UFC Quick Quote: Fedor talks UFC, Randy Couture

FIrst ONE!~!!

I’ll have to fight him he said. I think Fedor is going to give in and sign with the ufc before the end of the year

Fedor has to fight in the UFC.
I rate him high. But he has to beat some of the UFC heavyweights beore i can consider him #1.

Money’s gonna talk as soon as that Sambo tournament ends. You can’t tell me that he’s gonna turn down a reported $2 million a fight in a Sambo tournament.

I love the sounds of this!!!! here he comes…another month and we should have him…

Money’s gonna talk as soon as that Sambo tournament ends. You can’t tell me that he’s gonna turn down a reported $2 million a fight in a Sambo tournament.

Wow, 2mill thats alot of bread.
where did you hear that?

Wow, 2mill thats alot of bread.
where did you hear that?

Dave Melzter has reported that it is closer to $1-1.5 million range. Not like it makes much of a difference.

Dave Melzter has reported that it is closer to $1-1.5 million range. Not like it makes much of a difference.

Still alot of bread.
Do you know how many guy’s he will face(how big tournie is)
and if he gets that much regardless, just to show.
or does he have to win??

i think after nov talks should be on it’s way by end of dec he will sign probably won’t fight randy till july. seems like all the pride fighters need a one fight in the cage to get used to it. look at shogun, henderson was rusty and probably silva as well when he steps in. but if fedor fights randy in the cage his first fight i think randy will beat him

although i would like to see fedor in the ufc, 1-1.5 mil per fight is too much. look at all the money thats been wasted on c.c,shogun,herring and maybee nog. i think he should put more effort and money into signing andrei arlovski. he’s already proven himself in the ufc. i wouldn,t have said this 6 months ago, but after seeing shogun go down so easy against forrest i think dana might be kicking himself for even aquiring pride. shogun was ranked #1 in the lhws by most and in the top 3 p4p by almost everybody, and cro-cops been a total bust. im not saying that fedor is overated, but i dont think everything else should be swept aside just to sign him.

As far as fighting in the UFC goes, I think I’ll have to fight him, I won’t have a lot of problems as far as cage is concerned."

I really hope he doesn’t mean this in the way Cro Cop meant it. Its become clear that fighting in the clinch against the cage is almost as complex as standard boxing and ground fighting, and Randy has taken the art to a level nobody else in the world possesses. Randy will do to Fedor the exact same thing he did to Gonzaga if Fedor isn’t completely prepared to escape the clinch.

I’m looking forward towards Captain America vs The Russian Cyborg in ’08 World War!

Fedor said how he respects Randy and wouldnt want to fight him for that reason, but obviously he would for shot at the title. You’ve heard GSP say that he respected Hughes so much as a fighter and looked up to him and he believes that’s the reason he lost his first match with him.

I say fedor put up or shut up!!!! Randy would crush him into the cage. He better be prepared or he will get crushed!

although i would like to see fedor in the ufc, 1-1.5 mil per fight is too much.

thats what he is estimated to get paid for his Sambo tourament.

Wow he is making this sound like hes GOING to be in the UFC.. Nice.

Oh BTW: THANK YOU FOR NOT USING THE PIC OF THIS IDIOT EATING AN ICE CREAM CONE!!!!

Sounds good but I won’t hold my breath. Wouldn’t it be funny if he came out of a long camp and goes right I’m going to clear up at 205 (he’s like 229 or something). You’d have to laugh, Randy would either drop down or retire. I think this is the fight Randy wants before he retires for good (at hw of course it suits him better).

thats what he is estimated to get paid for his Sambo tourament.

No thats what he would get per fight in the UFC

Randy should get this fight before he retire’s.
Imagine Randy does Fedor in like he did Gonzaga. That would boost his already amazing Ufc career through the roof.

sounds like they’re getting closer to a deal, i wish they could make it happen for the december show, but i guess with him fighting in the sambo championships thats not gonna happen…

I hope they fight and Randy dominates him and fedor gets lost in the mix in the ufc

All of you guys saying “Pride fighters are a bust, prove themselves for the UFC, waste of money” you realy make me laugh…

It is expected that someone coming into a different environment and rule system to struggle, and so far the only one showing signs of struggle are CroCop. Herring was never that grezt to begin with, Shogun has the knee injury and will look great next time around, just wait for Wandy, Shogun, and Fedor to turn this nonsense around, (even though you have Rampage and A Silva with belts)

And by the way and on the flip, Randy Couture will never be ranked #1 until Dana White can make a fight with Fedor happen, Fedor is #1, unfortunatley because of Pride orgs mistakes they sank their ship and all their talent are refugees on the UFC boat, total control is in there hands, UFC and their nazi fans (which are a rather samll percent) can now demand that Pride was overrated, Pride fighters gotta prove themselves in the octagon, etc, etc. Dana can now throw an NFL player into an Arena league game and when they lose cry “I told you so, UFC fighters are better, etc”

The cage will have problems adjusting to Fedor

All of you guys saying “Pride fighters are a bust, prove themselves for the UFC, waste of money” you realy make me laugh…

It is expected that someone coming into a different environment and rule system to struggle, and so far the only one showing signs of struggle are CroCop. Herring was never that grezt to begin with, Shogun has the knee injury and will look great next time around, just wait for Wandy, Shogun, and Fedor to turn this nonsense around, (even though you have Rampage and A Silva with belts)

And by the way and on the flip, Randy Couture will never be ranked #1 until Dana White can make a fight with Fedor happen, Fedor is #1, unfortunatley because of Pride orgs mistakes they sank their ship and all their talent are refugees on the UFC boat, total control is in there hands, UFC and their nazi fans (which are a rather samll percent) can now demand that Pride was overrated, Pride fighters gotta prove themselves in the octagon, etc, etc. Dana can now throw an NFL player into an Arena league game and when they lose cry “I told you so, UFC fighters are better, etc”

they didnt have to sign with the ufc, which has a cage, adifferent environment,rules, etc. iused to try and stick up for the pride guys at first, but now no-way. do you realize that zuffa paid 65 mil for the rights to aquire pride. thats what i call a bust! so stop laughing.

All of you guys saying “Pride fighters are a bust, prove themselves for the UFC, waste of money” you realy make me laugh…

It is expected that someone coming into a different environment and rule system to struggle, and so far the only one showing signs of struggle are CroCop. Herring was never that grezt to begin with, Shogun has the knee injury and will look great next time around, just wait for Wandy, Shogun, and Fedor to turn this nonsense around, (even though you have Rampage and A Silva with belts)

And by the way and on the flip, Randy Couture will never be ranked #1 until Dana White can make a fight with Fedor happen, Fedor is #1, unfortunatley because of Pride orgs mistakes they sank their ship and all their talent are refugees on the UFC boat, total control is in there hands, UFC and their nazi fans (which are a rather samll percent) can now demand that Pride was overrated, Pride fighters gotta prove themselves in the octagon, etc, etc. Dana can now throw an NFL player into an Arena league game and when they lose cry “I told you so, UFC fighters are better, etc”

‘Cry me a river’…….

they didnt have to sign with the ufc, which has a cage, adifferent environment,rules, etc. iused to try and stick up for the pride guys at first, but now no-way. do you realize that zuffa paid 65 mil for the rights to aquire pride. thats what i call a bust! so stop laughing.

BW, why do you care so much about how someone else is spending their money? The Fertitta’s made the Forbes list. Do you understand that they have money to burn? There is no successfull business in existence that got that way without taking financial risks so quit harpin on it will ya?

Randy and Fedor, its gonna be a damn good fight thats for sure. I think it will go all 5 rounds. People will get their money’s worth out of that pay per view!

Maybe Superbowl Weekend is still the time for this fight!

Some have noted that Fedor needs to learn to fight in the clinch, and I think Fedor’s Sambo will prevent Randy from wanting to be in the clinch. Fedor will throw him just as Randy could pick him up and slam em. It is going to be a wicked fight. I just hope Fedor buys a UFC cage to train in!

Greco Roman vs Russian Sambo, and Ground-n-Pound vs Jiu Jitsu. This Fight has so much appeal! I hope Fedor is more of the Rampage, Silva, Pride than of the Cro Cop, Rua, Pride fighters.

DailyMotion.com, Has a video of Fedor competeing in Sambo.

Does anyone know the exact dates of the Sambo Tournament?

The cage will have problems adjusting to Fedor

Best line of the day.

Fedor vs Couture, live from Moscow superbowl weekend.

 Rocky IV

People across the world wouldn’t stop talking about it.

There is an incredible amount of politics and money involved in signing a fighter the likes of Fedor. When Putin was ringside for the Fedor v. Lindland fight, an alarm bell should have gone off in everyone’s head that the Russians aren’t going to get pushed around. Fedor’s American representation is White Chocolate Mang. (“WCM”) located in Florida.

WCM also represents Rampage, Diego Sanchez, Kongo, to name a few. WCM will lubricate the negotiation process for at least one reason, the don’t need a fucking translator. Fedor will sign after the Sambo championships in November. The UFC nor Fedor can afford not to reach an agreement because the UFC would be losing out on an incredible fighter who has an international fan base (which the UFC is trying to develop ex: UFC 75 in London) that would generate a massive amount of PPV revenue and Fedor wants to fight the best in the world. THe best in the world are currently in the UFC, except of course for Fedor, Gomi, Josh Barnett etc, etc, etc…

Why would Fedor want to fight in HEROs or K1? Neither organization will allow Fedor to reach his full potential because those organizations are halfass at best.

Both sides are playing hardball, its as simple as that. When have American and Russian relations ever been good? WWII, may be? Dana White is used to paying fighters next to nothing because so many of the UFC guys are up and comers who just want a shot in the UFC. White has never had to sign a fighter as big as Fedor. Everyone knows he’s Russian, right? When has mother Russia ever been will to give in? Okay, Reagan brought the Hammer and Sickle to its knees, but lets not make the exception the rule.

Fedor will fight in the UFC, and by the way it sounds, this will be sooner than later. All real MMA fans should be focusing on the positive aspects of “The Last Emperor” fighting in the UFC and stop bitching about the nit picky crap that goes along with top athletes. Every sport worth its salt suffers from the Owner/Player negotiations. Dana White has a massive ego, as well as Fedor’s management team,w which most likely includes Putin.

Either way, we should all pool our resources and tell Dana White to stop being so greedy and just sign Fedor already, and vice versa. We need this fight Dana, so stop being such a prick, and vice versa.

Respect.

Pleeeaaase make it happen!!!!!Fuckin a ,I mean seriously,how big will this fight be?It would take years to even build another fight this big.I am sure Dana will do everything in his power to make this happen.

RANDY NEEDS TO GET MORE THAN 250,000 HE HAS MORE APPEAL THAN CHUCK LIDDELL AND HIS FAT TRAINER THE “HACK”

WHY HAS NOT RANDY BEEN GIVEN OVER 250,000? for getting or defending his HW title at age 43?
AND SOME ONE CAN COME INTO THE UFC LIKE FEDOR AND GET 1.5-2 mill a fight???
DOES NOT MAKE SENSE?
AND DANA IN THE LATEST UFC POST PRESS CONFERENCE IS BASHING MMA FORUMS LIKE THIS ONE …
WE ARE THE ONES WHO BUY PPV’s ALL THE TIME!
I’ve boughten every last one for as lonas i can remember…do they ask us the people that watch who we would like to see

Dana is chuck’s old manager and Chuck can’t even talk
how is chuck an icon or whatever RANdy is a nice person smart and caring as he has gone to iraq and trains others chuck is a selfish person just like dana…pretty soon dana will no longer be in the UFC…He acts so arogant!!!!!
WISH tito would have boxed him and kicked that crap out of dana

ACTUALY DANA’s Head is larger than TITO’s

As far as the “Pride Fighters are a bust” argument goes, the argument is bogus.

UFC Light Heavyweight Champ: Quinton Jackson, he was a first wave immigrant from PRIDE. Most diehard UFC fans, somehow forget this fact.

UFC Middleweight Champion: Anderson Silva, PRIDE fighter.

Dan Henderson is also a PRIDE fighter.

Cro Cop is the only real bust, but his career is over and everyone knows it.

“Big Nog” showed well against Herring, albeit Herring is kinda of Donkey.

Griffin shows an incredible amount of heart and determination and your conclusion is that Shogun sucks? Why can’t we give credit where credits due? I like Griffin, but I’m not a huge fan. He won the fight, plain and simple by having a bigger heart than his opponent. Rua got beat. If you conclusion is that Shogun is a bust, then what you’re saying is that a former UFC TUF Champion is a weak fighter because if you gave Griffin any credit you would say, “Griffin WON!!!!” instead of “Rua is a bust.”

As far as Rua’s knee injury, it doesn’t seem to severe because he will be back in 3months. If he was fighting without an ACL, then I could see him making an excuse. Rua maned up, said he got beat, and didn’t use the knee thing as an excuse. A 3 month turn around time leds me to believe that he needs to get his knee scoped, which menas that he probably had cartildge damage.

Let’s wait until Fedor fights. Then everyone will one that it does NOT matter if the fighter is a UFC fighter, PRIDE fighter, or anyone else as long as the fighters are of the highest caliber and put on an incredible display of MMA skill.

Trust me, this will make the PPV wothrly of the $50. Thanks, Dana.

Isn’t Dana a chicks name?

Y hasnt anyone reported on what Noguerra said in his latest interview. Noguerra clearly states that he will be fighting against Cheik Kongo at UFC 79 in Las Vegas on December.

I guess that puts all the Noguerra vs. Frank Mir speculation t o rest.

FEDOR DON’T WANT TO PUNISHED AND HURT RANDY FOR SURE, HE SAID SAME THING WHEN HE FACE COLEMAN LONG TIME AGO , WAR FEDOR

I kind of also don’t want to see randy/fedor fight, even though it would be interesting I really like both guys and it would be sad for either to lose. Both these guys are class acts and I really don’t know who I would want to see win.

This fight has to come off asap January or February or it’ll turn into the mythical Chuck vs. Wandy scenario.
Randy should be more than formidable for Fedor, who despite all Pride aficionados, needs to stake his claim globally (yes, the United States…however pompous some may consider that, it is 100% true).

I think this fight is close as hell, giving Fedor a slight edge due to such high level of comp, then again Big Nog and Heath Herring aren’t looking so great, Cro Cop can’t even beat the low caliber of Kongo, and Shogun was “perhaps” a roid monkey now deflated in the UFC.

Fedor needs to prove it and Randy just needs to get in there asap due to his climbing age. For the record I think Randy has the mentality to outmuscle and destroy Fedor, coupled by the fact that Fedor had trouble with Lindland however briefly, that gives Randy an opening to stun Fedor and if he does, I don’t think Fedor will recoup.

sounds like they’re getting closer to a deal, i wish they could make it happen for the december show, but i guess with him fighting in the sambo championships thats not gonna happen…

 it sounds like early next year

I think Fedor is a great fighter but my money is on Couture as far as Coleman he never expected to win and has not preformed well for a long while, if not for a accident in the ring he would never have had the opprotunity to fight Fedor anyhow. the biggest mistake Fedor could make is go into this fight thinking he needs to take it easy on Randy he better pack a lunch baring a quick knock out he is in for a war. besides if anyone should be getting 1 to 2 million a fight pay Couture he has been the work horse he is the man until someone takes it from him , “PAY RANDY”……out

Fedor wins by strikes…Hes got the heaviest shots randy has ever dealt with…..Its gonna be ugly.

Its because of bidding..if the ufc doesnt then they can never say couture is the best….Randys good..but not that good.and if they dont pay fedor then they might get outbid by someone willing to pay him what he wants and willing to work with the contract stipulations

BW, why do you care so much about how someone else is spending their money? The Fertitta’s made the Forbes list. Do you understand that they have money to burn? There is no successfull business in existence that got that way without taking financial risks so quit harpin on it will ya?

There are some fights that reguardless of what’s happened just need to happen in order to settle some old a nd new arguements. Wandy vs Chuck is one of them. I say forget what happened with chuck losing and still have him fight Wandy. So many people have wanted that fight to happen for so many years it shouldn’t matter what happened last weekend.
If the UFC lets Fedor vs randy slip throught thier fingers and he retires or Fedor signs somewhere else, it will be impossible to ever settle the "best HVWT every " debate. There is not one othere fight I can think of I would rather see.

The fighters that sell the most PPV’s gets paid the most, not necessarily the most talented fighters. That’s just how business is run. that’s life. It’s about whoever can rake in the cash, not about who is the most capable or the most talented at their job.

Im getting really pissed off at dana white. trying to pay some russian guy 1.5-2 big ones and then paying some guy like jardine who is also a very talented fighter, sh!t and now he is stuck making his wife work and feeding his children ramen noodles for the next 3 months.
 Randy if you ever read this, I want you to beat fedor so badly, that after the fight you make him into a soccer mom.
 so he stuck driving a mini van and making you dinner, and every night the dinner isnt good or you saw him out the house that day, beat him and YELL " you call that meat loaf"!!! or “where did you go today *ITCH, I TOLD YOU…” SMACK!!!!
 Man that would be awsome.

Fedor is a great fighter, but I think there is more to him not signing with the ufc then sambo world championships. Fedor is “known” to pick his fights carefully, there was even rumor he was scared to fight Tim Sylvia when he was UFC Champion, some think he makes sure he gets the best matchups for himself because he is scared he will mess up his legacy with a loss. I did not believe these rumors at first, bit after Couture dominated Timbo, maybe Fedor was a bit hesitant to fight Randy, I mean who worse to fight if your worried about matchup problems. Maybe Fedor will wait until Couture loses. I mean really, he talks about representing his country Russia in a sambo tournament nobody even cares about. Hear me out here, what better way to represent Russia then to fight Captain America Randy Couture, a UFC legend known for how American he is. Coming and knocking off in America an American legend would mean more than winning a sambo tournament, that is the equivelant of winning a wrestling tournament in America, nobody really cares. I could see if this certain sambo tournament was in the Olympics, but it’s not, so Fedor needs to be a man and fight “The Natural”.

i can see this fight only going two ways= fedor by knockout or randy by destroying him in the clinch

I guess Fedor is watching the UFC cause he is definitely keeping up with what Randy Couture is doing.

look at all the money thats been wasted on c.c,shogun,herring and maybee nog. i think he should put more effort and money into signing andrei arlovski.

The only thing AA has proven is that he can not beat a B-rate fighter, Tim Sylvia. Oh and that he has KO’ed some other B-rate fighters, the only exception being Werdum. I like AA as much as all the other AA fans but look at his record. All his devistating wins, that made him a fan favorite are all against B-rate fighters. Sorry to rain on your parade AA

Fedor is a great fighter, but I think there is more to him not signing with the ufc then sambo world championships. Fedor is “known” to pick his fights carefully, there was even rumor he was scared to fight Tim Sylvia when he was UFC Champion, some think he makes sure he gets the best matchups for himself because he is scared he will mess up his legacy with a loss. I did not believe these rumors at first, bit after Couture dominated Timbo, maybe Fedor was a bit hesitant to fight Randy, I mean who worse to fight if your worried about matchup problems. Maybe Fedor will wait until Couture loses. I mean really, he talks about representing his country Russia in a sambo tournament nobody even cares about. Hear me out here, what better way to represent Russia then to fight Captain America Randy Couture, a UFC legend known for how American he is. Coming and knocking off in America an American legend would mean more than winning a sambo tournament, that is the equivelant of winning a wrestling tournament in America, nobody really cares. I could see if this certain sambo tournament was in the Olympics, but it’s not, so Fedor needs to be a man and fight “The Natural”.

 Youre preaching to the choir.

Another weakness of Fedor that nobody talks about … Fedor gets cut up pretty easily. His one loss was by a cut, and even in his wins, he still got cut in many of those fights — even under rules where elbows to the face are not allowed. Because UFC rules allow elbows to the face, this can be problematic for Fedor, not just because he can get cut, but it’s also more dangerous to be on the receiving end of a GnP attack than under PRIDE rules.

I don’t like the fact that fights can be won/lost by a cut, but it is a part of the sport and must be considered when predicting or analyzing fights.

I can’t wait!

although i would like to see fedor in the ufc, 1-1.5 mil per fight is too much. look at all the money thats been wasted on c.c,shogun,herring and maybee nog. i think he should put more effort and money into signing andrei arlovski. he’s already proven himself in the ufc. i wouldn,t have said this 6 months ago, but after seeing shogun go down so easy against forrest i think dana might be kicking himself for even aquiring pride. shogun was ranked #1 in the lhws by most and in the top 3 p4p by almost everybody, and cro-cops been a total bust. im not saying that fedor is overated, but i dont think everything else should be swept aside just to sign him.

He may have lost money on these fighters intially but they will get comfortable in the cage and even if they do not he aquired the competition. So now there is no question who is number one. Before I would wait to see who had the better PPV event before getting one. Did Pride or did UFC and that is the one that I rented. I am sure hundreds of thousands of people did that. Now there is no debate on which one to get. You want a good MMA event on PPV it is UFC and only UFC. And now number 2 is the WEC which seems to be a little brother organization for UFC. They both advertise for ach other and it seems that the WEC will be the quasi minor leagues for the UFC, a breeding ground of sorts to let fighters get seasoned and experienced with a big Las Vegas style event. I can not wait for Carlos Conditt to get a little more solid and get some experience. Also Uriaja Faber would be a nice addition if he can fight at 155.

I think this fight would be the most anticipated matchup ever in MMA. That said, both Fedor and Randy should be fairly compensated for what will inevitably be the biggest PPV payday for the UFC to date. I’m a fan of both fighters, personally I’d give Fedor the slight edge, but you never know with the cage/elbow strikes and Fedor being susceptible to cuts. I just hope the fight happens and doesn’t crap out in the negotiation process as a result of UFC officials being tight with the wallet.

MAKE IT HAPPEN DANA!!!!

Does anybody know why boxing died? Because a long time ago a man by the name of muhhamid ali (cnt spll) came along and domminated every body (almost). Then he started getting pay checks that nobody in boxing had ever gotten before. Because he demanded it, they coulndnt say no to him because he was making them FU(k tons of money. Then all the other fighters decided they needed millions too, and with that much money getting invovled, the mob knew how to make money, then slowly the people who had boxing, lost it, then it all went down hill.
 Lets just [SAY] that fedor comes along and signs a contract making 2 million a fight, and then he dominates every fight on that contract. If this does happens, no doubt he would be the biggest man of mma. Then dana writes up a new contract and says how about 5 million a fight. Fedor laughs and says how bout 50 million a fight. dana as deep pocketed as he is has no choice but to pay the biggest man in the ufc his money. THEN BAMM!!, chain reaction, everybody wants that type of money. Then you know the mob is all over it. Dana loses control of the company. And mma drags on with nobody really caring about it.
 THIS CAN HAPPEN
 just pray that fedor losses one fight or that dana is way to deep pocketed.

Fedor is a great fighter, but I think there is more to him not signing with the ufc then sambo world championships. Fedor is “known” to pick his fights carefully, there was even rumor he was scared to fight Tim Sylvia when he was UFC Champion, some think he makes sure he gets the best matchups for himself because he is scared he will mess up his legacy with a loss. I did not believe these rumors at first, bit after Couture dominated Timbo, maybe Fedor was a bit hesitant to fight Randy, I mean who worse to fight if your worried about matchup problems. Maybe Fedor will wait until Couture loses. I mean really, he talks about representing his country Russia in a sambo tournament nobody even cares about. Hear me out here, what better way to represent Russia then to fight Captain America Randy Couture, a UFC legend known for how American he is. Coming and knocking off in America an American legend would mean more than winning a sambo tournament, that is the equivelant of winning a wrestling tournament in America, nobody really cares. I could see if this certain sambo tournament was in the Olympics, but it’s not, so Fedor needs to be a man and fight “The Natural”.

SPOT ON MAN, couldnt agree more!

If Fedor has been fighting in PRIDE on the ‘juice’…forget about it. Randy will destroy him in the UFC.

I like Fedor’s game. Kind of the way I liked Shogun Rua’s game. And we all know what happened to Rua.

I would like to know if the Sambo World Championships tests for steriods.

I hope he does come to the UFC, I hope Randy beats him, and I hope Fedor never wins again… Haha maybe that is a little harsh.

Coming and knocking off in America an American legend would mean more than winning a sambo tournament, that is the equivelant of winning a wrestling tournament in America, nobody really cares. I could see if this certain sambo tournament was in the Olympics, but it’s not, so Fedor needs to be a man and fight “The Natural”.

National championship Combat Sambo in Russia is a huge event in Russia according to stuff I’ve read. Putin and other big names in Russia all attend. Its not just another wrestling tournament over there.

As far as the “Pride Fighters are a bust” argument goes, the argument is bogus.

UFC Light Heavyweight Champ: Quinton Jackson, he was a first wave immigrant from PRIDE. Most diehard UFC fans, somehow forget this fact.

UFC Middleweight Champion: Anderson Silva, PRIDE fighter.

Dan Henderson is also a PRIDE fighter.

Cro Cop is the only real bust, but his career is over and everyone knows it.

“Big Nog” showed well against Herring, albeit Herring is kinda of Donkey.

Griffin shows an incredible amount of heart and determination and your conclusion is that Shogun sucks? Why can’t we give credit where credits due? I like Griffin, but I’m not a huge fan. He won the fight, plain and simple by having a bigger heart than his opponent. Rua got beat. If you conclusion is that Shogun is a bust, then what you’re saying is that a former UFC TUF Champion is a weak fighter because if you gave Griffin any credit you would say, “Griffin WON!!!!” instead of “Rua is a bust.”

As far as Rua’s knee injury, it doesn’t seem to severe because he will be back in 3months. If he was fighting without an ACL, then I could see him making an excuse. Rua maned up, said he got beat, and didn’t use the knee thing as an excuse. A 3 month turn around time leds me to believe that he needs to get his knee scoped, which menas that he probably had cartildge damage.

Let’s wait until Fedor fights. Then everyone will one that it does NOT matter if the fighter is a UFC fighter, PRIDE fighter, or anyone else as long as the fighters are of the highest caliber and put on an incredible display of MMA skill.

Trust me, this will make the PPV wothrly of the $50. Thanks, Dana.

Isn’t Dana a chicks name?

Excellent post man!

Did everyone read the translated interview? Not too much stood out, but this did:

“Q: How do you manage to motivate yourself and give 100% everyday during your training?

A: I like what I do, so this is my motivation. Well, of course, I don’t give 100% every single day, there are ups and downs, but in general, I really like it.
"

Can you imagine hearing Randy Couture or Forrest Griffin say that they don’t give it 100% everyday? I can’t. Whether they do, or don’t – that’s another question. But they would never admit to such a thing.

I would like to know if the Sambo World Championships tests for steriods

I would bet that even if they did, and Fedor tested positive, they would simply sweep it under the rug, so to speak.

Fedor is a great fighter, but I think there is more to him not signing with the ufc then sambo world championships. Fedor is “known” to pick his fights carefully, there was even rumor he was scared to fight Tim Sylvia when he was UFC Champion, some think he makes sure he gets the best matchups for himself because he is scared he will mess up his legacy with a loss. I did not believe these rumors at first, bit after Couture dominated Timbo, maybe Fedor was a bit hesitant to fight Randy, I mean who worse to fight if your worried about matchup problems. Maybe Fedor will wait until Couture loses. I mean really, he talks about representing his country Russia in a sambo tournament nobody even cares about. Hear me out here, what better way to represent Russia then to fight Captain America Randy Couture, a UFC legend known for how American he is. Coming and knocking off in America an American legend would mean more than winning a sambo tournament, that is the equivelant of winning a wrestling tournament in America, nobody really cares. I could see if this certain sambo tournament was in the Olympics, but it’s not, so Fedor needs to be a man and fight “The Natural”.

I love this comment,but have’nt i been already saying this it seems like forever now.I just don’t have the paticense to type these long ass wonderful comments like this one.

But the bottom line is that Fedor is scared of Randy.

1984 called, they recalled ALL denim jackets..

If Fedor has been fighting in PRIDE on the ‘juice’…forget about it. Randy will destroy him in the UFC.

I like Fedor’s game. Kind of the way I liked Shogun Rua’s game. And we all know what happened to Rua.

I would like to know if the Sambo World Championships tests for steriods.

have you ever even seen fedor? if he’s on the juice he needs to rear naked choke his supplier, because he is getting ripped off. their alot a man can say about fedor but on the juice, come on!

although i would like to see fedor in the ufc, 1-1.5 mil per fight is too much. look at all the money thats been wasted on c.c,shogun,herring and maybee nog. i think he should put more effort and money into signing andrei arlovski. he’s already proven himself in the ufc. i wouldn,t have said this 6 months ago, but after seeing shogun go down so easy against forrest i think dana might be kicking himself for even aquiring pride. shogun was ranked #1 in the lhws by most and in the top 3 p4p by almost everybody, and cro-cops been a total bust. im not saying that fedor is overated, but i dont think everything else should be swept aside just to sign him.

The money has not been wasted. Dana is banking off those guys.

Fedor is the top dog and I know he will destroy Couture.Fedors game is one of the best around he is a master on the ground.

Violent Mike: Since hearing that Noguerra would face frank Mir next, and now his next opponent will be Kongo, it leads me to believe that Dana White believes Fedor will sign and be Randy’s next opponent. Unless Fedor is signed Noguerra would be the next logical opponent for Randy, but since Noguerra is fighting Kongo in december, Noguerra wont be ready to fight Randy until late March or early April. At Randy’s age, I dont see him waiting 8 months to defend his title. Which leads me to believe that Fedor will be Randy’s next opponent in January of 08.

Of course I am just speculating but logically my scenario does make sense, However I have been wrong before, lets see how this plays out.

I just bout the whole disc set of the 2003 Pride Middleweight Grand Prix…. I have been trying to get this DVD for 2 years now. Now I gotta go and watch it. Its an awesome 4 discs for only $29.99.

1984 called, they recalled ALL denim jackets..

LOLOLOLOLOL. Would you prefer to see Fedor eat 2 ice cream cones???

Violent Mike: Since hearing that Noguerra would face frank Mir next, and now his next opponent will be Kongo, it leads me to believe that Dana White believes Fedor will sign and be Randy’s next opponent. Unless Fedor is signed Noguerra would be the next logical opponent for Randy, but since Noguerra is fighting Kongo in december, Noguerra wont be ready to fight Randy until late March or early April. At Randy’s age, I dont see him waiting 8 months to defend his title. Which leads me to believe that Fedor will be Randy’s next opponent in January of 08.

John, sounds a bit optimistic to me. I don’t think that switching Big Nog’s opponent from Mir to Kongo means anything other than Kongo is now ranked above Mir, since his win over Cro Cop. Randy broke a bone in his forearm, and he will be filming ‘The Scorpion King’ so he wouldn’t be fighting in the next few months anyway – he can’t even train for a fight while being injured or filming a movie.

So I actually think that it would be logical that the Big Nog/Kongo match would be for the #1 contender spot. Since it was thought that Big Nog would be #1 contender after beating Herring, but it didnt happen because it was so unimpressive. So the UFC was probably hoping for Cro Cop to beat Kongo so that they could have had Big Nog/Cro Cop to see who would be #1 contender. BUT, Kongo spoiled that by dominating Cro Cop. So now its Big Nog/Kongo, for what I think should be for the #1 contender – of course assuming that Fedor isn’t signed. The seconde Fedor is signed, he becomes the #1 contender, and a fight with Randy is inked.

Also, I think that January 08 would be too early for Fedor/Randy. Neither would have time to be completely ready (Randy’s injur and movie, I’m not exactly sure of the filming schedule).

The money has not been wasted. Dana is banking off those guys.

i dont have any problems with the way zuffa spends its money except i think they should give A.A the money he wants and deserves and sign him to a long term contract. that was my original arguement.

have you ever even seen fedor? if he’s on the juice he needs to rear naked choke his supplier, because he is getting ripped off. their alot a man can say about fedor but on the juice, come on!

Guys on steriods aren’t necessarily using them to be ripped or physically huge. Some guys use steriods to recover quickly from injuries and battle fatigue.

Look at Stephan Bonnar. Not necessarily the buffest guy on the block eh? Or how about a guy like Josh Barnett. Barnett has a body very similar to Fedor’s, and he’s been juicing more than Minute Maid.

I like Fedor, I’ve seen pretty much every fight available on him the past few years. But face it, if these guys that have trained juiced, fought juiced, and have relied on it for so many years now have to fight clean…many of them aren’t going to make it in the UFC. I hope Fedor isn’t one of them.

John, sounds a bit optimistic to me. I don’t think that switching Big Nog’s opponent from Mir to Kongo means anything other than Kongo is now ranked above Mir, since his win over Cro Cop. Randy broke a bone in his forearm, and he will be filming ‘The Scorpion King’ so he wouldn’t be fighting in the next few months anyway – he can’t even train for a fight while being injured or filming a movie.

So I actually think that it would be logical that the Big Nog/Kongo match would be for the #1 contender spot. Since it was thought that Big Nog would be #1 contender after beating Herring, but it didnt happen because it was so unimpressive. So the UFC was probably hoping for Cro Cop to beat Kongo so that they could have had Big Nog/Cro Cop to see who would be #1 contender. BUT, Kongo spoiled that by dominating Cro Cop. So now its Big Nog/Kongo, for what I think should be for the #1 contender – of course assuming that Fedor isn’t signed. The seconde Fedor is signed, he becomes the #1 contender, and a fight with Randy is inked.

Also, I think that January 08 would be too early for Fedor/Randy. Neither would have time to be completely ready (Randy’s injur and movie, I’m not exactly sure of the filming schedule).

Not to intrude on your dialogue. But isn’t Gonzaga still in the top three. Yeah, he lost to Randy, but I thought his fatal flaw in that match was in the Third round when he hurt Randy with a combination and instead staying back and picking his shots he (nervously) ran in and put himself back in the clinch and Randy took advantage slammed and fight was over. So, I still see Conzaga up in the Ranks. Nog/Kongo to determined # 1. Silva/Vera determine # 2 or 3? Maybe Conzaga will fight winner Siva/Vera.

Man that would be huge if randy beat fedor. i would love to see randy beat him but i dont think he can. Fedor is just a monster and he can adjust to any type of fighting style coming from any of his opponents. The crocop thing i dont think i’am still sold on the idea he is done in ufc, i believe that he can still challenge for the belt in the future. I say give him one more fight against a top heavyweight and see if he can turn it around.

What a lot of people dont realize is that japan never
tested for steroids until they did the Vegas shows, now that Zuffa has bought pride and brought these guys over,
they are now out of their game they once relied upon, like the lack of strength and cardio. Steroids played a huge part for pride guys at the top of there game, and once they stop using them, they are not the same. Look at Mark Kerr, i mean he fell off, and i hate to say it but i think the same has happend to Shogun, and a lot of other guys that are now fighting in the UFC. Just think about it. but shogun will be back, these guys have to get used to a huge change besides the cage and rules, a lot more ties into it.

I am assuming that Fedor goes straight to Randy because it’s basically a unification bout. Right? So that means the next fight at 185 should be Dan Henderson vs. whoever wins the Franklin Silvia fight. The UFC has to do this!

What a lot of people dont realize is that japan never
tested for steroids until they did the Vegas shows, now that Zuffa has bought pride and brought these guys over,
they are now out of their game they once relied upon, like the lack of strength and cardio. Steroids played a huge part for pride guys at the top of there game, and once they stop using them, they are not the same. Look at Mark Kerr, i mean he fell off, and i hate to say it but i think the same has happend to Shogun, and a lot of other guys that are now fighting in the UFC. Just think about it. but shogun will be back, these guys have to get used to a huge change besides the cage and rules, a lot more ties into it.

If they were juicing, then they are going to have a lot of health problems as well. The main one that would effect their fighting is a testosterone deficiency. I know someone who was a body builder and went on roids to get huge. He ended up stopping because he was concerned about his health (smart choice). He was only on them for about a year, and when he went off he had a severe testosterone deficiency, he lost all of his muscle and was smaller than he was before he juiced. It ruined his career, and now he has to take injections to keep his levels normal.

So its not just coming off the steroids that will hurt you, its the fact that if you have been on them for a period of time, you might end up weaker than you ever were before you were juicing.

Depends on what you use, testosterone steroids build that muscle, while ones like Decadurabolan strenthen the tendons and ligiments dont really build 2 much muscle, then you have the “human growth hormone” which really strengthens but doesn’t build too much, i mean a lot of guys in pride were on that sh*t so are guys in the UFC for that matter, when theres a will theres a way, as of right now they dont test for the “human growth hormone” nor do i recall theres a detector for it, but i think its really starting to take a toll on these pride fighters coming into the ufc where they do testing now

Guys on steriods aren’t necessarily using them to be ripped or physically huge. Some guys use steriods to recover quickly from injuries and battle fatigue.

Look at Stephan Bonnar. Not necessarily the buffest guy on the block eh? Or how about a guy like Josh Barnett. Barnett has a body very similar to Fedor’s, and he’s been juicing more than Minute Maid.

I like Fedor, I’ve seen pretty much every fight available on him the past few years. But face it, if these guys that have trained juiced, fought juiced, and have relied on it for so many years now have to fight clean…many of them aren’t going to make it in the UFC. I hope Fedor isn’t one of them.

most of the subjects you are referring to, that take the juice to rebuild or recover are pitchers, not too say that fedor could have never taken anything, but without any credible source and without any obvious visible evidence, please be easy on my boy, because everything he has gotten has probably been through hard work and skill, by the way louisiana hot is better that tobasco.

Not to intrude on your dialogue.

UFC_FAN, you would never be ‘intruding’ in any dialogue that I am involved in. I would actually encourage more people to chime in with thier opinions.

RANDY NEEDS TO GET MORE THAN 250,000 HE HAS MORE APPEAL THAN CHUCK LIDDELL AND HIS FAT TRAINER THE “HACK”

WHY HAS NOT RANDY BEEN GIVEN OVER 250,000? for getting or defending his HW title at age 43?
AND SOME ONE CAN COME INTO THE UFC LIKE FEDOR AND GET 1.5-2 mill a fight???
DOES NOT MAKE SENSE?
AND DANA IN THE LATEST UFC POST PRESS CONFERENCE IS BASHING MMA FORUMS LIKE THIS ONE …
WE ARE THE ONES WHO BUY PPV’s ALL THE TIME!
I’ve boughten every last one for as lonas i can remember…do they ask us the people that watch who we would like to see

Dana is chuck’s old manager and Chuck can’t even talk
how is chuck an icon or whatever RANdy is a nice person smart and caring as he has gone to iraq and trains others chuck is a selfish person just like dana…pretty soon dana will no longer be in the UFC…He acts so arogant!!!!!
WISH tito would have boxed him and kicked that crap out of dana

ACTUALY DANA’s Head is larger than TITO’s

Randy gets one hell of alot more than 250 000 per fight. There are PPV bonuses, sponsorships etc. I bet he’s pretty satisfied with his pay.

most of the subjects you are referring to, that take the juice to rebuild or recover are pitchers, not too say that fedor could have never taken anything, but without any credible source and without any obvious visible evidence, please be easy on my boy, because everything he has gotten has probably been through hard work and skill, by the way louisiana hot is better that tobasco.

Randy is 43, recently went up a weight class and is ripped. The fighters are tested at the events…not during training. There are stuff that leaves the body within 24 hours so…well, let’s just say maybe “the Natural” isn’t as natural as the nickname suggests…

But who knows, perhaps he’s just got really tremendous genes.

Fedor and Couture will be a down an dirty fight. Randy will push the fight clinching and shooting, it’s not going to be Fedor throwing and kicking at a distance for long…Fedor better get at least one UFC fight (cage experience) before the big one or Randy will have an edge. I like Fedor’s ground game it’s incredible to watch. However, I think Randy will prepare for it and come out ahead on the ground and pound. Fedor’s will have to knock him out or submit him. Randy is just too tenacious to not win a 5 round fight.

In addition, Pride has great fighters, Two Pride Fighers are already champions in the UFC, Rampage and Silva and who doesn’t think Henderson can’t win it at 185? a few of them I did not think would do well in the UFC, Nog and herring, I was surprised Cro Cop did that poor… but hey’ look at former champ Liddell.

Did anyone notice how small Shogun looked compared to Forrest G. ? Size difference in addition to pace really slowed Shogun down. It looked like Shogun could make 185. Forrest looked tough.

Fedor needs to STFU and sign, i don’t care how good he is, If signs with another promotion he’ll lose a fight and his credibility will go down the shitter

Fedor and Couture will be a down an dirty fight. Randy will push the fight clinching and shooting, it’s not going to be Fedor throwing and kicking at a distance for long…Fedor better get at least one UFC fight (cage experience) before the big one or Randy will have an edge. I like Fedor’s ground game it’s incredible to watch. However, I think Randy will prepare for it and come out ahead on the ground and pound. Fedor’s will have to knock him out or submit him. Randy is just too tenacious to not win a 5 round fight.

In addition, Pride has great fighters, Two Pride Fighers are already champions in the UFC, Rampage and Silva and who doesn’t think Henderson can’t win it at 185? a few of them I did not think would do well in the UFC, Nog and herring, I was surprised Cro Cop did that poor… but hey’ look at former champ Liddell.

Did anyone notice how small Shogun looked compared to Forrest G. ? Size difference in addition to pace really slowed Shogun down. It looked like Shogun could make 185. Forrest looked tough.

I noticed the size difference too – Forrest looked way bigger than Shogun. Randy said, when training for his Gonzaga fight, that Forrest was around 240. Plus, he’s 6’3". He’s got to be one of the biggest light heavy weights in the UFC. Forrest did look tough. His fighting attitude, size, cardio, and ever growing skill set are making him a huge threat in the weight class now.

If Randy and Fedor go the distance, I would go with Randy too. Maybe even by TKO. The steroid thing could be a factor since Pride is notorious for not testing while the UFC is adamant on it but who knows? The cage, the rules, and possibly ring rust are big factors too that can favor Randy.

Randy should get this fight before he retire’s.
Imagine Randy does Fedor in like he did Gonzaga. That would boost his already amazing Ufc career through the roof.

Fedor is not Gonzaga! Gonzaga has had one big win in his career, and Fedor is a MMA god! I don’t think we should put Napao and Fedor in the same sentence!

No matter what anyone has been saying, it would do Fedor Wonders if they put him to fight a looser first AKA Kongo ect. Imagine the tremendous shock of one UFC fight without ever having being there? It was stupid to throw in CroCop to fight loosers, the fight with eddie should of been enough, same thing with Fedor, in fights,anyone can get a good hit in, thats why its not smart for the best to fight to many loosers.

Sep 27th, 2007 at 4:45 pm Quote this comment
There is an incredible amount of politics and money involved in signing a fighter the likes of Fedor. When Putin was ringside for the Fedor v. Lindland fight, an alarm bell should have gone off in everyone’s head that the Russians aren’t going to get pushed around. Fedor’s American representation is White Chocolate Mang. (“WCM”) located in Florida.
WCM also represents Rampage, Diego Sanchez, Kongo, to name a few. WCM will lubricate the negotiation process for at least one reason, the don’t need a fucking translator. Fedor will sign after the Sambo championships in November. The UFC nor Fedor can afford not to reach an agreement because the UFC would be losing out on an incredible fighter who has an international fan base (which the UFC is trying to develop ex: UFC 75 in London) that would generate a massive amount of PPV revenue and Fedor wants to fight the best in the world. THe best in the world are currently in the UFC, except of course for Fedor, Gomi, Josh Barnett etc, etc, etc…
Why would Fedor want to fight in HEROs or K1? Neither organization will allow Fedor to reach his full potential because those organizations are halfass at best.
Both sides are playing hardball, its as simple as that. When have American and Russian relations ever been good? WWII, may be? Dana White is used to paying fighters next to nothing because so many of the UFC guys are up and comers who just want a shot in the UFC. White has never had to sign a fighter as big as Fedor. Everyone knows he’s Russian, right? When has mother Russia ever been will to give in? Okay, Reagan brought the Hammer and Sickle to its knees, but lets not make the exception the rule.
Fedor will fight in the UFC, and by the way it sounds, this will be sooner than later. All real MMA fans should be focusing on the positive aspects of “The Last Emperor” fighting in the UFC and stop bitching about the nit picky crap that goes along with top athletes. Every sport worth its salt suffers from the Owner/Player negotiations. Dana White has a massive ego, as well as Fedor’s management team,w which most likely includes Putin.
Either way, we should all pool our resources and tell Dana White to stop being so greedy and just sign Fedor already, and vice versa. We need this fight Dana, so stop being such a prick, and vice versa.
Respect.

The problem is with VICE VERSA! No one else seems to have a problem signing woth the UFC.

Fedor wins by strikes…Hes got the heaviest shots randy has ever dealt with…..Its gonna be ugly.

Sorry , Tim Sylvia, Chuck Liddle and Vitor Belfort all hit harder than Fedor and that is why they have way more KO victories than Fedor. Randy will maul Fedor in Wrestling ,take him down and GnP. Fedor knows this too , that is why he doesn’t want to fight him.

If Fedor has been fighting in PRIDE on the "juice’…forget about it. Randy will destroy him in the UFC.
I like Fedor’s game. Kind of the way I liked Shogun Rua’s game. And we all know what happened to Rua.
I would like to know if the Sambo World Championships tests for steriods.
have you ever even seen fedor? if he’s on the juice he needs to rear naked choke his supplier, because he is getting ripped off. their alot a man can say about fedor but on the juice, come on!

Jarod, steroids don’t change your body type. Unless you are a mesomorph (muscular) you won’t look like greek god on the juice. Fedor is more of an endomorph (chubby), so he could get stronger and more explosive on the juice and still not have the bodybuilder look. Anyone fighting in Pride, there is a GOOD chance they are Juiced. Steroids give you a huge advantage and Pride didn’t test, so to be competitive you need to juice. Rampage is a good example. Showgun and Wandi were juiced in Pride and I beleive Rampage wasn’t. I think Rampage will own these two without steroids in the UFC.

Violent Mike: Since hearing that Noguerra would face frank Mir next, and now his next opponent will be Kongo, it leads me to believe that Dana White believes Fedor will sign and be Randy’s next opponent. Unless Fedor is signed Noguerra would be the next logical opponent for Randy, but since Noguerra is fighting Kongo in december, Noguerra wont be ready to fight Randy until late March or early April. At Randy’s age, I dont see him waiting 8 months to defend his title. Which leads me to believe that Fedor will be Randy’s next opponent in January of 08.
Of course I am just speculating but logically my scenario does make sense, However I have been wrong before, lets see how this plays out.
I just bout the whole disc set of the 2003 Pride Middleweight Grand Prix…. I have been trying to get this DVD for 2 years now. Now I gotta go and watch it. Its an awesome 4 discs for only $29.99.

With a win over Sylvia , Vera could easily get a title shot in early 2008.The timing would be right and Dana’s own words, " I see Vera fighting for the title in 2008". Although I hope you’re right John, because Randy vs Fedor will be the best fight in history.

Randy should get this fight before he retire’s.
Imagine Randy does Fedor in like he did Gonzaga. That would boost his already amazing Ufc career through the roof.
Fedor is not Gonzaga! Gonzaga has had one big win in his career, and Fedor is a MMA god! I don’t think we should put Napao and Fedor in the same sentence!

Fedor beat CC by decision and GG owned CC. We can definitely put the two in the same sentence.

Sorry , Tim Sylvia, Chuck Liddle and Vitor Belfort all hit harder than Fedor and that is why they have way more KO victories than Fedor. Randy will maul Fedor in Wrestling ,take him down and GnP. Fedor knows this too , that is why he doesn’t want to fight him.

You must be high or something, none of those guys have the striking power that Fedor has in the top guard position…..not even close.

Fedor beat CC by decision and GG owned CC. We can definitely put the two in the same sentence.

That’s just poor logic. Apply the same line of thought to light heavyweights and you’d have to say that Houston Alexander is the top dog, since he destroyed Keith Jardine who beat Liddell and Griffin, and Griffin tore up Shogun. I guess you’d also have to say Houston would destroy Randy Couture as well, since Chuck tore Randy up a couple of times as well, and Houston destroyed the guy that beat Chuck. Personally I’m a big fan of Houston, but applying that kind of logic to the fight game is just ricidulous.

Ridiculous even, like my typing.

As far as all the steroid talk goes, I can totally believe guys like Wanderlei, Shogun, and Ricardo Arona were juiced in Pride by the way they behaved themselves. Fedor on the other hand, seems way too low key to be hopped up on roids. I think we would see the same Fedor in the cage as we did in Pride, with his only glaring weakness being his susceptibility to cuts. The elbow strikes and cage grind could be problematic, but Fedor’s striking and submission skills could be equally problematic for current UFC heavyweights.

Tim Sylvia, Chuck Liddle and Vitor Belfort all hit harder than Fedor and that is why they have way more KO victories than Fedor.

Statistics say it all man, if Fedor had the supernatural hands you make him out to have, why dosnt everybody he hit go down right away? OR at LEAST more than Chuck, Vitor, Wandi, or Sylvia.

Sure Randy is a world class wrestler, same as Lindland, you’d have to favor him in a wrestling match, but that’s not what MMA is. I’ve always been a fan of Randy Couture, back to the early days of UFC, but he doesn’t have the striking ability or submission skill that Fedor has. Randy has a lot of experience in the cage and unbelievable conditioning, which he’ll need if this fight ever happens. Anything can happen in a fight, but I seriously doubt it will be the cakewalk for Randy that a lot of you guys are thinking it will be.

Sure Randy is a world class wrestler, same as Lindland, you’d have to favor him in a wrestling match, but that’s not what MMA is. I’ve always been a fan of Randy Couture, back to the early days of UFC, but he doesn’t have the striking ability or submission skill that Fedor has. Randy has a lot of experience in the cage and unbelievable conditioning, which he’ll need if this fight ever happens. Anything can happen in a fight, but I seriously doubt it will be the cakewalk for Randy that a lot of you guys are thinking it will be.

We’re not sayin it will be a cake walk for Randy, or either fighter, were just defending against you all that say it will be a cake walk for Fedor.

FEDOR will be a great addition to the UFC. as far as the money goes i think it’s kind of distributed unfairly anyway. i mean keith jardine comes in and beats chuck lidell. now chuck is the fighter that makes this fight worth watching so obviosly he should be paid more,no doubt. if a fighter defeats someone the quality of a chuck,or randy or even rampage or anderson silva, shouldn’t they make a little more than what was first agreed upon? i mean jardine got what,something like 14000 while the ice man took home 500000. somehow this doesn’t seem right. chuck deserves to make what he makes,but i think jardine deserves to make a hell of alot more for the win and the upset!THE NATURAL deserved more than 300000 for his win over gonzaga in my opinion. the thing is,the ufc or zuffa has the money.these guys are constently training and it’s not like they can get a medical plan,so i think they need to get whatever they can get per fight. i think FEDOR will be worth the money,at the same time i think RANDY should make as much,with the winner getting a bonus. FEDOR is a great fighter,i’ve seen him in action several times,but i’m all done underestimating THE NATURAL. either guy could win as far as i’m concerned. i just hope this fight is on the card when the UFC comes to CANADA! that’s possibly in jan. so anyway don’t worry about what the ufc is paying out because they’re making a shitload of cash!

in defense of the pride fighters that have made the crossover to the cage of the ufc,i think, so far it hasn’t been too bad. rampage is lhw champ,a.silva is mw champ,henderson fought for lhw and didn’t do too bad.i think shogun wasn’t expecting griffen to bring it like he did and have such stamina. so shogun and the rest of prides best have got to prepare for these serious fighters from the ufc. that kind of training trickles down from the couture camp and everyone is having to step up,that’s just my opinion because randy and forrests’ stamina was incredable their last fights. the best is yet to come because wanderlei silva and fedor should be in great shape,especially after witnessing what they’ve seen so far. the ufc is no joke,you’ve got to come ready to bring it for as many rounds as is sceduled.wanderlei has long been my favorite fighter and he’s a very proud chute boxe fighter and trainer. count on it he’ll be bringing it,and this man is down right vicious in the fight game! fedor vs. randy should be an assume fight. minitauro probably has the best submissions in the hw division and his boxing is pretty good. i don’t think any of these guys should be judged on one or two fights. there is a definite adjustment to be made. ithink they’ll be fine!

Fedor will beat Randy. No disrespect to Couture. Randy is a tremendous fighter in every way, shape, or form, but MMA has never seen a fighter like Fedor.

Fedor Facts:
1. High Altitude Training yields incomparable cardio
2. Siberian Prison weight training regiment means that swinging sledge hammers and moving large objects is par for the course.
3. Fedor has a daughter and YES that’s the dela with the stupid ass ice cream cone picture
4. Fedor has lost “1” fight, yep not 2, not 3, not 4, but “1” fight due to stoppage from a cut resulting from an illegal elbow that was NOT inadvertantly missed.
5. TK, the man who blemished Fedor’s record, was dis – fucking – mantled as soon as a rematch could be arranged.
6. Fedor has fought every type of fighter and has never back down.

You must be high or something, none of those guys have the striking power that Fedor has in the top guard position…..not even close.

Top Guard? Do you mean from the Mount, or when his opponent has him in a High Guard? I never heard of a Top Guard.

I am assuming that Fedor goes straight to Randy because it’s basically a unification bout. Right? So that means the next fight at 185 should be Dan Henderson vs. whoever wins the Franklin Silvia fight. The UFC has to do this!

dan henderson is under no obligation to go down to 185lbs and doesn’t want to.he’s 6’1" and says that he’s most comfortable at 205lbs. make no mistake, dan will beat alot of guys at 205lbs. i like dan but i would like to see dan have a rematch with my favorite fighter wanderlei silva,at 205lbs.the weight classes were different in pride anyway,205lbs was considered middleweight.wanderlei was champ for 6yrs before dan beat him.

who cant forget the time fedor was power slamed on his head from kevin randlman.. it was so crazzy my spine still gets tingles when i see his neck bend….fedor is a machine

Kickinthehead is a genius, albeit his name is oxymoronical.

Both have chances to win. Randy’s age is a disadvatage. Fedor’s cuts and lack of cage experience is a minus. But the fight is truly the most anticipated. Let both make as much as possible of $$$. This is a market capitalism.

why does everyone put randy on the same pedestal with fedor look at their records

Fedor will beat Randy. No disrespect to Couture. Randy is a tremendous fighter in every way, shape, or form, but MMA has never seen a fighter like Fedor.

Fedor Facts:
1. High Altitude Training yields incomparable cardio
2. Siberian Prison weight training regiment means that swinging sledge hammers and moving large objects is par for the course.
3. Fedor has a daughter and YES that’s the dela with the stupid ass ice cream cone picture
4. Fedor has lost “1” fight, yep not 2, not 3, not 4, but “1” fight due to stoppage from a cut resulting from an illegal elbow that was NOT inadvertantly missed.
5. TK, the man who blemished Fedor’s record, was dis – fucking – mantled as soon as a rematch could be arranged.
6. Fedor has fought every type of fighter and has never back down.

A few other points to add

7: Fedor: superior standup (not takin anythin away from Randy’s though)

8: Fedor is stronger, faster, more powerful, and has a greater arsenal of takedowns (again, taking nothing away from the natural).

9: Randy likes battles of attrition where he sticks to an opponents weak spots, and wears them down, round by round.
Bad news for Randy, Fedor excells at these types of fights (Cro Cop, Nog), and he can finish em quick too (Zulu, Big Daddy). In other words, Fedor is impossible to predict as a fighter.

10: Fedor is always working on his weaknesses, and always improving as a fighter, that is what makes him the best fighter in the world, and it is why he will always be the best fighter in the world.

Statistics say it all man, if Fedor had the supernatural hands you make him out to have, why dosnt everybody he hit go down right away? OR at LEAST more than Chuck, Vitor, Wandi, or Sylvia.

Because he has fought better quality opponents then any of those fighters have, dumbass.

Fedor all the way!!

I bet Randy’s training for this fight by learning how to submit off his back, its his only chance.

And it still wont be enough

Randy is learing how to make fast cuts :)

Fedor’s biggest problem will be the cage grind. Hands down.

Both have chances to win. Randy’s age is a disadvatage. Fedor’s cuts and lack of cage experience is a minus. But the fight is truly the most anticipated. Let both make as much as possible of $$$. This is a market capitalism.

 I agree with this, lets not foget ufc now makes more on the door than they’re disclosed payout. not to mention the 10’s of millons they make on ppv. It’s not that feodr would be making to much at 1.5 mil a fight, it’s more that the other fighters are making to little.(i understand that the disclosed amount is not all the fighters get, that there are bonuses, endorsements, and main carders get ppv%).

Fedor will never be in the UFC. the freedom tower will be built before he steps in the cage

I agree with this, lets not foget ufc now makes more on the door than they’re disclosed payout. not to mention the 10’s of millons they make on ppv. It’s not that feodr would be making to much at 1.5 mil a fight, it’s more that the other fighters are making to little.(i understand that the disclosed amount is not all the fighters get, that there are bonuses, endorsements, and main carders get ppv%).

The best make the most. I don’t want to make everybody equally poor.

I guess this is all a pointless discussion, as i have just read on yahoo sport that fedor has signed with M-1, and Randy Couture has retired again.Kind of dissapointing, i guess the will have a fight for the vacant title early next year, or make the upcoming Big Nog vs Congo a fight for the title.

Here’s the score:
Fedor is probably the best heavy weight the world has seen. He hasn’t lost! You’d expect him to beat Randy baecause he’s not shown fault, and although Randy has only shown little fault, we have seen it.

The thing is Randy has won against the odds throughout his career. Also the pride fighters coming over from Japan (especially the ones you’d think would absolutely clean up) have struggled. I think unless you’ve been in both situations at that level you’re not qualified to suggest why they’ve struggled. Specualtion from a twice a week jiu-jitsu guy just doesn’t mean alot.

BUT they have struggled, all of them: CroCop, Herring, Wandi, Shogun etc.

I think Randy has got a fkn good chance.

Also, who gives a fck how much they’re getting paid. good luck to them if they can demand that amount. I’m more interested in getting a good payrise myself than stopping someone else getting one. As long as we see the fights we want to see then I don’t thinkit’s out business how much they get.

You step in there, see if you want to do it again for less than the max you can negotiate.