Mania I have a question. At one time you was supposed to sponsor Jon Fitch but it got nixed. By who the UFC? and if so why can MMAjunkie sponsor Houston Alexander. He even said the sites name after his win against Sakara.

Mania I have a question. At one time you was supposed to sponsor Jon Fitch but it got nixed. By who the UFC? and if so why can MMAjunkie sponsor Houston Alexander. He even said the sites name after his win against Sakara.

Because it is UFCmania. If it was MMA mania, then he could get the name out there. Since UFC is in it, and fighters can not be sponsered anything with UFC on it, that is why.

When I was watching this fight, I thought to myself, man Diego looks incredibly small compared to Fitch. I think Deigo should drop weight and make 155.

Diego at 155 could be scary, but I think with that talent, I dunno if he could beat alot of people down there.

The UFC is stacked and we are seeing two weel known starrs in Chuck Liddell and Diego struggle.

that sucks, i wanted to see hughes-sanchez,, but fitch-hughes would be nice

I think Diego should give it another shot at WW, against Karo. If he loses, then move down. There’s some interesting match-ups at LW though. Diego vs. KenFlo, or Diego vs. BJ would be BJJ clinics.

umm diego already fought kenflow and it didnt go too well, if i remember he passed kenflows guard in like 10 seconds.

Anyone else thing that Diego looked MUCH smaller then he did 3-4 fights ago?

Diego vs. KenFlo, or Diego vs. BJ would be BJJ clinics.

Sorry but umm… definitely not. Diego’s JJ isnt even CLOSE to being as good as Kenflo’s. Every submission he ‘attempts’ i just that… a really bad attempt. Lastnight’s fight he kept going for this stupidest and most desperate looking armbars. His jujitsu is REALLY lacking…

is anyone else tired of hearing joe rogan pick a favorite in a fight and then only announce in favor of them !! all he did was blow smoke about diego even when he was eatin’ elbows.

Wow. The competition in the UFC is phenomenal! Seriously, as good as Diego is, after facing Koscheck and now Fitch and losing to both, it seems he realizes 170 is not for him.

Also, MMA is different from boxing in that a fighter can lose, and not drop off the face of the earth, which is cool. It’s a lot like football in that any team/fighter can win on any given day — and a loss doesn’t mean a career is over. (Look at Forrest Griffen for example — knocked out by Jardine, only to come back two fights later and beat a top 5 fighter. Good stuff!)

Also, did anyone notice during pre-fight interviews, Sanchez did NOT blame his staff infection for his loss to Koscheck? Instead, he said several times he wasn’t mentally focused… I know it’s in the past, but I thought that was interesting.

Also, did anyone notice during pre-fight interviews, Sanchez did NOT blame his staff infection for his loss to Koscheck? Instead, he said several times he wasn’t mentally focused… I know it’s in the past, but I thought that was interesting.

He wasnt as focused for this fight either… Not taking anything from Fitch, but I think Diego fights well when people are affraid, and run from him… When he charged out the first and second round, Fitch took care of him with ease. 3rd round he was a scared lil kid. Definitely needs to get his marbles in one bag.

It did look like he was alot smaller than fitch. He definitely couldnt power through him. But he definitely looked better than the kos fight. This is off the sub but did anyone notice rogans remark about how japanese people are wierd. Then try to fix it by saying they were wierd about what they thought entertainment was. Which was still a racist and/or prejudice thing to say. Also im tired of hearing say feather in your hat. Makes me think of robin hood. Gay.

I know why Diego lost…He is secretly a Salsa Dance Instructor!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovtql_8sLDs

Should have been a unanimous decision for Fitch!

Diego has not only lost 2 fights, he has lost his way mentally. Drop down to LW? Pack on more muscle? Everyone loses. What makes Randy Couture a legend is ability to stay focused and come back better. I hate to say it but if Diego keeps this attitude up, he won’t have a chance in ANY weight class.

I think Diego should give it another shot at WW, against Karo. If he loses, then move down. There’s some interesting match-ups at LW though. Diego vs. KenFlo, or Diego vs. BJ would be BJJ clinics.

He already beat Karo. If Sanchez can make LW that would be great. He isn’t going anywhere at WW at this point although that match was very close last night and I think you can make a strong case for Sanchez getting the decision over Fitch. Fitch controlled the takedown situation but that was it. Rogan repeatedly talked about the scoring model not being adequate and sure enough last night we had several fights where that was a factor.

It did look like he was alot smaller than fitch. He definitely couldnt power through him. But he definitely looked better than the kos fight. This is off the sub but did anyone notice rogans remark about how japanese people are wierd. Then try to fix it by saying they were wierd about what they thought entertainment was. Which was still a racist and/or prejudice thing to say. Also im tired of hearing say feather in your hat. Makes me think of robin hood. Gay.

They seem weird to me too so I see nothing wrong with that comment. That’s not racist comment. Nationalist perhaps.

It did look like he was alot smaller than fitch. He definitely couldnt power through him. But he definitely looked better than the kos fight. This is off the sub but did anyone notice rogans remark about how japanese people are wierd. Then try to fix it by saying they were wierd about what they thought entertainment was. Which was still a racist and/or prejudice thing to say. Also im tired of hearing say feather in your hat. Makes me think of robin hood. Gay.

No, looking through a Western lense, what the Japanese find entertaining IS wierd. No big deal, it is what it is. Wierd isn’t a very strong word and it is a pretty apt observation if you are from the states. Take your PC b.s. elsewhere.

And Diego showed great class last night. No excuses, no bitching about the scoring system. He just said I have to do better next time.

Tito- are you listening?!

This is off the sub but did anyone notice rogans remark about how japanese people are wierd. Then try to fix it by saying they were wierd about what they thought entertainment was. Which was still a racist and/or prejudice thing to say. Also im tired of hearing say feather in your hat. Makes me think of robin hood. Gay.

You accuse someone of being a racist only to turn around and make a “homophobic” comment by using the term “gay” in a negative way. Nice. Next time, just stick to talking about MMA.

Diego is gonna own at lightweight

good fight, as the came in half the crowd was for fitch the other half for sanchez, by the end of the fight everyone was cheering for fitch and everyone was booing for sanchez. he sucked, just like kos fight. i have no idea why they gave him a split decision, he truly lost all 3 rounds. i was holding my breathe thought they might give him the spit as well as jardine, . maybe he should go down the lightweight that coward, what is he gonna do there they are loaded with talent to kick his butt as well

coming down all the way from 185 to 155? i doubt it… he should just get back in the gym, he has lost a lot of muscle, he really looked small last night, had he had the body mass he had against Karo, he would have won easily…i think that eventhough fitch was on top, he didn’t do shit all night long, although i’m not complaining about the decision. who’s next, fitch vs KOS?

Well I did like Sanchez but it seems like he’s lost his way mentally. The kid’s got tremendous heart and endurance but I think his training before his bout with Kos was the problem. He stuck with one training regime and did not alter his gameplan based on his next opponent. For the Fitch fight, he switches camp completely which I thought was a real bad idea (come on, one loss should not warrant this) and we saw the results. I don’t think Diego fought bad against Fitch, it’s just he can fight better. Whatever happens in the WW division now, there’s one guy u can count on to own all the other fighters at 170…that man is GSP.

I think Diego should give it another shot at WW, against Karo. If he loses, then move down. There’s some interesting match-ups at LW though. Diego vs. KenFlo, or Diego vs. BJ would be BJJ clinics.

He ruffed up Kenflo pretty bad when they fought and he beat Karo too…

He already beat Karo. If Sanchez can make LW that would be great. He isn’t going anywhere at WW at this point although that match was very close last night and I think you can make a strong case for Sanchez getting the decision over Fitch. Fitch controlled the takedown situation but that was it. Rogan repeatedly talked about the scoring model not being adequate and sure enough last night we had several fights where that was a factor.

you must be smoking crack if you think that was a close fight. Fitch owned him most of the fight

is anyone else tired of hearing joe rogan pick a favorite in a fight and then only announce in favor of them !! all he did was blow smoke about diego even when he was eatin’ elbows.

i’ve noticed that too. then at the end of the round they show clips from it and all the clips they show make the losing fighter look like he’s winning. they did that all night long.

And Diego showed great class last night. No excuses, no bitching about the scoring system. He just said I have to do better next time.

Tito- are you listening?!

Yeah man, Diego definitely looked more of a standup guy then I thought. Guy is taking his loss well.
Anyone else think Fitch really won over the crowd and fans lastnight?

And Diego showed great class last night. No excuses, no bitching about the scoring system. He just said I have to do better next time.

Tito- are you listening?!

Excellent point, he had been acting quite the punk, with the KOS push at the weigh in, failed drug test and the general arrogent attitude. I definately agree he showed a lot of class last night; my respect for him is improving

Well I did like Sanchez but it seems like he’s lost his way mentally. The kid’s got tremendous heart and endurance but I think his training before his bout with Kos was the problem. He stuck with one training regime and did not alter his gameplan based on his next opponent. For the Fitch fight, he switches camp completely which I thought was a real bad idea (come on, one loss should not warrant this) and we saw the results. I don’t think Diego fought bad against Fitch, it’s just he can fight better. Whatever happens in the WW division now, there’s one guy u can count on to own all the other fighters at 170…that man is GSP.

I agree completely..GSP all the way. I heard a rumor that the UFC is coming to Montreal in January (only a rumor at this point). This could make things interesting though if it pans out. Since Hughes and Serra are scheduled for Dec, this would mean that GSP would have to fight once more before the title as opposed to what was thought to be a title shot for his next fight. This is all under the assumption that GSP would fight on the Montreal card and who in their right mind would not put him on the Montreal card?? Can we potentially see GSP vs. Fitch in January? The timing works out well given Dec for the WW title (matt vs. matt) and Jan for GSP..the next fight after that could be for the title. Fitch will be ready for January too and GSP will have not fought since Aug 25th. Notice how the camera went right to him after Fitch won it.

Well I did like Sanchez but it seems like he’s lost his way mentally. The kid’s got tremendous heart and endurance but I think his training before his bout with Kos was the problem. He stuck with one training regime and did not alter his gameplan based on his next opponent. For the Fitch fight, he switches camp completely which I thought was a real bad idea (come on, one loss should not warrant this) and we saw the results. I don’t think Diego fought bad against Fitch, it’s just he can fight better. Whatever happens in the WW division now, there’s one guy u can count on to own all the other fighters at 170…that man is GSP.

I disagree. The WW division is upside down right now. Anyone can beat anyone. And in fact I think that is how all of the divisions are right now, save the possible exceptions of Rampage, A. Silva, and even Randy, who I will never bet against ever. The rest of them will continue beating each other until someone eventually stand out. But that how is fighting competition goes, it runs in cycles of dominating champions and confused divisions where everyone beats each other with no concrete champs. I think we will continue to see a few upsets before we see any dominating figures.

Whatever happens in the WW division now, there’s one guy u can count on to own all the other fighters at 170…that man is GSP.

I agree.

I thought Diego looked good last night and actually won. I think he should stick at welter weigt. He is still a top five ww in my mind

I don’t think Diego is a top 5 WW. Serra, Hughes, GSP, Fitch, and Kos are the top 5. But Diego is 6th. Diego and Fitch are the only top guys that GSP hasn’t fought yet. I wouldn’t mind seeing GSP fight either guy, instead of a layoff until April or whenever.

Diego should pack on a little muscle and stay at WW… he overpowered Gassaway when he was new in the WW division… he needs to get that muscle back and focus on out-hustling the competition… I had Diego winning the fight, but it was close. Fitch did a nice job, I say he fights GSP and gets beat.

WW Div:
1) GSP
2) Fitch
3) Serra (because hes the champ)
4) Hughes
5) Karo
6) Kos/Sanchez (I say they rematch to clear up the score)

Bring Nick Diaz back!

Diego is gonna own at lightweight

NO NO NO..BJ PENN will forever dominate the Lightweight Division until he steps up to welterweight again to beat GSP and Hughes.

I agree with what some people here said already – Diego looked smaller and physically weaker than he was in his fights right after the Ultimate Fighter show. He actually said it in an interview himself, he was trying to become the faster and more nimble and technical jiu-jitsu fighter, and wasn’t doing as much strength training as before. I think the losses, switching camps, moving, getting a woman, all of this had an impact on him. He totally abandonded what worked for him – being strong, taking people down, and grounding and pounding them. Instead, he decided to focus on jiu-jitsu and boxing. I don’t really think his standup is all that impressive, especially with the time he spends in the boxing gym.

Yesterday’s fight was a good one. Fitch was just too strong for Diego. Diego pushed the pace from the start and did more work from the bottom then Fitch did anywhere. The entire third round, and a good part of the second round, consisted of Fitch doing the lay and pray in Diego’s guard and fighting off Diego’s submission attempts. So I am not surprised that it was a split decision. I scored the first round for Fitch, third one for Diego, and felt the second round could have gone either way. Gotta give it to Fitch though, he was the stronger of the two and a better wrestler. Diego will have to settle down and next time actually come up with an opponent-specific strategy. It will be very interesting to see Fitch’s next fight. It would make sense for him to fight either KOS (which is unlikely, since they are both AKA fighters) or the winner of the Karo/Sakurai fight. Something tells me that Diego (assuming he is not going to move to LW) will probably fight Josh Burkman next. On a Fight Night.

should fitch fight karo or gsp? hmmmmmmmm…

because what else is gsp gonna do? he’ll be waiting till like march at the earliest to fight the winner of hughes/serra..

Bring Nick Diaz back!

I second that. Sheer excitement in every fight.

WW Div:
1) GSP
2) Fitch
3) Serra (because hes the champ)
4) Hughes
5) Karo
6) Kos/Sanchez (I say they rematch to clear up the score)
Bring Nick Diaz back!

Why is Karo ranked above Diego if Diego already beat him.

I’m a little over the edge right now with that fight. Diego, it wasn’t his best fight but damn he looked good down there.
He also looked alot shorter then Fitch but wasn’t the height only an inch difference?
He looked, in general, alot god damn smaller.

Sanchez would win the title in 155

Sanchez would win the title in 155

The only way Diego Sanchez would win the belt is if he fought Joe Stevenson or Kenny Florian for it. There is NO WAY Diego Sanchez could beat BJ PENN. If your saying DIEGO SANCHEZ could win the title in 155, than your saying JOSH KOSHCKECK AND JON FITCH can beat BJ PENN. PENN is the #1 contender for the tilte, so WHEN HE WINS THE BELT, no other fighter will win the BELT until BJ’s waist gets sore from wearing it.

Well I did like Sanchez but it seems like he’s lost his way mentally. The kid’s got tremendous heart and endurance but I think his training before his bout with Kos was the problem. He stuck with one training regime and did not alter his gameplan based on his next opponent. For the Fitch fight, he switches camp completely which I thought was a real bad idea (come on, one loss should not warrant this) and we saw the results. I don’t think Diego fought bad against Fitch, it’s just he can fight better. Whatever happens in the WW division now, there’s one guy u can count on to own all the other fighters at 170…that man is GSP.

gsp went to greg jacksons after one loss to matt serra if im not mistaken. thats part of the reason diego left

I think its giving up when a fighter leaves his wieght class after losing fights. Going to another wieght class will not solve Diegos losing streak. Your either a top level fighter or your not. If he does drop down to LW Kenny Florian along with others could beat him. Mike Swick did the same thing he was doing great looking like he was close to a title shot loses to Okami and all the sudden wants to drop wieght. Your either a top level fighter or your not bottom line.

Diego Sanchez is a great middleweights, but with mental blocks that is not letting him be the fighter he is. He shouldnt drop to 155, just take a couple of weeks off n getting away from the training, and start again in a while. Dropping to 155 is like if he is giving up….diego should stay in WW n win more fights by changing fighting strategies n fight George SP in a couple fights.

Diego needs a good camp and stop with the boxing coaches that say they are repping him for everything when they are not. He should pack on some muscle and train in the clench much more. Just ask Fitch, even if you don’t have a belt you can still be a successful fighter, and one of my favorites. (even though Diego is NOT one of mine!)

Fitch = Purple Belt

Sanchez = White Belt

Maybe going for subs wasn’t the best idea. But really, he’s a great fighter, with a lot of heart. Prolly just needs to hit the weights. I think Sanchez has no where to go but up at this point.

I don’t think he’d beat Penn, Sherk, or Stevenson, any time in the near future.

Why is Karo ranked above Diego if Diego already beat him.

Just because Diego is on a 2 fight losing streak while Karo is on a 2 fight win streak… though Karo beat Burkman and Fickett (B level fighters) while Diego lost to Kos and Fitch (A level).
And I put Fitch #2 because I think he would beat Serra and out wrestle Hughes…. him facing Karo or GSP will give a better idea where he should be… I still think Diego won the fight since Fitch wasn’t very active from the dominant position… a few hammer fist, but not much else.

and also, Diego was active from the bottom… but dominat position is dominant position… so I see why it went for Fitch… but I agree with Joe Rogan on his scoring comments, boxing type scoring isnt fit for MMA.

the rules need an update, maybe there was a time when nobody complain about the rules but c’mon, Tavarez and Sanchez try to finish the figth and they still lose. And they should change the name to Upset Fighting Championship

I dont think Diego should drop to 155. Diego’s problem may be that for the last 2 fights he has used Oscar De La Hoya’s strength and conditioning coach. For eaxample, at UFC 69 against KOS he did not aggressively hunt for takedowns or clinches. You cannot use one training philosophy (boxing) and bring it to the Octagon because you you need many tools like power aggression and stamina. Hope Diego goes back to what worked for him,raw power and strength.

The only way Diego Sanchez would win the belt is if he fought Joe Stevenson or Kenny Florian for it. There is NO WAY Diego Sanchez could beat BJ PENN. If your saying DIEGO SANCHEZ could win the title in 155, than your saying JOSH KOSHCKECK AND JON FITCH can beat BJ PENN. PENN is the #1 contender for the tilte, so WHEN HE WINS THE BELT, no other fighter will win the BELT until BJ’s waist gets sore from wearing it.

fitch landed some bombs on diegos face. diego had a guillotine but fitch was thumbs up the whole time.but as a whole fitch pretty much dominated the fight. i will say one thing if sanchez fought like that last time he would of whooped KOS’ ass.

Comparing KOS to fitch i am wondering why gsp even had to waist his time fighting the lesser of the two training partners

You will see BJ take the lightwt belt and then move to welterwt just for the added excitement and increase his chances of adding his name to the hall of fame.

Sanchez should do well top 3 in 155lb. Its true he should just suck it up and pick a camp and stay at welterwt, thats where the excitement is compared to 155.

1. Matt Serra
2. Matt Hughs
3. GSP
4. Kos
5. Fitch
6. Diego
7. Karo

This is really the current ranking. However throw Other possibilities into the mix like potential movers like BjPENN/Mike Swick/Nick Diaz and Sherk if he isnt suspended in and make all the fights happen right now I think you would see a list like this…

1. GSP
2. BJPENN
3. Matt Hughs
4. Sean Sherk (If not Suspended and wanted to move up)
5. Karo
6. Fitch
7. Nick Diaz
8. Royce Gracie
9. Mike Swick (He is moving down eh?)
10. Matt Serra
     
    I dont know thats what I think if a big ass tournament was to happen.

Sorry guys I for got a few other fighters… and had to make changes…

In my reality it would be…

1. GSP
2. BJPENN
3. Matt Hughs
4. Sean Sherk (If not Suspended and wanted to move up)
5. Karo
6. Fitch
7. Nick Diaz
8. Royce Gracie
9. T. Gomi
10. Josh Koschek
11. Diego Sanchez
12. Mike Swick (He is moving down eh?)
13. Matt Serra

I dont know thats what I think if a big tournament was to happen. Some are losing game/focus while others are gaining.

Diego at 155 sounds like a good idea.

Diego at 155 sounds like a good idea.

Why would he want to make that drop at all. He will never win the Lightweight belt as long as BJ PENN is in that division. The only reason he would want to make a drop to lightweight is to get wins against a bunch of average fighters. He would be the second best fighter. If he does go down to lightweight, he will never become champion as long as BJ PENN is there.

I wasn’t all that impressed with fitch and don’t feel he could match power either gsp or huges. Sanchez looked weak out there not like his old self, I feel the old sanchez would have defeated fitch. Fitch is just a huge welter weight, pound for pound sanchez is a better figher, fitch just overpowered sanchez. Fitch to me looks like a big stiff goof, not very fluid in his movements and the only thing he has is raw power. If he faced a stronger fighter like hughes or gsp he wouldn’t know were to go, and I imagine he would look frightened and confused like kos against gsp.

I know this is off topic but to sort things out in light heavy why not

Championship: Rampage v Wandi
Rematch Forrest v Jardine
Machida v Alexander

That would make things a little more sorted.

and one of these winners fight the winner of
tito v rashad 2

if someone manages to win

or shogun fight that winner and the two other fights decide no1 contender

How absolutely impossible is it to make a decent top 10 for light heavyweight right now? Rampage is the champ at light heavyweight, but he got destroyed by Shogun and Wanderlei, the latter of which lost to Henderson who lost to Rampage. The thing is, Shogun lost to Griffin pretty handily while Jardine dispatched Griffin in round one. But Jardine was beaten in a similar fashion by Houston Alexander shortly thereafter, but he then went on to defeat the most dominate light heavyweight UFC has ever seen.

Taking all that into account, Houston Alexander, with his two measly wins, would be number one. It’s a hard division to figure out.

Why would he want to make that drop at all. He will never win the Lightweight belt as long as BJ PENN is in that division. The only reason he would want to make a drop to lightweight is to get wins against a bunch of average fighters. He would be the second best fighter. If he does go down to lightweight, he will never become champion as long as BJ PENN is there.

Well being 2nd is better than 5th or 6th or 7th. He has a better chance of getting a title fight at LW, and we all know anything can happen in one fight. It’s getting a string of wins to get a title shot that is troubling Diego at 170.

How absolutely impossible is it to make a decent top 10 for light heavyweight right now? Rampage is the champ at light heavyweight, but he got destroyed by Shogun and Wanderlei, the latter of which lost to Henderson who lost to Rampage. The thing is, Shogun lost to Griffin pretty handily while Jardine dispatched Griffin in round one. But Jardine was beaten in a similar fashion by Houston Alexander shortly thereafter, but he then went on to defeat the most dominate light heavyweight UFC has ever seen.

Taking all that into account, Houston Alexander, with his two measly wins, would be number one. It’s a hard division to figure out.

I hear that.

Here’s my thought. Houston Alexander is going to become a Jason MacDonald type. Right now everyone is like oh man, but it will even out eventually. What Alexander has for standup in his first 2 ufc wins, Macdonald demonstrated on the ground in his first 2 ufc wins. Both got a couple wins right off the bat but just like Macdonald, Alexander will move down the ladder shortly. He is going to get placed with a big name in his next fight. A true ground warrior should be able to get him to the floor.

Fitch won all 3 rounds. Diego’s submission attempts all failed. He got dropped on his head and smashed with hammer fists. I know don’t what fight some of these readers were watching. We were at the fight and can tell you there’s a reason all the fans were cheering for Fitch by the end of the fight. Diego handled it with class, but even he knows he lost that fight.

He wasnt as focused for this fight either… Not taking anything from Fitch, but I think Diego fights well when people are affraid, and run from him… When he charged out the first and second round, Fitch took care of him with ease. 3rd round he was a scared lil kid. Definitely needs to get his marbles in one bag.

I don’t think he was scared at all. I think he fought his nuts off. He was just over-powered by a much bigger fighter. I bet Fitch was at least 15-20 lbs. heavier than Diego by fight time. I told the guys I was watching the fight with that it looked like to me that Diego could make 155 and I think he could be a power house at that weight.

You accuse someone of being a racist only to turn around and make a “homophobic” comment by using the term “gay” in a negative way. Nice. Next time, just stick to talking about MMA.

i was thinking it before i read your comment. good shit

did i see royce gracie on a list?.. its 2007 kid. That man has possibly the worst stand up i have ever seen. Also BJJ is not new to anyone anymore. UFC 1, 2, 3 noone knew WTF this guy was doing. Those days are over. That guy would not make it out of the 1st round against anyone else on the list. Diaz or Penn could potentially submit him

WORD!!!! Man I hope Diego dosnt give up that easily. There are still a lot of good fights to be had at 170 for him.

Ha, BJ Penn is overrated… hes talented, yes, but if he was as good as the people hanging off his nuts say, he would have been on a tear long ago, much like Liddells… BJ is an A fighter with a B for dedication.

Ha, BJ Penn is overrated… hes talented, yes, but if he was as good as the people hanging off his nuts say, he would have been on a tear long ago, much like Liddells… BJ is an A fighter with a B for dedication.

first person that looks at mania.com that feels the way i do, by the way people talk about him you would think he is undefeated. I have never seen so many people love a guy. Do u agree with everyone else in thinking he is a lock for #1 contender?,, what did he do to earn that except beat jens pulver who is underskilled and undersized? lost to Hughes and GSP. someone explain to me exactly what puts him over stevenson or florian

NO NO NO..BJ PENN will forever dominate the Lightweight Division until he steps up to welterweight again to beat GSP and Hughes.

damn straight, betta recognize

Ha, BJ Penn is overrated… hes talented, yes, but if he was as good as the people hanging off his nuts say, he would have been on a tear long ago, much like Liddells… BJ is an A fighter with a B for dedication.
first person that looks at mania.com that feels the way i do, by the way people talk about him you would think he is undefeated. I have never seen so many people love a guy. Do u agree with everyone else in thinking he is a lock for #1 contender?,, what did he do to earn that except beat jens pulver who is underskilled and undersized? lost to Hughes and GSP. someone explain to me exactly what puts him over stevenson or florian

I also feel the same way as you two. So many people that that he is a God of MMA. Yeah he’s a great fighter but I see a few Light Weights beating him, such as Florian, and my boy Stevenson. I was never a BJ Penn fan, nor do I plan on it, but you have to respect his skills.

first person that looks at mania.com that feels the way i do, by the way people talk about him you would think he is undefeated. I have never seen so many people love a guy. Do u agree with everyone else in thinking he is a lock for #1 contender?,, what did he do to earn that except beat jens pulver who is underskilled and undersized? lost to Hughes and GSP.

someone explain to me exactly what puts him over stevenson or florian

Let’s see… BJ beat Serra, Gomi, Hughes, finished a fight against LHW star Lyoto Machida, Renzo Gracie, lost a split decision to GSP which could have gone either way, was winning the fight against Hughes until he broke his ribs, and then tooled Jens Pulver. I think that’s a good enough resume, no?

I know that Diego beat K Flo at 170 but I do not think that if Diego drops down that he can beat K Flo in that weight class.

I know this is off topic but to sort things out in light heavy why not

Championship: Rampage v Wandi
Rematch Forrest v Jardine
Machida v Alexander

That would make things a little more sorted.

and one of these winners fight the winner of
tito v rashad 2

if someone manages to win

Why would Wanderlei step in and fight for the championship he should fight Jardine winner gets a title shot. Forest should be the one to fight Rampage b/c he should take over Shoguns title shot. Jardine should get the fight that Chuck was in line for.

Diego, you lost again ha ha!! You cocky arrogant prick got what you deserve! I wish you would got KTFO! Will move down to 155 and let BJ do it!!

Diego to 155? In an interview with Diego prior to the Fitch fight, he said that when he;s not training, he walks around over 190lbs. When he is training, it more like a little over 180. That would be a HUGE cut for him to make 155. What a coward. Is he scared of Koscheck now? Did he realize that he’s no longer the Nightmare? Maybe the Josh Rafferty’s of the world have nightmared the night before fighting Diego, abut anyone near the top of the WW division lick thier chops at the thought of fighring Diego. The only problem with that is, after 2 straight losses, Diego won’t be fighting anyone near the Top 5. THe UFC needs to call up Brain Gassaway from from the WEC so Diego can get a win!

I don’t think that Diego would have much more success at 155. Diego usually has a quickness advantage at WW, but he would no longer have this advantage at 155.

BJ would take him to school
Sherk would put him on his back over and over again.
Tyson Griffin would beat him by decision

However, there would sure be a lot of exciting matchups for him at 155 such as Diego vs

a rematch vs Kenny Florian, this time at 155
Clay Guida
Thiago Tavarez

Speaking of the LW division, why doesn’t the UFC go after Gilbert Melendez? ALSO, I believe that Jake Shields is ready to take the final step up in competition and get signed by the UFC.

Diego is gonna own at lightweight

I disagree. I think he will struggle to make that weight and will fight against guys who are already comfortable with being a lightweight. I also think Joe Lauzon will be making some noise in that division in the coming year.

i’ve noticed that too. then at the end of the round they show clips from it and all the clips they show make the losing fighter look like he’s winning. they did that all night long.

I’m glad you guys noticed that too. Diego was getting dominated. Sure, Diego ATTEMPTED a couple of submissions, but Fitch was opening up Sanchez’s nose and right eyebrow and having his way with Sanchez.

Why Rogan thinks Diego’s two submission attempts in the third round should pose a serious question as to how matches should be scored is beyond me. Rogan is smarter than that.

I don’t know why the Mickey’s replay didn’t show Fitch’s hammer fists landing on Diego’s face while Fitch was sitting on him. Diego got man handled. 30-27 Fitch.

Does anyone think Diego won? If so, please explain.

Why would he want to make that drop at all. He will never win the Lightweight belt as long as BJ PENN is in that division. The only reason he would want to make a drop to lightweight is to get wins against a bunch of average fighters. He would be the second best fighter. If he does go down to lightweight, he will never become champion as long as BJ PENN is there.

Yeah maybe but he’ll never beat Fitch, Hughes and GSP at WW. Just think he might be more competitive at that weight whatever. How is that a bad idea. Seems like people just like to disagree for the sake of it.

Diego needs to go train with Randy. He has been training with a Gi at Ribero’s camp because its was supposed to tighten his ju jitsu. Im not really disapointed in Diego, he fought fitch who is a supperior wrestler and a much bigger and stronger opponent.
At least Diego came to fight this time. I think Diego should just add strength instead of cutting down to 155.

Im not saying Fitch didnt deserve the win because he really did, but the scoring system is extremely flaweed and needs some fine tunning.

I dont see anyone stopping Fitch except for GSP. GSP vs. Fitch would be a great fight. Their wrestling matches up and they have simular height and strength, it would make for a very exciting fight.

Next logical opponent for Diego should be Kos. They both hold 1 win over the other, Diego was half dead intheir 1st fight. Might as well let em fight again since neither is truly ready to compete for the 170 lb title.

Yeah maybe but he’ll never beat Fitch, Hughes and GSP at WW. Just think he might be more competitive at that weight whatever. How is that a bad idea. Seems like people just like to disagree for the sake of it.

You think Bj Penn can’t beat Fitch. So what, Fitch beat Josh Burkman and Thiago Alves. Look at the rest of his fights, there all against “cupcake” opponents. I don’t even think he deserved to win the decision unanimously against Sanchez. I like Fitch as a fighter but he ain’t no BJ PENN. Secondly BJ did beat Matt Hughes the 1st time. The only reason he lost the second time was because he injured his rib during the second round. The only problem for BJ is GSP. The only reason why GSP won the fight against PENN was because he scored points with the takedowns. Other than that, BJ dominated the entire fight.
I think it’s a bad idea for Diego Sanchez because it seems that he wants to drop to Lightweight for the wrong reasons. DON’T EVER TELL ME THAT I’M ARGUING JUST FOR THE SAKE OF IT BECAUSE I’M NOT. I just defended all of the rebuttles.

Fitch won all 3 rounds. Diego’s submission attempts all failed. He got dropped on his head and smashed with hammer fists. I know don’t what fight some of these readers were watching. We were at the fight and can tell you there’s a reason all the fans were cheering for Fitch by the end of the fight. Diego handled it with class, but even he knows he lost that fight.

yeah fitch won fair and square, but did not totally dominate diego. some of fitch’s best moments came when diego put himself in harms way and try to finish the fight. fitch never once did anything to finish the fight. i thoght 29-28 for fitch was fair. you were right about fitch being much bigger and stronger than diego. i could really tell the difference at the start of the fight. how much longer do you think fitch’s body can make 170. he resemble’s yushin okami in build and was a pound over at the weigh-ins. after this fight i think if fitch fights everyone else at ww the same way he did diego (kinda a little too much lay-n-pray) he beats everyone except gsp. he wont be able to do to gsp what he did to diego. i can see fitch fighting for the title in about a year if he can still make 170.

I am a Sanchez fan and did not really know much about Fitch. When they were called to the middle at the begining of the fight to listen to the referee, there was a significant size difference between the two. Is Fitch that big or is Diego that small. I was hoping Diego was going to win, but he was simply not strong enough, Fitch really out muscled him. The split discision did not surprise me, because Diego was really busy going for plenty of submissions all the time and even though Fitch was taking him down, he really could not do that much damage to Diego when he had him on the ground. Diego never had any issues with Fitch at all thats why he was respectful and humble towards him, Koscheck was a wanker who was always bad mouthing and winding up Diego, that is why things got as heated as they did. It would be good to see Diego fight this guy again if he decides get some strength and a bit more muscle on, but the best fighter won that night.

Let’s see… BJ beat Serra, Gomi, Hughes, finished a fight against LHW star Lyoto Machida, Renzo Gracie, lost a split decision to GSP which could have gone either way, was winning the fight against Hughes until he broke his ribs, and then tooled Jens Pulver. I think that’s a good enough resume, no?

im not saying he is not a skilled fighter. Im just saying that people love him a little to much. I also dont see how he is a lock for #1 contender. If sherk is not stripped he needs to fight either stevenson or florian to become number one contender. even though sherk vs penn will be fight of the year.

Make the move Diego. You will be Champ! Diego could fight the winner of BJ/Joe because Sherk is out of the question. Sherk is definetly popped. BJ/Diego in early 2008

The only way Diego Sanchez would win the belt is if he fought Joe Stevenson or Kenny Florian for it. There is NO WAY Diego Sanchez could beat BJ PENN. If your saying DIEGO SANCHEZ could win the title in 155, than your saying JOSH KOSHCKECK AND JON FITCH can beat BJ PENN. PENN is the #1 contender for the tilte, so WHEN HE WINS THE BELT, no other fighter will win the BELT until BJ’s waist gets sore from wearing it.

Koscheck didnt really beat Sanchez in my oppinion. Fitch might of, but he looked impressive. I dont think he could beat GSP or Hughes but I can see that he would wipe the floor with the rest of 170’s including teamate KOS. Going back to Sanchez. I sure as hell think he would give BJ a run

damn straight, betta recognize

Hell yeah, been sayin it for years.

THE ANOMALY: Thanks 4 agreeing with me. There are so many BJ PENN haters. He will absolutely dominate the Lightweight division. I think we both agree that if he went back up to welterweight he would be at the top as long as he has the “passion and focus” that he has currently.

I do not see BJ Penn beating GSP. Especially if it was a title fight that was 5 rounds. Of course, I could be wrong, but that is my opinion.

THE ANOMALY: Thanks 4 agreeing with me. There are so many BJ PENN haters. He will absolutely dominate the Lightweight division. I think we both agree that if he went back up to welterweight he would be at the top as long as he has the “passion and focus” that he has currently.

bj is either number 1 or 2 in the light weight division but I’m not sure he’s top 5 in the welter weight division, he’s too small. He’s how I see the top 5.

       1.gsp
       2.hughes
       3.koscheck
       4.fitch
       5.diego

Is it just me or is Sanshez a big headed dweeeeb

i think he should definitely move to lw, he looked WAY smaller than fitch and fitch was definitely stronger…i didn’t think diego would even consider the move after two straight losses though, i thought he would have too much pride for that, but i’m glad he is thinking about it, he would be a top top contender at lw…

wow,diego at 155,love to see penn vs. diego

sanchez pussy

wow,diego at 155,love to see penn vs. diego

Diego, stupid hair, daft beard, big head crap fighter, di ckless wonder