Go Hamill. We all know you won.

Tell Bisping the fans wish he would fall down a well.

Classy guy and I LOVE the shirt.

Shirt is definitely PHOTOSHOPPED.

LOL funny shirt, to be honest the loss is probably the best thing that ever happened to him, it made him the center of attention and took the spot light from the main event. It was probably the biggest bandwagon jump I’ve ever seen, fans = $$$$$, bisping is a moron.

Shirt is definitely PHOTOSHOPPED.

If it is … we did NOT do it.

funny pic. Shirt is photoshopped

its a photoshop

Pure Class… one of my new fav fighters!!

Hamill won we know it. and bisping is a coward with no class.. i hope he gets gang banged

Hammil won the fight, and Bisping got his hand raised.

Love the shirt love the guy!
Hamill was not very popular on the internet the past year.
He was a huge undedog and people wanted to see his head get kicked in by Bisping.

The next time he fights in vegas that crowd is going to go crazy for him! How things change.

Class. Nothing but class. Going into that fight I was a Bisping fan. Now, I can not wait to see Hamill fight again and couldn’t care less if I ever see Bisping fight again.

And the shirt = photochopped (and badly at that).

I hate reading quotes from him, because even though they’re in print I still hear deaf guy voice in my head.

ortiz is right he does have a heart like a champion

I found it ironic how the tables have turned..Matt Hammil going from super wrestler jock mentality not liked or rooted for by many..to leave his his heart and perform to his best..in front of his opponents home turf..and get robbed in the decision..and to comment in a way that he stole the home crowd from Bisping..Wow!! That shit was amazing..and to have Michael Bisping..the poster boy of UFC/UK..Mr.Nice, funny, carismatic..who didn’t like Matt on the TUF show..won it, gained celeb statis..in the US and in the UK..to look like an amatuer figher..Scared..tripping over himself..running for his life..to be awarded a gift decision..to open his mouth..and have this Almighty Bisping Complex piss on his own counrty men..and get booed in his " arena".

Its ironic how the tables have turned.

I found it ironic how the tables have turned..Matt Hammil going from super wrestler jock mentality not liked or rooted for by many..to leave his his heart and perform to his best…

Yeah, Im with you… but Im sure there still is a lot of ego wrapped up in him. He has to be REALLY bad if Tito wont even train with him anymore…
Not taking anything away from the guy, he got robbed… and fought his heart out.

Nice T-Shirt. Very gracious and humble and a true fighter in every sense of the word. I cannot speak highly enough of him.

Ok, so Matt Hamill got screwed over by the judges’ decision. And all of a sudden he is everyone’s hero? I saw the fight, Bisping clearly lost at least 2 rounds, even though personally I would have given Hamill all three. I was probably as surprised as Bisping when his hand got raised. At the end of the day Bisping is a solid fighter, but very far from outstanding, and he won’t be able to deal with what the top tier light heavy-weight and middle-weight fighters have to offer. I really don’t see him going far. I don’t consider Hamill to be any better.

What is surprising to me is that how Hamill got so many fans all of a sudden? He got screwed? Cry me a river! He will definitely have another opportunity to prove himself. But it’s like everyone turned into Danny Abbadi overnight. Hey, can you make Matt a sandwich?

If the Ufc does not straighten this stuff out, they will go down like boxing. Bisbeng: you got your tail kicked and to stad there and say: “I outboxed him” was al too telling, in other words, you got a gift. You looked real good tripping over yor feet and getting taken down at will only to be let up and pummeled again. Wonder how the “count” would match up with Houston Alexander?

Hamill’s only weakness I saw was his conditioning, and his jab was a little sloppy but that didnt matter cause it was setting Bisping up for right hands. If he can improve his conditioning Hamill is going to be a MONSTER.

Hamill won we know it. and bisping is a coward with no class.. i hope he gets gang banged

True that – u r fn hilarious

In every other possible way besides the actual official win in the record, Hamill has won. From Saturday forward, Bisbing will increasingly see just how badly he lost. He has already lost a ton of fans due to his post-fight comments as even fans in the UK were booing his performance and attitude. It’s a downward spiral from here on for Bisbing as his true character came out on Saturday night and it wasn’t pretty.

Imagine if Bisbing went over and raised Hamill’s hand after the decision. Imagine if he actually said that he thought Hamill won this fight. It’s been done before by other fighters and think of how Bisbing would have been viewed if he did that. Sadly, true sportsmanship is just not in him and he showed that. Now he’ll face the repercussions while Hamill enjoys the rewards.

Cheers to you Hamill, a true man.

Go Hammill!!! One of my favourite fighters

I think if Bisping would have acted more gracious after the decision he wouldn’t get such bad press. But he was acting like an ass and made the comment about Go back to wrestling to Hamil after the fight. Hamil proved he belonged in there so he at least should have said good fight man.

I found it ironic how the tables have turned..Matt Hammil going from super wrestler jock mentality not liked or rooted for by many..to leave his his heart and perform to his best..in front of his opponents home turf

It was very much like Rocky IV except Hammil speaks more intelligibly than Stallone.

I really dont care to much about any of this mess. What I took from the fight is how bad the UFC scoring system is. Instead of judging fights on a round by round basis, we should put more emphasis on judging the fight as to who won the overall fight like PRIDE used to do. There has to be some criteria about the fight as a whole. This whole 10 pt must system per round in MMA is crap, its a terrible way to gauge a fight.

I dont think so much that the judges were corrupt, I think the scoring system in the UFC sucks. Dana could learn a thing or 2 from PRIDE.

i’ve seen quite a few bad decisions but never once has it made me truly hate the guy who stole the win. this time tho, i hate bisping. the way he reacted to the decision was in total-disbelief at first and then all of a sudden he acts as though he dominated matt and he is the center of the universe. everyone says matt hamill is cocky? well just look at both of their post-fight reactions and tell me who the asshole is… bisping seems like even more of a dick than hughes (that’s hard to do in my book) the best part about all of it is how matt can come out to “born in the USA” and at the end of the night the english fans love him and boo bisping out of the cage!

[quote comment=“147272”] “Imagine if Bisbing went over and raised Hamill’s hand after the decision….. It’s been done before by other fighters….. Sadly, true sportsmanship is just not in him and he showed that.”

couldnt have said it better myself

Hamill got robbeed… and Bisbing showed his true colors. Bisbing isn’t worth all the marketing going into him if he’s gonna come off as a pompous ass.

Yeah, Im with you… but Im sure there still is a lot of ego wrapped up in him. He has to be REALLY bad if Tito wont even train with him anymore…
Not taking anything away from the guy, he got robbed… and fought his heart out.

No, Tito said that Matt Hamill couldn’t be in California to train with him because Hamill has a daughter in Utica, NY. So, it’s been hard for Hamill to be away from his daughter while he was training in California with Tito. Tito understood this. Hamill opened his own gym in Utica, just to be close with his daughter.

Off the topic

SHOGUN vs Forrest..I smell it brewing..that is the Main Event right.

Off the topic

Did you know He-man and She-ra were kissing cousins?

“Imagine if Bisbing went over and raised Hamill’s hand after the decision….. It’s been done before by other fighters….. Sadly, true sportsmanship is just not in him and he showed that.”

couldnt have said it better myself

Hamill got robbeed…

and Bisbing showed his true colors. Bisbing isn’t worth all the marketing going into him if he’s gonna come off as a pompous ass.

In PRIDE, after awarding Rampage a win against Ninja Rua, Rampaged knew that he should have lost, he went over to Ninja, told him that he really won the fight, and then continued to tell anyone who would listen (interviewers) that he didnt deserve the win and that Ninja really beat him. Thats class!

Bisping would never act like that.

See PRIDE fc: FISTS of FIRE, to c the fight I am talking about between Ninja and Rampage. Bisping should watch that fight and learn a thing or 2 about humility and class!

Rampage and Randy Couture, Best 2 spokesman of bthe sport of MMA

Hey UFC Mania,
Please let us know about the fighter salaries for UFC 75 as soon as u find out.

I’m always curious to c how little some of the good fighters make.

Way to go Matt!!! You won that fight!!!

100% class act. He knows he won the fight just like the rest of us. I’d like to see Bisping’s face after watching the fight himself. What an ass to say he is the true ultimate fighter champion. Go Matt!!! Nice shirt and I am proud to say that I too was born in the U.S.A!!!!!

Off the topic

SHOGUN vs Forrest..I smell it brewing..that is the Main Event right.

Chuck is always the main event.

I hate reading quotes from him, because even though they’re in print I still hear deaf guy voice in my head.

Just busted out laughing, at work. But i was thinking the exact same thing. Nothing against Hamill though, he looked awesome and won the fight.

Bisbing has a loss, Hamill still undefeated. And the real ultimate fighter is Hamill, glad we settled that.

No, Tito said that Matt Hamill couldn’t be in California to train with him because Hamill has a daughter in Utica, NY. So, it’s been hard for Hamill to be away from his daughter while he was training in California with Tito. Tito understood this. Hamill opened his own gym in Utica, just to be close with his daughter.

Well shit, thanks for the edjamication.
Hammill won thanks to his training partner… Danny Abadi.

WAR HAMMILL!

I was a huge fan of Matt when he was on the Ultimate Fighter. Probably because I have a hearing impaired child and Matt is an inspiration to him. We looked forward to the fight all week, and were so disappointed. BOO to Bisping and BOO to the judges. Matt, we are looking forward to seeing you fight again!!

Put Bisping’s a@@ in there with Wanderlei Silva for being such an arrogant, cocky piece of S$%T!

Dana,

Many are amazed that Hamill in his loss has garnered so much support. I am not surprised.

Here is the lesson – no matter how much shit is stacked against you, no matter how much you want to win, no matter how much you want to succeed, INTEGRITY COUNTS (contrast this with Tito’s, “if you are not cheating you are not trying hard enough.”)

Hamill maintained his integrity under fire. I have become a fan.

Dana, you have become a vagina; accepting all requests in trade for the mighty dollar.

Man up and change the scoring system. Man up and force checks and balances to ensure judges dont have scoring bias towards a specific discipline. Man up and clarify the scoring system; ie – is it heavy hands and ring control or is it stylish jabs and back-peddling that earn points. Is this ballet or is this MMA. Dude, you need to man up and ensure your fighters are stepping into an environment that doesnt rape their efforts to be the best fighters they can be. Make this clear to all. MMA is fair and just.

Matt, thanks for illustrating grace under fire. Thanks for showing heart and integrity. Thanks for showing us you can be a man and stand for something with class and dignity.

Dana, stop giving the mighty dollar the reach around and correct this garbage before it takes this sport.

Peace

I dont think so much that the judges were corrupt, I think the scoring system in the UFC sucks. Dana could learn a thing or 2 from PRIDE.

I could not have said it better myself.

Also the UFC pays the judges and regulates themselves in the UK because MMA is not regulated in the U.K. I think the UFC better get the British Boxing Commission involved before they go back.

I’m not suggesting any conspiracy. I just think the judges seem to have judged like a boxing match and not an MMA match.
 

Have a look at the Yahoo Sports article on this match

cool shirt.

I hate reading quotes from him, because even though they’re in print I still hear deaf guy voice in my head.

Dude me too, I hear “that mumbling” Love him though he is great!

If the Ufc does not straighten this stuff out, they will go down like boxing. Bisbeng: you got your tail kicked and to stad there and say: “I outboxed him” was al too telling, in other words, you got a gift. You looked real good tripping over yor feet and getting taken down at will only to be let up and pummeled again. Wonder how the “count” would match up with Houston Alexander?

Well he would be "Assasinated’ by The Assasin!

There have been several articles about the judging and the decision on mainstream sports sites like foxsports.com where the officials explained their reasoning for giving Bisping the decision. It probably won’t be enough to satisfy some of the people on here who think Dana went as far as rigging the judging to protect a fighter, but it does offer some valid explanation for why the two American judges gave the fight to Bisping and the Brit scored it for Hammill. It’s also why Dana always encourages the TUF fighters to finish their fights, because you nevr know how the judges will see things.

WAR HAMMILL!

Does WAR mean “White Aryan Resistance” or “Warrior”?
Or is it slang like “GO HAMMILL!”?

Ok, so Matt Hamill got screwed over by the judges’ decision. And all of a sudden he is everyone’s hero? I saw the fight, Bisping clearly lost at least 2 rounds, even though personally I would have given Hamill all three. I was probably as surprised as Bisping when his hand got raised. At the end of the day Bisping is a solid fighter, but very far from outstanding, and he won’t be able to deal with what the top tier light heavy-weight and middle-weight fighters have to offer. I really don’t see him going far. I don’t consider Hamill to be any better.

What is surprising to me is that how Hamill got so many fans all of a sudden? He got screwed? Cry me a river! He will definitely have another opportunity to prove himself. But it’s like everyone turned into Danny Abbadi overnight. Hey, can you make Matt a sandwich?

I agree. I was not much of a fan of either of these guys before the fight, and remain uninterested in either of there careers. The fight didnt go the way I thought it would, but c’mon people. It was almost as bad as the CroCop fight. How about we talk about the fights that were actually entertaining.

Imagine if Bisbing went over and raised Hamill’s hand after the decision…. Imagine if he actually said that he thought Hamill won this fight…. It’s been done before by other fighters….

Bisbing showed us his true colors… He isn’t worth all the marketing money that is being spent on him. The UFC would be better off if they spent it on some other Brit Fighter.

Dana,

Many are amazed that Hamill in his loss has garnered so much support. I am not surprised.

Here is the lesson – no matter how much shit is stacked against you, no matter how much you want to win, no matter how much you want to succeed, INTEGRITY COUNTS (contrast this with Tito’s, “if you are not cheating you are not trying hard enough.”)

Hamill maintained his integrity under fire. I have become a fan.

Dana, you have become a vagina; accepting all requests in trade for the mighty dollar.

Man up and change the scoring system. Man up and force checks and balances to ensure judges dont have scoring bias towards a specific discipline. Man up and clarify the scoring system; ie – is it heavy hands and ring control or is it stylish jabs and back-peddling that earn points. Is this ballet or is this MMA. Dude, you need to man up and ensure your fighters are stepping into an environment that doesnt rape their efforts to be the best fighters they can be. Make this clear to all. MMA is fair and just.

Matt, thanks for illustrating grace under fire. Thanks for showing heart and integrity. Thanks for showing us you can be a man and stand for something with class and dignity.

Dana, stop giving the mighty dollar the reach around and correct this garbage before it takes this sport.

Peace

I could not agree more.

In addition to his myspace message I just read this on his website. Class and sportmanship go a long way to build fan support and help distinguish fighters from other fighters at their skill level. Matt may not contend for the belt anytime soon (if ever) but he has gained a lot of fans and support, mine included. Bisping has done the polar opposite.

Official Statement from Matt Hamill

I would like to thank everyone for their unbelievable support. I fought my heart out in London and feel I should have won the fight. The outpouring of support from people all over the world has touched my heart. It validates my performance to myself and that means as much as a win to me. I think MMA is a great sport and I don’t believe in any kind of a fix. The two judges that scored the win for Bisping obviously need to re-evaluate the way they score a fight. You can’t win a fight when you run for three rounds. They need to study the criteria for scoring an MMA fight: effective striking, grappling, takedowns, aggression and control. Bisping did none of that in my opinion. The UFC has the best MMA in the world and I am proud to be a part of it. I will be fighting in the UFC for a long time. Thanks again to all my fans, especially to all the English fans who came up to me after the fight to tell me I was the winner. I will be back in the octagon very soon and promise to fight my heart out like I always have.

Matt “The Hammer” Hamill

Class. Nothing but class. Going into that fight I was a Bisping fan. Now, I can not wait to see Hamill fight again and couldn’t care less if I ever see Bisping fight again.

And the shirt = photochopped (and badly at that).

Yuep Me too :)

I just watched the fight again because maybe I missed something that the judges saw, but Hamill won that fight. The judges didn’t seem to count takedowns and almost every punch in that second round that Bisping threw was blocked and hit his arms. But Bisping will not ask for a rematch, he knows better.

Just busted out laughing, at work. But i was thinking the exact same thing. Nothing against Hamill though, he looked awesome and won the fight.

I wasnt goin gto quote this BUT I DID THE SAME THING and my co-workers were al like…huh?…. I just was like nothing… i choked on my coffee…

Love the shirt love the guy!
Hamill was not very popular on the internet the past year.
He was a huge undedog and people wanted to see his head get kicked in by Bisping.

The next time he fights in vegas that crowd is going to go crazy for him! How things change.

I love this post, you said it best.

Try thinking about how pumped up he must get by his entrance music – that causes me to laugh uncontrollably.

Dana,

Many are amazed that Hamill in his loss has garnered so much support. I am not surprised.

Here is the lesson – no matter how much shit is stacked against you, no matter how much you want to win, no matter how much you want to succeed, INTEGRITY COUNTS (contrast this with Tito’s, “if you are not cheating you are not trying hard enough.”)

Hamill maintained his integrity under fire. I have become a fan.

Dana, you have become a vagina; accepting all requests in trade for the mighty dollar.

Man up and change the scoring system. Man up and force checks and balances to ensure judges dont have scoring bias towards a specific discipline. Man up and clarify the scoring system; ie – is it heavy hands and ring control or is it stylish jabs and back-peddling that earn points. Is this ballet or is this MMA. Dude, you need to man up and ensure your fighters are stepping into an environment that doesnt rape their efforts to be the best fighters they can be. Make this clear to all. MMA is fair and just.

Matt, thanks for illustrating grace under fire. Thanks for showing heart and integrity. Thanks for showing us you can be a man and stand for something with class and dignity.

Dana, stop giving the mighty dollar the reach around and correct this garbage before it takes this sport.

Peace

You honestly believe that this is Dana White’s fault? The “Hate Dana” bandwagon is getting kinda packed, people are gonna have to start walking on their own soon.

“Imagine if Bisbing went over and raised Hamill’s hand after the decision….. It’s been done before by other fighters….. Sadly, true sportsmanship is just not in him and he showed that.”

That is so true. I would have respected Bisping much more if he would have acknowledged that Hamill had a good fight. He didn’t even go over to him and show respect after the fight was over. He just ran around the ring like a chicken with it’s head cut off. What an idiot.

As for other fighters doing what Sumo said. Remember Kalib Starnes in the Leben fight at 71. Starnes said that he thought Leben should have gotten the nod.

Just goes to show that the UFC put their faith in the wrong guy to promote the sport in the UK.

If it is … we did NOT do it.

It is definitely photoshopped. Just look at the wrinkles in the shirt not to mention the pixilated background of the lettering.

That is so true. I would have respected Bisping much more if he would have acknowledged that Hamill had a good fight. He didn’t even go over to him and show respect after the fight was over. He just ran around the ring like a chicken with it’s head cut off. What an idiot.

As for other fighters doing what Sumo said. Remember Kalib Starnes in the Leben fight at 71. Starnes said that he thought Leben should have gotten the nod.

Just goes to show that the UFC put their faith in the wrong guy to promote the sport in the UK.

I apologize TripleAinto. I quoted the wrong person. Great post.

Lets talk more about Houston Alexander…this guy is ripping up the LHW at 36 years old… lets see him agains some young competition or some higher class fighters… The guy has ufc fights and has a total of like 1 min 50 sec in the octagon… i wana hear more about houston

I hate reading quotes from him, because even though they’re in print I still hear deaf guy voice in my head.

ROFL, ME TOO

“AHH wahid do tank oooo fo aww yo suppawt fowwowwing UFSHEEE sheventyfive…”

LOL, I’m going to hell for my last comment!

Yes, yes you are Mike. haha..

Hamill vastly improved since his last fight. Bisping, well………..no.

In every other possible way besides the actual official win in the record, Hamill has won. From Saturday forward, Bisbing will increasingly see just how badly he lost. He has already lost a ton of fans due to his post-fight comments as even fans in the UK were booing his performance and attitude. It’s a downward spiral from here on for Bisbing as his true character came out on Saturday night and it wasn’t pretty.
Imagine if Bisbing went over and raised Hamill’s hand after the decision. Imagine if he actually said that he thought Hamill won this fight. It’s been done before by other fighters and think of how Bisbing would have been viewed if he did that. Sadly, true sportsmanship is just not in him and he showed that. Now he’ll face the repercussions while Hamill enjoys the rewards.
Cheers to you Hamill, a true man.

Excellent write up tripleainto. There were many in this thread.

I was rooting for Hamill in the fight. I really wanted to see him kick Bisping’s ass in from of the British crowd. And I got exactly what I asked for, except he didn’t finish him off. Because of this, he loses a fixed fight.

There is no way that I will believe that this fight was not fixed. First of all, the one British judge ruled the fight for Hamill, and the other two for Bisping. It would have looked too fishy to have the British judge pick Bisping and have his be the swing vote.

So Dana probably spoke with the OTHER two American judges and said that if this fight goes to a decision, it HAS to go to Bisping. Normally, Dana and the UFC has nothing to do with who judges, and how they get paid… But since the fight was in England, Dana and the UFC got to select the judges, AND they were responsible for paying the judges as well. I’d imagine it can’t be to hard to pay off a judge that you are already paying in the first place.

Plus, Joe Rogan has the biggest mouth and is one of the most opinionated people around. If he doesn’t believe something, he opens his mouth. I guarantee you that if this fight WAS fixed by the UFC, that Joe Rogan got paid, or threatened in some way shape of form. He would have said something about the awful decision, AND he would have asked Bisping the questions that he should have asked. Like “Michael, do you truely believe you won that fight, I don’t, I don’t know what those judges were watching.” Joe Rogan definitely has the balls and audacity to say such a thing. Just think back to when he was interveiwing Gray Maynard after the fight against Emerson where he knocked himself out. Joe Rogan was all over him and arguing with him.

How do you guys feel about the Rogan theory?

LOL, I’m going to hell for my last comment!

yes you are

In PRIDE, after awarding Rampage a win against Ninja Rua, Rampaged knew that he should have lost, he went over to Ninja, told him that he really won the fight, and then continued to tell anyone who would listen (interviewers) that he didnt deserve the win and that Ninja really beat him. Thats class!
Bisping would never act like that.
See PRIDE fc: FISTS of FIRE, to c the fight I am talking about between Ninja and Rampage. Bisping should watch that fight and learn a thing or 2 about humility and class!
Rampage and Randy Couture, Best 2 spokesman of bthe sport of MMA

Great point John. And seeing that Bisping and Rampage are such good ‘boys’ now, hopefully Rampage can teach him a thing or two about class and sportsmanship!

feed Bisping to Houston Alexander!

Ok, so Matt Hamill got screwed over by the judges’ decision. And all of a sudden he is everyone’s hero? I saw the fight, Bisping clearly lost at least 2 rounds, even though personally I would have given Hamill all three. I was probably as surprised as Bisping when his hand got raised. At the end of the day Bisping is a solid fighter, but very far from outstanding, and he won’t be able to deal with what the top tier light heavy-weight and middle-weight fighters have to offer. I really don’t see him going far. I don’t consider Hamill to be any better.

What is surprising to me is that how Hamill got so many fans all of a sudden? He got screwed? Cry me a river! He will definitely have another opportunity to prove himself. But it’s like everyone turned into Danny Abbadi overnight. Hey, can you make Matt a sandwich?

Ha ha your spot on. I never even was a Bisping fan, I saw a good fighter but by no means a great fighter, everyone was rooting for him until this fight. I definately agree with you about the tier thing in the LHW division, I’ve been thinking it for some time. Its like you have a split in talent forming, with a huge distance in talent levels, the future rising stars of the division like Forest, Evans, Bisping and it seems like now Hamill have a huge way to go before they reach that upper tier. Even Alexander would need to solidify his game with some ground work, so just in case someone lasts long enough with him for the fight to go to the ground he can deal with them. Alexander Vs Babalu would be interesting.

This may sound dumb, but is Bisping allowed to refuse that matchup? It took a long time before he even accepted the last match.

I’ve got unlimited amounts respect for Matt and what he’s achieved in his lifetime…

I’ve got unlimited amounts respect for Matt and what he’s achieved in his lifetime…

Make that unlimited amounts OF respect…

You honestly believe that this is Dana White’s fault? The “Hate Dana” bandwagon is getting kinda packed, people are gonna have to start walking on their own soon.

RearNakedSlam,

Perhaps I am being too hard on Dana, but he is a smart guy. My thoughts Are this:

1. Who hired the Judges?
2. Whose product are they officiating?
3. Is not Zuffa LLC owned 90% by a former commissioner of the Nevada Athletic Commission.

 Am I to believe that Dana could not hire better judges?

I can tell you this – I, for months, thought Bonner beat Griffin. I would not talk to you if you thought different. I have changed my position on this. Moreover, I currently have a hard time believing that Dana cant do more to calm this storm and I strongly believe he can be more proactive and making sure this does not happen again.

Until then he remains a manchild who has deceived me of all my hard earned PPV money.

In PRIDE, after awarding Rampage a win against Ninja Rua, Rampaged knew that he should have lost, he went over to Ninja, told him that he really won the fight, and then continued to tell anyone who would listen (interviewers) that he didnt deserve the win and that Ninja really beat him. Thats class!
Bisping would never act like that.
See PRIDE fc: FISTS of FIRE, to c the fight I am talking about between Ninja and Rampage. Bisping should watch that fight and learn a thing or 2 about humility and class!
Rampage and Randy Couture, Best 2 spokesman of bthe sport of MMA

I have never seen that fight before but it reminds me a lot of the Hamill vs bisping fight. Except for the fact that it was a much more exciting fight to watch. Rampage gets dominated in the first two rounds and then turns it on a bit to possibly take the third.

That is pretty awesome what he did though. That is why Rampage is a champion and Bisping will never sniff gold.

This may sound dumb, but is Bisping allowed to refuse that matchup? It took a long time before he even accepted the last match.

..F that bro..he has to fight him again..he has no choice if he wants to the next ultimate fighter..cuz now he is just the ultimate asshole..that got beat up..and thinks he won..he shouldn’t even fight UFC in any weight if he wants to refuse a rematch…don’t even give a ticket to even watch the UFC..his next fight better be with Matt Hamill..in Vegas..or NJ.

Personal opinion runs in all directions. Just like shit and it stinks. Bisping was so well-reheased on his claim to gloy on 09/08-07 that he was pushed to a most diabolical and self-and his camp to the utmost embarrassment by stating he had the fight pocketed and then to make things worse, using foul-language in the presence of his child on national TV,Spike Inc. without censor. As a spectator, the fast pace and techinal skills that kept becoming more and more obvious from Matt Hamil, it is really difficult to accept and swallow the disgusting result cards. White, Rogan, and Zuffa group in general has really pushed the envelop. I will boycott all PPV fights in the future until it is managed properly and without under the table politics. If fans just accept this outrageous outcome, White will step to other criminal behaviors. Boycott ths next PPV, it will send a message that all UFC fans want and desire an exemptilary response from what could be another dishonest gang of thugs like Don King,inc.

Dana White LOVES this s**t, it means big $$$$ to him, any smart business man in the entertainment industry knows controversy = $$$$$.

Dana White LOVES this s**t, it means big $$$$ to him, any smart business man in the entertainment industry knows controversy = $$$$$.

 Aint that truth….I cant believe Bisping honestly thinks he won that fight

Violent Mike: I also thought Joe Rogan was being silenced by Dana and the other top guys of the UFC. U made a great point, he was all over gray maynard. I haven’t seen to many other people in sports argue with a guy like that. I was very impressed by Rogan for standing his ground when interviewing maynard. I also think that it had to take some kind of threat from Dana to shut him up because that was unlike Joe.

Conspiracy theory is in effect.

You suck Bisbing!!!!!!

If you were to intentionally hire judges that had a bias for boxing and or Karate – would that constitute a fix?

hiring your own judges – is this a conflict of interest?

It appears that Matt Hamill proved that he can improved vastly by tenfold. Now, imagine how much improved would he be from now on? He’s still learning and improving by every fight. I’m looking forward to see how much he has grown as a more well-rounded fighter.

I’m a swede living in asia, and I have no preference on the fighters. I’ve also been a fan since the early first ufc’s and I do train a (little) bit.

When I watched the fight the first time, I was as stunned of the decision as anyone – I couldn’t believe it. However, today I read the judges reasons, rewatched the second round (in general, everyone seems to agree rd1 to hamill, rd3 to bisping).
I have to say I changed my opinion and I can agree with giving it to Bisping. Yes, he backpedals most of the round (and looks scared and weak, while Hamill advances fearlessly like the terminator), but Bispings counterpunches connect way more than Hamill’s (which ALL of them misses, look again!). Yes, Hamill gets two takedowns, neither is very impressive and he does nothing with them (except a few weak punches) while Bisping does have the fairly active guard AND gets up and stands up after both (which should nullify some of the “benefit” of the takedown in a scoring system).
Actually it is kinda relieving that this is not yet another bout that is decided by the wrestlers ability to just score a takedown and human-blanket the fighter from the top (which has ruined far more fights on the scoring card!). So in retrospect I have to say I am pleased with the two judges decision to give round 2 to Bisping. I can’t see anything besides octagon control and 2 crappy takedowns in favor of Hamill.
I think people’s perception of the bout has been clouded by the commentators and Bispings and Hamills body language, props to the judges for NOT falling for that or the takedowns. Unfortunately, too many UFC fights in the past has been decided on the takedown issue giving much advantage to purebred wrestlers. What crap the british judge was on scoring all three rounds for Hamill I have no clue…

This does not change the fact that Bisping’s ungracious comments and attitude put me off him (he was lucky to survive it) and that Hamill gained me as a new fan due to his heart, his fearlessness and graciousness in defeat (even though I agree he lost).

Actually, I might add that the 10-9 scoring system is probably what killed this bout. Hamill destroyed Bisping in rd1, but round 2 was VERY close with an edge to Bisping (still looking like shit) for inflicted damage and actually connecting with punches (all of Hamill’s miss really). Then Bisping barely won rd3 while looking crap again. Hamill looked calm, confident and fearless throughout – he just didn’t connect.

If the fight was judged as a whole, Hamill would be the winner. If it was a bit easier to get 10-8 rounds, it would probably be a draw. If draw rounds were possible, it would possibly have been a draw, unless 10-8 was easier and it should have been a Hamill victory again.

Unfortunately, the boring boxing scoring system is in effect and ruined the fight. Screw Bisping for being such an arrogant dick. I actually liked him before this and on TUF3, but now he’s lost all my respect though according TO THE RULES he won the fight. Hamill is the moral winner however.

Time to change the system…

It appears that Matt Hamill proved that he can improved vastly by tenfold. Now, imagine how much improved would he be from now on? He’s still learning and improving by every fight. I’m looking forward to see how much he has grown as a more well-rounded fighter.

He would be devastating if he developed a muay thai clinch and switched to south paw and developed right jab.

Matt Hamill is the man. Their should be a rematch in cinncinatti

feed Bisping to Houston Alexander!

O-YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Is it me or has Bisbing not inproved any since the U.F. He has a hard enough time beating Elvis. Everytime we see hamill he improves!!!!!

Ok, so Matt Hamill got screwed over by the judges’ decision. And all of a sudden he is everyone’s hero? I saw the fight, Bisping clearly lost at least 2 rounds, even though personally I would have given Hamill all three. I was probably as surprised as Bisping when his hand got raised. At the end of the day Bisping is a solid fighter, but very far from outstanding, and he won’t be able to deal with what the top tier light heavy-weight and middle-weight fighters have to offer. I really don’t see him going far. I don’t consider Hamill to be any better.

What is surprising to me is that how Hamill got so many fans all of a sudden? He got screwed? Cry me a river! He will definitely have another opportunity to prove himself. But it’s like everyone turned into Danny Abbadi overnight. Hey, can you make Matt a sandwich?

Thank god I’m not the only man left watching MMA. I swear most of you sound like you have …. well you fill it in.

I’m a swede living in asia, and I have no preference on the fighters. I’ve also been a fan since the early first ufc’s and I do train a (little) bit.
When I watched the fight the first time, I was as stunned of the decision as anyone – I couldn’t believe it. However, today I read the judges reasons, rewatched the second round (in general, everyone seems to agree rd1 to hamill, rd3 to bisping).
I have to say I changed my opinion and I can agree with giving it to Bisping. Yes, he backpedals most of the round (and looks scared and weak, while Hamill advances fearlessly like the terminator), but Bispings counterpunches connect way more than Hamill’s (which ALL of them misses, look again!). Yes, Hamill gets two takedowns, neither is very impressive and he does nothing with them (except a few weak punches) while Bisping does have the fairly active guard AND gets up and stands up after both (which should nullify some of the “benefit” of the takedown in a scoring system).
Actually it is kinda relieving that this is not yet another bout that is decided by the wrestlers ability to just score a takedown and human-blanket the fighter from the top (which has ruined far more fights on the scoring card!). So in retrospect I have to say I am pleased with the two judges decision to give round 2 to Bisping. I can’t see anything besides octagon control and 2 crappy takedowns in favor of Hamill.
I think people’s perception of the bout has been clouded by the commentators and Bispings and Hamills body language, props to the judges for NOT falling for that or the takedowns. Unfortunately, too many UFC fights in the past has been decided on the takedown issue giving much advantage to purebred wrestlers. What crap the british judge was on scoring all three rounds for Hamill I have no clue…
This does not change the fact that Bisping’s ungracious comments and attitude put me off him (he was lucky to survive it) and that Hamill gained me as a new fan due to his heart, his fearlessness and graciousness in defeat (even though I agree he lost).

Eric, watch the fight again and look at Bisping face when the fight ends,(he knows dam well he lost) and then look at the surprised look on his face when he gets the decision. This says it all , even Bisping knew he lost.

Thank god I’m not the only man left watching MMA. I swear most of you sound like you have …. well you fill it in.

Yeah, seriously. Things just turned kind of gabby. Everyone is acting like this is a freaking tragedy. Niether one of these guys will ever do anything in this division.

I’ve been fan of Hamill since TUF3. So I’m not exactly a “sudden” fan of Hamill.

As for the fight…we all know the scoring system in MMA today isn’t perfect at all. Whether you are pro-Hamill or pro-Bisping, Jeff Mullen does have a point about seeing the fight from different angles of the octagon. So unless I get to see the fight from different angles, I’m eagerly awaiting the rematch.

Eric, watch the fight again and look at Bisping face when the fight ends,(he knows dam well he lost) and then look at the surprised look on his face when he gets the decision. This says it all , even Bisping knew he lost.

I wouldn’t contest that. He fought badly, got outrun and dominated – of course he thought he lost. So did nearly everyone else. And morally I feel he did. However, that wasn’t the point I made. The point was if the judges scored the bout accurately according to the scoring system in effect – and I must say yes (even if it sucks) after rewatching the second round twice. Hamill stalked Bisping down, but hit him with nothing and didn’t capitalize on his takedowns, while Bisping got a dozen lame hits or so (none impressive). In this case, it was crap vs shit and shit won. I understand the judges.

On the whole, Bisping looked unimpressive and unless it was bad nerves or wrong attitude he can’t hang with the big boys and should go down to 185. Hamill’s got a wonderful in your face attitude fighting and is real tough but sadly lacks skill and finish. Maybe he’ll still learn, but I doubt he’ll ever be one of the top fighters. At least he learned some lessons in how to not look like a dick in defeat…

i never did like bisping that much, now i down right hate the guy, have someone woop this guy. it’a already bad enough the guy is deaf now you take away a victory from him, why don’t they dig hellen keller up from the grave and slap her too while there at it, england is a land full of bully’s no wonder everyone jumped on ships and sailed across the sea sick and hungry to get away from their rules and democracy

WELL I AM GLAD HAMILL WON THAT FIGHT AND NOT ONLY DID HE WIN THE FIGHT HE DID IT BAD ASS!!

I CANT WAIT TO SEE HAMILL FIGHT NEXT, I EXPECT HIM TO DEMOLISH HIS NEXT OPONENT!!

Yeah, seriously. Things just turned kind of gabby. Everyone is acting like this is a freaking tragedy. Niether one of these guys will ever do anything in this division.

And I have to disagree with that. I think Hamill has got the skill and potential (which he has shown he can build upon) to be a pretty damn good fighter. I think his wrestling will be his strong point, and I hope to really see that improve, as with everything else. I could also see him moving down to 185 if he wanted to, and doing really well in that division.

With Bisping, he focuses on striking, but the problem is he hardly causes any damage. Meaning he’s not even that good at it. I don’t see much potential in him either, I’m not saying there’s no way he couldn’t become a better fighter, but if he doesn’t improve an uber-incredibly-fantastic amount, I just don’t see him being around.

To be honest I thought Bisping won. It was a close fight nonetheless.

Matt Hamill’s trainer was on the radio the other day in Utica, NY to discuss about Hamill’s fight in London. He basically said that rematch isn’t going to happen anytime soon due to knee surgery, which is why Hamill kept the fight standing up. And after the fight, he went to the hotel to shower then went out for a dinner down the street, there were line of London fans coming up to him and saying, “I was Bisping fan, but now I’m yours. I know you won the fight.” Even Joe Rogan came up to him at the dinner and said the same thing, “I know you won the fight hand down.”

Violent Mike: I also thought Joe Rogan was being silenced by Dana and the other top guys of the UFC. U made a great point, he was all over gray maynard. I haven’t seen to many other people in sports argue with a guy like that. I was very impressed by Rogan for standing his ground when interviewing maynard. I also think that it had to take some kind of threat from Dana to shut him up because that was unlike Joe.
Conspiracy theory is in effect.

John, I’m happy to hear that you believe in this theory as well. I stongly believe! and it has me so upset. I mean, all the fighters know that they shouldn’t leave the fight up to the judges, but that was just plain wrong.

I would love to have a private, offline, discussion with Hamill to see how he REALLY feels about this…

Even Joe Rogan came up to him at the dinner and said the same thing, “I know you won the fight hand down.”

123Boogie, where did you hear this part about Joe Rogan? Because if that is indeed true, I think that that is the conclusive evidence to validate my theory above.

Let’s face it, Matt was a true underdog coming into this fight. Although I am a Hamill fan, I didn’t think he had what it took to beat Bisbing. I was proven wrong!!! Matt has come along way from his TUF days. Iam looking forward to his next fight.

i would like to see bisping fight houston alexander!!! that would be gangst!!! but i know the ofc wont put that on since they are tryin to build up bisping as a poster boy for them,i dont think he’d do well against the top tier guys though

123Boogie, where did you hear this part about Joe Rogan? Because if that is indeed true, I think that that is the conclusive evidence to validate my theory above.

Ah it was on the radio in Utica, NY the other day, where Duff (Hamill’s trainer) discussed UFC 75 with DJ there.

Excellent write up tripleainto. There were many in this thread.

I was rooting for Hamill in the fight. I really wanted to see him kick Bisping’s ass in from of the British crowd. And I got exactly what I asked for, except he didn’t finish him off. Because of this, he loses a fixed fight.

There is no way that I will believe that this fight was not fixed. First of all, the one British judge ruled the fight for Hamill, and the other two for Bisping. It would have looked too fishy to have the British judge pick Bisping and have his be the swing vote.

So Dana probably spoke with the OTHER two American judges and said that if this fight goes to a decision, it HAS to go to Bisping. Normally, Dana and the UFC has nothing to do with who judges, and how they get paid… But since the fight was in England, Dana and the UFC got to select the judges, AND they were responsible for paying the judges as well. I’d imagine it can’t be to hard to pay off a judge that you are already paying in the first place.

Plus, Joe Rogan has the biggest mouth and is one of the most opinionated people around. If he doesn’t believe something, he opens his mouth. I guarantee you that if this fight WAS fixed by the UFC, that Joe Rogan got paid, or threatened in some way shape of form. He would have said something about the awful decision, AND he would have asked Bisping the questions that he should have asked. Like “Michael, do you truely believe you won that fight, I don’t, I don’t know what those judges were watching.” Joe Rogan definitely has the balls and audacity to say such a thing. Just think back to when he was interveiwing Gray Maynard after the fight against Emerson where he knocked himself out. Joe Rogan was all over him and arguing with him.

How do you guys feel about the Rogan theory?

Hamill, you are ours winner. Bisping is a big loser a he is telling just shit.

I’m a casual UFC/TUF fan who had no bias towards either fighter. After watching the fight and hearing the decision, I couldn’t imagine how Bisping deserved that win. In my opinion, he lost the first round clearly and at best split the other two rounds (which were close). I’m glad I found this site as the comments here validate everything I was thinking Saturday night. If the consensus were that Bisping really won that fight, I’d have to re-evaluate my interest in the UFC because that would mean I had no idea what the hell I was watching.

I also have to say that I think the announcers did the fans an injustice by quietly accepting the decision and Bisping’s ridiculous comments. I know that the UFC probably tells them to avoid creating controversy about the judging because it undermines the sport, but c’mon: During the fight they obviously knew who was winning the whole time and for them to let all the post-fight BS pretty much slide was really soft. Cheers to those fans in the UK fans who showed more integrity than the shills behind the microphones.

Your a class act Matt and a true fighter..well deserved win over LOSER…o wait…the judges picked him..soorry i cant say his name anymore..oh and why on earth is Cecil People judging a UFC fight again?…he was the worst boxing judge EVER!…come on Dana!!!…why use all these old washed up boxing judges…ITS NOT BOXING!!!..the point configuration is soo much different…getting annoyed with this.

I dont like you, But YOU CLEARLY WON !…

i dont like you,
But YOU CLEARLY WON.

round 1 10-8 maybe 10-9 hamil r2 10-9 hamil r3 10-9 hamil. That was the worst decision I have ever seen in my life. Ever period in any sport. I can’t believe the frickin nerve of Bisping either. His comments after getting his ass handed to him were shamefull. I swear to god if I saw Bisping on the streets I would tell him what a punk ass he was regardless of the consequences.

People keep talking about the judges. Yes they are beep but I would bet my life that Zuffa made sure that the judges new that, if the fight went the distance, it better be a Bisping victory. UFC has really been gaining alot of momentum in the U.K. as of late and Zuffa has been talking about having more fights over there especially since they bought Pride.

For the past 8 months or so I have had suspicions that something was awry in the UFC. It seems like big money maker, crowd favorites have been getting some slightly early calls while newcomers can practicly kill each other. Also it seems like there are alot of disingenuous beefs as of late. Well my suspicions were partially confirmed for me last night when that call was made. Then they were 100 percent confirmed when Joe Rogan didn’t chime in with a WTF. I thought Rogan was going to call that beep out for sure and when he didn’t it felt like someone pulled on Dana White’s face revealing that he was really Don king with a mask on.

MMA is hands down my favorite sport, but if MMA was named Shirly she would be crying, lying in the shower with every orifice bleeding right now. They robbed a f@cking handicap person with as much heart as any great athelete could ever hope to have on worldwide television. That was a disgrace to the world of sports.

1. Hamill got HOSED!
2. Rampage Handled Business
3. ALEXANDER IS A SAVAGE!
4. DANA PLEASE PLEASE PUT THAT SMART MOUTH OF BISPINGS IN WITH HOUSTON ALEXANDER IM BEGGING!

Dana Grab that Bisbing character ship him over here and turn Hamlin loose on him Again. I can assure you he won’t win. If that is the only way he can get a decision , the limey ought to stay in the UK and keep out of the USA, we’ll see how long he will be able to support himself in toilet paper and toothpast.

Matt seemed like he didn’t have lust for hurting Bisping. That was why his punches or jabs were slow. If he had lust for hurting Mike, then he would won in first round. Even though, with his slow punches, I agree with lot of you that he was robbed of his victory! He seemed to win in all three rounds! I guess next time he needs to be relax in the next fight, it would help him to fight faster and better? Lol, Mike seems to run for life and tripped over himself. I won’t forget that.

I almost forgot something. I think he also need to breath freely in the next fight, not to hold up breathing.

The whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth. Dana White needs to step up to the plate and request a rematch. The Decision of those Judges was Appalling. They were Bias. When Hamill came out, and the song was playing (Born In The USA) They all booed him. I hate to say it, I was glad he could not hear those jerks. Lets have a rematch in the USA. The way the crowd acted, I truly believe there would of been a Riot if they ruled in Matts favor. Bispings needs to grow the hell up. He was jealous of Hamill at the very beginning when they were training for the Ultimate Fighter. For Goodness Sake everyone else had the advantage,they could all hear. If there is a rematch get Bisping down and(Ground & Pound) maybe then he will keep his mouth shut. The Rematch better be FREE Mr.Dana White, after all this bull-shit.

We all know that Matt won this fight. Every round except for one. They gave the win to Bisping because of the home crowd.

I TOTALLy agree with youu.Matt demonitated that fight all rounds and Bisping only won the fight cuz they were in london.Bring that fight back to the U.S. and lets see who really wins.My questions is where were these judges from?London by chance?????

Please remove that picture. Hamill has stated that it IS photoshopped and he would not wear such. You do a good fighter and a good man a dis-service by leaving that picture there.

I watched the match and would have to say hamill dominated round one and probably call it even rounds two and three. However hamill always controlled the octogon and pushed the action where bisping was very defensive after getting hurt in the first round. A great fight anyway, very entertaining and I believe hamill has a bright future ahead. Can’t wait for a re-match!

Probably already mentioned in the comments, but here’s the REAL picture of Matt Hamill (non-photoshopped)

http://www.knockoutfactory.com/ufc/Matt Hammer Hammill.jpg

IT IS A AMAZING THAT A MEN CAN STUMBLE 80% AND STILL WIN BISPING IS A DISGRACE TO FIGHTER WHO TRAIN DAY IN AND DAY OUT, HAMILL LOVE UR STYLE U GIVE WRESTLERS TURN MMA FIGHTER A GOOD NAME EVERYWHERE, KEEP IT UP.

Was that decision a crock or what? Bisping did nothing to win that fight,that was a totaly unfair decision. I feel the ufc’s reputation fell a few points that day. Hamill destroyed Bisping and anyone that saw the fight was shocked at seeing Bispind decared the winner,what a joke that was. Lets see Bisping fight a real fighter again and watch what happens. Awsome job Matt keep up the good work!!!