Well stated Brandon

YYEEAAAHHHH!!!! Praying for Vera! GO Vera

PS FIRST POST!!!!

This one could go either way. Tim knows how to “win” and he’s tough to finish…(Arlovski, Coture) I do think that Vera is a wiz, but if it goes to 3, I think Tim will have the advantage because of his stature. I’d like to see Vera back in the hunt though.

SECOND!!

This is going to be a tough match-up for sure, and Slyvia is no walk through.

Its goign to be interesting to see how Tim has been training considering back surgery on a person his size takes alot longer to heal than normal.

This might just be a snooze fest to be honest. Because Vera is going to have to feel out Slyvia due to his height and reach advantage, and Slyvia might not be 100% and he might believe the hype and he is not wanting to lose 2 straight.

Going to be.. interesting.

but on that hand

WAR VERA! I paid for this fight, I better see a knockout =;p

Vera via knock-out first round

The Truth Hurts.

Vera via knock-out first round

im with ya.believe me vera is the next big thing in mma.behind randy and fedor i think hes the third best in the world already.a lot of u will laugh but u watch come 77.i think the winner out of kongo/minatauro fights randy but if his arm isnt healed properly why not put the winners of these two fights in an elimination match.anyone know randys condition?

Vera has been overwhelmed before. Check it out.
I can’t find the figh..But it was in the UFC. He was getting owned for a min or 2.Don’t get me wrong., Vera will dominate this fight, and i hope he knock’s out ol Timmy.

I think Sylvia is going to win this one. I’m not a big fan of either fighter but I do believe that people have been a little harsh on Sylvia. He’s got great standup and I think he’ll put vera to sleep.

Vera is a killer.. Silvia stop being a killer since cabbage..and Ricco. Vera is more technical on the ground and standing..Tim has the height and reach which can is hard to deal with. Vera will deal with it in a crafty way. This fight should stay out of the judges hands. Vera..submission or TKO.

i think this is the first real test for vera,when he beats frank mir,mir was already came from accident,& mir wasnt the same fighter anymore like he was when he beat silvia, im not taking away the credit for brandon vera but thats “The Truth”..

im a vera fan,but i still doubt him a little bit about being one of the toughest HW. but winning against silvia,especially in convincing fashion,it will says it all..

This statement makes Vera look like a 15year old with the ‘everyone can shut the hell up.’

But he wants his test to show he is ready for prime time, here it is.

Go VERA. Go PINOY!

anyone know who is gonna take lombards place against karo?

i just hope vera wins..period.

Silvia stop being a killer since cabbage..and Ricco

I think he stopped being a Killer after his first win against Arlovski. ALthough, he did not look overly impressive against Assuerio Silva, but then again, I have NEVER seen Assuerio Silva in a good or entertaining fight.

As far as this fight goes, I will be rooting for Vera! I want him to win and knock big Timmy senseless. Or if Big Timmy does win, I hope he knocks Vera senseless. I don’t want to see this fight go to a decision. Both of these guys deserve to get KO’d, so one of them better, preferably Timmy.

Vera will lose via ring rust.

brandon vera.1st round submission.

So if Vera loses does that make a statement to the contrary, and Vera will listen to everyone and go down to 205?

Vera can hang’ with the big boys. The “Truth Hurts”…

Vera has been put on UFC’s hype wagon. He thinks he’s bigger than he is & his arrogant attitude has kept him out of the octagon for 11 mos. Big deal, Frank Mir??? He’s going to sleep against Tim.

vera wants to be the first fighter to hold both hw and lhw belts consecutively.wether dana lets this happen/if the truth can do it is another matter.id back him.

As long as Tim Sylvia doesn’t win by flash KO! We don’t want the bore back to being champ. Vera is a lot more interesting fighter, he just needs to stop acting half his age :) I’d prefer to see Vera vs Kongo or big Nog. Actually the fight I’d really like to see is Vera vs Barnett, two cocky trashtalkers with some skill…

Vera has been put on UFC’s hype wagon. He thinks he’s bigger than he is & his arrogant attitude has kept him out of the octagon for 11 mos. Big deal, Frank Mir??? He’s going to sleep against Tim.

I don’t get your comment, you yourself admit Vera has dissappeared for 11 months, so how can he possibly on the UFC hype wagon? What do you base that statement on? The only hype about this guy is that he has an exciting style which quickly gets the better of usually much bigger opponents.

Anyway I would like to see Brandon Vera drop to 205, o many exciting fights waiting for him there.

Rampage Vs The Truth
Wanderlei Vs The Truth
Shogun Vs The Truth (well Shogun at his best)

vera wants to be the first fighter to hold both hw and lhw belts consecutively.wether dana lets this happen/if the truth can do it is another matter.id back him.

He won’t even get close to one, muchless two.

I don’t get your comment, you yourself admit Vera has dissappeared for 11 months, so how can he possibly on the UFC hype wagon? What do you base that statement on? The only hype about this guy is that he has an exciting style which quickly gets the better of usually much bigger opponents.

Anyway I would like to see Brandon Vera drop to 205, o many exciting fights waiting for him there.

Rampage Vs The Truth
Wanderlei Vs The Truth
Shogun Vs The Truth (well Shogun at his best)

Sylvia stopped being a killer since he stopped the roids. He was a monster when he was roided up now he is a below average fighter.

Vera has been put on UFC’s hype wagon. He thinks he’s bigger than he is & his arrogant attitude has kept him out of the octagon for 11 mos. Big deal, Frank Mir??? He’s going to sleep against Tim.

I second that. The time spent out of the octagon will show in Vera. Things move at a fast pace in this sport. It seems like time away has not been good for other fighters and I think Vera is no exception.I’m not a big timmy fan, but I like to see people over come and come back, so good luck to the Maniac.

vera wants to be the first fighter to hold both hw and lhw belts consecutively.wether dana lets this happen/if the truth can do it is another matter.id back him.

Consecutively (one right after another) or concurrently (at the same time)? Either way, as talented as Brandon Vera is, he needs to take it one step at a time. We know what happens when a talented fighter makes big plans for himself (ahem BJ Penn ahem).

And here’s some fun MMA math: Vera stopped Mir with a kick. Mir stopped Sylvia by breaking his arm. So that means Vera is gonna stop Tim by breaking his arm with a kick!

You have to love a guy like Vera. He is a little conceded, but he speaks honestly and with a real perspective. I am calling this as RD 1 TKO on the ground about 4 minutes in

Consecutively (one right after another) or concurrently (at the same time)? Either way, as talented as Brandon Vera is, he needs to take it one step at a time. We know what happens when a talented fighter makes big plans for himself (ahem BJ Penn ahem).

And here’s some fun MMA math: Vera stopped Mir with a kick. Mir stopped Sylvia by breaking his arm. So that means Vera is gonna stop Tim by breaking his arm with a kick!

i think he outstrikes shogun/silva but rampage out powers him.page is a silverback.

Are you serious Vera would get desrtoyed by Wanderlei and a healthy Shogun. Have you ever seen Wanderlei fight or Shogun actually fight. Don’t forget that Wanderlei knocked-out Ramage two times and Shogun ran through him without trying.

I’d like to see Tim, the neanderthal, get his ass kicked again. He’s done after this fight, watch the fatty do a severe downward spiral. He’s on his way out the door!

Are you serious Vera would get desrtoyed by Wanderlei and a healthy Shogun. Have you ever seen Wanderlei fight or Shogun actually fight. Don’t forget that Wanderlei knocked-out Ramage two times and Shogun ran through him without trying.

Old tim definitely won’t be a push over and will give vera the fight of his life. He’s going to be desperate and hungrier than ever, I think its going to be a war. I also think the rich/silva fight will surprise a lot of watchers and go much different than expected, and also be a war, my two cents we’ll fight out soon enough though.

I’m just wondering what he’ll do if tim does beat the crap out of him, will he consider 205 then?

Vera doesn’t need to drop down to 205.
He is fine as a HW. Vera is traing with Rampage, and especially Juanito.. He just needs to work on cardio and he went to the right place.
Personally’ I think Brandon WILL be HW champ one day. He is a very skilled fighter.
Once the Randy/Fedor thing is settled, Vera will be champ.
Ive watched Vera pretty much from the get go(a few fights before ufc) I knew he would eventually end up in the UFC, and he did. He has what it takes to be the best. Now that all his personal sh*t is all cleared up, and he is now good friends with Rampage(one of the best in the world) and training by Juanito, he will be even better then before.

Brandon would dominate the 205 divison, as much as i like Page.. Vera would beat him too(but i dont think they would fight)
Brandon Knows this, and so do many people “the truth hurts”
He would rather give himself more competition by staying HW, he knows he would be LHW champ if he wanted too, but he dosn’t.
He wants to bang with the big boys. respect to Vera

Don’t forget that Wanderlei knocked-out Ramage two times and Shogun ran through him without trying.

But now when Shogun fights “without trying” he can’t even come close to competing with Forrest Griffin. If that same Shogun fought Rampage, Shogun would be in the hospital for many more reasons than his knee!

Brandon is the Tito of the heavyweights. I really don’t like Vera or Sylvia but I really hope Timmy crushes Brandon and sends hime to 205.

Rampage would rape Brandon at 205.

All Vera has done is beat B and C level fighters and talk all whole lot of trash. I hope Timmy sends him home in a stretcher.

Vera is cocky and confident with no credentials to back it up thus far fighting absolutley no talented fighters yet in the ufc. Timmy is big slow and finds boring ways to win as of late but still has fought some top talent whether he won or lost those fight doesn’t matter he atleast has had more experience against better talent. It makes my stomach hurt even justifying anything for Timmy S or Brandon Vera they can both spotaniously combust in the ring never to be seen again and I would be more then happy. You can argue till your blue in the face how exciting Vera is and blah blah blah but the fact of the matter is There is plenty of other guys in the ufc that are exciting to watch and don’t have the attitude of Vera. The ufc has done jsut fine without him so far over the past 11 months who cares tat he is back now. That the truth and it hurts!

nobody els can see that brandon vera’s Ego is way to big for this fight…. he is in for a suprise…and yes all fighter have ego’s but this one is bigger than tito’s..and thats bad

Brandon is the Tito of the heavyweights. I really don’t like Vera or Sylvia but I really hope Timmy crushes Brandon and sends hime to 205.

i did not read that befor i posted… frizz you read my mind

it was three years ago that Silva knocked Rampage out, and it will be three years in April since Rua knocked him out. That’s a long time for a fighter to up his clinch defense. I think Rampage would destroy Rua now, and I’m not sure how he would do against Wandi, but I think it would be a much different fight this time around. As far as Vera, I think Wandi would be a bit much for him, he’s a little bit more explosive than Vera is used to. opposite of fat lazy Tim. The way shogun looked against Forest, i think my mother could take him. I know he had an injury or whatever, but he looked like crap. I think vera should hang around the bigger, slower ( except for Randy, of couse) hw’s. The LHW is too stacked already. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. He’s undefeated, if he beats Tim, why not stay at HW

nobody els can see that brandon vera’s Ego is way to big for this fight…. he is in for a suprise…and yes all fighter have ego’s but this one is bigger than tito’s..and thats bad

 He’s not cocky, he’s Confident…True scrapper

A lot of you guys are putting the cart before the horse. Aside from Mir, who has Vera fought worth a damn? Guy has a lot to prove…

Tim also has a lot to prove… He needs to make a statement and show he deserves to be considered to regain his title. Yeah, Randy was right… Tim is fighting not to lose… instead of trying to win.

Vera wins by sneaking a pin into the ring in his shorts and puncturing Big Tim’s inner tube.

Too all who thinks a 11mth layoff will hurt him. Remember thats how long Randy was off when he fought Timmy.

Im a Brandon Vera fan, but I think that he hasn’t really proved anything in the UFC yet. He has the potential and all the tools to become a hell of a fighter, and I think that he will be. But he has a lot to prove. I will agree with him, that if he beats the biggest Heavyweight around it will put all the size disadvantage talk to rest. Especially if he can finish Sylvia by KO or submission.

Let me say, that I absolutly hate Tim “Webbed feet” Sylvia. But he is a tough opponent especially for the smallest guy in the division. Sylvia isn’t old, he is still in his prime and I expect him too fight good against Verra. If you stop and think about it Tim is a good fighter, who has performed well. He really only envolved in snoozefests in Title fights. He usually shows up for regular 3 rd fights. I think he is so worried about loosing his title that he just shuts down. Without a title being on the line and not much to loose, since by now he only has like 2 fans left, I expect Tim to come out and Bang. If Vera can finish a none snoozefest Tim Sylvia, it will make a huge statement to everyone in the UFC’s HW division.

This fight can help start to verify that the Hype might be real! This is by far the biggest fight of his life… I hope he can perform up to the expectations.

Just cause he hasn’t fought top competitors, doesn’t exclude him of being a top competitor. It just means we have to wait and see him fight a one or two to put it on paper, and this is perfect for him.

Tim is tough to knock out or submit, but Vera will win b/c he is a more rounded fighter with a lot in his arsenal. Tim will be exposed as the one to two dimensional fighter that he is. Though, those dimension are strong for Tim, it won’t be enough.

I likes what Vera said on the commercial..
“don’t beleive the hype, beleive what you see”
I would agree that a dominating win for either puts them next up for the next title fight.

Go Vera! Hope he gets him, I can’t stand Sylvia he looks like a big retard. If Sylvia beats Vera he might as well drop down to 205. That will just prove that there is no one in the HW division that can touch Randy till fedor gets here

Vera has been overwhelmed before. Check it out.
I can’t find the figh..But it was in the UFC. He was getting owned for a min or 2.Don’t get me wrong., Vera will dominate this fight, and i hope he knock’s out ol Timmy.

I’ve seen all his fights in the UFC and I cant say i remember him ever being in any serious trouble.

i would love to see crocop vs vera. Does anyone think CC could have a chance against him? So is Cro Cop retired now or is he still gona finish out his contract

He’s finishing his contract in a shameful manner, then retiring. RIP CC. He will be remembered.

Vera has dominated his last 3 or 4 fights like no other.
He has stopped them all quicker than anyone has ever stopped any of them.

Also the win percentage of Vera apponents the past two yrs is better then: Coutures, Kongo, GG, Cro Cop and Tim Sylvia.

Vera is going to run thru Tim IMO. Tim was almost koed by Couture, Koed by Arlovsky and Vera has great strikes with his hands and feet.

Sylvia is a bad match up for any one the guy is huge and strong. when you have those two gifts no one really wants to fight you. Vera will definitely be scared and intimidated especially when sylvia towers over him in the star down.

Vera’s strikes will have no effect accept a bothersome slap on tim. After this fight Vera will annonce that he is dropping down to LH.

i would love to see crocop vs vera. Does anyone think CC could have a chance against him? So is Cro Cop retired now or is he still gona finish out his contract

hey adam here you go. http://www.mmanews.com/ufc/CroCop-Has-Successful-Surgery-Still-Focused-On-Title.html

I hope he does better now. still love watching CC fight.

I am not a big fan of Brandon Vera, but definately a fan. So far I’ve rooted for him in all of his fights. On the otherhand, I’ve never really been a fan of Timmy, I mean, who has? But even with that aside, I would root for Vera in this fight. The reason being that Timmy fights not to lose, especially in big fights. This is what makes for extremely boring fights. Then you have Brandon Vera who is looking to end the fight from the moment the bell rings, which makes for an extemely exciting fight. So, expecially since the winner of this fight will be in title CONTENTION, and fighting against the big names, I want Vera to win so we can expect to see another exciting fight.

Hey mania i found this on mma.com can you tell me if this fight is gonna happenn because this sounds like the fight is gonna happen

 http://www.mmanews.com/ufc/Liddell-Trainer-Says-Silva-Fight-Is-On-For-December.html

I am not a big fan of Brandon Vera, but definately a fan. So far I’ve rooted for him in all of his fights. On the otherhand, I’ve never really been a fan of Timmy, I mean, who has? But even with that aside, I would root for Vera in this fight. The reason being that Timmy fights not to lose, especially in big fights. This is what makes for extremely boring fights. Then you have Brandon Vera who is looking to end the fight from the moment the bell rings, which makes for an extemely exciting fight. So, expecially since the winner of this fight will be in title CONTENTION, and fighting against the big names, I want Vera to win so we can expect to see another exciting fight.

VM..I totally agree.

Vera has dominated his last 3 or 4 fights like no other.
He has stopped them all quicker than anyone has ever stopped any of them.

Also the win percentage of Vera apponents the past two yrs is better then: Coutures, Kongo, GG, Cro Cop and Tim Sylvia.

Vera is going to run thru Tim IMO. Tim was almost koed by Couture, Koed by Arlovsky and Vera has great strikes with his hands and feet.

Yeah thats all fine and dandy but how an you compare vera’s domination in his last couple fighs against plugs to by trying to justify guys he has fought fighting percentages?? they were fighting nobodys. So if Randy retires today should the guys that have a higher winning percentage go into the hall of fame beacause you are implieing that they are good fighters after all they have a higher winning percentage right?? ………alright hopefully that pause let you actually think about what you are trying to say which is ridiculous. Well my boxing coach has four pro fights and is 4-0 so in your perspective he is better then oscar de la hoya because oscar dropped his last fight…..? I actually have 3 amatuer fights with a 3-0 record so am I better then some of the olympic boxers who fight amatuer as well?? hahahahaaha I hope you see where I am going with this. I realize he is probably your favourite fighter and hate seeing everyone take shots at him on here but it happens to all of our fav fighters everyone is a critic.

That’s “the truth”!

Sylvia is a bad match up for any one the guy is huge and strong. when you have those two gifts no one really wants to fight you.

So is Bob Sapp, Kimbo Slice, Tank Abbott, Butterbean. I’m citing extreme cases here, I know Tim has more talent than these guys combined. But Tim is gonna have to bring it. Bringing his big ass body won’t be enough, he’s gonna need every single tool he has to stand a chance.

Too all who thinks a 11mth layoff will hurt him. Remember thats how long Randy was off when he fought Timmy.

Comparing Vera to The Natural, you’ve got to be kidding, what planet is your spaceship from?

I am not a big fan of Brandon Vera, but definately a fan. So far I’ve rooted for him in all of his fights. On the otherhand, I’ve never really been a fan of Timmy, I mean, who has? But even with that aside, I would root for Vera in this fight. The reason being that Timmy fights not to lose, especially in big fights. This is what makes for extremely boring fights. Then you have Brandon Vera who is looking to end the fight from the moment the bell rings, which makes for an extemely exciting fight. So, expecially since the winner of this fight will be in title CONTENTION, and fighting against the big names, I want Vera to win so we can expect to see another exciting fight.

youre right and Tim has been feeling this heat and criticism ever since Orlovski/sylvia III and Monson fight. I think because of that he is ganna press the action on vera and force the fight. And if he doesnt he should find another line of work.

Yeah thats all fine and dandy but how an you compare vera’s domination in his last couple fighs against plugs to by trying to justify guys he has fought fighting percentages?? they were fighting nobodys. So if Randy retires today should the guys that have a higher winning percentage go into the hall of fame beacause you are implieing that they are good fighters after all they have a higher winning percentage right?? ………alright hopefully that pause let you actually think about what you are trying to say which is ridiculous. Well my boxing coach has four pro fights and is 4-0 so in your perspective he is better then oscar de la hoya because oscar dropped his last fight…..? I actually have 3 amatuer fights with a 3-0 record so am I better then some of the olympic boxers who fight amatuer as well?? hahahahaaha I hope you see where I am going with this. I realize he is probably your favourite fighter and hate seeing everyone take shots at him on here but it happens to all of our fav fighters everyone is a critic.

A Number of them went up against Tim Sylvia Ausserio Sylva and Eillers both had fights Vs Sylvia and AA. Both guys were finished by Vera quicker. Hell Sylvia struggled with Ausserio. Frank Mir ect. This isnt the only thing i base my prediction that Vera will win. Its the simple fact Vera is technically better at every aspect of the game. Striking, Wrestling, BJJ, Speed ect. Sylvia has size, he is slow as hell. After the fight you look me up on here my guess is i wotn here from you, I hope you see were I’m going with this.

Everyone will be talking as if they always new Vera was the next big thing and Tim will be considered the can he was before the AA and Couture fights, according to everyone he wouldnt have been ranked in the top 15 in Pride. Problem is people hate to see guys rise so quick, They hated Diego but yet he had some great fights. They hated the fact the TUF guys got alot of attention because for some reason if your on TUF you never really would have made into the UFC anyways. I’m not saying the TUF guys are great, but what we do know is many hate to see the big names fall, but it happens to all of are favorites right?

Anyway I would like to see Brandon Vera drop to 205, o many exciting fights waiting for him there.

Rampage Vs The Truth
Wanderlei Vs The Truth
Shogun Vs The Truth (well Shogun at his best)[/quote]
i think he outstrikes shogun/silva but rampage out powers him.page is a silverback.[/quote]

Are you serious Vera would get desrtoyed by Wanderlei and a healthy Shogun. Have you ever seen Wanderlei fight or Shogun actually fight. Don’t forget that Wanderlei knocked-out Ramage two times and Shogun ran through him without trying.[/quote]

Dude your not the only guy who watches MMA. The other day I was bragging to my friend about my favourite fighter [Shogun] coming to the UFC and how he will put a whole through Forrest Griffin and the rest of the LHW division, so yes I have seen him fight before and I know what he can do.

Acting like it would be no contest if Vera was to fight either Shogun or Wanderlei, is silly when you consider not many people gave Forrest a chance and look what he did. Plus considering Vera’s style and the size of the people he has imposed his will on so far, I don’t think it is so far fetched to give him a reasonable chance of getting the victory.

I don’t like either of these guys, but this thread is definitely pro-Vera. I think it has less to do with Vera being gifted and more to do with Tim Sylvia being one of the most disliked fighters in the brief history of the UFC. I’m a fan like everyone else on this site, and we are ready to anoint someone the “greatest ever” or “the next big thing” each month. Slow down a little. Vera is not going to be heavyweight champ anytime soon, and he hasn’t done a single thing to prove he’s worth half the hype given to him. He is not in the same league as Randy, Fedor, Big Nog, or even Tim Sylvia. He is a couple fights away from being a LHW. Timmy is somehow very underrated. He lost to a decision to Randy, and he’s been submitted by AA and Frank Mir. That’s it. I guess Vera beating Assuerio Silva with a guillotine and knocking out a post-motorcycle accident Frank Mir really impresses people….not me.

TO ALL YOU VERA FANS…..Are you guys kidding me with all this hype? He’s not even in the top 5 heavyweights. Who has he fought…I’m NOBODY! I dislike both fighter, but I will say that I will spend the 40 bucks to pay for this one. Get ready, Tim’s gonna win this one which sends good ol’ Vera to 205 where he’ll literally get crushed. Its ashame that its not Arlovski cracking Brandon’s face in

@Da Spider

Oops I didn’t realise someone had entered a line between my comment and your response, I thought you were asking me if I have ever seen a Shogun fight. But still do you literally believe Shogun and Wanderlei would take him no contest. This isn’t “Heroes” no one is invincible. I’m not saying Vera would kick the crap out of guys, all I’m saying is he will give them a good match. Most (especially those who followed Pride which includes me) thought that Cro Cop would dance his way to the title, yet he could even manage to get to the number one contender position. Is what I’m suggesting that these matches could be exciting and unpredictable that hard to believe?

hey adam here you go. http://www.mmanews.com/ufc/CroCop-Has-Successful-Surgery-Still-Focused-On-Title.html

I hope he does better now. still love watching CC fight.

so does that mean Arlovski vs CroCop could happen. Or maybe Gonzaga vs CroCop.

Big tim has got big reach and big power and vera doesnt ahave the wrestling to use like couture did,…last striker tim fought was arlovski and im damn sure hes a better power striker than vera is ….and he got kod….so this might be me but tim either by ko or decision..i have trouble seeing this go to the decision but after arlovski silvia 3…not so syure any more …..11 months is a long time …and vera is no couture in any way of the game…..

If Vera comes to fight I think he’ll take Tim by Submission but not before DROOLING on him just like the picture in the above post.

TO ALL YOU VERA FANS…..Are you guys kidding me with all this hype? He’s not even in the top 5 heavyweights. Who has he fought…I’m NOBODY! I dislike both fighter, but I will say that I will spend the 40 bucks to pay for this one. Get ready, Tim’s gonna win this one which sends good ol’ Vera to 205 where he’ll literally get crushed. Its ashame that its not Arlovski cracking Brandon’s face in

Why would we be kidding? His skills are very evident. Well actually, he hasn’t even really needed his BJJ skills yet. You can’t recognize a star early in their career? You remind of a Tom Brady hater. He had to win 3 Super Bowls before people finally realized “Wow, this guy is good” lol.

Why would we be kidding? His skills are very evident. Well actually, he hasn’t even really needed his BJJ skills yet. You can’t recognize a star early in their career? You remind of a Tom Brady hater. He had to win 3 Super Bowls before people finally realized “Wow, this guy is good” lol.

I don’t think that analogy makes much sense. Tom Brady has won 3 super bowls….Brandon Vera hasn’t owned a single belt nor has he beaten anyone of consequence. He looks good when he fights, but come on. You’ve seen him out-strike inferior opponents and you’ve heard announcers rave about his submission skills. If you base your opinion of fighters on the things Joe Rogan and Mike Goldberg say, you are an idiot. Those guys hype up every fighter thats steps into the octagon like his is going to be a hall of famer. Upsets happen all the time, but Vera is not as good as Randy, Fedor, Big Nog, Cro Cop, GG, AA, or even Tim Sylvia.

vera is right that it would be a big statement if he(one of the smaller heavyweights) beat sylvia(one of the bigger) but i don’t see it happening, and i think size will be one of the major factors…sylvia fights really smart and he’ll be able to use his size to beat vera…vera has the talent to beat a lot of heavyweights, but will have a hard time against the really big ones like sylvia and because of that should move down to 205…he’d be a very tough fight for any other lhw fighter

Why would we be kidding? His skills are very evident. Well actually, he hasn’t even really needed his BJJ skills yet. You can’t recognize a star early in their career? You remind of a Tom Brady hater. He had to win 3 Super Bowls before people finally realized “Wow, this guy is good” lol.

 " The Truth" is apparently way overated. He is nothing, he is a nobody. Beacause he has fought nobody. He is going to get knocked out in this fight. Then nobody will ever remember this self promoting fighter.

I don’t think that analogy makes much sense. Tom Brady has won 3 super bowls

You completely missed the point! Before Brady won those rings, he had some loyal fans who got laughed at when they told everyone he would be a great QB. Then when he finally proved it, everyone jumped on his nuts. Same thing is happening here with Vera. I’m not saying Vera now = Tom Brady as Super Bowl MVP. I’m saying Vera now = Tom Brady PRE-SUPER BOWL. He will silence the haters soon enough.

" The Truth" is apparently way overated. He is nothing, he is a nobody. Beacause he has fought nobody. He is going to get knocked out in this fight. Then nobody will ever remember this self promoting fighter.

Another one… Everybody starts out fighting nobodies in the UFC. Did you want him to fight Randy in his first fight or something? Even Randy himself fought cans when he started. This is like GSP all over again for me. When he was running through TKO (a Canadian promotion) and when he won his first two UFC fights against a Jay Hieron and (then little-known) Karo, people were like “so what?”. I told people the guy would be a champ someday. I got flamed for that, especially after his first loss to Hughes, but eventually I was proven right. I could tell by watching his performances what skills he had. I don’t just go to Wikipedia and look at a fighter’s record and see who he’s beaten. Here’s a concept: I actually watch and critique the fights.

on an unrelated note, karo vs hector fight is on again.

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Hey Pat. I’m with you buddy. Its like MMA fans can’t see potential talent when its staring them in the face. Anyone who has the skills to even be in the UFC, doesn’t get a cake walk fight. Ask Keith Jardine about some cake walk guy named Houston Alexander. Or how about some unknown kid named Luzon KOing a former Lightweight champ in Jens Pulver. Oh yea, some virtual unknown named Gonzaga KO’d the most highly regarded MMA striker in Cro Cop. I’m sure EVERYONE predicted those three fights to turn out the way they did right?

Come on now!

Vera is undefeated in the octagon. Regardless of who the UFC puts in front of him, he just wins. I think his brash and cocky attitude wins him no friends. But he finishes fights, respects the other fighter when its over, and is entertaining to watch.

Look at the guy’s fight/training bio – Taken from the UFC.com website: a 2x Pan-American Champion, Abu-Dhabi veteran, 8x Grapplers Quest Champion, W.K.A. Muay Thai National champion, Lloyd Irvin Brown Belt.

The guy is a FIGHTER. These are competitions fighters like Matt Hughes, Dean Lister, BJ Penn, Randy and many others have honed their skills in before stepping in the octagon. Vera isn’t some bum on the street.

Like Pat says, we’re seeing a champion ‘in the making’.

Sylvia by KO, end of first if angry.
Sylvia by decision, if not angry.

I am not a big fan of Brandon Vera, but definately a fan. So far I’ve rooted for him in all of his fights. On the otherhand, I’ve never really been a fan of Timmy, I mean, who has? But even with that aside, I would root for Vera in this fight. The reason being that Timmy fights not to lose, especially in big fights. This is what makes for extremely boring fights. Then you have Brandon Vera who is looking to end the fight from the moment the bell rings, which makes for an extemely exciting fight. So, expecially since the winner of this fight will be in title CONTENTION, and fighting against the big names, I want Vera to win so we can expect to see another exciting fight.

I feel you on this one. I’m not really into bashing fighters, but let’s be serious, Tim Silvia does not fight to win, he fight’s not to lose. Just as you put it. That’s why most of his fights are boring….that being said, I respect all fighters because obviously they’ve done something right to make it in to the UFC.

This will be a true test for Vera, and I believe he’s gonna come well prepared. I say Vera, second round submission, possibly a triangle.

Brandon Vera wins Tko via tummy punch!

Vera via knock-out first round

If Couture went 5 rounds with him(could not finish him) and Jeff Monson could not finish him on the ground in 5 rounds, I think it is crazy to think Verra who has been outta work for a year is going to come in and knock him out in 1 round. I would be super impressed at that and I love Verra.

Look guys I dont really like either of these fighters but would like to see tim smash brandon.

Its not gonna be a walk in the park for vera and tim will have his hands full too. If Tim can keep his hands up and let the leather fly ASAP,I think it will be a short fight.

Vera is a phenom. He isn’t as polished as he could be, but has the natural abilities and technique to beat anyone in this division if he doesn’t lose it in the mental game by looking past opponents or pushing the move up the ladder faster than the development of his obvious talents. Vera will beat Sylvia, I have no doubt. Sometimes the Truth is like the fist, it hurts.

I’m going for Brandon Vera 100% knees and elbows on the ground
1st rd ko -hard times for tim

You completely missed the point! Before Brady won those rings, he had some loyal fans who got laughed at when they told everyone he would be a great QB. Then when he finally proved it, everyone jumped on his nuts. Same thing is happening here with Vera. I’m not saying Vera now = Tom Brady as Super Bowl MVP. I’m saying Vera now = Tom Brady PRE-SUPER BOWL. He will silence the haters soon enough.

I doubt anyone that wasn’t a Michigan fan thought he was going to be the greatest clutch QB in football. That would include scouts and NFL front office types because he ended getting picked in the sixth round. We both would have to agree—Tom Brady is an anomaly. I’m not saying Brandon Vera doesn’t have talent—he does. But if you are looking at his physical tools, you have to admit he is somewhat small for a heavyweight. I don’t think that can be ignored.

TO ALL YOU VERA FANS…..Are you guys kidding me with all this hype? He’s not even in the top 5 heavyweights. Who has he fought…I’m NOBODY! I

But you need to keep in mind that Brandon has only had 8 pro mma fights. He had 2 in a small promotion, then 2 in the WEC, then his last 4, and all future fights, in the UFC. So with only 8 pro fights, you expect him to have already fought Randy, Big Nog, and Andrei Arlovski? That’s just crazy talk. That’s the equivalent of the UFC brining in some random guy from a small promotion, who is 5-0 , and have him in a title fight against Randy – that is just ludacrist. Or in a fight against Big Nog. It would never happen. The big names in the Top 5 of the HW division don’t fight newcomers to the UFC. Brandon is working his way up the division. I mean, look at Roger Huerta, he has even more hype than Vera, and he has fought far less superior competition in the UFC than Vera, plus he has had many more pro mma fights than Vera.

well put ViolentMike….

I see the big Ogre taking the fight to be honest .. I hope not though, but Sylvia’s always on a tear when he doesnt have the belt

So when Sylvia shuts down Vera in round 1, will Vera drop down to 177 immediately?

But you need to keep in mind that Brandon has only had 8 pro mma fights. He had 2 in a small promotion, then 2 in the WEC, then his last 4, and all future fights, in the UFC. So with only 8 pro fights, you expect him to have already fought Randy, Big Nog, and Andrei Arlovski? That’s just crazy talk. That’s the equivalent of the UFC brining in some random guy from a small promotion, who is 5-0 , and have him in a title fight against Randy – that is just ludacrist. Or in a fight against Big Nog. It would never happen. The big names in the Top 5 of the HW division don’t fight newcomers to the UFC. Brandon is working his way up the division. I mean, look at Roger Huerta, he has even more hype than Vera, and he has fought far less superior competition in the UFC than Vera, plus he has had many more pro mma fights than Vera.

Hey. You guys can go crazy if you want. The word fan is short for fanaticism….which is generally misplaced enthusiasm. I’m just trying to add a level of common sense and logic back to this thread. Vera hasn’t proved a damn thing. He’s looked good against terrible opponents. He’s also looked small. If he mauls Tim Sylvia, I will be the first to give him his props. There just isn’t much there that would make a reasonable person think he is the next great heavyweight.

If Vera can stay away from a big Tim hay maker, he will win the fight. Tim does have great stand up, but I think he will be to slow.

make filipinos proud brandon!!! peace.. go go go! fight fight fight!