NO!!!

i wish they would just agree on sumthing,anything..im sure they both want and love one thing..fighting..i doubt that this dispute will ever be over..but i really think fedor is not ufc bound..the longer this thing takes, the less likely it will ever occur..mabuhay ang mga pinoy..hello sa nanay ko and tatay ko..unang comment ako..yehey! ! !

what the hell cmon i highly doubt this will ever happen this is gay as hell is the ufc stu[id just give him the contract he wants

the longer this thing takes, the less likely it will ever occur..mabuhay

I agree. The longer it is drawn out, I think the less likely Dana will be to compromise and Fedor knows he doesn’t need the UFC, much as we’d love to have him.

Kumusta ka? (..that’s the extent of my polite Tagalog-the only other words I know involve discipline or are curse words)

CRAP!!

UFC should sign Barrnet and Hunt insted.
Out of top 10 fighters in HW div 9 would be in UFC and Fedor would loose his number one status in a year or two .

This sucks big time. I’m really starting to have doubts on this as well.I’m going to wait for my girlfriend to get out of the shower to translate the Tagalog.

Who knows though, I don’t know what to believe anymore. We could hear this only to make a potential announcement even more incredible. White said that Liddell and Wandy would probably never happen and suddenly Wandy is in the league and it’s looking pretty good. See you next time on the Young and the Restless.

Dana thinks he is all great and powerful and will not comprise. Even to get one of the sports best attractions his mentallity is either my way or the highway. As for what sliwa said that fedor will lose his number one status that is highly unlikely. These fighters want to be the best and I believe will go after fedor where ever he is so it could back fire on Dana. Mirco wants a rematch with fedor before he retires and it would’nt surprise if he left the ufc to go after him. What do you guys think?

I have a feeling that Dana is just pullin are leg here. I think he wants it to just make the announcement that more exciting for us. And if this is true im going to cry.

From Sherdog, “Fedor doesn’t want to be compared to a nobody who is going to start fighting. He is already champion. That’s it.”

Fedor IS a nobody when it comes to the U.S. audience. Do they not realize that their champion is only a paper champion (even that’s in danger once PRIDE dissolves). They need to deflate their ego a little more and just sign, or else he’ll forever be known as “The greatest fighter who ate cans in Japan.” I almost certain that the UFC is letting them do Sambo, but they won’t let them move on to other MMA promo’s.

Fedor is an idiot.

I’m biased because I am a UFC fan, but the UFC is only going to get BIGGER.

Dana is advertising so well and they are starting to get top talent in the world, the UFC is on the edge of exploding and becoming SUPER mainstream. So Fedor is no longer in a powerful position to negotiate. Why?

There are MMA fans who have been around for 2 years or more, they will know how great Fedor is. The rest of the crowd, which because this is becoming larger and larger by the day, will have NO IDEA who Fedor is.

That’s right, I’m saying 90% of people will not know who he is in a year, other than announcers mentioning, “Fedor is an excellent heavyweight that the UFC almost signed.” All the fans will be new. And once the UFC is huge globally (again, this isn’t that far away). The UFC heavyweight champion will be considered the BEST heavyweight in the world. NOT Fedor. This will all be within a year or two. By that time Fedor will not be on friendly terms with Dana and the UFC will be even more harsh in their contract terms than they are now.

Fedor thinks he is in the power position right now, but when 90% of the best heavyweights around are fighting in the UFC this is going to look like a big mistake.

Of course I’m talking about a year or two down the road, but this is a huge mistake if they can’t agree on something. Especially for Fedor.

At this point, I’m beginning not to care where Fedor goes. I love the guy as much as everybody for his past performances in Pride, but if he doesn’t want to fight in the premier MMA league it’s going to be his standing that falters in the rankings, not the UFC’s.

If he goes to K1, we’ll still get to see him fight, but his fights wont be against the “best” and I think his reputation will suffer as a result.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=632602&page=2

Read from post #33 and on. I have no idea if this is true but apparently he has called news before it happened before, so we’ll see. It would make sense though. Dana comes out of the meeting saying it didn’t go well. At first, from what I have gathered, the Russians say it went great, then changed their position and said they have a lot to work on. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if this Dave141414 guy is right and they are just lying to everyone to keep it a surprise to announce at UFC 75. We will know in six days.

I don’t know if I can jump on Dana over this one. Some of the sticking points I’ve heard about sound legit. UFC apparently doesn’t want guaranteed money (i.e. would they want to be paying Babalu for fights still left on his contract even after he’s been cut? Or career-ending injury, etc). Also it’s been reported around that Fedor wants to bring in a bunch of his teammates. They should earn their spots like everyone else!

It’s easy to say “Just give him whatever he wants already!” but the UFC has worked very hard to get where they are through smart decisions (some missteps along the way to be sure), and giving one guy EVERYTHING will create a bad precedence. If Fedor comes into UFC and loses to someone (it could happen), what’s Dana going to have to give up the next time that person’s contract comes up?

I like Sliwa’s idea of using that money to get every other major heavy weight and make Fedor come back to Dana due to lack of competition.

One fighter, even the biggest fighter out there, is not going to make or break the division.

I don’t think we know 100% of the story from both sides on this one but they need to get this deal done. Randy deserves to fight this guy now while he is at his best.

I think if the deal doesn’t go through it is all Fedor’s doing. NOBODY eles seems to have a problem signing with the UFC, only Fedor thinks he can go to a new job and tell them how things are going to be, with THEIR OWN COMPANY. Companies have policies for good reason. Dana treats the superstars like they are Gods. Fedor is just being unrealistic in his DEMANDS. Fedor should want to come to the UFC at all costs, to fight the best in the world and win or lose, leave a true legace. Yet, it appears that he is content to live off past glory and continue to fight lesser rather than greater opponents each fight. A true fighter should want to challenge himself with better fighters each time. It’s not just Sambo, he wants to fight in other organizations. Just like fighters all go by the same rules in a fight, they have to go by the same rules of the organization, Fedor is not exempt from these rules. You aren’t concidered the winner until you finish the race and Fedor is only halfway through it. He still has to get through the other half of the best HW’s in the world (the ones I believe are well rounded enough to beat him) and I think he knows it.

give him what he wants hes the man off mma and he should be in the biggest and best organization and getting paid wutever he wants you kno the ufc has the money dana probably makes more than fedor is asking for and he isnt the one in the ring making all the money

There are reports that he was offered a contract worth 2 million. Fedor wants to fight in Russian Sambo competitions and also have contracts given to other red team members and these are the main issues in conflict. I do not see Fedor giving up his sambo tournaments and I can’t see the ufc putting this much money down and risk it all on a competition that it is not promoting. I wonder what Fedor’s people would do if they were given a hard deadline. that is the way these contractual deadlocks get ironed out.

give him what he wants hes the man off mma and he should be in the biggest and best organization and getting paid wutever he wants you kno the ufc has the money dana probably makes more than fedor is asking for and he isnt the one in the ring making all the money

It’s not about the money. Keep up with us a little bit. It is pretty much Fedor and his manager want to take control part of the UFC by bringing it to Russia and telling them to sign all of their fighters.

He will never be in U.F.C. there is too much of a chance that he will get his ass kicked. Yeah good fighter but that is what everyone said about Mirko "Cro Cop too. Look what happened to him, beat by his own special leg kick. KNOCKED THE FU*K OUT. That is my prediction on this whole mess!!

I agree w/ Steve. Honestly, that’s the only scenario that makes the most sense.

If this report is true, and both positions have been accurately portrayed, the UFC is completely justified in their stance. Fighters are investments for the organization, and no smart leadership group would ever risk allowing such an investment to compete elsewhere. The risks are too great (i.e injury). It doesn’t matter how great Fedor is, his camp is asking too much. Besides, considering Fedor’s pedigree, the UFC would be cracy not to demand he only fights in the UFC. If he’s truly the best that is…

The UFC will continue to grow, regardless of whether they sign Fedor. It’s truly in Fedor’s best interest to sign with the company. His age is slowly becoming a concern (please avoid Randy Couture comparisons) – he should cash in while he can. He can fight in his Sambo competitions when he’s done in the UFC.

I honestly think they are going to sign him live during UFC 75 and then annouce a card with Coture vs Fedor and Chuck Vs Wanderli for December/January.

The UFC should first set up a one-fight contract with Fedor to fight Randy. That way, Fedor can get a taste of the UFC, and he may like it more than he thought. If Fedor wins, he will be champion and the negotiations may change. If he loses, then he won’t be the #1 heavyweight, so the UFC won’t care about his contract anymore.

They may have tried to negotiate this already, but if they didn’t, they should. Its a smaller jump than a multiple fight contract, but it would be a huge step nonetheless.

I think if the deal doesn’t go through it is all Fedor’s doing. NOBODY eles seems to have a problem signing with the UFC, only Fedor thinks he can go to a new job and tell them how things are going to be, with THEIR OWN COMPANY. Companies have policies for good reason. Dana treats the superstars like they are Gods. Fedor is just being unrealistic in his DEMANDS. Fedor should want to come to the UFC at all costs, to fight the best in the world and win or lose, leave a true legace. Yet, it appears that he is content to live off past glory and continue to fight lesser rather than greater opponents each fight. A true fighter should want to challenge himself with better fighters each time. It’s not just Sambo, he wants to fight in other organizations. Just like fighters all go by the same rules in a fight, they have to go by the same rules of the organization, Fedor is not exempt from these rules. You aren’t concidered the winner until you finish the race and Fedor is only halfway through it. He still has to get through the other half of the best HW’s in the world (the ones I believe are well rounded enough to beat him) and I think he knows it.

I so so so Agree with this post.

i don’t know maybe dana’s not giving enough cash or they don’t have enough time cuz he’s fighting in other mma organizations around the world or fedor’s managers were just greedy bastards wanting more than dana could offer and you don’t just get money from the contract and make more money from bonuses and sponsoring. dana probaly should give em a litte extra money from and they there they’ll automatically sign in, i hope they come back and renegotiate again if not for a while, the ufc may never have fedor in and that SUCKS!! if this happen, then SCREW HIS JERK ASS MANAGERS, THEY CAN KISS AND SUCK ALL THE UFC FANS ASS!!

I don’t think he’ll ever compete in the ufc. Fedor should start up FFC, Fedor Fighing Championship lol.

He can sign Overeem, Hunt, Barnett, Gomi, Ninja Rua, Randleman (ha), Zelg Galesic, AA (1 fight left on UFC contract). Frank Shamrock, Dennis Kang and others just to get it started. Of course I’m kidding and I realise that many of them would have no one to fight.

I understand why Fedor doesn’t want to sign, fair enough really I think.

You only fight in the UFC, you get paid this amount to sign, this amount to show and you will get a direct title shot. Simple as that, nuff said.

Bringing guys over from Russia, fighting in Russia, taking part in Sambo competitions, thats all ridiculous.

Soon I want Dana to announce a final date which signifies the date that all negotiations with Fedor will close. This will 1. put pressure on his management team and 2. get us (the fans) off this rollercoaster ride) at least we will know once and for all wether he is coming.

He’ll never go down as the greatest because he hasn’t fought all the top heavyweights in the world. Getting tired of all his team’s drama. 2 mil a fight and things didn’t go well? C’mon. You can fight cans in Siberia for the rest of your career as far as I’m concerned.

Fedor is great,no doubt about that.But holyshit how much does he think he’s worth.Hell Couture and Liddell fight for around $250,000 a fight and they’re right up there with him.If i were Dana White i’d give him one last offer,if he doesn’t take it, ah well see ya later.

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Im still gonna stick to my prediction that he will be announced in London, on saturday! I dont know y, I just have the feeling! We will c if Im right come saturday.

there not going to announce it at 75. give it up.
he wants to go dance sambo for rice grains in russia.
he’s sceeerrreeed!

Fedor is overrated just like Cro Cop was. MMA has a long history if building up fighters to seem indomitable monsters only to later realize that they were flawed and beatable. For example, Mark Kerr and Big Nog were once considered unbeatable. Fedor was dominated by Hunt until the final minute. He won and that is all that matters but it showed Fedor is can and will be beaten.

I like Sliwa’s idea of using that money to get every other major heavy weight and make Fedor come back to Dana due to lack of competition.

Since when has Fedor cared about competition (at least in the past 2 years) Wagner ( a total can), a washed up Coleman and picking on the little MW ( Lindland).

He can sign Overeem, Hunt, Barnett, Gomi, Ninja Rua, Randleman (ha), Zelg Galesic, AA (1 fight left on UFC contract). Frank Shamrock, Dennis Kang and others just to get it started. Of course I’m kidding and I realise that many of them would have no one to fight.

They could all fight each other , weight classes aren’t a problem with Fedor. Seriously though ,I know I’m being hard on Fedor, but if he doesn’t sign, then he is robbing us fans of the best fights to ever happen in MMA.

this is the same crap he pulled when he couldnt get the silva -liddell fight to happen. ufc officials need to get their heads out of their asses when their dealing with fighters like sokoudjou or fedor or some of the best fights in the world will never happen. honestly when will the next major pride vs ufc fight happen? ufc 71 seems like soo long ago.

Why can’t he just be like Jeff Monson and just come in for a title shot out of the blue? No contract.

If this report is true, and both positions have been accurately portrayed, the UFC is completely justified in their stance. Fighters are investments for the organization, and no smart leadership group would ever risk allowing such an investment to compete elsewhere. The risks are too great (i.e injury). It doesn’t matter how great Fedor is, his camp is asking too much. Besides, considering Fedor’s pedigree, the UFC would be cracy not to demand he only fights in the UFC. If he’s truly the best that is…

I agree, its not only a concern about injury though, think about this, the UFC is going to spend millions in advertising to make this guy a star in the U.S. and a star to all UFC fans around the world. He will be on posters, on the Tonight show, you name it. The UFC plans on making this guy famous all over the world (not just in russia and japan). It would be stupid for the UFC to then allow Fedor to fight in other competing organizations, where these organizations can benefit from the advertising that the UFC paid for. That would be a conflict of interest if Fedor was competing elsewhere while under contract with the UFC.

I personally don’t see the problem with Fedor competing in a yearly sambo tournament in russia. But as for other competing MMA organizations? get real Fedor, and sign the contract. If he doesn’t end up in the UFC where the best fighters are, then he is nothing. If that happens, I will no longer be a fan of his.

Dana White has got to be the dumbest business man on earth because Fedor does not need the UFC the UFC needs Fedor.

fedor, great as he is.. he will have his hands full if he fights couture in a cage.. he will be beaten and he knows that, thats why he declined UFCs offer.. Kelan kaya magkakaroon ng true blooded pinoy sa ufc?

They are announcing Fedor’s signing at UFC 75.

I don’t know that much about contact negotiations, but for the Red Devil team to travel all the way to the US only to have “much further to go” seems odd.

To me, the only reason for flying over would be to SIGN the contract and settle final details. If they still had huge disagreements, why fly over at all?

Also, the fact that Dana says “I usually don’t talk to the public…” seems odd.

We can speculate all we want but in reality none of us have the facts. Dana is a liar… we all know that. None of us really know what the problems are. I’m sure that Dana and camp Fedor are only giving us tidbits of info reguarding the negotiations. If both sides act reasonably than I don’t see a problem getting this deal done.

It is totally unreasonable for Dana to try and run a fighters personal life. I can understand and agree with Dana about not wanting Fedor to compete in other organizations events. I think the only reason Fedor would want to deal with other organizations is if Dana refuses to give members of his Red Devil fight team opportunities. I have seen some of the young Red Devil fighters compete, and they aren’t that bad. Put it to you this way:

Dana got an English star in Bisping, then Dana held a show in London, giving all the young British fighters a chance to appear on the prelims…. Y not do that with Fedor. The young british fighters Dana is giving a chance to are prolly on the same level as the young Devil fighters.

So if Dana would just sign Fedor, he can have an event in Russia (where MMA events have been held already), throw the young red devil fighters in the prelims, if they do well they can stay in the UFC if not who cares.

I really believe that the only reason Fedor would have to step outside of the UFC, is to get some of his young fighters opportunities. If Dana were to give Fedor’s fighters an opportunity then there is no reason for Fedor to wanna step outside the UFC

As fans, we can’t fault Fedor for trying to use his negotiating powers to give his countrymen opportunities in MMA. As a matter of fact, I think its Noble for Fedor trying to put his country on the map. I cant be mad at him for that.

Dana needs to bend a lil, hey throw his young fighters on TUF. know they prolly cant speak english but so what? Hamil couldnt hear, and could barely talk, and the UFC accomodated him with a translater (sign language). Throw 2 red devils on each season of TUF, who knows maybe they can make some noise, if not, Im sure they wont be any worse competitors than say a Jason Thatcher.

I believe that if the money isn’t an issue, than this deal will get done! Dana and Fedor both have a lot to gain by getting this deal done, and I my be an optimist, but I still believe this is gonna get done sooner than later. Randy isn’t gettin any younger, and Dana knows Fedor vs. Couture will provide a payday like no other event has produced. Money Talks, and there is too much money to b made on both sides to leave this deal on the table.

Have no Fear, we will c Fedor in an Octagon…. I know It!

don’t worry they will sign him, they will annouce it in anaheim

F**K Fedor, great fighter and all but the UFC should stick to there guns and if he doesn’t like the conditions let him walk, they don’t need him. Obviously he would be a huge boost to the heavy weight division, they would get along just fine with out him, Dana’s like the Donald trump of the MMA world.

I agree Fuck Fedor. He dont want to fight in the UFC then he aint the best in the world. Where else he gonna fight? BoDog? K1 Heros? Elite XC? CMON!

Dana White has got to be the dumbest business man on earth because Fedor does not need the UFC the UFC needs Fedor.

No.

I don’t know that much about contact negotiations, but for the Red Devil team to travel all the way to the US only to have “much further to go” seems odd.
To me, the only reason for flying over would be to SIGN the contract and settle final details. If they still had huge disagreements, why fly over at all?
Also, the fact that Dana says “I usually don’t talk to the public…” seems odd.

Soups, you have some good points there.

If Dana would stop acting so Don Kingish then fedor would already be signed… Its people like fedor who will probably open the door to bigger payday’s which is a big problem in the UFC right now..

Dana White has got to be the dumbest business man on earth because Fedor does not need the UFC the UFC needs Fedor.

Like Gord said: No.

You’ve got it backwards my friend. (1) The majority of American MMA fans — where the money is right now — do not know Fedor. Many of my friends who enjoy MMA only watch the UFC cards. Call them stupid, not real MMA fans or whatever, but that’s reality. In fact, a few of my friends are pissed because “some guy” named Henderson is coming over and getting a title shot right away…

The UFC and MMA are doing just fine in America without Fedor.

(2) Look at any top ten list and one of the criteria are “fighting top talent.” If Fedor joins a smaller org, he will most likely not be fighting top talent. Some argue that he hasn’t fought top talent for some time. If Fedor wants to remain the best — and I believe he does — then he NEEDS the UFC, because the UFC has the top talent.

JUST MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!!

Right now I think that Couture, Arlovski, Liddell, Minotauro, and Cro Cop are the only guys in the UFC who can beat him on a regular basis. Stylistically, they have the best chance for these reasons:

Couture: Can outwrestle, outcondition, or outstrategize Fedor.

Arlovski: Can outstrike and overwhelm him with size advantageand quickness.

Liddell: Can outstrike Fedor- also great takedown defense. Great counterstriking and could eventually catch Fedor.

Minotauro: Better Jiu-Jitsu than Fedor.

Cro-Cop: Striking advantage.

You’ve got it backwards my friend. (1) The majority of American MMA fans — where the money is right now — do not know Fedor. Many of my friends who enjoy MMA only watch the UFC cards. Call them stupid, not real MMA fans or whatever, but that’s reality. In fact, a few of my friends are pissed because “some guy” named Henderson is coming over and getting a title shot right away…
The UFC and MMA are doing just fine in America without Fedor.
(2) Look at any top ten list and one of the criteria are “fighting top talent.” If Fedor joins a smaller org, he will most likely not be fighting top talent. Some argue that he hasn’t fought top talent for some time. If Fedor wants to remain the best — and I believe he does — then he NEEDS the UFC, because the UFC has the top talent.

Man dude you make great points theres no doubt about that..I just feel like Dana is screwin people over left and right especially in regards to money…Dana’s done alot for mma no doubt but it seems little by little his ego making him out to be more like a boxing promoter instead of an mma entreprenuer..

Couture: Can outwrestle, outcondition, or outstrategize Fedor.
Arlovski: Can outstrike and overwhelm him with size advantageand quickness.
Liddell: Can outstrike Fedor- also great takedown defense. Great counterstriking and could eventually catch Fedor.

sorry bro.. i can tell you dont know who fedor is whatsoever..

They need to do whatever it takes to get this guy over here

I HATE TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD BUT FEDOR IS SCARED OF RANDY.

Right now I think that Couture, Arlovski, Liddell, Minotauro, and Cro Cop are the only guys in the UFC who can beat him on a regular basis. Stylistically, they have the best chance for these reasons:

Couture: Can outwrestle, outcondition, or outstrategize Fedor.

Arlovski: Can outstrike and overwhelm him with size advantageand quickness.

Liddell: Can outstrike Fedor- also great takedown defense. Great counterstriking and could eventually catch Fedor.

Minotauro: Better Jiu-Jitsu than Fedor.

Cro-Cop: Striking advantage.

Dude, I don’t think you know who Fedor is, though some of the fighters you mention do have a chance, you make it sound as if they have a good one. Heres my take:

Couture advantage would be in body positioning, I doubt Fedor will be able to get on top of Randy, he did with Lindland, but Randy is a different story. Also, Randy is the crisper boxer but Fedor has knockout power and ferocity. Couture’s conditioning is not better, its about even. Also, Fedor is known for his fight strategies just like Couture, both are very smart fighters (advantage: none). All in All Couture has the best tools to beat Fedor at this point. This will be a great fight if it happens, I give Fedor the advantage, but Im not counting Couture out.

Minitauro: hes lost 3 times to Fedor already!

Arlovski: Good striker, excellent ground game. He has a shot, but not a good one. I doubt he can knock Fedor out (Fedor has a sick chin). Also, Fedor has the best submission defense in the game. Arlovski is good enough to take it the distance, but I think he would loose the decision.

Liddel: Heh, different weight class, please Liddel would get destroyed.

Cro Cop: His only chance is to knock Fedor out, hes probably the only one who can, but I suspect a second fight with Fedor will go just like the first one. Fedor will take Cro-Cop down and dominate.

whites afraid he’ll knock out every hvy weight in ufc especially captain ol timer

randy got lucky twice w/ tim and gabe he wont do as well against fedor

“If Dana would stop acting so Don Kingish then fedor would already be signed… Its people like fedor who will probably open the door to bigger payday’s which is a big problem in the UFC right now.. "

Very Good point. But I must say Fedor will not “probably” open the door to bigger payday’s he “will” open the door for bigger payday’s.

“Couture: Can outwrestle, outcondition, or outstrategize Fedor.
Arlovski: Can outstrike and overwhelm him with size advantageand quickness.
Liddell: Can outstrike Fedor- also great takedown defense. Great counterstriking and could eventually catch Fedor.
Minotauro: Better Jiu-Jitsu than Fedor.
Cro-Cop: Striking advantage.”

Has to be the funniest thing I’ve read so far to date on this forum. This for sure is just an “opinion” and not fact because Fedor has already beaten a couple of this guys.

Randy has the very best chance but I don’t think it would happen. For Fedor to loose anytime soon in the UFC it would take some special matchups from Dana. I think is it was

Cro-Cop and Couture VS Fedor then they have a great chance.
or Liddel and Minotauro VS Fedor then they as a team could take him out…. Maybe

Fedor is scared of Randy? I wasn’t even going to throw my two cents in on this one because there’s already a thousand posts but come on… Randy is a great under dog fighter, but that’s all. I love Randy Couture, but look at the guy’s record; he’s inconsistant. Granted, he’s a freak of nature, but he’s not a guy who I would go as far as to say that Fedor Emelianenko fears… That’s crazy.

For the folks that think that Fedor is an idiot for not taking the deal I gotta say that it can’t be Fedor snubbing his nose up to Dana’s deal. Supposedly the tune of the contract is four fights for 2 sweet mil a pop. You’d be freakin’ INSANE to pass up that kind of loot, not to mention that you would be fighting on the worlds biggest stage IE the UFC octagon. From all the rumor blogs I’ve read in the last three months it seems that this is a matter of his manager getting Don King syndrome. Freaking lose that guy. This Finklestein guy seems like a real shady old cold war style type of goon who is riding on a great fighter’s coat tails for the money. This Deuche is trying to get the other fighters he’s promoting into the UFC and allow Fedor to fight in Russia (Presumably in his manager’s organization) God why couldn’t that guys plane go down in the atlantic on their way back to Russia… Yea yea that’s a bit extreme but CRANKY I want to see Couture vs Fedor SO FREAKIN BAD: It’s a true MMA fans wet dream!

The shame is on Fedor’s management. Dana’s “these crazy Russians” comments can’t be helping either. Time is ticking away and soon December is going to be here, the time when the big show would most likely have occured. Hell if Cro Cop knocks out Kongo I’d even like to see him and Fedor go at it one more again. Muahahahaha….

I HATE TO SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD BUT FEDOR IS SCARED OF RANDY

hey do you get your facts from Griffins new MMa for idiots book? just curious

Hmmmm… On second thought I think I like Randy Couture too much to see Couture vs Fedor. Have you seen the fights Fedor had with Big Nog, Heath Herry, and T. Kosaka? He freakin’ turned those guys into hamburger… Maybe this is why Dana is throwing a monkey wrench into the Fedor deal by not warming up to it… Couture has become an MMA icon whom everyone wants to see retire on top. I think it would be a great fight, but ultimately I see Randy hurting Fedor and forcing him into cornered animal mode where he stops fishing for submissions and starts destroying his opponent’s face from his guard. I personally wouldn’t want to see this happen and I think this may be a factor in us NEVER actually seeing this particular mega fight. Damn shame.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=632602&page=2

Read from post #33 and on. I have no idea if this is true but apparently he has called news before it happened before, so we’ll see. It would make sense though. Dana comes out of the meeting saying it didn’t go well. At first, from what I have gathered, the Russians say it went great, then changed their position and said they have a lot to work on. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if this Dave141414 guy is right and they are just lying to everyone to keep it a surprise to announce at UFC 75. We will know in six days.

I hope so.

Well, I hope this is all smoke and mirrors to hide the fact that they actually did come to agreement!

As for the blame game, is it really nescessary to know why this didn’t happen. But for those of us that or bored and have nothing better to do with our time it is fun to try to figure out!

Fedor wants to have a contract and fight in Russian MMA events for his country. If this was true I dont see it stopping the signing he must want more than just Russian events.
I can understand the UFC wants exclusivity but I also think they would understand Russian Sambo events there must be more to it.

Fedor want to bring in some of his Teammates doesn’t seem like a big enough issue to prevent a signing either.

Fedor’s camp says this is the most lucrative offer but say the issue lies with exculusivity. And something to do with Title fights. I didn’t really understand this part reading the arcticle on Sherdog.

Either way something has to change!

I hope and pray this is smoke and mirrors. These points dont seem this hard to negotiate!

Hmmmm… On second thought I think I like Randy Couture too much to see Couture vs Fedor. Have you seen the fights Fedor had with Big Nog, Heath Herry, and T. Kosaka? He freakin’ turned those guys into hamburger… Maybe this is why Dana is throwing a monkey wrench into the Fedor deal by not warming up to it… Couture has become an MMA icon whom everyone wants to see retire on top. I think it would be a great fight, but ultimately I see Randy hurting Fedor and forcing him into cornered animal mode where he stops fishing for submissions and starts destroying his opponent’s face from his guard. I personally wouldn’t want to see this happen and I think this may be a factor in us NEVER actually seeing this particular mega fight. Damn shame.

Dana isn’t the one throwing a monkey wrench , Fedor is. If anything Dana would be bending the rules a bit to get Fedor to sign. Fedor is being rediculous with all his stipulations.

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=632602&page=2

Read from post #33 and on. I have no idea if this is true but apparently he has called news before it happened before, so we’ll see. It would make sense though. Dana comes out of the meeting saying it didn’t go well. At first, from what I have gathered, the Russians say it went great, then changed their position and said they have a lot to work on. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if this Dave141414 guy is right and they are just lying to everyone to keep it a surprise to announce at UFC 75. We will know in six days.

Yeah, I looked into this, this guy does have a source, he later goes on to say how he also proved the AA and Werdum fight before it happened, he even sites his previous post, I checked it out. It’s legit. This guy accuratly predicted the AA/Werdum fight before it happened, lets hope his source is good for this one to!!! Guys, I think we got IT!!!!!

randy got lucky twice w/ tim and gabe he wont do as well against fedor

 
randy got lucky against tim???? he completely dominated the whole fight. he obviously couldnt do that against Fedor, but im sure he could use things such as the cage and dirty boxing to grind out a decision…of course its hard to bet against fedor

randy got lucky against tim???? he completely dominated the whole fight. he obviously couldnt do that against Fedor, but im sure he could use things such as the cage and dirty boxing to grind out a decision…of course its hard to bet against fedor

yeah lucky real lucky against sylvia tim took him lightly and it bit him in the A$$ but fedor will send chuck straight to retiremenr(home)

Although I want to see Fedor get signed, it will be horrible for other fighters such as Arlovski and Sylvia. The Heavyweight division will become so stacked that many deserving fighters will not get the chance to fight for the Heavyweight title. With all the fighters from Pride coming to the UFC, it will be a lot more difficult for the fighters who worked their way up to get a title shot, but I guess that’s just business.

yeah lucky real lucky against sylvia tim took him lightly and it bit him in the A$$ but fedor will send chuck straight to retiremenr(home)

 well u were ovbiously watching a completely different fight than i was, and also i think chuck may not want to fight fedor just yet….

Fedor is a poser, the toughest guys he’s fought in the last 2 years was Lindland.. I really believe Randy, Gonzaga, Vera, Sylvia, Crocop and even nog all have great chances of beating him and he knows this..

Thats why he’s duckin sylvia, heck randy called him straight out and fedor hasnt even comented on it!

Randy vs Fedor would = the biggest fight up to date and probly wouldnt be topped for years to come. Quit bein a gyne fedor, come get some!

Fedor hasnt been up against many tough opponents, and has been close to losses on different occasions, plus if he was to fight Randy, dont you think Randy would have big strong sambo guys in training with him. And I doubt Fedor would have a guy like Randy in with him. Long short of it is, Fedor wouldnt make it past Randy, why would ufc waste money on a guy to come in and be humiliated, doesnt make sence

Right now I think that Couture, Arlovski, Liddell, Minotauro, and Cro Cop are the only guys in the UFC who can beat him on a regular basis. Stylistically, they have the best chance for these reasons:

Couture: Can outwrestle, outcondition, or outstrategize Fedor.

Arlovski: Can outstrike and overwhelm him with size advantageand quickness.

Liddell: Can outstrike Fedor- also great takedown defense. Great counterstriking and could eventually catch Fedor.

Minotauro: Better Jiu-Jitsu than Fedor.

Cro-Cop: Striking advantage.

R u outta your mind?

Arlovski is a timid pussy cat, who Fedor would just beat on.

Minatauro: Ju Jitsu doesnt seem to work on Fedor (watch the 1st 2 fights vs. minotauro

Cro cop – was running scared away from Fedor when they fought each other.

Chuck Liddell: u have got to be kidding me…. u think that chucks takedown defense could stop Fedor….. Fedor would steamroll right over Liddell.

Couture: Now he has a chance against Fedor, although Fedors heavy hands could prove to b to much for Randy to handle… If anyone can do it its randy.

Chuck vs. Fedor is commical

Listen LHW’s don’t wanna fight fedor. 4get yur dreams of Liddell moving up in weight to fights Fedor….never gonna happen.

The only LHW stupid enough to fight Fedor would b Dan Henderson, and that wont b pretty

Fedor is a poser, the toughest guys he’s fought in the last 2 years was Lindland.. I really believe Randy, Gonzaga, Vera, Sylvia, Crocop and even nog all have great chances of beating him and he knows this..

HAHAHA! Sylvia would be destroyed.

Gonzaga is top 10, but too inexperienced.

Vera needs a good test in the UFC before I’ll say he has a chance. If he beats Sylvia, I will be impressed, but its the manner that he beats Sylvia that will tell us whether he can challenge Fedor. Hes still too inexperienced.

Cro-Cop went the distance with Fedor, and to this day Fedor says Mirko was his most challenging opponent. Id like to see a second fight, but I think it will go similar to the first. Cro-Cop just has to many holes in his game.

Nog has already had 3 chances to beat Fedor, he lost all three, I have no interest in seeing him beaten again by Fedor. Nog is a lot like Gonzaga, just with 10 years more experience.

Randy: He has the experience, and the tools to put up a good fight against Fedor, his wrestling will help against Fedor getting a dominant position. Randy has the best chance of beating Fedor, though Randy will probably fight Nog next, thats going to be a very tough fight for him.

Fedor is great,no doubt about that.But holyshit how much does he think he’s worth.Hell Couture and Liddell fight for around $250,000 a fight and they’re right up there with him.If i were Dana White i’d give him one last offer,if he doesn’t take it,
Lidh well see ya later.

Liddell makes a million if he wins his fights. I was surprised to c that Couture only made $250,000 base pay and $250,000 winning bonus against Gozaga…. I thought he was gonna make chuck liddell type money

Yeah, I looked into this, this guy does have a source, he later goes on to say how he also proved the AA and Werdum fight before it happened, he even sites his previous post, I checked it out. It’s legit. This guy accuratly predicted the AA/Werdum fight before it happened, lets hope his source is good for this one to!!! Guys, I think we got IT!!!!!

The Anomaly: I also looked into this…. and the guy did call Werdum vs. Arlovski, so lets hope he knows someone wit inside info. I really believe Dana is messing wit the fans to make a big announcement, either this saturday in london, UFC UFN live becuase it will be aired for free and it will b in front of an American Audience, or Sept 22 in Anahiem. I really believe that he will be announc`ed as the UFC’s latest signee b4 October. Lets keep our fingers crossed!

randy got lucky against tim???? he completely dominated the whole fight. he obviously couldnt do that against Fedor, but im sure he could use things such as the cage and dirty boxing to grind out a decision…of course its hard to bet against fedor

yeah 3 minutes in a stale mate with ranfy on tims back big jon shoul’ve stood them up

Chuck vs. Fedor is commical

To say that Chuck vs. Fedor is comical is also ridiculous, considering who Fedor has fought over the last year or so. It would only take one good punch with Chuck, and he’s damn good at finding that punch.

Sure, Fedor has kicked ass for a long time, but he isn’t the only one. If you haven’t realized that anything can happen in the cage after what has happened this year, you probably never will. Fedor is definately the top fighter in the world right now, but he is also definately human, and you have to consider that. I do not dislike Fedor (I have a lot of respect for all fighters, especially the guys in the top 10), but its ridiculous when people don’t give the guys like Couture or Arlovski a chance at beating him. It’s easy to say that Fedor will be the #1 fighter for the rest of his career, but there are some guys out there who could change that. There are so many fighters who have the tools to make it happen, but no one has done it yet. If Fedor is going to lose anytime soon it will be in the UFC. Give him 2 years in the UFC and he will have lost. Yeah, 2 years is a long time, but Liddell made 3 years, and Hughes made it for 2 years on 2 different streaks. If Fedor is truly the most dominant of all time, we will have to wait until he signs to know for sure.

Fedor is the best guy out there. He proved it with his record. Heis unbeatable to date. Fedor had tough opponents like Mark Hunt, Mirco CroCop, and Randleman. he can beat Couture easily!!!!

so let me get this straight…

Here are all the UFC 74 payouts:

Randy Couture — $250,000
Gabriel Gonzaga — $45,000
Randy Couture defeated Gabriel Gonzaga via technical knockout(strikes) in round three

Georges St. Pierre — $140,000 ($70,000 to show, $70,000 to win)
Josh Koscheck — $10,000
Georges St. Pierre defeated Josh Koscheck via unanimous decision

Roger Huerta — $34,000 ($17,000 to show, $17,000 to win)
Alberto Crane — $4,000
Roger Huerta defeated Alberto Crane via technical knockout (strikes) in round three

Joe Stevenson — $32,000 ($16,000 to show, $16,000 to win)
Kurt Pellegrino — $8,000
Joe Stevenson defeated Kurt Pellegrino via unanimous decision

Patrick Cote — $24,000 ($12,000 to show, $12,000 to win)
Kendall Grove — $12,000
Patrick Cote defeated Kendall Grove via technical knockout (strikes) in round one

Renato “Babalu” Sobral — $50,000* ($25,000 to show, $25,000 to win)
David Heath — $6,000
Renato “Babalu” Sobral defeated David Heath via submission (anaconda choke) in round two

Frank Mir — $66,000 ($36,000 to show, $30,000 to win)
Antoni Hardonk — $8,000
Frank Mir defeated Antoni Hardonk via submission (kimura) in round one

Thales Leites — $18,000 ($9,000 to show, $9,000 to win)
Ryan Jensen — $4,000
Thales Leites defeated Ryan Jensen via submission (armbar) in round one

Clay Guida — $14,000 ($7,000 to show, $7,000 to win)
Marcus Aurelio — $30,000
Clay Guida defeated Marcus Aurelio via split decision

Ok so how much is Fedor asking for???? Is it extravagantly more than the $250,000 that Randy got to fight Gonzaga? The Ufc did 2.85 million in gate for UFC 75. that is without what they got paid in advertisement and PPV revenue. Give the guy the fucking money if you are serious about pitting the best vs the best. I’m sure that if Franklin were to beat Silva ( hypothetical of course because Silva’s gonna spank him again), Dana would have no problem shelling out for a huge payday in Rich’s favour because they are boys. I’m sick of seeing the Silva’s, GSP’s and Fedors get fucked over monetarily because they aren’t part of that “clique” of Dana’s.