Dana White answers questions about Tito Ortiz and more

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Q: Why would you consider re-signing Tito Ortiz? He has negligible submission skills, questionable stand-up skills, his ground-and-pound style is boring for the casual fan and worst of all, he's not able to compete at a world-class level any more. He barely squeaked by with a victory over Forrest Griffin, he drew with Rashad Evens, was badly beaten by Chuck Liddell and chickened out on a boxing match with you. Please use the money you would offer to Tito to sign Fedor Emelianenko. Emmanuel S.
A: Did I write this question? It sounds like I must have submitted this question myself or you are reading my mind. I don't disagree with anything you said. There are a lot of fans who still like Tito, but I wouldn't disagree with your assessment of him. I think you really hit the nail on the head, but the reality is, even saying that, there are a lot of Tito fans out there. Why, I have no (expletive) idea, but they're there. I'll be curious to see his rematch with Rashad. Will Tito Ortiz win a world title again? Probably not, but he still has a couple of interesting fights out there.
-- UFC President Dana White answers reader questions such as the one above about Tito Ortiz, as well as others that touch on the stacked welterweight division, Andrei Arlovski, payouts, steroids and more in a recent article.
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Nice fucking support for the man who help build the UFC. Dana ego is bigger than Tito.
by RAIDERFAN on Aug 22, 2007 5:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tito Schmito. Who cares…
Unfortunately I don’t think money is the issue with signing Fedor… I get the impression its more about an exclusive contract or not. If Fedor chooses to fight elsewhere against barely B level talent, and/or against people he’s already defeated like barnet and hunt, I won’t care to watch him fight. If he thinks he’s already proven everything there is to prove, then just retire now. I want to see him fight the best to see if he still is the best.
by James on Aug 22, 2007 5:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=4556&zoneid=13
Brock Lesnar wants to fight in UFC. Him vs. Randy Couture gogogogo
by KneeToTheFace on Aug 22, 2007 5:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, Tito’s best days are behind him.
He’s a good promoter and time will tell if he’s a good businessman, also.
Good luck Tito, in whatever career awaits you!
by Fact Checker on Aug 22, 2007 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
People enjoy seeing Tito getting beat up, that’s why the UFC should re-sign him. It would be awesome to see Wanderlei smash his face in w/ knees.
by Nitro on Aug 22, 2007 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=4556&zoneid=13
Brock Lesnar wants to fight in UFC. Him vs. Randy Couture gogogogo
Dude where did you hear that Brock wants UFC? Sh*t Brock is a damm psycho animalistic beast!! It would take a sledgehamme to the to knock him out!
by Lycan on Aug 22, 2007 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing said about tito was a lie. He is done. he has no heart, he wont fight against any of the top pride guys. He is barely getting past TUF alumni. Bisping would beat him.
He can not beat:
Chuck
wandy
henderson
Shogun (that wouldnt even b close)
Sokodjou
Rogerio Noguera
Rampage
N the worst part about it is the whole world is saying this, doesnt he have any pride? If I was him (who helped build the UFC) and the whole world was saying Im washed up, I would Demaned a fight wit say wanderlei.
Tito, u fought shamrock 3 times, when he was 1 year away from a retirement home.
Then u fought Rashad, and u put on a poor performance.
Get some BVallz and fight a big name.
If not their is always TNA wrestling
by john on Aug 22, 2007 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok so I just read the interview with Brock Lesnar on that link and look he knows wrestling, and yeah he was with WWE that is fake in their fights BUT watching Lesnar toss guys who weighted more than 490 pounds across the ring like rag dolls was not fake! He ain’t scared of nobody and he’s a superb athlete. He would be the kind of motherf*ck*r who would do what Rampage did to Arona when others would try to submit him, trust me. I know he’s background and he is also a boxer, so take his wrestling and you got the makings of force to really reckon with. The one thing he is missing is MMA experience, thats it.
by Lycan on Aug 22, 2007 6:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This Tito and Dana feud was old yesterday. Dana please find a new nemisis….
by Frizz on Aug 22, 2007 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Once again, this is so unproffesional by Dana. I agree with most of what is said about Tito, but this just isn’t the sort of thing that the president of a large corporation should publicly say. It’s what I expect from 12 year olds on the playground. It’s what I expect from the WWE: it’s not what I expect from a sport dying to get the respect its great athletes deserve.
On top of that, Tito is still a big draw. Bashing him makes no business sense.
I seriously wonder how long the Fertitta’s will put up with Dana’s childishness.
by Big_B on Aug 22, 2007 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i hate tito so much.lets move on
by jason lofty stephens on Aug 22, 2007 6:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think a great match would be Lesnar vs. NSGC pre-fight drug tests.
by Midion on Aug 22, 2007 6:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Though I’m not a Tito fan anymore…he does have a couple interesting fights in him now that the UFC has gotten the likes of Wandy, Shogun, Rampage, and Hendo. Maybe Tito would lose all of those fights…but wouldn’t it be nice to see him get KTFO again???!!!
by i bread on Aug 22, 2007 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dana is skilled in the art of the tongue, he can talk for hours and not really say anything!!!
Dana wants Fedor on Dana’s terms, not the Fans terms. I am really starting to dis-like this guy. I thought he was a no bullshit kind of dude, but all this jibber jabber about nothing just to sound politically correct is GAY!!!
by UFC_FAN on Aug 22, 2007 6:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Once again, this is so unproffesional by Dana. I agree with most of what is said about Tito, but this just isn’t the sort of thing that the president of a large corporation should publicly say. It’s what I expect from 12 year olds on the playground. It’s what I expect from the WWE: it’s not what I expect from a sport dying to get the respect its great athletes deserve.
On top of that, Tito is still a big draw. Bashing him makes no business sense.
I seriously wonder how long the Fertitta’s will put up with Dana’s childishness.
But this is what we should love about Dana. What this nation most certainly does NOT need more of is politcal correctness.
Dana makes himself accessible to the media, and he lets people know exactly what his thoughts on a matter is. It’s public knowledge that Tito and Dana don’t get along. There is no reason to pretend at this point. I suppose a quick, “no comment” would be more professional, but I’m glad that’s no his style.
Imagine how much more people would hate Dana if everytime he had a tough question, he just said “no comment” or “I will have to look into that matter” or “i cannot recall whether that statement was made.”
And I disagree that bashing Tito hurts business. Their feud is pretty much the only thing that keeps him relevent. He’s now a b-level fighters in the likes of Griffin, Evans, Jardine, Lambert, but gets paid like a Liddell, Silva, Rua, jackson, Henderson. Nothing Dana can say will make Tito fans not be rabid and faithful for their badboy.
by Sam on Aug 22, 2007 6:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
pretty decent interview, he just kind of blew off the question about the commercials on ppvs instead of more fights though, i agree with the guy asking the question and would like to hear an explanation…
by tha spida on Aug 22, 2007 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Once again, this is so unproffesional by Dana. I agree with most of what is said about Tito, but this just isn’t the sort of thing that the president of a large corporation should publicly say. It’s what I expect from 12 year olds on the playground. It’s what I expect from the WWE: it’s not what I expect from a sport dying to get the respect its great athletes deserve.
On top of that, Tito is still a big draw. Bashing him makes no business sense.
I seriously wonder how long the Fertitta’s will put up with Dana’s childishness.
I think its great that Dana says what he thinks. I find it incredibly annoying when people in sports never tell us the truth about there athletes, wether its the coaches, managers or presidents. You even said that you agree with what Dana is saying. I am sick of people who act like politicians and never say what’s on there mind, at least we know were Dana stands.
by Plinko on Aug 22, 2007 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
f*ck dana.he shouldn’t b talkin about fighters like that.
by owen on Aug 22, 2007 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dana should explain why we have to pay 40$ and not get to see the undercard fights. Also not having a chance to see Clay Guida fight.
by Chris on Aug 22, 2007 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think tito is a b level fighter.he’s had a couple of bad performances(griffen,rashad).in the rashad fight, tito looked like shit, then what does that say about evans, i mean come on. he looked not that bad against chuck, a few mistakes and he got knocked out( last time i checked almost everyone gets ko’s by him.) no heart? what, did you see him the first round against chuck? it looked like it was over, he battled back, and Bravo had him winning the second round. tito fighting ken, for sure a lot of it was the ufc. those fights made alot of money for the company. i agree, the ufc should sign fedor, no excuses, but if they don’t it will be because of dana’s stubborness, not because of tito’s contract.
P.S.
i think tito must have f****d dana’s wife before or something. i mean the guys eating bitter biscuits constantly.
by Bass on Aug 22, 2007 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think all the shit he talks on tito is just spin. he’s trying to sell tickets for this guys next fight. if he hated him that bad he could find a way to get rid of him, buyout his contract or something.
by bw on Aug 22, 2007 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think i once heard tito say that he would whoop wandys azzzz again i want to see that fight, just to see tito cry again
by richard on Aug 22, 2007 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yo listen…tito iz wanna the best lightheavyweight fighterz 2 step into the octagon…hez a former 5 time defending UFC CHAMP…he wudda won the fight against rashad if he didnt grab the cage…he owned rashad 2 roundz straight an everybody knowz that…if u ask me rashad waz lucky az hell that tito grabbed the cage an lucky 2 pull a draw…watch in there re-match,tito will finsih thiz punk once an 4 all…
by ...MiNi TiTO OrTiZ... on Aug 22, 2007 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But this is what we should love about Dana. What this nation most certainly does NOT need more of is politcal correctness.
Dana makes himself accessible to the media, and he lets people know exactly what his thoughts on a matter is. It’s public knowledge that Tito and Dana don’t get along. There is no reason to pretend at this point. I suppose a quick, “no comment” would be more professional, but I’m glad that’s no his style.Imagine how much more people would hate Dana if everytime he had a tough question, he just said “no comment” or “I will have to look into that matter” or “i cannot recall whether that statement was made.”
And I disagree that bashing Tito hurts business. Their feud is pretty much the only thing that keeps him relevent. He’s now a b-level fighters in the likes of Griffin, Evans, Jardine, Lambert, but gets paid like a Liddell, Silva, Rua, jackson, Henderson. Nothing Dana can say will make Tito fans not be rabid and faithful for their badboy.
Here, here! Man you nailed it!!! Its refreshing to see a commissioner/president that says what is on his mind. I know this is an MMA site, but you couldn’t have missed Bud Selig’s dance around Barry Bonds and the homerun record. You know the guy didn’t want to be in attendance for the record because he thought Barry was guilty and he was friends with the current record holder. Dana is honest and he doing everything he can to grow the sport. Thats who I want in his shoes, whether I like him or not.
by Jackie on Aug 22, 2007 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brock Lesner vs Bob Sapp… only have to reinforce the cage first
by CanadianFighter on Aug 22, 2007 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Definately agree with ‘Chris’ .. why the hell don’t we get the undercards, they are usually the best fights. This Saturday (Sunday for me in Australia) we won’t even get to see Frank Mir v Hardonk … its bulls%^t.
P.S Hope Tito knocks out Rashad
by DownUnder on Aug 22, 2007 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tito sucks. I say keep him around and let some of the new guys from pride shame him – that’ll be fun too watch.
How about a fight with Shogun – that fight would sure make Tito look like the bitch he is.
by savior on Aug 22, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I want to see more fights where Ortiz is the underdog……. matches where he’s favoured aren’t that exciting.
by LUKE on Aug 23, 2007 4:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i agree with dana!but if tito is resigned keep the contract real short.the most exciting thing about tito is his entrance to the ring.it goes down hill from there!
by jel on Aug 23, 2007 4:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brock Lesner vs Bob Sapp… only have to reinforce the cage first
That would be insane…..Lesner has gotta fight someone with a big name who’s not necessarily a contender right now… Sapp or Slice would be good.
by LUKE on Aug 23, 2007 4:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=4556&zoneid=13
Brock Lesnar wants to fight in UFC. Him vs. Randy Couture gogogogo
blockhead lesnar hasn’t earned a fight with the great randy couture. why should randy take steps backward to fight him? there are much better fights out there. i say let blockhead earn his way. you’re watching too much phoney wrestling dude!
by jel on Aug 23, 2007 5:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
..remember not to long ago when Tito was the LHW champ and in the locker rooms warming up and throwing round house kicks on some pads..a commentator said “Tito was just a wrestler and now is a true MMA fighter..look at him hit those bags..now he is on a K1 level…” I couldn’t stop laughing..K1??
If Tito would fight any1 lighter then him with just striking rules and like a 185/170 with K1 skills..Tito would lose..he can’t scrap and is scared to get tapped..
..but the bright side for Tito..he is Tito..a MMA icon..love him or hate..you know him.
by PhilQNY on Aug 23, 2007 8:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yo listen…tito iz wanna the best lightheavyweight fighterz 2 step into the octagon…hez a former 5 time defending UFC CHAMP…he wudda won the fight against rashad if he didnt grab the cage…he owned rashad 2 roundz straight an everybody knowz that…if u ask me rashad waz lucky az hell that tito grabbed the cage an lucky 2 pull a draw…watch in there re-match,tito will finsih thiz punk once an 4 all…
Tito Ortiz = 5-Time UFC Champ ??? You better check your facts there MiniTitoOrtiz, because you’re just showing how mini your knowledge of your boy is.
by ViolentMike on Aug 23, 2007 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Every time there is a report on Dana, there is a group of people that come out and say how unprofessional he is, and how Zuffa should dump him as president. Dana is the reason why UFC is so big, his shit talking is what people LOVE to hear. Zuffa would be retarded to have him resign as president, they are getting rich off his loud mouth. They had an entire Spike special, just so Dana could call Tito a pussy for backing down from a boxing match, you think they care if Dana says this? They don’t want some lame guy that is being impartial and afraid to speak up. Dana is hilarious, and his views are usually spot on.
by Matt on Aug 23, 2007 9:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m more upset by the quality of questions in this interview. Was it an open forum, so many better questions could have been asked.
by Matt on Aug 23, 2007 10:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tito Ortiz = 5-Time UFC Champ ??? You better check your facts there MiniTitoOrtiz, because you’re just showing how mini your knowledge of your boy is.
Plus you sound like an idiot. Try spelling words correctly. It’s fun.
by GriffinFan05 on Aug 23, 2007 10:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for deleting my comment Mania,by the way my brother(no bullshit,il give you his Myspace adress if you want) works in the UFC office in London and I can tell you they realy do NOT like the way alot of these blog sites are run,while they are working hard to sell the UFC to the UK there are people on here writing ultra offensive comments about our fighters,our country and even our queen,some of the things you have alowed to be put up on here are absolutly ridiculous and you can not deny it,my comments are deleted for far less,Ive read on here some of the most offensive things towards our country and I just take it with a pinch of salt but I am just warning you that alot of other people ARE NOT.
My comment deleted on here was saying how I dont understand why people complain about Dana so much and if it wasnt for him the UFC would not be where it is today,now how is that worse then “Bispings Brit Bitch ass” or “your Queen can go and ********” or even directly offending me by calling me a wanker and alot of other things,that can give the impression that the people who run this site think the same as the idiots who want to offend people.
I enjoy this site Mania and I think you do a good job of keeping us up to date with the news,but you can not deny I do have a point.
I would apriciate it if you could reply to this comment sensibly and tell me your thoughts,I can tell you seriously that I know the UFC is not happy with a number of these blog sites(no names have been mentioned)and although there is nothing they can do to get rid of them
they are going to tell their fighters not to give interviews to certain web sites amongst other things,so all I can say is try to clean it up because it is not gonna help you in any way.
by mcanena on Aug 23, 2007 10:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Plus you sound like an idiot. Try spelling words correctly. It’s fun.
Pay attention Spelling Bee. If Tito doesn’t grab the cage, Rashad wold have repeatedly slammed him on his back and pounded on him. That fight would have been stopped in the second round with Tito looking even more beaten up than he did at the post-fight press conference.
by PW on Aug 23, 2007 10:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think a great match would be Lesnar vs. NSGC pre-fight drug tests.
THats awesome!
by john on Aug 23, 2007 10:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tito sucks. I say keep him around and let some of the new guys from pride shame him – that’ll be fun too watch.
How about a fight with Shogun – that fight would sure make Tito look like the bitch he is.
I agree, it would be fun, but believe me he would never get in a cage wit anyone of them. He ducked chuck for years, It will take 2 decades to get him in the cage wit Shogun. I would love to c Rampage slam him thru the floor! too bad we wont ever c him get beat up, cuz he has no heart and wont fight anyone that has the ability to beat him up.
I dont even think he would in the cage wit bispimg, let alone any of the established pride beasts!
by john on Aug 23, 2007 10:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Some of u have made very good points about Dana white. He gives us more true info than any other commisioner of any other sport.
I hate the fact that he underpays the fighters, and he is too possessive of his fighters (Fedor Situation ).
However give the man credit, he is the best comisioner out of all the sports.
All and All, He has done much more good for the sport, then bad.
by john on Aug 23, 2007 11:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Go Dana, tell it like it is!!! But we do want to start seeing the undercard fights.
by Rusty on Aug 23, 2007 11:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
mcanena, I must say that we don’t exactly always see eye to eye, but I have to agree with you on this. I actually had a VERY SIMILAR rant/post yesterday in the “Tim Sylvia/Brandon Vera ‘its official’” thread, with the image of the promo poster.
Please read Mania’a response to me, because it will be exactly the same for yours.
by ViolentMike on Aug 23, 2007 11:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Some of u have made very good points about Dana white. He gives us more true info than any other commisioner of any other sport.
I hate the fact that he underpays the fighters, and he is too possessive of his fighters (Fedor Situation ).
However give the man credit, he is the best comisioner out of all the sports.
All and All, He has done much more good for the sport, then bad.
..I agree.
by PhilQNY on Aug 23, 2007 11:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish the Fertitas would get rid of Dana and Tito….both of them r tools!
by i bread on Aug 23, 2007 1:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was dissapointed about no questions asking him about Brock Lesnar.
by c-war on Aug 23, 2007 2:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tito beat Evans, it was only the deduction that stopped him and fighters grab the cage all the time. Tito isn’t as tough as he used to be but he can still put on a decent fight now and then. He did pretty good in the one fight against Chuck until Chuck just overwhelmed him.
by AaronW on Aug 23, 2007 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh and if Tito is such a chump then the TUF winners are really crap since they can’t even beat him. ;)
by AaronW on Aug 23, 2007 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The cage grab prevented a slam.. Who’s to say that if Rashad had succesfully slammed him that time that he would he wouldnt have won the round, or even put Tito out. Good point deduction in my opinion, wasnt just a hand on the fence, he was holding on to the top so that Evans couldnt slam him.
If they let Carlos Newton hold the fence, Matt Hughes wouldn’t have won that fight and become the champ.
by Matt on Aug 23, 2007 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tito is about as big a pussy as Jenna Jamison’s pussy actually is.
by ViolentMike on Aug 23, 2007 3:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The cage grab prevented a slam.. Who’s to say that if Rashad had succesfully slammed him that time that he would he wouldnt have won the round, or even put Tito out. Good point deduction in my opinion, wasnt just a hand on the fence, he was holding on to the top so that Evans couldnt slam him.
If they let Carlos Newton hold the fence, Matt Hughes wouldn’t have won that fight and become the champ.
I’m not saying it was a bad deduction. But Evans ran most of the fight, he was scared to engage. Tito should have won.
by AaronW on Aug 23, 2007 3:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Personally I think DAna gets a lil ahead of himself in this interview a couple of times. Not worth explaining….You can figure it out if you read the whole thing beginning with the Tito question
by Stafo on Aug 23, 2007 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
IS PRIDE DONE?
I wish someone would have asked him this!
by UFC_FAN on Aug 23, 2007 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tito, is a good fighter, however he cant finish fights….I dont even count the last two Shamrock fights, that was so stupid, all his recent fights have went to a decission, even with Patrick Cote. who is a great middle weight striker now, but he fought Tito at UFC 50, at 205pds, and he was out of shape and Tito coudnt finish him or inflict any real damage…His only way of winning is by dicission mostly do to the fact he lays on top of people, got to give him credit for banging Jena J, but if she had as many Pricks sticking out of her as she has had stuck in her, she would look like a porkypine….
by deerock on Sep 11, 2007 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dana is an ego maniac! His boy Chuck fights Jardine when Forrest fights Shogun? Dana and Chuck should run off and get married somewhere! Dana is still pissed Chuck lost to Rampage!
by kidwell on Sep 13, 2007 12:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why do people take shots at peoples familys on a website like this! Grow up!
by kidwell on Sep 13, 2007 12:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing said about tito was a lie. He is done. he has no heart, he wont fight against any of the top pride guys. He is barely getting past TUF alumni. Bisping would beat him.
He can not beat:
Chuck
wandy
henderson
Shogun (that wouldnt even b close)
Sokodjou
Rogerio Noguera
Rampage
N the worst part about it is the whole world is saying this, doesnt he have any pride? If I was him (who helped build the UFC) and the whole world was saying Im washed up, I would Demaned a fight wit say wanderlei.
Tito, u fought shamrock 3 times, when he was 1 year away from a retirement home.
Then u fought Rashad, and u put on a poor performance.
Get some BVallz and fight a big name.
If not their is always TNA wrestling
ok first off, he already did TNA, and he already beat Wandy.. thats how he won the UFC belt to begin with in Japan… and he could be chuck… he’s just scared of the power… watch the rematch, and look at round 2, at 2:22.. tito is right next to chuck with a clinch more then avialable and instead of taking it and doing some of his infamous muay thai knees, he covers up and circles out, in fear of left hook.. and the way shogun performed at the last UFC, any UFC fighter could take out shogun, he looked like a common wanna-be fighter.. griffin threw him off so bad with his footwork.. and as for you to say get balls and fight a big name.. if you were paying attention to his last couple of fights, it just seems like Dana White is using Ortiz as a “star builder” sort of speak.. they seem to be throwing him in the mix with up and comers to try to get the next generation of big named UFC fighters, tito is my all-time favorite fighter, i love watching fight, but with this reoccuring back injury, it doesnt seem like he’ll be winning any big show fights, O DIDNT KNOW ABOUT HIS BACK? a month of ago he had an injection into his disc.. so before you go puttin the man down, you try fighting in mma with a back problem.. or even try bending over to scratch your foot.. mma fighters are the toughest guys out there, and as soon as a great fighter loses 1 fight he loses all of his fan base and is considered washed up.. remember… randy couture lost a few fights in his day, came back and won the belt..
by mma fan on Oct 1, 2007 2:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tito, is a good fighter, however he cant finish fights….I dont even count the last two Shamrock fights, that was so stupid, all his recent fights have went to a decission, even with Patrick Cote. who is a great middle weight striker now, but he fought Tito at UFC 50, at 205pds, and he was out of shape and Tito coudnt finish him or inflict any real damage…His only way of winning is by dicission mostly do to the fact he lays on top of people, got to give him credit for banging Jena J, but if she had as many Pricks sticking out of her as she has had stuck in her, she would look like a porkypine….
ooo right.. that makes sense, because 8 out of his 15 mma wins have ended by something other then decision..
which means 7 wins by decision, for those of you with poor math skills
7 out of 16 mma wins are by decision for now champion Randy Couture..
an ex-champ has had 9 fight wins by decision, who you ask? oo just some guy who goes by the name Matt Hughes
and!!
Takanori Gomi, regarded as the best lightweight fighter in the world has 12 wins by decision.. SIX OF WHICH WERE (get this) IN A ROW!!!
gonna bust hughes balls? how bout randy? well then, what about Gomi…
NO!?!?!? well why not?
Well let me ask you this, what if the Colts beat the Panthers by a feild goal in the final seconds of the game, or the yankees hit a home run in the bottom of the 9th to win a game? They would be appluaded and most likely be considered a great and dramatic win.. so why when an MMA fighter, wins a well faught, tough, close fight is it considered poor and disgracful instead of exciting…
some things that MMA fans do just do not make sense to me..
by mma fan on Oct 1, 2007 2:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oo and just as an addition to my first comment, (2 comments up) tito faught ken in 2002.. which again if you cant add correctly that is 5 years away from ken shamrocks retirement
by mma fan on Oct 1, 2007 2:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just so you guys know, since Randy Coutures win over Chuck Liddell in 2003, only 2 men could stand with Liddell past the 3rd round, 1 was jeremy horn who has over 110 MMA fights, and the other is Tito ortiz… Tito went all 5 rounds with Randy Couture which in my opinion is harder and more rare then beating randy in the 1st
by mma fan on Oct 1, 2007 2:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree, it would be fun, but believe me he would never get in a cage wit anyone of them. He ducked chuck for years, It will take 2 decades to get him in the cage wit Shogun. I would love to c Rampage slam him thru the floor! too bad we wont ever c him get beat up, cuz he has no heart and wont fight anyone that has the ability to beat him up.
I dont even think he would in the cage wit bispimg, let alone any of the established pride beasts!
pride fighters come to the ufc and dont do so well, for example, cro cop, heath herring, and seems to be shogun.. there are no such thing as established pride beasts.. i think that if Fedor came to the ufc, he would be able to beat Couture or Arlorvski, and im even going out on the limb and throwing Tim Silvia in there.. people dont understand that the UFC and Pride are SOOOO different in style of fighting, Pride is more, all over the place and fast paced.. UFC is more about ability and skill.. shogun, “the best figher in the world” to some… comes to the ufc, and cant beat a guy because of some fantastic footwork and head movement, not to mention great takedown defense and good ground work..
and as for tito fighting rampage, they are training buddies and that would most likely not happen… just like how tito and chuck were training buddies.. did you know before chuck became a superstar, he used to sleep in tito’s living room?
and did you know that in an ADCC (strictly wrestling) Tito beat Matt Hughes? heres the link for you nonbelievers http://youtube.com/watch?v=WK5h5KuPmYg
and why should we believe you that tito wouldnt get in the cage with anyone above his level?
as for some people saying pride is better then UFC, styles make fights, no company is better then another.. ufc fighters go to pride and lose, pride fighters come to ufc and lose.. except for Rampage (just wait for my man WANDY to get a title shot (or even Griffin))
by mma fan on Oct 1, 2007 3:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
People enjoy seeing Tito getting beat up, that’s why the UFC should re-sign him. It would be awesome to see Wanderlei smash his face in w/ knees.
It is funny that with the recent blow up of mma, many people missed out on what made this sport blow-up. Tito Ortiz is a UFC champion; has fought arguably one of the top-ten best fights ever. Tito Ortiz vs. Frank Shamrock at UFC 22. Oh yeah, Tito already fought Wanderlei. Tito ground and pounded his way to a decisive win over the Japanese adopted Brazilian. Wanderlei has had a string of bad luck in the UFC. So much for your knee smashing. There is a lot of hate on the screen for Tito Ortiz. Tito had one of (if not) the largest fan followings before the explosion. Tito is a huge part of the overall popularity of this sport. Keep it up. We need fighters who give us a reason to talk, so does Dana White.
by rasta j on Jan 2, 2008 3:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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