striking arsenal as these other guys, Matt Serra?? I’ll tell ya more about him after December( He’s too questionable at the moment), Parysian is great but can be worn down. Just curious what would make you want to bet against Jon Fitch? The man has no weaknesses whatsoever.
by c-war on Oct 17, 2007 12:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kos and Hughes would be a good fight. I wanna say Kos would win but experience would be a def problem there though. That fight can go either way. We’ll see what Kos is like in his next fight.
by SulaPeace on Oct 17, 2007 8:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here are some fights that matter in the WW division and Kos isnt on any of them. of course I still consider BJ a WW.
BJ Penn VS. Matt Hughes 3( if Hughes loses to Serra)
Karo VS. Fitch (if Karo can win at UFC 78)
Mike Swick VS. Marcus Davis
I mean Kos could fight Diego again but who cares to that again?
The reason I can’t put himm in there is cause 2 of his teamtes are in the same division and he doesnt want to fight them or Karo.
I think Davis would maul Swick. And I like Swick, but I was so impressed with Davis’ chin at UFC 75. That guy showed alot of heart. Fitch is an animal and can beat everyone listed there and he can beat Kos at this point hands down. They can avoid each other for a while, but not forever. If those payouts are accurate (the ones for UFC 74) I wouldn’t want to risk a friendship and excellent training partner either. Look at what Kos has to gain by training with Fitch; nobody in their right mind would give that up over 10k. Kos and Diego again-eh? I guess it has to happen. Kos had to beat the Diego that showed up for the Fitch fight, period. That’s the only he’ll get that monkey off his back permanently.
by SulaPeace on Oct 17, 2007 8:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was never a big fan of Kos, but after reading this article I respect him more. I’m looking forward to his next fight. I’m not sure if he can take out one of the top welter weights, but it’ll be an exciting fight.
by GriffinFan05 on Oct 17, 2007 9:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Violent Mike! Can you or anyone else explain to me what the hell was the point in spending all that money to purchase PRIDE, when many Pride fighters are not joining the UFC. How is Fedor allowed to sign with another company? I thought that the reason for the Pride purchase was to set up dream matches. Now we got guys like Gomi, Fedor, Soukoudjou all signing with other companies. Weren’t the Pride fighters assets of the Pride Company. When you purchase a company you get all it’s assets. Can any one please explain to me how fighters like Fedor and Gomi can just go sign with other companies.
I read(about a year and a half ago) that Fedor signed a 4 year contract with Pride fc.(it was on pridefc.com)
Fedor commented that he would stay pride because they had the best fighters. Then about a year later Zuffa bought Pride.
I dont know why if he had signed a 4year contract, that when UFC bought Pride he would be a free-agent?? dont make sense to me??
Did anyone else read that 4 year contract thing on Pridefc.com??
Do you know UFCMania??
by Stagger-Lee on Oct 17, 2007 9:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that kos should fight the loser of hughes vs. serra. I have always wanted to see kos vs hughes and i personally think that kos would beat hughes fairly easily. I think he would have a few more problems with serra because of serra punching power and outstanding bjj though i think he could pull that one out. I would also like to see kos fight diego again since diego came into that fight in very poor health. I think a healthy dieo vs kos would prove a much more exciting and competitive fight.
Who would u guys want to see kos fight next?
by matt on Oct 17, 2007 11:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
kos is a stand up guy and i cant wait see his next fight which will hopefully be against a top level oppenent. i would love to see him fight matt hughes
by matt on Oct 17, 2007 11:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
KOS says he thinks he can beat Serra (so do I), though I think Matt is right about his punching power etc. It only takes one punch. I really want to see what happens in the Hughes fight. Serra has run hot and cold- I don’t think he’s a top 10 guy though. I think KOS vs. Karo, Hughes, Diego, and Serra… Even Alves or Carniero – those guys aren’t walk throughs- would good opponents to show off his skills and prove himself. 2-3 wins vs. any of those 6 will get him a title shot w/ GSP when he gets the belt back. Penn would be a good fight though I know KOS trained with him when he was preparing for the Diego fight and BJ probably would stick around 170. Jake Shields would also be great if he can get a UFC contract and not renew w/ EliteXC.
by SulaPeace on Oct 17, 2007 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think that kos should fight the loser of hughes vs. serra. I have always wanted to see kos vs hughes and i personally think that kos would beat hughes fairly easily. I think he would have a few more problems with serra because of serra punching power and outstanding bjj though i think he could pull that one out. I would also like to see kos fight diego again since diego came into that fight in very poor health. I think a healthy dieo vs kos would prove a much more exciting and competitive fight.
Who would u guys want to see kos fight next?
Fitch would be my number one pick, that would be a wicked fight, but they probably wouldn’t fight each other. My second would be karo, another very cool fight.
by nathan on Oct 17, 2007 1:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe if he goes to the WEC or somewhere else – he will never hold the UFC title – never – i would and will bet against fitch everytime he goes against a top 3 WW
Haahaa, I think your screen name of Insaine is appropriate here. He’s 7-0 with 15 wins in a row and you want to send him the WEC? Just let me know how much and when ;)
by TonyDrip on Oct 17, 2007 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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