Matt Hughes: 'Mind games' got under the skin of Serra during TUF 6 (Audio)

Props: TheTicket.com (Check the comments section for a quick recap.)
While we're at it, Hughes also offered up some predictions on the upcoming UFC 74 fight between Georges St. Pierre and Josh Koscheck on his official Web site forum. He also comments on who he thinks would win a fight between Sean Sherk and BJ Penn ... and more.
Here's the full snip:
"I think GSP will win the fight. He has so many more ways to win. All I see Kos doing is taking him down and holding him. If he can take him down. Kos might be the better wrestler, but that does not mean the he will get the takedowns. Who can do takedowns in a fight not on a wrestling mat. I think I would beat Kos easier than GSP.
I think Sherk wins this fight. He will be stronger, better shape, and confident. I do not think BJ can stop his takedowns, and I do not think he can submit Sherk. Sherk will be in so much better shape. I was not impressed with BJs cardio in the Jens fight."
Hughes and Serra are opposing coaches on the upcoming season of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 6, which is set to debut on Wednesday, September 19 at 11 p.m. ET. The two will then settle their score on December 29 in a welterweight title fight.
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Audio recap:
- He can’t joke around and take pictures with fans because some dude started a lawsuit after Hughes pretended to choke him in the shot Admits that GSP was just better than him on the day when he lost the title
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- Says that GSP will beat Serra nine out of 10 times Jokes that the UFC has a ton of money that it doesn’t want anyone to know about
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- Feels that fighters on the whole are compensated fairly Chuckles when asked whether or not its true he makes 300K per fight, meaning he makes way more
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- Good friends with GSP, which is the reason he teased him on TUF. Says it’s just the way he is growing up with a twin brother. Mind games on TUF 6 might have gotten under the skin of Serra during the taping
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There’s lots more but those are the quick highlights.
by UFCmania on Aug 14, 2007 4:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah on steroids. I hope they strip sherk of his belt your not a real champion if you use enhancement drugs.
by skoler1 on Aug 14, 2007 4:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha was hughes impressed wjen bj submitted his ass for the title
by wigs on Aug 14, 2007 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt Hughes is a complete moron. He utter dislike for BJ constantly shines through, just because bj is better than him. It would be awesome so see Kos take Hughes down and put the country boy on his back.
War Matt Serra!!
by Brandon Aquino on Aug 14, 2007 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL beat KOS easier then St.pierre. Hughes didn’t exactly have an easy time with St. Pierre. He got lucky in the first fight to end it the way he did.
by wigs on Aug 14, 2007 4:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
man, this guy is a moron.
Cant wait to see GSP or BJ crush him again.
by mayberry on Aug 14, 2007 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wonder if hughes will be a good coach on TUF 6 , the guy seems a little bias at times to me. Everytime he opens his ignorant bomkin mouth I replay both hallman fights (takes like 20 seconds combined)then watch bj choke him out. KOS would beat hughes at is own game.
by wigs on Aug 14, 2007 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All you Hughes Haters were talking about how Hughes was such a piece of shit for talking trash with GSP… but its CLEAR that they are both friends.
I dont know what Matt Hughes has said to piss anyone off other then a BJ Penn nut hugger…
by Luppers on Aug 14, 2007 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sad how everyone makes fun of Hughes, a guy that actually says what he is thinking. I didn’t hear him make every excuse in the book after he lost to GSP.
by copperhead on Aug 14, 2007 5:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt Hughes is one of the greatest fighters of all time and if he states an opinion; people should listen. We don’t have to agree with him, but we should hear him out and value his opinion. No matter what Hughes will call it down the middle; it’s hard to argue his viewpoints on the two upcmoing fights between B.J. Penn vs. Sean Sherk and GSP vs. Koscheck. Hughes is the man!
by Red on Aug 14, 2007 5:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW! Hughes is WAY off on both his little “predications.” But of course he’d say Kos can’t beat GSP… because GSP schooled him. Hughes knows he and Kos are cut from the same mold. Saying Kos would beat GSP is like basically saying Kos is better then him at wrestling and take downs (which I believe Kos may be).
BJ Penn not able to do his thing against Sherk? Doubtful. BJ Penn was able to beat Hughes, who beat Sherk. I know MMA math doesn’t always add up, but Hughes is way off here.
What a goof.
by Soups on Aug 14, 2007 6:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not a Hughes hater…I don’t blame him for trying to get under GSP’s skin…I wouldn’t have done it the same way, but if anyone’s earned the right to speak what he thinks it’s Hughes. He is the most dominant champ that weight class has ever seen. I think he’ll kill Serra, but I think GSP would get the best of him in a 3rd match. Also, I hope that a 3rd fight wouldn’t be in Canada, because that might be too much pressure for GSP…
by Shadyone33 on Aug 14, 2007 6:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sherk/shark ,or just juice puppy alligator arms. BJ Penn is a real athlete who honestly puts himself on the line in the octagon. Sherk couldn’t win against any of the top contenders at 170, BJ just happened to champion the division. What makes anyone think that sherk could even beat jens pulver(aged as he has a little). Sherk against anyone I consider a top mma fighter has never looked dominate like bj penn has. Who knows if this guy will even be able to show up and perform like he has in prior events now that his bullcrap has been exposed.
by wigs on Aug 14, 2007 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hughes just hates BJ cause he knows BJ is better, and on top has got his number. Otherwise I think the Hughes interview was pretty good.
by The Anomaly on Aug 14, 2007 6:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How can he say he was not impressed with BJ PENN’s cardio in the fight against PULVER? Penn clearly dominated that fight. Matt Hughes is just a HATER. He knew that BJ was supposed to win the belt at UFC 63. Please someone, agree with me..
by pUniSHment on Aug 14, 2007 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i know its not mma talk but watch u will laugh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myB_8UPTGBQ
by taco on Aug 14, 2007 6:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hughes just hates BJ cause he knows BJ is better, and on top has got his number. Otherwise I think the Hughes interview was pretty good.
How does Bj Penn have his number? Have you seen round 3 of their 2nd fight? Hughes utterly destroys him , standing , on the ground and submitted him with strikes … He just couldnt tap cause he couldnt move…
BJ Penn knows if he doesnt win before round 3 then hes cardio goes too shit… He gassed against Hughes pt2 , GSP , Pulver part 1 etc..
by Dayzah on Aug 14, 2007 7:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All you Hughes Haters were talking about how Hughes was such a piece of shit for talking trash with GSP… but its CLEAR that they are both friends.
I dont know what Matt Hughes has said to piss anyone off other then a BJ Penn nut hugger…
Its not so much what hes said,Hughes used to be one of my favourite fighters untill I saw him laughing at GSP when he got beat by MS,when GSP beat hughes he had every right to mouth off at least a bit after coz he ran through him like a train,but he showed him nothing but respect and then its like Hughes just threw that back in his face when he was laughing at him,as soon as I saw that it turned me right off of Hughes.
by mcanena on Aug 14, 2007 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Taco nice link….man buddy is a trip….some of it seems staged but funny none the less….got anymore money clips you could direct me to?
by ACanadianPotHead on Aug 14, 2007 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hughes simply may have laughed from astonishment. Who hasn’t done that? It’s the “Noooo WAY!” laugh.
And for the absurd domino arguments… “A beat B; B beat C; so A will beat C”… silly! Seriously. Just pointless arguments that mean exactly zero. MMA doesn’t work like a Rubik’s Cube.
by MMACrossfire on Aug 14, 2007 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How does Bj Penn have his number? Have you seen round 3 of their 2nd fight? Hughes utterly destroys him , standing , on the ground and submitted him with strikes … He just couldnt tap cause he couldnt move…
BJ Penn knows if he doesnt win before round 3 then hes cardio goes too shit… He gassed against Hughes pt2 , GSP , Pulver part 1 etc..
The only reason he couldn’t fight back was because he injured his rib during the second round. Like I said, Penn would have beat Hughes if it weren’t for that misfortune. Also, Matt Hughes did not break BJ Penn’s rib, BJ broke it while doing one of his flexible moves. I think that after he got tired from the GSP fight, he realized that he needed to be more in shape. Lastly, please know that BJ Penn only had six weeks to train for the fight, when Matt Hughes had a little over three months. BJ Penn will dominate the lightweight division and then move on to the welterweight division AGAIN..
by pUniSHment on Aug 14, 2007 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt hughes is an ass, i hope Serra destroys him!
by thenovemberact on Aug 14, 2007 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You mean to tell me that Hughes picked his buddy Sherk to beat BJ Penn?!?! Penn would destroy Sherk and I hope that he wins his appeal somehow, is forced to train naturally, and fails to make weight. Penn would still fight him, whoop his ass and then call out Hugues for rubber match.
by Mahde on Aug 14, 2007 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All you Hughes Haters were talking about how Hughes was such a piece of shit for talking trash with GSP… but its CLEAR that they are both friends.
I dont know what Matt Hughes has said to piss anyone off other then a BJ Penn nut hugger…
Dude Luppers wake up! you believe He and georges are friends? Did you see the way he was celebrating after GSP got KOed? Yo get a clue, you probably believe Matt Hughes if he told you gullible was spelled with two u’s
by BLOodyMEss on Aug 14, 2007 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hughes seems to be friends with Sherk. He’s biased for his friend. A good friend will give his buddy support & speak positively about him to reinforce his confidence. This is fine, but BJ will totally win. BJ will defend the takedown more often than not, he will outstrike Sherk, and he will outsmart Sherk.
I’m a St.Pierre fan & did my share of Hughes trash talking before the St.Pierre fight but that’s just because of the hype & me wanting ST.Pierre to pull through & get the job done. Matt Hughes is alright. He’s a different kind of Tito. He has his own way of stirring up controversy & making us all write in these forums. He’ll always draw attention & a crowd. Hughes is still at the very top of UFC. His only recent losses are to two studs(St.Pierre & Penn). Hughes is not my favorite fighter but he’s a serious competitor & I’ll probably always enjoy watching him fight & I might even cheer for him once in a while.
by Kevy B on Aug 14, 2007 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha was hughes impressed wjen bj submitted his ass for the title
not as impressed as i was when he pounded BJ`s face in…
by reagan on Aug 14, 2007 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hughes simply may have laughed from astonishment. Who hasn’t done that? It’s the “Noooo WAY!” laugh.
No, It’s was the I love it laugh, Hughes said, “I love it , I love it, I love it”, while he was laughing.
by Gord on Aug 14, 2007 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like matt hughes and totally agree with him and his predictions, not many have more experience that him and he makes some good points to back up why he thinks st.pierre and sherk would win. MMA math doesn’t work, its more like rock, paper scissors, I think penn has a better chance against Hughes than sherk, even though Hughes beat sherk, its all about styles and how they match up against there opponent. Any one who knows anything about MMA knows st.pierre is the best welter weight out there and the only way koscheck wins is by some fluke like the only other 2 times st.pierre lost.
by nathan on Aug 14, 2007 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the reasons he gives for GSP winning are the same thing they should be for the bj/sherk fight. bj has more ways to win. sherk and kos are the same fighter except kos is a better wrestler and he thinks he can box. penn against sherk is kinda a joke matchup wise. sherk cant stand with him and he certainly isnt better on the ground. hes gotta get real lucky to win that fight.
by shawn on Aug 14, 2007 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Once again, the Matt Hughes haters come out in full force. Have any of you ripped GSP for having a different excuse every week for losing to a hack like Serra? Hughes will likely dominate Serra. Hughes was probably right that GSP would beat Serra 9 out of 10 times, just as Hughes probably would also. Hughes is in a completely different class from the mediocre Serra.
As someone said, unless you worship at the altar of BJ Penn, why is anything Hughes said offensive? Josh Koscheck and Matt Serra have personally insulted Hughes many times. Serra was at an MMA event here a few months ago, and the first words I heard out of his mouth were “Hughes is a #@!$”. Yet when Hughes offers his opinion about two fights, opinions that are not at all unrealistic, the Hughes bashers leap to life as though this is further evidence of him being a jerk.
Hughes looked at two fights, and predicted that two men who were his friends would win. I guess some fans would have more respect for Hughes if he gave a WWF-style profanity-laced tirade.
by Big_B on Aug 14, 2007 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL beat KOS easier then St.pierre. Hughes didn’t exactly have an easy time with St. Pierre. He got lucky in the first fight to end it the way he did.
When he says he can “beat Kos easier than GSP”, I think he means he can beat Kos easier than GSP could beat Kos. At least that’s how I interpreted it.
It doesn’t make that much sense the other way, seeing how he lost his last match to GSP.
by IceMuncher on Aug 14, 2007 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Matt Hughes, I really do. The only thing I found a little disturbing was him laughing at Pierre when he lost, but hey who knows, maybe him and Pierre are friends. The person whom I cannot stand is Matt Serra, he has anger problems for realz. You could call him a booger eater, and he would have a grudge against you for the rest of his life. I really hope Hughes beats his face into subission then throws him out of the cage.
by c-war on Aug 14, 2007 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I still don’t see the reason for Hughes to leave the division to fight Silva if Franklin doesn’t win. Hughes has got more competition now than ever so I think he’s running.
by steve on Aug 14, 2007 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I still don’t see the reason for Hughes to leave the division to fight Silva if Franklin doesn’t win. Hughes has got more competition now than ever so I think he’s running.
If that is the case(which I don’t think it is) Silva is the wrong direction to run. That’s like running away from the guy with the knife, to the guy with the gun.
by Gord on Aug 14, 2007 10:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL beat KOS easier then St.pierre. Hughes didn’t exactly have an easy time with St. Pierre. He got lucky in the first fight to end it the way he did.
When he says he can “beat Kos easier than GSP”, I think he means he can beat Kos easier than GSP could beat Kos. At least that’s how I interpreted it.
It doesn’t make that much sense the other way, seeing how he lost his last match to GSP.
I think what he means is ,he can beat Kos easier than he can’t beat GSP.
by Gord on Aug 14, 2007 10:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If GSP has friends like that he sure the hell doesnt need enemies. Nothing like having your buddy laugh at you when you just had one of the worst days in your life.
I hang my mouth open and shake my head when I am in disbelief. Not laugh, cover my face up behind a friends back and repeatedly spak, “I love it!” I am amzzed you even said that.
by muto on Aug 14, 2007 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You guys are unbelievable!!! Hughes will beat Serra and stop all the cussing that comes out of his dirty mouth. What happened with Penn and Hullman was a long time ago. Guaranteed Hullman wouldn’t want back in the ring with Hughes. And BJ needs to stay at 155 if he wants to compete. Hughes dominated him just like Gracie. (Which is the real reason that Sera don’t like him) Most guys don’t like a guy that says it like it is and then backs it up. That my friends is Hughes to the tee. Let’s see how it all goes.
I predict that Hughes regains the gold….and thats the bottom line. Hate it all you want
by Tony Draper on Aug 14, 2007 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When is Hughes going to retire and become a spokesperson for John Deere?
by justagirl on Aug 14, 2007 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I doubt Hughes has an easier time than GSP. The Matt Hughes I saw against Chris Ltyle tells me so. 3 round of unimpressive performance by him.
by Chris on Aug 14, 2007 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sherk should be called the Sean Steroid Shrek T-rex arms Shark. Is anyone a little suspicious that farmboy Matt might be a user too?
by RobH86 on Aug 14, 2007 11:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL beat KOS easier then St.pierre. Hughes didn’t exactly have an easy time with St. Pierre. He got lucky in the first fight to end it the way he did.
MMMM oddly enough u were just on the other thread complaining about excuses. Now whos making excuses hypocrite. Lucky i think not.
by Thor1982 on Aug 15, 2007 1:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wonder if hughes will be a good coach on TUF 6 , the guy seems a little bias at times to me. Everytime he opens his ignorant bomkin mouth I replay both hallman fights (takes like 20 seconds combined)then watch bj choke him out. KOS would beat hughes at is own game.
Hallman lol that might have made a good point almost a decade ago. Bj Penn and Hughes funny everytime i hear their names together Penn getting pummeled in Rd 3 at 63 comes to mind.
by Thor1982 on Aug 15, 2007 1:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sherk should be called the Sean Steroid Shrek T-rex arms Shark. Is anyone a little suspicious that farmboy Matt might be a user too?
Dont be starting that train.
by Thor1982 on Aug 15, 2007 1:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I still don’t see the reason for Hughes to leave the division to fight Silva if Franklin doesn’t win. Hughes has got more competition now than ever so I think he’s running.
He still has a good chance to smoke anyone in this Division. Maybe if he loses to Serra than changes divisions that would be a theory at best. But as is now with all his fights and experience its pretty clear he’s not afraid to fight anyone.
by Thor1982 on Aug 15, 2007 1:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent interview. I see the Hughes haters are out in full force. Sounds like a bunch of preteen boys. :)
by Jim on Aug 15, 2007 1:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All you Hughes Haters were talking about how Hughes was such a piece of shit for talking trash with GSP… but its CLEAR that they are both friends.
I dont know what Matt Hughes has said to piss anyone off other then a BJ Penn nut hugger…
A lot of people remember Hughes being a dick during his short appearance on TUF (which motivated GSP to kick his head off in their title fight). Then they saw Hughes and Sherk in the audience giggling like a couple of giddy girls when Serra KO’d GSP. Hughes said he and GSP are friends but I’d like to hear that confirmed from GSP. Hughes has bitch slapped GSP in public. I’m not seeing the love. I think it’s more the case that he realized you don’t piss GSP off if you want him to come out flat so you can beat him. Look how complimentary Serra was before their title fight.
I think GSP is the only guy Hughes isn’t completely confident he can beat so he’s floating this kiss ass out there.
by Mamas Boy on Aug 15, 2007 6:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No, It’s was the I love it laugh, Hughes said, “I love it , I love it, I love it”, while he was laughing.
I was really friggin stunned when GSP got knocked out. No laughing going on in my house.
I went back and watched UFC 64 (just now) when Silva kicked the sh!t out of Rich Franklin. There is a three second shot of Matt Hughes comforting some crying woman in the audience and he looks pissed off. Hmmm… no laughing in astonishment when that “friend” got knocked out.
by Mamas Boy on Aug 15, 2007 7:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just for the record, I wouldn’t count myself as a Hughes hater but more an “over and back” former liker, former hater. I don’t think he’s a dumb country bumpkin like some say. He has excellent camera presence and if he could just mature a bit psychologically, he could have a decent career in broadcasting after he retires. To his credit, he can put on a straight face and present himself as an ambassador for MMA quite well. What he needs to fix is 20 minutes later when the camera catches him acting like an immature high school jock. Grow up boy- you’re friggin 33 years old!
by Mamas Boy on Aug 15, 2007 7:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was good to hear from Hughes, and I can’t wait to watch TUF 6 and then watch him demolish Serra and reclaim the title. The thing about Hughes is that he has built upon his wrestling skills and physical conditioning and made himself a great fighter. I believe that Hughes has a couple of more years in him, provided he does not fight more than twice a year, which would be about right. Remember that, in ’06 he fought Gracie, Penn, and GSP all within seven months. That is too much.
Hughes will beat Serra, he will beat Sanchez, Karo, and Kos. The only guy who can beat him is GSP, but I think if they fight again, Hughes will not stand and strike with him, so it will be a different fight all together. And, if GSP loses to Kos, it is unlikely he will be back on top before Hughes retires.
by Steven on Aug 15, 2007 8:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anderson silva quote: "Matt hughes is a dwarf who is full of himself. I guarentee that in his mind knows that at this point in time GSP will beat him at least 8 out of 10 times. Matt stop hating on BJ because yor not even in his skill class. All u can say bad about BJ is his cardio, and that is prolly the easiest aspect of MMA to improve on.
BJ has better striking, submissions, his dexterity is insane, and he comes to fight. I truly believe he fears no one. Matt your title reign is over. I hope serra beats him all the way back to his farm. Y bother winning the title again Hughes, so u can loose it 4 months later to GSP?
Matt hughes may be affective:
But from an entertainers point of view, Id rather see:
BJ, Karo, GSP, Fitch, Sanchez, and maybe even Serra, at least he puts on ju jitsu clinic every time he steps in the cage.
I would love to see BJ(in top condition) vs Hughes part III
BJ Knows he is a great fighter when all someone that hates u can say is u lack conditioning.
No way a well conditioned BJ will ever loose to Hughes.
Id also like to c BJ Penn vs. Serra (what a grappling exhibition that would be)
Prdeiction: Hughes vs serra ( I like serra to pull off the upset)
by john on Aug 15, 2007 8:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt Hughes is gonna straight up school the jerk off from “Strong Island” you honestly think anyone is giving Matt Serra a chance. No one is going to underestimate him ever again which is why Serra is going to go back to cutting weight to make 155. Wrap up bring in the new year with the greatest welterweight champion ever. Hence he gets “way more” than $300,000 per fight.
by Kevin Kelly on Aug 15, 2007 9:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1. Not underestimating Serra
2. Styles make fights – Serra wont submit Hughes with BJJ
3. Serra doesnt have great stand up so Hughes’ lack of it will make that category even.
4. Serra ground and pound a stronger Matt Hughes ? Hey even the sun shines of a dog’s ass sometimes
by Kevin Kelly on Aug 15, 2007 9:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt hughes is an ass, i hope Serra destroys him!
..I co-sign that.
by PhilQNY on Aug 15, 2007 9:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You guys are unbelievable!!! Hughes will beat Serra and stop all the cussing that comes out of his dirty mouth. What happened with Penn and Hullman was a long time ago. Guaranteed Hullman wouldn’t want back in the ring with Hughes. And BJ needs to stay at 155 if he wants to compete. Hughes dominated him just like Gracie. (Which is the real reason that Sera don’t like him) Most guys don’t like a guy that says it like it is and then backs it up. That my friends is Hughes to the tee. Let’s see how it all goes.
I predict that Hughes regains the gold….and thats the bottom line. Hate it all you want
When you watched the Pwnn/Hughes fight did you show up late only see RD 3? If you did then your statement is true. If you watched the entire fight then your statement is BS!
Way to go out on a limb with the Hughes/Serra prediction…..I think USC will win the PAC 10 football championship this year.
by muto on Aug 15, 2007 9:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent interview. I see the Hughes haters are out in full force. Sounds like a bunch of preteen boys.
Matt Hughes is a man. So I guess that means all the little boys dislike him. Matt Hughes is as dominant a fighter the UFC has seen. He has been on top of the WW division for a looooooong time. What fighter currently within the top 2 of their division can say the same?
by ViolentMike on Aug 15, 2007 9:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I personally can’t stand Matt Hughes but he DOES speak his mind and isn’t afraid to say what he thinks even if it’s unpopular and that earns my respect. Oh yeah, and the fact that he’s beat just about everybody of note in the welterweight division. BJ, GSP, Trigg, Sherk, Gracie, and on and on. He may have lost to BJ and GSP, but that speaks more to their talent, then it does to his. The guy is a great fighter, a good person, and despite the idiotic things he says, I’ll always respect him.
by CanadaMM-Eh on Aug 15, 2007 10:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt hughes is an ass, i hope Serra destroys him!
well said!
by jsoph on Aug 15, 2007 12:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Matt hughes is an ass, i hope Serra destroys him!
EXCELLENT !
by George R on Aug 15, 2007 12:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is this forum anti-Hughes or true Matt Serra fans ? If you guys are fans of Serra pray he loses so he can be somewhat of a force at 155 pounds. No one is going to “underestimate” Serra again and thus his career may actually blossom more as a lightweight. Matt Hughes will undoubtedly win bet the farm on it.
by Kevin Kelly on Aug 15, 2007 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dont be starting that train.
I know I apologised for saying it elsewhere. It’s just my opinion, well suspicion, slanderous yes, but if he does prove me right I’ll show little mercy. I know you can’t just throw names out there like that but to be honest I reckon at least half them are on something in order to get an edge.
P.S. I said Sherk was a prime candidate for a positive test to a friend a couple of weeks before 73! And Baroni years ago. What about Mark Coleman, innocent until proven guilty right? Wrong he fucking was definitely no question. What a bellend.
by RobH86 on Aug 15, 2007 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hughes said he and GSP are friends but I’d like to hear that confirmed from GSP. Hughes has bitch slapped GSP in public.
Thats what Im getting at. Hughes has never publicly talked about how bad GSP is or trashed GSP, just this laffing incident which really could be taken out of context… how do you know Sherk didnt tell Hughes a Jesus joke right before the KO?
Not only that GSP has said NUMEROUS times in many interveiws that he and Matt Hughes have a lot of respect for one and other, and are friends..
All the internet ‘knuckleheads’ read into personalities a bit too much.
by Luppers on Aug 15, 2007 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is this forum anti-Hughes or true Matt Serra fans ? If you guys are fans of Serra pray he loses so he can be somewhat of a force at 155 pounds. No one is going to “underestimate” Serra again and thus his career may actually blossom more as a lightweight. Matt Hughes will undoubtedly win bet the farm on it.
What are you talking about? You’re world is about as accurate as a 4 year old throwing a horseshoe…
Also, to re-iterate my point about internet knuckleheadom, look at all the posts in this thread about Hughes’ ‘mind games’ on GSP… when he is talking about the ‘mind games’ on Matt Serra…
by Luppers on Aug 15, 2007 1:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anderson silva quote: "Matt hughes is a dwarf who is full of himself. I guarentee that in his mind knows that at this point in time GSP will beat him at least 8 out of 10 times. Matt stop hating on BJ because yor not even in his skill class. All u can say bad about BJ is his cardio, and that is prolly the easiest aspect of MMA to improve on.
BJ has better striking, submissions, his dexterity is insane, and he comes to fight. I truly believe he fears no one. Matt your title reign is over. I hope serra beats him all the way back to his farm. Y bother winning the title again Hughes, so u can loose it 4 months later to GSP?
Matt hughes may be affective:
But from an entertainers point of view, Id rather see:
BJ, Karo, GSP, Fitch, Sanchez, and maybe even Serra, at least he puts on ju jitsu clinic every time he steps in the cage.
I would love to see BJ(in top condition) vs Hughes part III
BJ Knows he is a great fighter when all someone that hates u can say is u lack conditioning.
No way a well conditioned BJ will ever loose to Hughes.
Id also like to c BJ Penn vs. Serra (what a grappling exhibition that would be)
Prdeiction: Hughes vs serra ( I like serra to pull off the upset)
GSP beat Hughes 8 out of 10 times. Its about 50/50 so i dont see how you come up with that. And its funny how you say Hughes isnt even in the same skill class as Penn when the last time i saw them fight penn did good for 2 Rds then get his face smashed in. Even though Penn was controlling RDs 1 and 2 he couldnt put Hughes away. Ya know why because Hughes had improved since the last time him and Penn fought. Penn is great and all we know that. The real fact of the matter is a stronger Hughes will always beat a weaker Penn. Your “Baby Jay” isnt cut out to be welterweight Champ he better stick to lightweight cuz he has a good possibility that sherk is gonna get stripped of the title. BJ Penn is great he has impressed me on several different ocassions.But i still dont see him beating Hughes again anytime soon.
by Thor1982 on Aug 15, 2007 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sad how everyone makes fun of Hughes, a guy that actually says what he is thinking. I didn’t hear him make every excuse in the book after he lost to GSP.
sure he did. hughes said he thought god wanted him to win so he didn’t try very hard or somehting to that nature.
by bw on Aug 15, 2007 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Even though Penn was controlling RDs 1 and 2 he couldnt put Hughes away. Ya know why because Hughes had improved since the last time him and Penn fought.
I heard that BJ broke his rib in the second round. I think that a rematch would be almost 50/50. These guys are both legends, I bet that a rematch WILL happen.
by 12121212 on Aug 15, 2007 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The only reason he couldn’t fight back was because he injured his rib during the second round. Like I said, Penn would have beat Hughes if it weren’t for that misfortune. Also, Matt Hughes did not break BJ Penn’s rib, BJ broke it while doing one of his flexible moves. I think that after he got tired from the GSP fight, he realized that he needed to be more in shape. Lastly, please know that BJ Penn only had six weeks to train for the fight, when Matt Hughes had a little over three months. BJ Penn will dominate the lightweight division and then move on to the welterweight division AGAIN..
Excuses excuses Penn got beat fair and square. In fact it was Penn that stated he wasnt even really training for the fight. And if the Fight would have went any longer than Rd3 it still would have ended the same way with Hughes pummeling Penns face into the canvas. Bj Penn will Stay in LW div cuz he wont make it in the WW Div its just to strong for him now. Penn is great but overrated because of all the Hype around him. Baby Jay The Prodigy blah blah blah He’s 11-4 with wins over some well known fighters big deal. He’s to on and off again and yeah i can possibly see him being LW champion but i deff dont ever see him being WW champ ever again.
by Thor1982 on Aug 15, 2007 4:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hughes = Grand Douche Bag
Savior = Clueless Child
by Thor1982 on Aug 15, 2007 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man are there a lot of Hughes haters out there, and for such dumb reasons….hes a farmer, hes cocky, he thinks hes a great fighter…lame. I know gsp and Hughes aren’t good friends as gsp said he would NEVER fight a friend and he said he wanted to destroy Matt Hughes. I believe they like each other over all, and in a general sense have respect and admiration for each other but there not friends. People are being a little hypocritical towards Hughes, the guy barely says anything harsh against other fighter and is at the bottom end of the totum poll for trash talkers, he never uses profanity and generally only says he ‘s a better fighter than his opponent. Serra has gotten personal and is 10 times the trash talker than Hughes is, why isn’t everyone ripping him apart? Hughes WILL beat Serra again, St.Pierre WILL beat Koscheck and Hughes and St.Pierre will fight again, mark my words. I can’t say for certain St.Pierre will win but I’m certain it will be a much different fight than there last fight.
by nathan on Aug 15, 2007 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thor: the only reason BJ ever looses is conditioning. Thats y I say matt is outclassed against him. Skill wise Hughes isnt even close to BJ. Matts work ethic is better then BJ’s but is that reqally considered a skill?
Stand up goes to BJ
Takedowns goes to Hughes
Ju jitsu goes to Penn (hughes isnt that bad in that area, but they dont call BJ the prodigy for nothing.
Hughes can take BJ down all he wants and then BJ’s dexterity takes over and he stands back up.
No one has ever seen someone get back to their feet when hughes is on top like BJ does.
U can Love houghes all u want. If they came to fight wit equal conditioning it wouldnt even be close.
The 1st time when hughes and GSP fought I would say they would each have won 50% of the time.
Now….. GSP wins 8 out of ten times.
Its kinda like how Silva is in Franklins head after the devestating loss.
When u r used to being dominate for soo long (and someone dominates u) it kills your mental game. Matt was a great champion, we can all agree on that. But today, GSP is a level ahead of him.
Sherk, hughes all have the most trouble taking GSP down.
What can matt hughes do to GSP if he cant take him down.
Thor I agree with many of your postings and I respect your oppinions… but not this 1
by john on Aug 15, 2007 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whatever the case is, his fight against Lytle was unimpressive
by Chris on Aug 15, 2007 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BJ would kill Hughes in a rematch. BEST case scenario for Hughes is a loss in dominating fashion to a unanimous for Penn. BJ almost submitted him from bottom, imagine if BJ got on top again? It would be BJ/Hughes 1 all over again.
by The Anomaly on Aug 15, 2007 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No way he wears gold again what a jerk. Surprised he’s coaching anyone with a piss poor attitude.
by crane wins! on Aug 15, 2007 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thor: the only reason BJ ever looses is conditioning. Thats y I say matt is outclassed against him. Skill wise Hughes isnt even close to BJ. Matts work ethic is better then BJ’s but is that reqally considered a skill?
Stand up goes to BJ
Takedowns goes to Hughes
Ju jitsu goes to Penn (hughes isnt that bad in that area, but they dont call BJ the prodigy for nothing.
Hughes can take BJ down all he wants and then BJ’s dexterity takes over and he stands back up.
No one has ever seen someone get back to their feet when hughes is on top like BJ does.
U can Love houghes all u want. If they came to fight wit equal conditioning it wouldnt even be close.
The 1st time when hughes and GSP fought I would say they would each have won 50% of the time.
Now….. GSP wins 8 out of ten times.
Its kinda like how Silva is in Franklins head after the devestating loss.
When u r used to being dominate for soo long (and someone dominates u) it kills your mental game. Matt was a great champion, we can all agree on that. But today, GSP is a level ahead of him.
Sherk, hughes all have the most trouble taking GSP down.
What can matt hughes do to GSP if he cant take him down.
Thor I agree with many of your postings and I respect your oppinions… but not this 1
Im glad to hear we agree on somethings lol.
GSP only has Striking over Hughes. I dont care what Penn does and even if he trains for 3 months Hughes is always gonna have a good chance at beating him. Because Penn is the physically weaker Welterweight. Hughes who has been ever better at submission def will almost always be able to pull out of anything Penn can throw up. Yeah Penn can punch Hughes in the face for a couple rounds because of the better striking skills roll around on the ground with Hughes and get smashed up against the Fence avoiding the GnP and submissions attempts all while trying to secure his own Submissions. But in the end Hughes will always be stronger and have the better cardio to pull out the win in the later Round. Matt’s Cardio may always be better than Penn’s no matter how hard he trains for it sometimes thats just the way it is. Hughes prob knows penn gases so he capitalizes on it. Like i said ive been impressed by Penn on several ocassions and he is deff one of the best and i like him as a fighter. I just dont see him being the WW champ again unless the Div seriously thins out.
by Thor1982 on Aug 15, 2007 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BJ would kill Hughes in a rematch. BEST case scenario for Hughes is a loss in dominating fashion to a unanimous for Penn. BJ almost submitted him from bottom, imagine if BJ got on top again? It would be BJ/Hughes 1 all over again.
Almost i guess only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.
by Thor1982 on Aug 15, 2007 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
THor: Matt does take BJ down often, but have u seen anyone get up from a take down like BJ. Strength isnt what wins a fight. If that was the case then rampage would beat everyone. BJ is a great fighter, 1 of the best in the world, and the proof of thjat is that no 1 on this blog has ever found a flaw in BJ’s game except for his conditioning.
We can argue about BJ and Matt all day, but who really cares, its GSP time now.
Lets agree to disagree n sit back n enjoy some upcomming welterweight battles
by john on Aug 16, 2007 8:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thor: the only reason BJ ever looses is conditioning. Thats y I say matt is outclassed against him. Skill wise Hughes isnt even close to BJ. Matts work ethic is better then BJ’s but is that reqally considered a skill?
Stand up goes to BJ
Takedowns goes to Hughes
Ju jitsu goes to Penn (hughes isnt that bad in that area, but they dont call BJ the prodigy for nothing.
Hughes can take BJ down all he wants and then BJ’s dexterity takes over and he stands back up.
I don’t know there JOHN. BJ didn’t have a very easy time standing back up against Hughes towards the end of their last fight. And Matt’s raw brute stength allows him to muscle his way out of a lot of submissions. Strength ain’t going to help when you’re getting RNC’d, but you can see the point I’m making.
Skill means NOTHING if you can’t apply it. And in order to apply your skill, you must train hard – which are simply other words for ‘a good work ethic’.
So your comment:
“the only reason BJ ever looses is conditioning. Thats y I say matt is outclassed against him. Skill wise Hughes isnt even close to BJ. Matts work ethic is better then BJ’s but is that reqally considered a skill?”
REALLY doesn’t make ANY sense.
by ViolentMike on Aug 16, 2007 9:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anderson silva quote: "Matt hughes is a dwarf who is full of himself. I guarentee that in his mind knows that at this point in time GSP will beat him at least 8 out of 10 times. Matt stop hating on BJ because yor not even in his skill class. All u can say bad about BJ is his cardio, and that is prolly the easiest aspect of MMA to improve on.
BJ has better striking, submissions, his dexterity is insane, and he comes to fight. I truly believe he fears no one. Matt your title reign is over. I hope serra beats him all the way back to his farm. Y bother winning the title again Hughes, so u can loose it 4 months later to GSP?
Matt hughes may be affective:
But from an entertainers point of view, Id rather see:
BJ, Karo, GSP, Fitch, Sanchez, and maybe even Serra, at least he puts on ju jitsu clinic every time he steps in the cage.
I would love to see BJ(in top condition) vs Hughes part III
BJ Knows he is a great fighter when all someone that hates u can say is u lack conditioning.
No way a well conditioned BJ will ever loose to Hughes.
Id also like to c BJ Penn vs. Serra (what a grappling exhibition that would be)
Prdeiction: Hughes vs serra ( I like serra to pull off the upset)
..Totally agree.
by PhilQNY on Aug 16, 2007 9:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im curious about what u all think. If Bj and Matt part III happens and they both enter the fight wit the same conditioning, what would be the result?
by john on Aug 16, 2007 10:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know there JOHN. BJ didn’t have a very easy time standing back up against Hughes towards the end of their last fight. And Matt’s raw brute stength allows him to muscle his way out of a lot of submissions. Strength ain’t going to help when you’re getting RNC’d, but you can see the point I’m making.
Skill means NOTHING if you can’t apply it. And in order to apply your skill, you must train hard – which are simply other words for ‘a good work ethic’.
So your comment:
“the only reason BJ ever looses is conditioning. Thats y I say matt is outclassed against him. Skill wise Hughes isnt even close to BJ. Matts work ethic is better then BJ’s but is that reqally considered a skill?”
REALLY doesn’t make ANY sense.
Didn’t something happen to BJ at the end of their last fight that took him out of the fight? It’s been a while since I saw the fight, but I remember BJ making Matt look silly for the first 2 rounds and then something happening at the end of the second round or beginning of the third(broken rib or something), and BJ pretty much becoming useless because he was in so much pain.
BJ of course didn’t use it as an excuse, because even though he is cocky, he is still classy.
by Matt on Aug 16, 2007 10:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I too would love to see hughes vs penn 3, to shut every one up.
by nathan on Aug 16, 2007 10:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t something happen to BJ at the end of their last fight that took him out of the fight? It’s been a while since I saw the fight, but I remember BJ making Matt look silly for the first 2 rounds and then something happening at the end of the second round or beginning of the third(broken rib or something), and BJ pretty much becoming useless because he was in so much pain.
BJ of course didn’t use it as an excuse, because even though he is cocky, he is still classy.
No he didnt use it(supposed rib injury) as an excuse he just said i didnt train for the fight as an excuse.
by Thor1982 on Aug 16, 2007 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
THor: Matt does take BJ down often, but have u seen anyone get up from a take down like BJ. Strength isnt what wins a fight. If that was the case then rampage would beat everyone. BJ is a great fighter, 1 of the best in the world, and the proof of thjat is that no 1 on this blog has ever found a flaw in BJ’s game except for his conditioning.
We can argue about BJ and Matt all day, but who really cares, its GSP time now.
Lets agree to disagree n sit back n enjoy some upcomming welterweight battles
I agree that strength doesnt win a fight and that Bj is a great fighter. But being stronger helps alot expecially when it comes to the ground game. I guess we will see what happens when penn if ever Comes back up to WW and Fights Hughes again. Meantime i agree Deff GSP time and some great WW battles coming up.
by Thor1982 on Aug 16, 2007 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im curious about what u all think. If Bj and Matt part III happens and they both enter the fight wit the same conditioning, what would be the result?
Will never happen as Bj will never have Hughes’s cardio. But John if it does happen look for a repeat of their last fight. But im telling ya he aint coming back up to WW anytime soon.
by Thor1982 on Aug 16, 2007 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How does Bj Penn have his number? Have you seen round 3 of their 2nd fight? Hughes utterly destroys him , standing , on the ground and submitted him with strikes … He just couldnt tap cause he couldnt move…
BJ Penn knows if he doesnt win before round 3 then hes cardio goes too shit… He gassed against Hughes pt2 , GSP , Pulver part 1 etc..
I’ve got a news flash for ya; you can get your arse kicked for all 3 rds of a fight and still win it with a KO/TKO or submission but that does not make you the better fighter because had it gone to decision you would have lost. At best, it means you’ve got heart & can take a beating, nothing more. My point: Hughes won the 2nd fight against BJ but up until that finish was getting mopped up.
by machine on Aug 16, 2007 3:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Serious question, (even though I know it sounds like a joke) is Matt Hughes one of those religious weirdos who doesn’t believe in the principal of evolution, I may very well be mistaken, but I thought I heard it somewhere. Can anyone answer that? It would be much appreciated.
by RobH86 on Aug 16, 2007 11:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Serious question, (even though I know it sounds like a joke) is Matt Hughes one of those religious weirdos who doesn’t believe in the principal of evolution, I may very well be mistaken, but I thought I heard it somewhere. Can anyone answer that? It would be much appreciated.
Im pretty sure Hughes doesnt believe in the theory of Evolution as he is a devout Christian. I dont know this for a fact just a guess. I do know for a fact that he is a devout christian so its an easy deduction that he doesnt believe in evolution. Darwins theories i think are considered Blasphemy in Christianity.
by Thor1982 on Aug 17, 2007 1:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thor: the only reason BJ ever looses is conditioning. Thats y I say matt is outclassed against him. Skill wise Hughes isnt even close to BJ. Matts work ethic is better then BJ’s but is that reqally considered a skill?
Yes, and apparently a very important one.
by Gord on Aug 17, 2007 1:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im curious about what u all think. If Bj and Matt part III happens and they both enter the fight wit the same conditioning, what would be the result?
BJ wins, but that is a big if , for BJ to get his conditioning to the level of Matt’s(which is one of the best in the game). It’s easier said than done,when you grow up in a wealthy family, having everything come easy it’s hard to develope a good work ethic. It’s something money can’t buy,in fact it something money can deter.
by Gord on Aug 17, 2007 2:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im curious about what u all think. If Bj and Matt part III happens and they both enter the fight wit the same conditioning, what would be the result?
John, that is pretty much the whole point of this arguement.
BJ PENN WILL NEVER EVER HAVE THE SAME CONDITIONING AS MATT HUGHES – Especially at 170 lbs.
I agree, BJ did look pretty dominate in the first round and a half or so, but that’s because Matt wasn’t completely fighting as the Matt Hughes of old. (He has really been trying new things out. He needs to stick with what made him the best WW champ in MMA history.) So if they were to ever fight again for the WW belt, even if BJ wins the first 2 rounds, it won’t even matter because he won’t be able to submit Hughes (except for RNC) in those 2 rounds, or any round for that matter. And then Hughes’s will put his superior conditioning on display and finish BJ off by GnP TKO before the end of round 4.
by ViolentMike on Aug 17, 2007 9:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ve got a news flash for ya; you can get your arse kicked for all 3 rds of a fight and still win it with a KO/TKO or submission but that does not make you the better fighter because had it gone to decision you would have lost. At best, it means you’ve got heart & can take a beating, nothing more. My point: Hughes won the 2nd fight against BJ but up until that finish was getting mopped up.
I see your point but in a fight you have to win right to the end. In a street fight what good is kicking some guys arse for 5 minutes only to get tired and then get ko’ed, you’d be seriously screwed. Conditioning is EXTREMELY important, like gsp said what good is the best driver in the world in a sh*t car? He realizes conditioning is a vital base and it is, mainly the reason Hughes wins most of his fights, it sure as hell isn’t his technical skill, bj is much more talented than him in the technical department but Hughes has a major strength and conditioning advantage. Strength to prevent submissions and conditioning to weather the storm and out last his opponents. If penn doesn’t finish Hughes early on I say he loses 9 out of 10 decision fights when there’s 5 rounds.
by nathan on Aug 17, 2007 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
right on nathan, right on.
I still can’t believe that someone said that conditioning is in no way shape or form, a skill. A skill is something you have to train at and work hard to aquire. Conditioning isn’t something that comes naturally either. One must train and work hard on a consistant basis to be well conditioned.
by ViolentMike on Aug 17, 2007 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There now ya see John Conditioning is a skill. And all the what if’s dont change the reality that Matt’s Cardio and stamina is superior to Penn’s. And i stand by my opinion that i dont think Penn will ever have Hughes’s stamina. In the end training and conditioning and building cardio is always a plus and improves stamina a heck of alot but some just have that extra gear and some dont. But dont get me wrong i love watching Bj fight and look foward to seeing more of him in the LW div.
by Thor1982 on Aug 18, 2007 1:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If that is the case(which I don’t think it is) Silva is the wrong direction to run. That’s like running away from the guy with the knife, to the guy with the gun.
funny iwasthinking the exact same thing.i’m thinking he can’t beat gsp,can’t beat bj,would have adiffucult time to beat kos so why leave a division that’s loaded with talent to get his face rearranged by anderson silva. maybe hughes and franklin get a special rate on plastic surgery if they go around the same time! promoting a fighter like sherk is pretty pathetic when the guy just got nailed for using steroids but to say that sherk would beat bjpenn is really going out on a limb.i don’t care how long hughes has been fighting and how much sucess he’s had,i think he’s talking out of his ass!i’d actually like to see hughes fight silva i’d be 1st rd. total destruction.than maybe hughes would realize that there no more place for him in the ufc besides coaching. personally i wouldn’t want to coached by the know it all,even with his successes. ialso doubt that he and gsp call each other up and talk anything.matt has to respect gsp because gsp knocked the shit out of his head,well atleast some of it because it’s obvious ther is still alot of bullshit in there. fight bj,gsp,or even kos but move up to fight silva?
by jel on Sep 6, 2007 7:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I AGREE IT’S GSP TIME NOW!he may have looked up to hughes at one time but how could anyone look up to him now? walking around with his piss poor attitude acting like his shit don’t stink.he’s done!
by jel on Sep 6, 2007 8:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Violent to Mike,
Conditioning is not a skill. Is a distance runner a skilled athlete or a well-conditioned athlete?
Oracle has spoken
by oracle on Oct 26, 2007 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hughes seems a poor cach
Judging from the Ultimate Fighter. He also seems to have had a charisma bypass. Serra has grown on me.
I used to be a huge Hughs fan. The more I see, the more annoying he gets!
by BoomBoom on Nov 5, 2007 7:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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