Babalu says I'm sorry to David Heath; $25K withheld and still not out of the woods

Weak, what a chump,

I never liked the human knock out highlight reel anyway, Chuck should have kicked him harder!

i’ll say it again – total BS! bring the brazilian killer back! he’s one of the most exsplosive LHWs we have (unless he’s fighting chuck) wizard on the ground, and holds either wins or has gone the distance with a GD whos who of MMA!

FREE BABALU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He is just trying to get out of trouble now…

I think the fine..would be suitable..the problem here is of Morals..Babablu doesn’t look good with his actions. His only option other than making things worse or not say nothing is to apologize for his actions. I think he would be a good LHW for other new comers to face upon getting into the ranks..such like a Tito.. and we have the talk of BJ/Jens situ..which when I saw it taught it was wrong..but no one said nothing. The rule has to be clear and fair across the board.. With the arrival of Shogun and Babalu being his real only loss..that was the next fight I saw for Shogun.. at this time I think things need to cool down a bit for Babalu b4 anything else happens.

I can’t pass judgement until I see the video. Does anyone have a link? I can’t seem to find it.

It does fit the crime. It’s completely obvious he knew there was a tap and his post-fight comments prove that. The UFC has been trying for years to move away from that type of image and Babalu selfishly brought that negativity back into the spotlight. Plain and simple, he got what he deserved.

Fine him, suspend him, but in the end bring him back. This would be strike 2. If he does another stupid thing. Give him the boot. Strike 3

BJ held the choke long on Pulver than he did.

Here ya go, Dominator.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4686323806210975058&q=babalu heath&total=2&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

This is so dumb. Royce did it in the beginning, BJ did a couple of months ago. The UFC is just getting a little PC and allowing itself to be pushed around by the mass media.

Thanks Yoda for pointing that out, everyone seems to forget all the other fights since this is the flavor of the month.

BJ held the choke long on Pulver than he did.

Very true. I hate to see Babalu go. He’s a damn good exciting fighter to watch. Obviously the guy has alot going on in his head. Getting the contract taken away might have been alil harsh

Good riddance, if only because he was stupid enough to admit he held the choke to teach Heath a lesson.

Yoda — you’re right. The problem with Babalu’s situation, I guess, was that the scene was so extreme with the blood pouring out of Heath’s head and the crowd booing the repeated replays. It is bullshit, and it shows an obvious double-standard vs. what Penn did. And, like most people, I would have loved to see Shogun take on Babalu before getting his title shot.

Simply trying to save his ass, he just doesnt want to work a 9-5 in Key Food. Dana do something good for once and ban him from the UFC. He has shown that he is capable of this, why give him the chance to do it again ?

Baby Jay gets away, Babalu nailed.

Doesn’t sound like anyone is playing favorites or anything.

Cmon, thanks for the link. After reading about this incident for a week now, i completely had a different picture of what happened than what i saw in the video. BJ’s hold, definately longer.

ban him for 1 year – any more action than that is too unreasonable

Bring Back Babalu!

Don’t make warriors fight punks, and if you do, don’t be upset when there is a blood bath!

Honor

It’s not a tickling competiton, these lads are out ot hurt each other. How many extra puches did Mcfedries land on Radev while he and the ref were napping?

i never seen the fight so its hard to say what should happen. However I see this as not a whole lot different then when a fighter is clearly knocked out and yet his oppenent hits a few more times, for no reason. There is the whole thing “fight until the ref stops it” or whatever, and sometimes i believe that you might not know he is out. But in some instances there is no way that you could not know your oppenent is knock out. I see this situation as being the same as the babalu situation. Either way I think that sometimes fighters should show a little more respect for fellow fighters and maybe a little bit of restraint.

Here ya go, Dominator.

Thanks for the link, cmon.

Yeah that was pretty cheap of Babalu, but I think stripping him of $25,000 will deter him from doing that again. He is too big of a draw to kick out of the UFC. I also agree with the BJ comparison. BJ got off scott-free because he didn’t brag about what he did afterward and he gave Jens a hug after the fight…but it still doen’t make it ok to what he did.

yea i was kinda thinking the same thing bj held his choke longer than babalu did does that mean that bj would have been suspended if pulver went to sleep?

Baby Jay gets away, Babalu nailed.

Doesn’t sound like anyone is playing favorites or anything.

i didn’t see this comment, but i completely agree Penn held on longer than he had to and the ref had to get in there and break it up, the only difference was that pulver didnt go to sleep. Also, in a interview after the fight Penn said that he should have held on the choke longer than he already did.

i’ll say it again – total BS! bring the brazilian killer back! he’s one of the most exsplosive LHWs we have (unless he’s fighting chuck) wizard on the ground, and holds either wins or has gone the distance with a GD whos who of MMA!

FREE BABALU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, I agree. Releasing him was a total PR stunt. Babalu has certainly learned his lesson here. He is now going to have to settle fighting for a B league and can no longer be considered a serious contender. However, once this blows over—maybe like a year from now—he will be back in the UFC and chocking motherfuc*ers out. Hopefully he lets go in time in future bouts.

I just feel kinda bad for him because obviuosly Dana is trying to make an example of him.

The canceled contract sux.

Does the punishment fit the crime? No. Was it correct for the UFC to exact such punishment? Yes.

It’s called precedence.

Let Babalu and Jardine fight to the death…….winner stays!

Yeah That is BS that Babalu got introuble and lost 25K, Dana was looking for a way to get rid of him. I thought he was holding on to the choke for like 20 sec, and Mazagatti was fighting him off to release the choke, Babalu released the choke after like 3 seconds, its like when you KOed someone and then continue punching thier face even though they are unconcious. Its not like Babalu broke his arm or a leg, that is the whole part of MMA, u get in the ring u get hurt.

He just wants his money

C’mon UFC LET HIM FIGHT! He said he is sorry.

Yeah, I agree. Releasing him was a total PR stunt. Babalu has certainly learned his lesson here. He is now going to have to settle fighting for a B league and can no longer be considered a serious contender. However, once this blows over—maybe like a year from now—he will be back in the UFC and chocking motherfuc*ers out. Hopefully he lets go in time in future bouts.

I am with you… FREE BABALU!!!

damn you lex luthor!!!!!heath got whats coming to him..if you don’t want to have these kind of situations dont give us lop-sided matches..give us the dream matches that you promised…poor babalu..i hope he does the same choke on dana..

The fighters need to respect the rules of the life threatening sport in which they participate. Babalu taught Heath his version of respect and now it’s Babalu’s turn to learn.

Hmmm after watching the clip it makes me wonder why BJ Penn still has a contract after the Jens Pulver fight. That didn’t look like he held it any longer than BJ did.

Baby Jay gets away, Babalu nailed.

Doesn’t sound like anyone is playing favorites or anything.

like i said earlier if Chuck liddell pulled that shit nothing would happen

I don’t think the punishment was strictly for Sobral. THe last several UFC events have had chokes holding on beyond the point they should or punches to clearly unconscious fighters.

Looking at this in a business sense. It was time for someone to feel the heat and take the punishment so others are put back in line. Sobral sealed his fate when he boasted about holding the choke longer. Not to mention his very public arrest weeks before this event.

I’m glad he got the boot. The folks who regulate our sport need to be assured that the fighters will be protected and that this is not a bunch of street fighters with broken beer bottles and chains. These are supposed to be professional fighters. Babalu forgot that and acted like an amateur. Luckily, that why they have other leagues. Hopefully he comes back in a year a lot wiser and more (professionally) hungry!

I think Sobral is a really talented fighter who’s fine should be enough. He is fun to watch (win or lose) and this should be a learning situation for him. This isn’t Vale Tudo anymore and while he should know this by now (and also how to speak english) I don’t think it should ban him from the sport. A lost contract from the UFC may very well do just that. I would hate to not see him anymore do to him being picked up by some lackluster organization looking to challenge the UFC for their belt!

Just saw the video. Didnt see anything wrong with that. BJ did it but since everyone is on his nuts, no one says anything. But Sobral does it and now its gonna be a witch hunt. Would anyone care if that was Heath that did the extra choke to the Brazilian? I seriously doubt it.

I think this message board is the concensus for most MMA fans. I think Babalu deserved to be punished, as should have BJ, but being let go of his contract was an overreaction.

Does anyone know how many fights Babalu had left on his contract?

Everyone needs to stop “HATING” on BJ. BJ did not hold the choke on Pulver nearly as long as Babalu held it on Heath. BJ only had an extra “TUG” on Jens when he tapped..Please get your facts straight before posting these types of comments.

I think this message board is the concensus for most MMA fans. I think Babalu deserved to be punished, as should have BJ, but being let go of his contract was an overreaction.

Does anyone know how many fights Babalu had left on his contract?

like one or zero

- shameful of Babalu to not let go. it’s inexplicable…and we lose a great fighter in the UFC lightweight division.

come on dana, please give him one more chance and that’s all i ask, no more no less

It’s the cycle of life.
Let questionable human conduct slide for a bit. Then someone crosses the fine line. Make an example of them. Humans behave for awhile.
Repeat cycle, add nauseum.

Didn´t Martin Kampmann put McFedries to sleep after the ref had stopped the fight? Can´t find a video of that fight, but it´s possible Kampmann held the choke as long as Babalu did.

However, as I remember it, Kampmann hadn´t realised the fight was over, which makes it different from the Babalu incident.

free babalu [dana fuck you] FREE BABALU ,ROICE,BJP,PLUS MORE AND MORE fighters did worst than him… FREE THE DEMON BACK, FREE BABALU

Oh now he’s sorry after the punishment is on it’s way.

I have no respect left for him. I hate when people do something, fully knowing it’s wrong, and then they are never sorry, they are really just sorry they were caught or punished.

Idiot.

Everyone needs to stop “HATING” on BJ. BJ did not hold the choke on Pulver nearly as long as Babalu held it on Heath. BJ only had an extra “TUG” on Jens when he tapped..Please get your facts straight before posting these types of comments.

pUniSHment, Not only did BJ deliberately hold that choke too long, but he also had a fight ending arm bar early in the fight that he released on purpose. He did both of these things in order to punish Jens Pulver. BJ Penn is considered the best in this sport by almost all the fighters. He set a very bad example in the Pulver fight.

I would say that they should make an example just because of the negative stuff he spewwed after the fight. Thats whats different in him and BJ. Holding a choke for a second or two never hurt anyone. Or landing a punch after the guy is koed, rampage vs Liddell 2. But its the crap after that makes the sport look bad. 1 yr suspension for anyform of cheating or “MAJOR POOR SPORTSMANSHIP”. The $$$ is just a bonus but should be put toward something instead of the UFC pocket.

Everyone needs to stop “HATING” on BJ. BJ did not hold the choke on Pulver nearly as long as Babalu held it on Heath. BJ only had an extra “TUG” on Jens when he tapped.

Are you serious? There are a lot of fights that end that way. The Reaction from Joe Rogan, and the constant replays made this a big deal when it should not even be talked about anymore. This is ridiculous.

Everyone needs to stop “HATING” on BJ. BJ did not hold the choke on Pulver nearly as long as Babalu held it on Heath. BJ only had an extra “TUG” on Jens when he tapped..Please get your facts straight before posting these types of comments.

Um, yes BJ definitely held the choke as long as Babalu. Check out the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRSxJj_dx10

The difference between the BJ Penn choke and the Babalu choke: BJ Penn didn’t get busted by the NSAC, Sobral did.

Also BJ didn’t put Jens to sleep. Babalu purposefully left the choke on until Heath went to sleep, he was looking the ref right in the eyes while he was doing it as well.

The descision to drop Sobral’s contract is probably because Dana White is kissing the NSAC’s ass. I wonder what would have happened with Penn had the NSAC fined him.

btw I just counted, at the time the ref began to intervene, BJ held the choke for less than 2 seconds. On the Sobral video, at the time the ref put his hands on them, it was almost 3 seconds before Babalu released.

Babalu probably realized that his “job” is at stake and is following the advice from his lawyer.
This will blow over in a few months.

Man, I just saw the clip for the 1st time, and that does not warrant his contract to be terminated. The choke wasnt that bad, whats bad is his interview where he said it was deliberate. That is horrible for the growth of mma. If he didnt open his big mouth, he would still have a job.

Its a shame to loose Babalu cuz of his big mouth. What an idiot.

Babalu’s native language isn’t English.

Did he express himself properly on the microphone?

Both sides are wrong in this case. Babalu jeopardized the sports image, not to mention Heath, and then braged about it. That really annoys me because as a fan of mma im constantly hearing people bad mouth the sport for being nothing but a bunch of street-fighting thugs with no class and no brains. The ufc isnt as dangerous as the critics make it out to be, but that is only because they have a stict set of rules and the best refs to enforce those rules. However if the fighters dont follow the refs instructions then it is a dangerous sport. On the other hand, Babalu isnt the only one to pull this kind of stunt. It seems that Dana has set him up to be the fall guy. This wasnt done to enforce the rules, it was done protect the image of the UFC. The A-list fighters are not going to be afraid of being punished because they know that the Dana needs them as much as they need him.

The hold was held no longer then BJ’s hold, but Rento had intent behind what he did. I dont think that pulling out of his contract was the right thing to do, the fine he already has been given would be fair maybe a suspension but in no way pull out of his contract.

Babalu’s native language isn’t English.

Did he express himself properly on the microphone?

That is a good point. Wandy said he wanted to “F” Chuck. Maybe he didn’t mean what was said??

pUniSHment, Not only did BJ deliberately hold that choke too long, but he also had a fight ending arm bar early in the fight that he released on purpose. He did both of these things in order to punish Jens Pulver. BJ Penn is considered the best in this sport by almost all the fighters. He set a very bad example in the Pulver fight.

NONONO MrFye. He did have Jens in an armbar, BUT determined that he had a better move to apply to Jens. NO MMA FIGHTER will ever let go of a submission if they have the opportunity to win a fight. He also said in a later interview that he believed that the armbar was not secured well enough and that Jens did a good job of getting out of the submission.. Your comment is ridiculous.

Its done, stick a fork in it. The only reason BJ didnt get tossed is back then there was only “shrek” that was a big name in the -155 division. Its that simple. And of course he didnt shoot his mouth off. But then again the UFC can edit or choose not to show him talking… So they are as much to blame.

I wish Big John was ref for this fight. He knows how to break stuff up!
BIG JOHN!!!

He just wants his money

GIVE HEATH THE MONEY