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UFC 75: 'Dangerous' Dan vs. 'Sloppy' Jackson

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"It's the biggest fight of my [Dan Henderson] career. It's a chance to become an undisputed champion in MMA.... He [Quinton "Rampage" Jackson] has some sloppiness in his game that I can take advantage of. He hasn't looked particularly good in his last two or three fights."

UFC 75: "Champion vs. Champion" features the unification bout between UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Rampage Jackson and PRIDE FC Middleweight Champion Dan Henderson on September 8 at the O2 Arena in London, England. It will be broadcast via tape delay on the Spike television network for free at 9 p.m. ET. To check out the latest UFC 75 fight card click here.

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I could see why Dan would say something like this. Quinton does look sloppy from time to time, and although a great chin it has been tested and dropped. On the other side of things Dan better not confuse sloppiness for unorthodox.

by Stafo on Aug 9, 2007 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Great headline! Sloppy Jackson.

I think Sloppy is going to get KTFO. Henderson is bad ass.

by AdRock on Aug 9, 2007 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

MSNBC? Wow.

by SirMixAlot on Aug 9, 2007 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think Hendo will be able to deal with Rampages size and strength at LHW..Hendo is champion of champions, I just see Page beating him in September.

by PhilQNY on Aug 9, 2007 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

So where is he going to put the 4th belt he gets when he takes Anderson Silvas belt away? haha

1 on each arm, 1 around the waist, 1 cowboy style hanging from his .. .. ..

by Matt on Aug 9, 2007 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I dont think this fight is so cut and dry as he is looking at it. Rampage is sloppy, but one of the most powerful 205lb fighters in the world. Guy can wrestle, box, GNP… GL Henderson, If Rampage starts losing the war on the feet, you’re going to the ground where that big animal is gonna turn you inside out.

by Luppers on Aug 9, 2007 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I dont know. Both fighters have pros and cons. I honestly want to see Quinton exploit Henderson’s weakness’. Its really a toss up fight though. Too close to call. Anything could happen.

by djpullout on Aug 9, 2007 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Henderson has a point. Before the Chuck fight Rampage had an unimpressive fight vs Dong Sik Yoon, what imo was a gift vs Lindland, and a nervous performance against Eastman. I’m not willing to forget all of that, and say he’ll crush Henderson just because he beat chuck. This will be a very close and competitive fight

by Yohnstoppable on Aug 9, 2007 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder what about the Chuck fight Dan found “not so impressive”? He wanted to see blood or something?

by nvandy89 on Aug 9, 2007 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Seems like Dan hasn’t been paying attention. He didn’t look that great against Lindland, but who ever has? He was impressive against Eastman and obviously against Chuck. His striking is dramatically improved, along with his conditioning, and we know he still has some of the best slams in MMA. If Dan is underestimating him, he’s in trouble

by Cocoanutt on Aug 9, 2007 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

dan all the way.

by jason lofty stephens on Aug 9, 2007 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

This is a tough fight to call, but I don’t know if it will be this fight or the next fight, but Hendo is going to get beat and will be sent back to his natural weight class of Middleweight. It is very possible that Hendo can beat Jackson or viceversa, but Hendo will eventually get sent down to Middelweight in September or early next year.

by Red on Aug 9, 2007 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Quinton could not possibly stand with Silva, he got two shots at it, and Dan knocked him the F**K out, So with Stand up rampage has no shot.

by BLOodyMEss on Aug 9, 2007 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Quinton could not possibly stand with Silva, he got two shots at it, and Dan knocked him the F**K out, So with Stand up rampage has no shot.

..Ur right..but who was Page training with?? or what was his gameplan? Page is a different fighter 2day then he was yesterday..Styles also make fights..in this case I feel Page has an edge. We all have to wait and see who shows up to fight that day.

by PhilQNY on Aug 9, 2007 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Henderson is going to need a chiropractor after this fight you kidding me ? Sloppy ? Jackson wins and sends Henderson down to 185 where Dana hands him a tile shot versus Anderson Silva.

Wooo hooo another hand out by Dana and Joe Silva … “Super Matches”

by Kevin Kelly on Aug 9, 2007 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I see Rampage winning the stand up and ground game in this fight , Dan wont be able too handle Rampages explosivness or strenght.

Rampage has a much better chin then Silva also , I dont think Dan can actually knock Rampage out like he did Wanderlei.

by Dayzah on Aug 9, 2007 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

This fight can go either way like most lol. But this on is hard to call. Im going with Hendo just because his confidence is high and Rampage I think will be shaky with his first defense.

by Scott on Aug 9, 2007 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder what he found so “sloppy”?

by UFCGirls.com on Aug 9, 2007 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

This is the fight that I am most looking forward to. I think that it is going to be an instant classic. They will go toe to toe at times, and look to take it to the ground at times.

Wooo hooo another hand out by Dana and Joe Silva … “Super Matches”

Kevin, are you saying that you would object to a Silva/Henderson fight? You wouldn’t consider Dan deserving of a title shot? What would he need to do, fight Martin Kampmann or Okami first, and then get a title shot?

I think that each of the champions in PRIDE that come over to the UFC DESERVE an immediate title shot.

by ViolentMike on Aug 9, 2007 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Kevin, are you saying that you would object to a Silva/Henderson fight? You wouldn’t consider Dan deserving of a title shot? What would he need to do, fight Martin Kampmann or Okami first, and then get a title shot?

I think that each of the champions in PRIDE that come over to the UFC DESERVE an immediate title shot.

I think they should force the fight. One thing I always hated about boxing was that there are like 6 belts in a weight class. It’s redundant and hard to keep track of. 1 organization, 1 belt. That’s how I would like to see it. My opinion might only be shared by me, myself, and i though.

Would be a sad day for Hendo if in 2 fights he lost 2 belts. With Anderson Silva being seemlessly unbeatable in the division right now though, would be good to give him some competition.

by Matt on Aug 9, 2007 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Kevin, are you saying that you would object to a Silva/Henderson fight? You wouldn’t consider Dan deserving of a title shot? What would he need to do, fight Martin Kampmann or Okami first, and then get a title shot?

I think that each of the champions in PRIDE that come over to the UFC DESERVE an immediate title shot.


I Aree except for gomi who i know is not coming over but he would not deserve a shot right away.

by george on Aug 9, 2007 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I could see some sloppy parts in the Eastman fight, but that was the ring jitters as Page said.

But in the Liddel fight, it was far too fast and crisp to say anything was sloppy about it.

by DirtyML on Aug 9, 2007 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I wonder what about the Chuck fight Dan found “not so impressive”? He wanted to see blood or something?

As an expierienced fighter Dan Henderson would know that Chuck lost that last fight because of a mistake he made,the punch he threw is a very simple punch to counter so we realy didnt get to see Rampage fight in his last fight,what I saw though is that Rampage looked extremly nervous and timid and although he was taunting Chuck during the fight he was not willing to go after him,I am sure Dan Henderson has taken notice of these things and more.

by mcanena on Aug 9, 2007 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I dont think this fight is so cut and dry as he is looking at it. Rampage is sloppy, but one of the most powerful 205lb fighters in the world. Guy can wrestle, box, GNP… GL Henderson, If Rampage starts losing the war on the feet, you’re going to the ground where that big animal is gonna turn you inside out.

   It,s not going to the ground hendo likes to keep it on the feet.

by skoler1 on Aug 9, 2007 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

chuck’s my fav. fighter and even I know page will win all dan throws is over hand rights and page blocks hes self D*** good and page is biger and when is he sloppy???yea his eastman fight wasnt that good cuz he was nervus and I dont see dan pullin thise off

by KOOLGUY on Aug 9, 2007 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve been watching old Henderson and Jackson fights from the PRIDE days via UFC-On-Demand. Even in Jackson’s so-called “sloppier” days, he was a tidal wave. Henderson was also a force to be reckoned with. I agree with PhilQNY that Rampage is a different fighter today, training harder, and more focused.

I find it interesting that Henderson would mention Rampage’s last couple or three fights, since the last one (against Liddell) was practically over before it began. The fight before that was Jackson’s first in the octagon. So he must be referring to his last fight before his debut in UFC.

Even with Henderson’s past experience in the octagon, that was many moons ago. Things have changed significantly since then.

This fight is not an easy one to call at all. I am leaning slightly toward Ramage, by TKO. But I’m still basically on the fence.

by MMACrossfire on Aug 9, 2007 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

It,s not going to the ground hendo likes to keep it on the feet.


 N so does rampage!!!!!!!!

by skoler1 on Aug 9, 2007 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I am going to UFC75 and I am not sure who Im gonna be rootin for in the main event,I like Rampage and Dan Henderson so I guess Il just see how the fight goes but I have a feeling its gonna be an exciting fight.
One things for sure though Il be rootin for Bisping and Crocop and I am sure they are both gonna win(hopefully in spectacular fashion)and then I can just relax for the last fight,take in the atmosphere and may the best man win.
The o2 aren where its at is just spectacular,they have definatly chose the best place in the world to hold it.

by mcanena on Aug 9, 2007 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think Hendo will be able to deal with Rampages size and strength at LHW..Hendo is champion of champions, I just see Page beating him in September.

 Yoo oubiously havent seen him fight(henderson)he’s fought heaviweights way bigger than him. Like noguera although he did loose by submission , he was caving nog’s head in thats why nog took it to the ground like many of his other fights he cant stand up with strikers like Henderson.

by skoler1 on Aug 9, 2007 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I Aree except for gomi who i know is not coming over but he would not deserve a shot right away.


Gomi is pretty durn good and the current Pride champ. Why wouldn’t he deserve the shot? He busted up Nick Diaz pretty good and just got sloppy in the end. I don’t know if they ruled that a no-contest or disqualification after the drug test but Gomi did not lose it.

by Mamas Boy on Aug 9, 2007 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Hendo will take this one. How it will end is anybodys guess. Hendo is MMA. He is a great fighter and I don’t see him losing to Jackson. However this match will decide a lot of matches to come. Liddell vs. Silva? Hendo vs. Liddell? Silva vs. Jackson III? Not to mention fighters like Forrest Griffin and Ryoto Machida moving forward in the division. And let us not forget the impressive Houston Alexander. Deep talent pool in the 205.

by Fookin' God on Aug 9, 2007 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Jackson by TKO in Rd 3

by AaronW on Aug 9, 2007 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I honestly think that Hendo has a better chance with anderson silva then Quinton jackson.

by djpullout on Aug 9, 2007 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I think he’d beat Silva. Rampage is going to edge him out though.

by AaronW on Aug 9, 2007 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m not really a Dan Henderson fan (nor do I particularly dislike him), but I think that he is correct and he will take down Rampage via TKO.

by KneeToTheFace on Aug 9, 2007 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Yoo oubiously havent seen him fight(henderson)he’s fought heaviweights way bigger than him. Like noguera although he did loose by submission , he was caving nog’s head in thats why nog took it to the ground like many of his other fights he cant stand up with strikers like Henderson.

…I have ton of footage on any1 who’s anybody in MMA to date..I know Hendo has fought bigger and heavier fighters then himself, but I doesn’t change my opinion on this match up. Rampage is a dangerous treat at this time..he has by far the sickest core strentgh I ever seen in MMA. Now mix in his training camp which isn’t the same as it was a while back..his growing confidence..he will go in there to tear Hendo up as Hendo wants to do the same to him. what happens if Hendo gets knockd out by a slam or knee, elbow, etc..it can happen both ways. I feel Page is going to overwelm Hendo..and shock a few more people..but not me.

by PhilQNY on Aug 9, 2007 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Question 1: Has anyone ever seen Rampage’s skill on his back?
 Cause I’ve watched a lot of his fights, and I don’t remember him ever getting taken down. Henderson has the skill to take him down, and prolly mount him.

Question 2: Don’t you think Hendo has a better shot against Rampage than Anderson Silva?
 Rampage is a very straight forward fighter, no bullshit and all heart, Anderson Silva on the other hand, yeesh, he might pull a rabbit out of a hat and knock you out with a spinning elbow all in the same move.

Question 3: Don’t you think that everyone who is a top contender or belt holder is going to try to jump around at weight classes just because Hendo did it? Hehehe

by Hoodlum on Aug 9, 2007 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Question 1: Has anyone ever seen Rampage’s skill on his back?
Cause I’ve watched a lot of his fights, and I don’t remember him ever getting taken down. Henderson has the skill to take him down, and prolly mount him

if kevin randelman could not take him down than I cant see hendo takin him down….not sayin he wont I just dont see it happnin

by KOOLGUY on Aug 9, 2007 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

PhilQNY…..

Im right there with you. I honestly think Jackson will win and agree with you 100%.

by djpullout on Aug 9, 2007 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Put it too you thus way guys, if Hendo was the same size as Quinton I think he’d cane him. However since he’s not, Quinton will have to use the size advantage. Should be damn good. Oh and I’m going can’t wait!

by RobH86 on Aug 9, 2007 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m mostly on the fence for this one. Both guys are great fighters, both seem to be great guys. Rampage is a bit of a clown (not the assclown variety, just silly), but that’s alright, he’s entertaining at the same time. Hendo seems to be in the Couture realm of just flat out being a good guy. I think both are going to bring it and that it will most likely end in spectacular fashion…I expect fireworks. I give a small edge to Hendo, but I would not be at all suprised if Rampage wins as well.

What would suprise me is if it goes past round three…combined there’s probably enough dynamite in each of their collective bodies to blow the roof off the place, only a matter of time before someone lands a clean shot and the other drops…maybe not KO, but to set up a TKO…both have pretty solid chins. I can’t wait!

by Dabashire on Aug 9, 2007 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Any fight in which both guys have great knockout power, is incredibly difficult to call.

by Keith on Aug 9, 2007 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I think I am more excited about this fight than Chuck vs Rampage. What I can’t believe is DH is going straight into the cage with title shot. No warm up fight and to fight a guy like RJ… Man that is ballsey. Rampage had at least one warm up fight.

Both these guys have plenty of experience in the ring to make this one exciting fight. Although potentially I see the fight could go either way, I think RJ is going to get caught with a punch that ends it. DH has pretty good take down defense so I don’t see it going to the ground real easy.

by Grembone on Aug 9, 2007 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I say Jackson by tko, i know eaither way this fight is going to be bad ass

by thenovemberact on Aug 9, 2007 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Rampage sloppy haha, i hope Rampage smashes his face in.

by Damaged on Aug 9, 2007 6:54 PM EDT reply actions  

dan has that right hand if you get hit i don`t care who you are your going down

by ronnie on Aug 9, 2007 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Well see what he says when he takes a “sloppy” right hook.I like dan but hes gonna get his ass whooped and then go to middleweight.Hes getting knocked out!!

by owen on Aug 9, 2007 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Alot of trash talking to hype up the fight. You know it won’t be long til Rampage hears this shit, and when he does, he won’t be quiet about it.Hollalulia holla back!!!

by ibread on Aug 9, 2007 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I actually think Dan is the favorite here and should win it. Rampage better train very hard to prove me wrong.

by c-war on Aug 9, 2007 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Go Henderson!

by ShadowoftheDarkgod on Aug 9, 2007 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

guys, hendo has only been finished twice, and that was both against the nog brothers, his only other looses where decision ones.

personally, i think its 50/50, but i dont think size will be much of a factor as people think, considderingg his last fight was at 205 in february and has known this fight would be at 205 for a while, so hes had time to get his weight up decently. rampage is good, buti think if it goes past round 1 hendo will take it, as rampage tends to get sloppy when he’s tired.

by mike on Aug 9, 2007 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Man, I think on the feet, he will crush Hendo, I don’t think there is alot Hendo can do to him. I don’t think this will be a competitive fight at all. I think Hendo will be finished.

by The Anomaly on Aug 9, 2007 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Its not so much a knock on Dan Henderson as it is on Dana White, Violent Mike. I personally would rather see Henderson fight Anderson Silva at 185 pounds where he will probably end up. It just seems to be that White and Silva are too inconsistent when putting matches together. But all in all Im not going to mind watching Quinton Jackson punch a hole through Henderson’s head. Hopefully not literally but you get the point. I think Henderson got fat on life beating down ridiculous KAM A KAZI dudes who guys at your local bar would have no problem standing on the feet against.

by Kevin Kelly on Aug 9, 2007 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

if kevin randelman could not take him down than I cant see hendo takin him down….not sayin he wont I just dont see it happnin

QFT. Randleman has better wrestling credentials than Kos. Henderson is going to have to win this fight standing. I think it’ll be a good fight, but I’m giving Rampage the edge.

by IceMuncher on Aug 9, 2007 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Have u people watch pride. Rampage was murdered by shogun & his ass whooped twice by wanderlai. Rampage is very tough dude but hendo mite be the best fighter in the world (Besides fedor). What hendo did to wanderlai was a piece of art picking him apart & wanderlai is obviously a better fighter than Rampage

by chutebox on Aug 9, 2007 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Gomi is pretty durn good and the current Pride champ. Why wouldn’t he deserve the shot? He busted up Nick Diaz pretty good and just got sloppy in the end. I don’t know if they ruled that a no-contest or disqualification after the drug test but Gomi did not lose it.

Are you kidding….gomi was getting his ass handed to him by diaz….Gomi threw one big power shot that landed…other than that Diaz was landing 4 punches for every 1 sloppy one that Gomi threw…I mean Diaz was dropped from the UFC, he is a B level fighter and whooped the supposed "wonderkid"s ass..Face it Gomi…as many Pride fighters are overated…they just put on great shows…I mean look at Jason von flue…he puts on a great show in the UFC but still loses..maybe he should have gone to Pride where they like that sort of thing

by vera is overated on Aug 9, 2007 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Rampage will destroy Hendo. Too big and too strong.

by Kevin on Aug 9, 2007 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Rampage will destroy Hendo. Too big and too strong.

Word

by The Anomaly on Aug 9, 2007 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope to finally see one of rampages slams in the ufc

by ufcownsme on Aug 9, 2007 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m so glad this is going to be 5 rounds.

by ajadoniz on Aug 9, 2007 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Word

I’ll second that. WORD. Most definitely going to see some slams.

by Mahde on Aug 9, 2007 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Like I said earlier, watching past PRIDE fights on UFC-on-Demand is a good education if you haven’t seen them, and a great refresher if you have. Both Hendo and Rampage look great. Hendo seemed to fight up to his potential, whereas Rampage did not. And he’s said as much. I don’t think we have yet seen Rampage fight up to his potential, except for a couple outstanding instances in PRIDE. This will be the most anticipated fight of his career. And Hendo’s, for that matter. But I have to give the edge to Rampage in this fight.

by MMACrossfire on Aug 10, 2007 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

They both have thier pros and cons but theis fight is too close to call its going to be a good fight

by jimmy on Aug 10, 2007 1:00 AM EDT reply actions  

SIMPLE

RAMPAGE WILL TRAIN BETTER AND HARDER WITH MORE EXPERTISE IN HIS CAMP.

HE WILL BE STRONG AND READY TO GO.

HE IS MUCH BIGGER AND STRONGER (NATURAL WEIGHT 225 VS. 195) AND
HE IS MUCH STRONGER THAN EVEN SOME OF THOSE HEAVY WEIGHTS THAT DAN FOUGHT AT 230 LBS.

RAMPAGE WILL SURPRISE A LOT OF PEOPLE. I THINK HE COULD HOLD THE BELT FOR 2 OR 3 FIGHTS.

BASICALLY UNTIL HE FIGHTS SHOGUN, EVEN THEN. HE IS A BETTER FIGHTER NOW THAN 2 YEARS AGO AND MUCH MORE FOCUSED/BETTER TRAINED.

SHOGUN/SILVA HAVE BEEN IN TRAINING CAMPS SINCE THEY WERE 2 YEARS OLD. RAMPAGE HASN’T HAD THAT TYPE OF TRAINING. AS HIS SKILL IMPROVES, HE RAW ATHLETIC ABILITY (WHICH IS GREATER THAN SHOGUN/SILVA/HENDERSON) WILL MAKE HIM THE SUPERIOR FIGHTER.

RIGHT NOW THE CONTENDERS ARE MORE SKILLED, AS PAGE’S SKILL INCREASES HE WILL BE TOP 2 FIGHTER AT LHW.

by Jason on Aug 10, 2007 1:07 AM EDT reply actions  

For everyone with the “Silva killed Rampage, Hendo knocked out Silva, so Silva will kill Rampage”, a few points.

-Rampage dropped Silva with a punch at the end of round one fight 2, broke out of a sub and took side control as the round ended. If that round was 25 more seconds it could have been Rampage by TKO. Not that Silva didn’t brutally KO him, but don’t act like Silva dominated Q for 13 minutes.

-If you think Silva was at all himself in the second Hendo fight, you’re crazy.

by nvandy89 on Aug 10, 2007 2:19 AM EDT reply actions  

Henderson has a point. Before the Chuck fight Rampage had an unimpressive fight vs Dong Sik Yoon, what imo was a gift vs Lindland, and a nervous performance against Eastman. I’m not willing to forget all of that, and say he’ll crush Henderson just because he beat chuck. This will be a very close and competitive fight

And what did Dan do before he knocked out Silva? Lost a dec. to freaking Misaki, right? Hell, he used to be called decision Dan, remember?

by Noel on Aug 10, 2007 9:54 AM EDT reply actions  

“I’m gon’ whoop Dan’s ass!”

-Rampage

by JRizzle on Aug 10, 2007 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Are you kidding….gomi was getting his ass handed to him by diaz….Gomi threw one big power shot that landed…other than that Diaz was landing 4 punches for every 1 sloppy one that Gomi threw…I mean Diaz was dropped from the UFC, he is a B level fighter and whooped the supposed "wonderkid"s ass..Face it Gomi…as many Pride fighters are overated…they just put on great shows…I mean look at Jason von flue…he puts on a great show in the UFC but still loses..maybe he should have gone to Pride where they like that sort of thing

Gomi did not get his ass handed to him by Diaz. Go rewatch the fight. Diaz was landing more often, while Gomi was landing the more powerful shots. Even when Gomi was gassed there were multiple occasions where he’d tag Diaz, forcing Diaz to clinch. go rewatch the fight

by Yohnstoppable on Aug 10, 2007 10:27 AM EDT reply actions  

For everyone with the “Silva killed Rampage, Hendo knocked out Silva, so Silva will kill Rampage”, a few points.

-Rampage dropped Silva with a punch at the end of round one fight 2, broke out of a sub and took side control as the round ended. If that round was 25 more seconds it could have been Rampage by TKO. Not that Silva didn’t brutally KO him, but don’t act like Silva dominated Q for 13 minutes.

-If you think Silva was at all himself in the second Hendo fight, you’re crazy.

I agree regarding Rampage vs Silva. People remember the end and act like it was a brutal beatdown. The fact remains Rampage was at the least competitive and at the most winning both of those fights until the end. Just because a fighter gets finished does not mean he got destroyed

by Yohnstoppable on Aug 10, 2007 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

And what did Dan do before he knocked out Silva? Lost a dec. to freaking Misaki, right? Hell, he used to be called decision Dan, remember?

A lot of KO’s on his record to call him decision Dan.

by AaronW on Aug 10, 2007 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Its not so much a knock on Dan Henderson as it is on Dana White, Violent Mike. I personally would rather see Henderson fight Anderson Silva at 185 pounds where he will probably end up. It just seems to be that White and Silva are too inconsistent when putting matches together.

White wanted Hendo to fight at 185 in the UFC but he refused, Hendo wanted the LHW fight because of more exposure.

I know you love to hate on Dana White but at least know the whole story before starting the hating.

by pr0cs on Aug 10, 2007 11:07 AM EDT reply actions  

PhilQNY: u r absolutly right. 1st of all did anyone notice how lean n in shape Page looked in his last fight(look at his face). Training wit Juanito seems to be the best thing that has ever happened to Page’s career, his stand up look

by john on Aug 10, 2007 11:12 AM EDT reply actions  

A lot of KO’s on his record to call him decision Dan.

Doesn’t change the fact that his record can be considered just as “sloppy” and Rampage’s. Not to mention the fact that Silva had a fever and was sick as a dog when Henderson fought him.

by Noel on Aug 10, 2007 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

A lot of KO’s on his record to call him decision Dan.

I think the “Decision Dan” was more a knock on some of the decisions as being unfair. Personally I thought Kondo, as well as Bustamante should have gotten the nod over him. I’ve seen quite a few people get upset about the Ninja fight as well, but I haven’t seen that fight since the event first aired, so I can’t really comment on it.

Either way, Dan’s a badass, and will put on a good show

by Yohnstoppable on Aug 10, 2007 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Dan is going to put a beating on rampage. Im Predicting a second round stoppage. I like rampage but he’s not in the same class. This is not going to be pretty.

by George R on Aug 10, 2007 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

hendo all the way

by richard on Aug 10, 2007 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Hendo could win but Page has more ways to beat Hendo. I want Dan to win but his only shot is to outstrike Page or KO him with that monster hook of his. Page could win by KO or on the ground. Hendo has to be very tactical in this fight but also push Page and pressure him.

by Thor1982 on Aug 10, 2007 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

For everyone with the “Silva killed Rampage, Hendo knocked out Silva, so Silva will kill Rampage”, a few points.

-Rampage dropped Silva with a punch at the end of round one fight 2, broke out of a sub and took side control as the round ended. If that round was 25 more seconds it could have been Rampage by TKO. Not that Silva didn’t brutally KO him, but don’t act like Silva dominated Q for 13 minutes.

-If you think Silva was at all himself in the second Hendo fight, you’re crazy.

Exactly, and check out the first Hendo/Silva fight. Silva pretty much had his way with Dan the entire fight. Dan spent half the fight on his back, with Silva standing up and kicking Dan in the ass.

by cmon on Aug 10, 2007 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

For everyone with the “Silva killed Rampage, Hendo knocked out Silva, so Silva will kill Rampage”, a few points.

-Rampage dropped Silva with a punch at the end of round one fight 2, broke out of a sub and took side control as the round ended. If that round was 25 more seconds it could have been Rampage by TKO. Not that Silva didn’t brutally KO him, but don’t act like Silva dominated Q for 13 minutes.

-If you think Silva was at all himself in the second Hendo fight, you’re crazy.

Thanks for pointing that out because I was about to do so myself. It kills me how people have so much to say without ever watching previous fights in their entirety from an objective view. Kudos for breaking this info down & points for knowing what youre talking about. Not that my word is the end-all be-all but just giving credit where its due.

by machine on Aug 10, 2007 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

surprized that anyone thinks dan has a chance

by gasmanshad on Aug 10, 2007 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Rampage!

by MrFye on Aug 10, 2007 6:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I am amazed. This will not be a walk in the park for Hendo. For those of you who think that Hendo can knock out Page with a punch are crazy. Page has the best punch defense in the business and will be looking for that right hook since his NEW trainer is a boxing coach. Dan will not beat him on the feet. He will have to rely on his wrestling but when was the last time Page got submitted? Try 2001 by Saku, and that was the only time he was submitted.

Now I know anything can happen in a fight, but to say that Hendo outclasses Page is ridiculous. The facts seem to point to Page having a distinct edge. I believe the worst thing that Hendo can do is to believe that he can out strike Page who is bigger, stronger, has the better reach, better chin, and who is fighting at his natural weight.

by TheSaint on Aug 10, 2007 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Rampage has never lost a fight where someone stood infront of him and tried to exchange punches. Each time he was knocked out it was by knees. I think once again that will be the only way that he could lose to henderson. And I have a feeling that Rampage has worked on that since the last loss.

Rampage TKO halfway through round 2

by Cody on Aug 11, 2007 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

wtf!!!?? how can anyone think rampage is gonna win the fight dan henderson is an olympic wrestler he has better striking than jackson (Beat wanderlei, wanderlei killed jackson) unless hendo makes mistake like chuck liddel and gets caught in a one punch KO thats the only way i see rampage winning the fight i do not see rampage winning any other way he wont be able to take hendo down thats for sure and hendo will have the better striking so the one punch KO is the only way i see rampage winning his best bet is to swing for the fences

by Jose H on Aug 11, 2007 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I am amazed. This will not be a walk in the park for Hendo. For those of you who think that Hendo can knock out Page with a punch are crazy. Page has the best punch defense in the business and will be looking for that right hook since his NEW trainer is a boxing coach. Dan will not beat him on the feet. He will have to rely on his wrestling but when was the last time Page got submitted? Try 2001 by Saku, and that was the only time he was submitted.

Now I know anything can happen in a fight, but to say that Hendo outclasses Page is ridiculous. The facts seem to point to Page having a distinct edge. I believe the worst thing that Hendo can do is to believe that he can out strike Page who is bigger, stronger, has the better reach, better chin, and who is fighting at his natural weight.

best punch defense?? getting KTFO by shogun showed that…. tym sylvia was bigger, stronger, better everything than randy randy just outclassed him you cant rely on just physical attributes if you look at it …. striking….hendo is the better striker by far just look at rampages fight against wanderlei… hendo knocked wandy the fuck out… wrestling shouldt even be an argument hendo is 10000000000000000000 times the better wrestler……. neither on is a wiz at jiujitsu but hendo also pulls that out… the only thing rampage has is strength and if royce gracie taught us anything is that strength alone wont win a fight

by Jose H on Aug 11, 2007 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

either way it doesnt matter shogun will have the belt early 2008

by Jose H on Aug 11, 2007 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

This one has the makings of “Fight of the Year”. Jackson is not a sloppy fighter, he actually looked great in his two showings in the UFC. Henderson might be more technical, but this is going to be one hell of a war. It doesn’t matter to me who wins, either of the fighters will represent the UFC Light Heavyweight Division with a great deal of pride.

by Ryan Overman on Aug 11, 2007 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Gomi did not get his ass handed to him by Diaz. Go rewatch the fight. Diaz was landing more often, while Gomi was landing the more powerful shots. Even when Gomi was gassed there were multiple occasions where he’d tag Diaz, forcing Diaz to clinch. go rewatch the fight


Who cares, all I can say is it don’t matter, Diaz held his own nicely, and FINISHED Gomi. Thank god that ref was there, Gomi would have passed out and died haha.

by The Anomaly on Aug 11, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

wtf!!!?? how can anyone think rampage is gonna win the fight dan henderson is an olympic wrestler he has better striking than jackson (Beat wanderlei, wanderlei killed jackson) unless hendo makes mistake like chuck liddel and gets caught in a one punch KO thats the only way i see rampage winning the fight i do not see rampage winning any other way he wont be able to take hendo down thats for sure and hendo will have the better striking so the one punch KO is the only way i see rampage winning his best bet is to swing for the fences

Rampage’s striking is a WORLD above Dan’s striking, or should I say Dan’s overhand right.

by The Anomaly on Aug 11, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

best punch defense?? getting KTFO by shogun showed that…. tym sylvia was bigger, stronger, better everything than randy randy just outclassed him you cant rely on just physical attributes if you look at it …. striking….hendo is the better striker by far just look at rampages fight against wanderlei… hendo knocked wandy the fuck out… wrestling shouldt even be an argument hendo is 10000000000000000000 times the better wrestler……. neither on is a wiz at jiujitsu but hendo also pulls that out… the only thing rampage has is strength and if royce gracie taught us anything is that strength alone wont win a fight


You are cleary WAY biased towards Hendo, this second outrageous comment proves that. Hendo Knocked out a practically dieing sick Wandi. Woopdi doo. And about the wrestling. I would bet you ANYTHING his wrestling will be rendered in-effective against Rampage, who can also wrestle. Have you watched many fights before? Have you seen Rampage/linland? Linland is just as good, if not better grappler/wrestler then Hendo, and Rampage handled him nicely, won the positionings anyway.
I’m am surprised anybody is giving Hendo a chance.

by The Anomaly on Aug 11, 2007 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

wtf!!!?? how can anyone think rampage is gonna win the fight dan henderson is an olympic wrestler he has better striking than jackson (Beat wanderlei, wanderlei killed jackson) unless hendo makes mistake like chuck liddel and gets caught in a one punch KO thats the only way i see rampage winning the fight i do not see rampage winning any other way he wont be able to take hendo down thats for sure and hendo will have the better striking so the one punch KO is the only way i see rampage winning his best bet is to swing for the fences

with juanito ibarra as rampage’s boxing coach, his stand up is at its best. henderson cant hang with rampage at 205lbs, 205 is a much more natural weight class for rampage and not for henderson, he’s a more natural 185 pounder. as for silva and rampage again….that would be awesome cause rampage is a complete different fighter than when silva beat him b 4….if you look at silva when he faught sakuraba the 1st time he was really small….then look at him in his rampage fights….that was a big fu@king dude….supplements are not monitored in japan as they are in the states….silva didnt look so lean when he lost to henderson in vegas….all in all….rampage will beat both henderson and silva….if he ever signs with the ufc

by not a casual fan on Aug 12, 2007 2:09 AM EDT reply actions  

rampage will beat both henderson and silva….if he ever signs with the ufc

“IF” silva signs with UFC? You must be a casual fan.

by The Anomaly on Aug 12, 2007 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

“IF” silva signs with UFC? You must be a casual fan.

hey anomaly….when you can show me that wandelei has officialy signed with the ufc….let me know….joey_1_6cav@hotmail.com….regardless….wandelei cant beat rampage now

by not a casual fan on Aug 12, 2007 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

hey anomaly….when you can show me that wandelei has officialy signed with the ufc….let me know….joey_1_6cav@hotmail.com….regardless….wandelei cant beat rampage now

Wand is due to fight in the ufc this december. it was actually announced here on this sight but was 1st confirmed by wand. this news isnt all that new either.

by Machine on Aug 12, 2007 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

You are cleary WAY biased towards Hendo, this second outrageous comment proves that. Hendo Knocked out a practically dieing sick Wandi. Woopdi doo. And about the wrestling. I would bet you ANYTHING his wrestling will be rendered in-effective against Rampage, who can also wrestle. Have you watched many fights before? Have you seen Rampage/linland? Linland is just as good, if not better grappler/wrestler then Hendo, and Rampage handled him nicely, won the positionings anyway.
I’m am surprised anybody is giving Hendo a chance.

Anomaly is right. I’ll take it one step further & say that people should try actually STUDYING a fight as opposed to simply watching it & looking for what you WANT to see.

Jose, a fighter with heavy hands is not the same thing as an effective striker. 2 different things entirely.

by Machine on Aug 12, 2007 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Wand is due to fight in the ufc this december. it was actually announced here on this sight but was 1st confirmed by wand. this news isnt all that new either.

hey there machine….i must not be looking carefully….so could you PLEASE help me find this info you know that i dont….cant find anything on wanderlei in the ufc web site….or about him fighting in december or earlier….he’s obviously not fighting liddell since it was rumored that they would fight in september….but its jardine instead of silva….so hit me up so i know where to look….im one of those i have to see to believe….take it easy

by not a casual fan on Aug 12, 2007 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I so want Hendo to win but i dont see this sloppiness that Dan speaks of. Page can be a f*ckin animal and if Hendo isnt careful its gonna be over in rd 1. I think Hendo is pretty strong but the strength edge deff goes to Page. Dan is deff gonna have to fight this fight smart and try not to get caught. And for the record Wandi wasnt almost dying when Hendo knocked him out. But i do agree that wrestling wont be the way to beat Page unless Hendo does something pretty amazing. Heres hoping Hendo pulls it out gonna be on the edge of the seat type fight screaming at the damn T.V.

by Thor1982 on Aug 13, 2007 1:12 AM EDT reply actions  

….regardless….wandelei cant beat rampage now

 I agree with you there. I would love to see Rampage get revenge, I think he could do it for sure.

by The Anomaly on Aug 13, 2007 4:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Quinton could not possibly stand with Silva, he got two shots at it, and Dan knocked him the F**K out, So with Stand up rampage has no shot.

Theres that MMA math again.

by The Anomaly on Aug 13, 2007 4:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree with you there. I would love to see Rampage get revenge, I think he could do it for sure.

I definately believe that the NEW Page could beat Wand now but a 3rd fight? I’m not sure it’s really warranted. Then again, Herring got to fight Big Nog for a 3rd time so who knows at this point.

I also think that he would do much better when he rematches Shogun. I dont know if he’ll actually beat Shogun which I hope he does but atleast we’ll see more of a battle instead of a one-sided beating.

by machine on Aug 13, 2007 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Its a close fight to call but i believe hendo will get the best of page on his feet and knock him out. Page will not be able to take him down. Hendo trains with couture and lindland. After that hendo will drop to middleweight and have a war with anderson silva.

by kyle on Aug 14, 2007 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

“IF” silva signs with UFC? You must be a casual fan.

well wanderlei signed with the ufc today 17 AUG 07….as for my “IF” he signs….well its done now….hopw he gets ready for rampage

by not a casual fan on Aug 17, 2007 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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