Michael Bisping to train with Rampage Jackson in Big Bear for UFC 75 fight

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(Note: "The Count's" opponent at UFC 75 on September 8 from The O2 Arena in in London, England -- Matt Hamill -- is no longer training with Tito Ortiz and Team Punishment up in the California mountains, according to a recent 411Mania.com interview).
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About time Mikey boy ……..
First step up in class, LHW title about 3 fights away I say
by BISBINGisaMIDDLEweight.. on Jul 24, 2007 9:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder where Matt Hamill is training then. I figured Tito would have him under his wing for his entire career.
by djpullout on Jul 24, 2007 9:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Bisping is arrogant and self centered. I hope Hamill crushes him. I’m sick of Bispings ego. For Bisping to be calling anyone an egomaniac is laughable. Go Matt!
by Shawn burton on Jul 24, 2007 9:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
With Liddell, Rampage, Shogun, Silva and Henderson in the divison it’s quite hard for Bisping to get a shot at the title…
by Madfist Dave on Jul 24, 2007 9:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Bisping is arrogant and self centered. I hope Hamill crushes him. I’m sick of Bispings ego. For Bisping to be calling anyone an egomaniac is laughable. Go Matt!
Its alright Matt didnt hear him
by BISBINGisaMIDDLEweight.. on Jul 24, 2007 9:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chin on Shin is not for him!
Wow, can’t wait for the training footage of him and Rampage before 75. Gonna be some classic one-liners in there from those two.
by CPlan on Jul 24, 2007 9:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bisping is clearly training with Rampage because of his size and strength (Big Bear Cardio too obv), Hamill will undoubtedly be the biggest Light Heavyweight he’s faced… I think it will be a wake up call for The Count, and even if he wins I think he should consider cutting to Middleweight…
by oskarbravo on Jul 24, 2007 9:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hahahahaha. oh my god. you are one cruel man
by djpullout on Jul 24, 2007 9:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Its alright Matt didnt hear him
Giggle.
by Sir Chokemout on Jul 24, 2007 9:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Its alright Matt didnt hear him
I want Bisping to win this bad and I realy dislike Hamill but come on man,dont joke about his disability that kind of talk can bring bad luck.
by mcanena on Jul 24, 2007 9:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder where Matt Hamill is training then. I figured Tito would have him under his wing for his entire career.
Tito got rid of him coz his ego was too much for him,Hamill is back in his home town and Tito no longer wants anything to do with him.
by mcanena on Jul 24, 2007 9:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Bisping is arrogant and self centered. I hope Hamill crushes him. I’m sick of Bispings ego. For Bisping to be calling anyone an egomaniac is laughable. Go Matt!
I guess you’re gonna hate it when bisping destroys hamill. The guy’s not arrogant, he’s british.
by WADZ on Jul 24, 2007 9:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Its alright Matt didnt hear him
Not only that, Tito got sick of training Hamill because he wouldn’t listen.
Just kidding.
How long ago did Hamill stop training with Tito in Big Bear? If it’s recently, this is a huge advantage for Bisbing because he’ll know Hamill’s game inside and out.
by VNDK8 on Jul 24, 2007 9:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hamill left Tito’s camp a while back now, he cited family duties and moved back to Cincinnati.
This is good move for Bisping, Rampage should be able to help hone Bisping’s training and the altitude change should help improve Bisping’s cardio.
While a lot of people complain about this fight (and the UFC coddling Bisping) at least the fight has a story and both fighters are going to want to win convincingly so it should be a war (famous last words on my part).
by pr0cs on Jul 24, 2007 9:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Bisping is arrogant and self centered. I hope Hamill crushes him. I’m sick of Bispings ego. For Bisping to be calling anyone an egomaniac is laughable. Go Matt!
I dont understand how you think that,I just think thats the way British people come across coz of our acsents.
The one weakness I see in Bisping is his lack of belife in himself,he is definitly not an egomaniac,he is down to earth and just comes across as a normal guy,thats why hes so popular over here.
The UFC is going global,theres gonna be alot more British and European fighters in the UFC and less Americans,in ten years from now it will probably be owned and run by the British and all the huge fights will be held in Great Britain.
The first ever MMA true world title unification fight will be held in our great capital city London,that is history being made there.
by mcanena on Jul 24, 2007 9:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not only that, Tito got sick of training Hamill because he wouldn’t listen.
Just kidding.
How long ago did Hamill stop training with Tito in Big Bear? If it’s recently, this is a huge advantage for Bisbing because he’ll know Hamill’s game inside and out.
Here’s Matt’s gameplan inside and out: Throw a few sloppy and weak punches, try for the takedown, hold opponent down and hope to avoid submissions, repeat as needed for 15 minutes.
by PW on Jul 24, 2007 9:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ego and personalities aside, this is a good move for TheCOUNT to do something different. Looking forward to the training footage when ‘All Access’ comes out.
by theFUZZ on Jul 24, 2007 10:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder where Matt Hamill is training then. I figured Tito would have him under his wing for his entire career.
Tito got rid of him coz his ego was too much for him,Hamill is back in his home town and Tito no longer wants anything to do with him.
Really! I haven’t heard anything about that yet. Do you possibly have a link to a story on it??
Bisping is going to benefit tremendously by going to train in Big Bear. Too bad he couldnt train there for more than a month. I wonder if his plan now is to bounce around from camp to camp to try and benefit in many different ways, as opposed to staying and training exclusively in the UK.
by ViolentMike on Jul 24, 2007 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here’s Matt’s gameplan inside and out: Throw a few sloppy and weak punches, try for the takedown, hold opponent down and hope to avoid submissions, repeat as needed for 15 minutes.
That wasn’t the prettiest fight you will ever see. But Hamill was injured and couldn’t wrestle, so he went with his stand up. So answer me this. Who has Bisping actually fought that had a chance in hell of beating him? Haynes? who was completey out of shape. Or how about the Great Elvis Sinosic? And sadly, if Sinosic hadn’t been so tired he probably would have submitted Bisping. Or how about all those great fighters he beat on TUF? Bisping is being spoon fed by the UFC to build him up in the UK as a great fighter. He has beat no one of any value. But when that time comes for him to face a real opponent, he’s in for a rude awakening.
by Tapout Kid on Jul 24, 2007 10:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont understand how you think that,I just think thats the way British people come across coz of our acsents.
The one weakness I see in Bisping is his lack of belife in himself,he is definitly not an egomaniac,he is down to earth and just comes across as a normal guy,thats why hes so popular over here.
The UFC is going global,theres gonna be alot more British and European fighters in the UFC and less Americans,in ten years from now it will probably be owned and run by the British and all the huge fights will be held in Great Britain.
The first ever MMA true world title unification fight will be held in our great capital city London,that is history being made there.
Oh whatever, The British are going to run UFC huh? This is a prime example of why people think you Brits are so Arrogant…
by BLOodyMEss on Jul 24, 2007 10:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh whatever, The British are going to run UFC huh? This is a prime example of why people think you Brits are so Arrogant…
“That’s an insult to England. If your are insulting England, you are insulting the Queen. NOBODY INSULTS THE QUEEN!”
by Matt on Jul 24, 2007 10:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This should be an interesting fight. This should have been the finals of the TUF season that bisping won. Hamil couldnt fight due to an injury. Bisping is clearly the better, and more well rounded MMA fighter, however he is gonna have to deal with hamils freekish strength, and olympic caliber wrestling. Since this is an MMA bout and not a wrestling match, I expect Bisping to win, although it wont be easy. I do not understand people bashing bisping. He is a good, young, charesmatic fighter, with a very promising future in the sport. All of his fights have been exciting. Can’t wait to see him bash Tito’s face in. I strongly believe that he will be fighting Tito sometime within the next year. I believe he is probably one of the most promising TUF winners. I agree that the LHW division in the UFC is stacked with talent, so I dont see him getting a title shot for a couple of years. I firml;y believe that Tito Ortiz will be the first major stepping stone of his career. Since he genuinly dislikes Ortiz, and also because Tito is too afraid to fight any of the elite established UFC and Pride Fighter (Rampage, Henderson, Wanderlei, yes I know he already beat silva but that was ages ago, Shogun, Liddell). He wont fight any of them so he will have to pick on young, unestablished TUF winners like Forrest Griffin, Rashad evans etc. I think this trend will continue and I really see him fighting tITO IN THE UPCOMMING YEAR. hAPPY TO HEAR BISPING AND Rampage training together, I believe it will benefit both of them at the next fight in London
by john on Jul 24, 2007 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This should be an interesting fight. This should have been the finals of the TUF season that bisping won. Hamil couldnt fight due to an injury. Bisping is clearly the better, and more well rounded MMA fighter, however he is gonna have to deal with hamils freekish strength, and olympic caliber wrestling. Since this is an MMA bout and not a wrestling match, I expect Bisping to win, although it wont be easy. I do not understand people bashing bisping. He is a good, young, charesmatic fighter, with a very promising future in the sport. All of his fights have been exciting. Can’t wait to see him bash Tito’s face in. I strongly believe that he will be fighting Tito sometime within the next year. I believe he is probably one of the most promising TUF winners. I agree that the LHW division in the UFC is stacked with talent, so I dont see him getting a title shot for a couple of years. I firml;y believe that Tito Ortiz will be the first major stepping stone of his career. Since he genuinly dislikes Ortiz, and also because Tito is too afraid to fight any of the elite established UFC and Pride Fighter (Rampage, Henderson, Wanderlei, yes I know he already beat silva but that was ages ago, Shogun, Liddell). He wont fight any of them so he will have to pick on young, unestablished TUF winners like Forrest Griffin, Rashad evans etc. I think this trend will continue and I really see him fighting tITO IN THE UPCOMMING YEAR. hAPPY TO HEAR BISPING AND Rampage training together, I believe it will benefit both of them at the next fight in London
Sinosic is a stepping stone to the top 20, Tito is the new stepping stone to the top 10. I have been waiting a LONG time to see Tito just get outwright WRECKED. Like Liddel v Ortiz I.
by Matt on Jul 24, 2007 10:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Being arrogant has nothing to do with just being British. It’s not the accent, it’s what Bisping says. Like Hamill won’t like Shin on chin, or all the other trash talking he does. He’s saying he’s going to knock Hamill out cold, I’ll believe it when I see it. He couldn’t even knock out that human pylon Sinosic. Bisping- overated, spoon fed, arrogant, trash talking, champion never-to-be, will never be the man in the LHW division. No chance.
by Tapout Kid on Jul 24, 2007 10:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Being arrogant has nothing to do with just being British. It’s not the accent, it’s what Bisping says. Like Hamill won’t like Shin on chin, or all the other trash talking he does. He’s saying he’s going to knock Hamill out cold, I’ll believe it when I see it. He couldn’t even knock out that human pylon Sinosic. Bisping- overated, spoon fed, arrogant, trash talking, champion never-to-be, will never be the man in the LHW division. No chance.
I totally disagree. Sure I like Hamill too, but Bisping will probably destroy him. Bisping will look even more impressive when his level of competition increases.
by GriffinFan05 on Jul 24, 2007 10:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bisbing says matt is a step back but when he fough elvis he considered it a great fight
by george on Jul 24, 2007 10:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bisbing says matt is a step back but when he fough elvis he considered it a great fight
I totally agree, Hamill might have potential, but I think Sinosic would decimate Hamill. Sinosic has good BJJ. Submitted the great Jeremy Horn.
by Matt on Jul 24, 2007 11:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I firml;y believe that Tito Ortiz will be the first major stepping stone of his career. Since he genuinly dislikes Ortiz, and also because Tito is too afraid to fight any of the elite established UFC and Pride Fighter (Rampage, Henderson, Wanderlei, yes I know he already beat silva but that was ages ago, Shogun, Liddell). He wont fight any of them so he will have to pick on young, unestablished TUF winners like Forrest Griffin, Rashad evans etc. I think this trend will continue and I really see him fighting tITO IN THE UPCOMMING YEAR. hAPPY TO HEAR BISPING AND Rampage training together, I believe it will benefit both of them at the next fight in London
Hey John, are you serious? Bisping will crush Tito Ortiz, no chance in hell of that happening (and isn’t it funny that Bisping doesn’t like Tito, or Hamill, and probably have the other UFC fighters, but he’s such a nice guy). And to say that Tito is afraid to fight any established UFC and Pride fighters. What are you on? Do you know anything about the UFC. You mentioned Liddell in that group as well. You do know that Tito has fought Liddell two times right? And what does it matter that he beat Silva ages ago, does that not count.So Tito is not suppose to fight anyone who is not a UFC veteran. Time for John to go back to mma school. See you in September John.
by Tapout Kid on Jul 24, 2007 11:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh whatever, The British are going to run UFC huh? This is a prime example of why people think you Brits are so Arrogant…
CHA-CHING! You hit the nail right on the head there BloodyMess.
by ViolentMike on Jul 24, 2007 11:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I respect hammill and what he has overcome to get where he is but i dont think he stands a chance against bisping. Is there anychance that matt is training at jorge gurgels gym in cinci?
I think bisping biggest weakness is his wrestling and now that he is working with rampage i am pretty sure will see great improvement in that aspect of his game. Also some of you guys are saying bisping hasnt fought anybody but who has matt fought jesse forbes and rex holman those two combined dont have as many fights as bisping has. I see bisping winning early by knockout.
by matt on Jul 24, 2007 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This fight doesn’t excite me one bit. Both of these fighters have been set up with easy wins. Bisping definitely has a lot of talent, but he needs to be given a better opponent to show it. Hammill does not impress me at all. I respect his overcoming adversity and all, but he’s just not at Bispings level.
by Mahde on Jul 24, 2007 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“That’s an insult to England. If your are insulting England, you are insulting the Queen. NOBODY INSULTS THE QUEEN!”
your queen can sit on her thumb and twist.
by BLOodyMEss on Jul 24, 2007 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bisping hasn’t fought anybody? Well what the hell is the point of introducing people to various fighters through TUF only to immediately throw them in against Liddell/Hughes/St. Pierre/Sherk and other well established elite fighters just to get destroyed? They have to be built up slowly. TUF is the beginning of their careers, not an automatic pipeline to a title shot, except for TUF 4, but those were already established veteran fighters. Bisping got a 9-fight contract for winning TUF, which he would have done even if Hammill’s candy-ass hadn’t been knocked out of the competition. After he exposes Hammill for the third-rate WEC undercard piece of crap that he is, Bisping will still have six fights left on his contract, plenty of time to work his way up to more and more challenging opponents.
by PW on Jul 24, 2007 11:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bisping by TKO in the 1st. Hammil is awful
by I_did_a_mistake on Jul 24, 2007 11:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Being arrogant has nothing to do with just being British. It’s not the accent, it’s what Bisping says. Like Hamill won’t like Shin on chin, or all the other trash talking he does. He’s saying he’s going to knock Hamill out cold, I’ll believe it when I see it. He couldn’t even knock out that human pylon Sinosic. Bisping- overated, spoon fed, arrogant, trash talking, champion never-to-be, will never be the man in the LHW division. No chance.
Umm. He did TKO Sinosic. After thumping his face for 5 minutes straight until Sinosic couldn’t function. And there was another comment earlier by Tapout Kid saying that Sinosic could have finished Bisping after that solid knee had he not been so fatigued. Well the condition Sinosic was in was a result of the murderous beating he took, from the guard no less. And Bisping recovered pretty quick once they hit the mat. And before you start debating and outright KO vs a TKO by ref stoppage, what’s more impressive, a one-punch knockout or a five-minute thrashing that renders your opponent useless for the rest of the fight. Either way you cut it he knocked out Sinosic, and given Hamill’s tendency to gas and lose his damn mind and start fighting like a crazed, drunken hobo, I think Bisping will hand him his head somewhere in the first round.
by Hardcase on Jul 24, 2007 11:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I finally realized why the UFC wants this fight. Yeah, there’s the history between the two so it will make a good story line, but they are really just looking for some new highlight videos for Bisping.
Put a guy in front of Bisping with zero standup game and is too stupid to use his only skill (wrestling) will equal a spectacular KO for Bisping. I see Hamill starting out by trying to shoot on Bisping from way outside, Bisping easily defends, and then hammers Hamill with strikes as he tries to get back up. Hamill with then try to stand and trade punches… Hamill will be out cold by the end of the first round.
by Matt on Jul 24, 2007 11:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder where Matt Hamill is training then. I figured Tito would have him under his wing for his entire career.
It was hard for Matt to fly out too California all the time from Cincinatti. The thing I don’t get about this though is wasn’t Bisping dogging on Rampage after his fight with Eastman at UFC 67? In his little column that the UFC was letting him do but they took it away probably because he couldn’t stop dogging on people.
by The Legend on Jul 24, 2007 11:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was hard for Matt to fly out too California all the time from Cincinatti. The thing I don’t get about this though is wasn’t Bisping dogging on Rampage after his fight with Eastman at UFC 67? In his little column that the UFC was letting him do but they took it away probably because he couldn’t stop dogging on people.
All Bisping did was repeat what Rampage himself said, that he was nervous and had a lackluster fight.
by PW on Jul 24, 2007 11:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is that all you guys have to say when you dont like a fighter, “he has been spoon fed easy wins!”? Guess what? He has beaten all those easy guys. Makes me laugh when you guys font like someone all you can say is he hasnt beaten someone. Like he should go straight to the top 5 fighters in the world.
I dont like Bisping, but he has beaten everyone put in front of him.
by muto on Jul 24, 2007 11:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont understand how you think that,I just think thats the way British people come across coz of our acsents.
The one weakness I see in Bisping is his lack of belife in himself,he is definitly not an egomaniac,he is down to earth and just comes across as a normal guy,thats why hes so popular over here.
The UFC is going global,theres gonna be alot more British and European fighters in the UFC and less Americans,in ten years from now it will probably be owned and run by the British and all the huge fights will be held in Great Britain.
The first ever MMA true world title unification fight will be held in our great capital city London,that is history being made there.
The UFC will never be owned by a brit and you are lucky that we are even holding fights over there. What do you think Dana is doing it for???? YOUR MONEY!!!!!! The British will not run the UFC. Funny thing is that the only person who could have had a chance was Lee Murray!!
by greggbarrientos on Jul 24, 2007 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
last I heard is that Matt Hamill is training with Rich Franklin in Cincinnati. Also, Matt Hamill just opened his own training center in Utica, NY, called “Matt Hamill Training Center.” Check it out at www.matthamill.com
by epps on Jul 24, 2007 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ll let you guys talk craps about either fighters; I’m just gonna hush it up and put my money on Matt Hamill (simply because he’s an underdog) and see what happens.
by epps on Jul 24, 2007 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Being arrogant has nothing to do with just being British. It’s not the accent, it’s what Bisping says. Like Hamill won’t like Shin on chin, or all the other trash talking he does. He’s saying he’s going to knock Hamill out cold, I’ll believe it when I see it. He couldn’t even knock out that human pylon Sinosic. Bisping- overated, spoon fed, arrogant, trash talking, champion never-to-be, will never be the man in the LHW division. No chance.
I can’t wait till you eat these words. Bisping may very well be the champ one day. Who would have thought that Serra would win the belt…that Couture would beat Sylvia… who could have predicted that Sylva would destroy Franklin so convincingly (I’m talking pre-fight…Sylva has proven that he’s a monster who will not easily be de-throned). My point, fighting is an unpredictable game. I can’t say that Bisping WILL become champion (though I’ll definitely cheer for him), just like I can’t say he won’t become champion. The guy’s got game – there can be no debating that. How he pregresses is anyone’s guess…
Spoon fed?? What up-and-comers don’t receive bouts where they are expected to win? The UFC brass scouts talent, and then tries to develop it. What good would it do if Bisping took on Rampage in his first fight. That would be a no-win situation for Rampage, and Bisping may very well get destoyed. Most young UFC fighters, with potential greatness, are given these sorts of fights. Can anyone name a UFC fighter, who has been signed to a developmental type contract (something like 6-8 bouts), who hasn’t received such fights?
Besides, Hamill may be a threat…
by WADZ on Jul 24, 2007 1:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sinosic is a stepping stone to the top 20, Tito is the new stepping stone to the top 10. I have been waiting a LONG time to see Tito just get outwright WRECKED. Like Liddel v Ortiz I.
Sinosic was a good when for bisping. And I am too dying to see Tito step up against a world class fighter so that he can be destroyed. He is a pussy who talks trash to second teir fighters. An elite fighter wouldnt have even wasted his time fighting a washup ken shamrock like he did. He hasnt beaten a great opponent since Vitor Belfort. Shogun, Wanderlei, Chuck, Brandon Vera, Arona, Rogerio Noguera, sokoudjou, rampage, henderson would all destroy Tito, and I dont think he can duck all of em… so lookin forward to seeing his face smashed… Hopefully Bisping will be the first. Tito has been around for ever, and he still hasnt learned any striking, or ju jitsu… There is no excuse for that. Cardio and pounding people from trhe guard will not cut it ne more.
by john on Jul 24, 2007 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
last I heard is that Matt Hamill is training with Rich Franklin in Cincinnati. Also, Matt Hamill just opened his own training center in Utica, NY, called “Matt Hamill Training Center.” Check it out at www.matthamill.com
I didn’t see annything on his website that said he was training with Rich Franklin but it would be cool that he was.
by The Legend on Jul 24, 2007 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think hamil will win ,but he needs not to try and stand up and use his superior wrestling
by richard on Jul 24, 2007 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
God stop pampering Bisbing give him some good competition so I can watch him get smashed already. I guess Hamill is pretty good and if he can hold him down and shove a forearm in Bisbing’s face all night, i’d be happy with that.
by The Anomaly on Jul 24, 2007 2:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Being arrogant has nothing to do with just being British. It’s not the accent, it’s what Bisping says. Like Hamill won’t like Shin on chin, or all the other trash talking he does. He’s saying he’s going to knock Hamill out cold, I’ll believe it when I see it. He couldn’t even knock out that human pylon Sinosic. Bisping- overated, spoon fed, arrogant, trash talking, champion never-to-be, will never be the man in the LHW division. No chance.
I have to disagree with you about Sinosic,if Sinosic hadnt got lucky in the second round that fight would of been embarrassing for him,did you not see the same fight I did,I swear I saw blood squirt out of Sinosics head at one point,I tihnk Bisping was very disapointed about what happened in that fight but you must of enjoyed it,it was GNP at its best.
by mcanena on Jul 24, 2007 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It doesnt matter who Hamill trains with. In his fights he is just not that agressive he doesnt look like a fighter. Unless someone can teach him how to be a little violent he won’t win. And if you sit back scared are throw some little girl puinches Bisping will knock his head back to Cincinatti.
by Cody on Jul 24, 2007 2:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It seems everyone is about 50/50 in extremes about where Bisping’s career is headed. I guess only time will tell. Im actually very interested in whom he will face next if he wins this fight. Maybe the loser of Rashad and Tito? Either one of those would be nie to watch.
by c-war on Jul 24, 2007 2:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was hard for Matt to fly out too California all the time from Cincinatti. The thing I don’t get about this though is wasn’t Bisping dogging on Rampage after his fight with Eastman at UFC 67? In his little column that the UFC was letting him do but they took it away probably because he couldn’t stop dogging on people.
I think the type of area where Rampage comes from they understand the way British people speak their mind and respect it,at the press conference for UFC70 I think they were exchanging insults to eachother about that but just in a friendly banter sort of way.
I think Bisping and Rampage have a mutual respect for eachother.
Rampage was the first to admit nerves got to him in his first fight.
by mcanena on Jul 24, 2007 2:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Mania,BREAKING NEWS,theres a realy interesting video interview with Bisping talking about Hamill and stuff,he says exactly what I have that Hamill can only take Bisping down,Bisping can submit him from his back,and standing he will destroy him.
This means all Hamill can realy hope for is to pin Bisping and hold him unless his stand up has improved dramaticly.
by mcanena on Jul 24, 2007 3:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Mania,BREAKING NEWS,theres a realy interesting video interview with Bisping talking about Hamill and stuff,he says exactly what I have that Hamill can only take Bisping down,Bisping can submit him from his back,and standing he will destroy him.
This means all Hamill can realy hope for is to pin Bisping and hold him unless his stand up has improved dramaticly.
on ufc.com
by mcanena on Jul 24, 2007 3:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All you Tito fans, probably watch the WWE also. He is a clown like them. All he has going for him is his ground n pound from the guard, and his cardio. He would be better suited for WWE or the Tour D’ France lol. By the way next time, he will lose to rashard
by john on Jul 24, 2007 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont understand how you think that,I just think thats the way British people come across coz of our acsents.
The one weakness I see in Bisping is his lack of belife in himself,he is definitly not an egomaniac,he is down to earth and just comes across as a normal guy,thats why hes so popular over here.
The UFC is going global,theres gonna be alot more British and European fighters in the UFC and less Americans,in ten years from now it will probably be owned and run by the British and all the huge fights will be held in Great Britain.
The first ever MMA true world title unification fight will be held in our great capital city London,that is history being made there.
ufc will never be runned by the brit!!they wouldnt be able to handle it even the fighters cant handle americans i hope hmil crushes bisping on your behalf,all of you brittish are IGNORENT!!
by HAWAIIAN_TAPOUT on Jul 24, 2007 4:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There sure is a lot of man-love and man-hate for Bisping on this one!
When a fighter signs a 9 fight contract, they are not going to even begin facing top 5 opponents until at earliest, their 4th fight. Who from TUF has fought against top competition in thier first few fights? Not counting Nate Quarry because he was a hyped up broken nose waiting to happen. Kenny Florian fought for the title in his 4th fight after the finale. Diego fought Karo in his 4th fight. Forrest did fight Tito in his 3rd fight, but it was debatable if Tito was top 5.
Forrest and Bisping both finished both of their first 2 opponents. But to compare the talent level of Forrest and Bisping’s 3rd opponents is pretty out of line. Forrest got Tito while Bisping got Hammil. I don’t think that there would be much debate over who is more difficult, Tito or Hammil. So I believe that the UFC really is Babying Bisping even more than they did any other TUF star. Dana considers him his cash cow for the UK market.
by ViolentMike on Jul 24, 2007 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bisbing better head to middleweight, too many tough fighters at lhw
by JoMamaChelly on Jul 24, 2007 6:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe with 2 more wins he can get a title shot & some plastic surgery vs silva
by JoMamaChelly on Jul 24, 2007 6:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We all know why Bisbing is going to train with Rampage. It’s not so he can go through some level training or win belts…HOT Asian chicks..plain and simple…HOT Asian chicks.
by tripleainto on Jul 24, 2007 6:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why is Bisping being arrogant just because he thinks he is better and is going to beat Hammil. Bisping is right, once Hammil gets a taste of what Bispings going to dish out he’s going to wish he’d never stepped into the octagon. I would call Bisping arrogant if he went around disrepecting and bad mouthing other fighters, but he doesn’t. Arrogant to me is Joe Riggs and Josh Koschek, but he is nothing like them. He is confident in his ability to take out Hammil, and that is exactly whats going to happen.
by Ade on Jul 24, 2007 7:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There sure is a lot of man-love and man-hate for Bisping on this one!
When a fighter signs a 9 fight contract, they are not going to even begin facing top 5 opponents until at earliest, their 4th fight. Who from TUF has fought against top competition in thier first few fights? Not counting Nate Quarry because he was a hyped up broken nose waiting to happen. Kenny Florian fought for the title in his 4th fight after the finale. Diego fought Karo in his 4th fight. Forrest did fight Tito in his 3rd fight, but it was debatable if Tito was top 5.
Forrest and Bisping both finished both of their first 2 opponents. But to compare the talent level of Forrest and Bisping’s 3rd opponents is pretty out of line. Forrest got Tito while Bisping got Hammil. I don’t think that there would be much debate over who is more difficult, Tito or Hammil. So I believe that the UFC really is Babying Bisping even more than they did any other TUF star. Dana considers him his cash cow for the UK market.
Awesome! First you make sense, then you base your argument on Forrest Griffin. One example. Sounds intellegent to me.
Who did Kos fight in his third fight? How about Joe Stevenson? Silly shit. There’s no “coddling” or “babying” going on here, you just don’t understand how the business of this sport works. Plain and simple.
Bisping by way of technical knockout!!!
by WADZ on Jul 24, 2007 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Mania,BREAKING NEWS,theres a realy interesting video interview with Bisping talking about Hamill and stuff,he says exactly what I have that Hamill can only take Bisping down,Bisping can submit him from his back,and standing he will destroy him.
This means all Hamill can realy hope for is to pin Bisping and hold him unless his stand up has improved dramaticly.
hey it sounds like hammil is going for the SHERK attack.(no roid jokes.lol) The Attack? hold em down for a fifteen minute pin fall, give or take a few minutes of getting beat up to take your opponent down.
by RoB on Jul 24, 2007 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All you Tito fans, probably watch the WWE also. He is a clown like them. All he has going for him is his ground n pound from the guard, and his cardio. He would be better suited for WWE or the Tour D’ France lol. By the way next time, he will lose to rashard
whats that got to do with this fight? Bisping will probably win. But we havent seen Matt fight in awhile so lets hope he’s improved enough to put up a decent fight or possibly win.
by Thor1982 on Jul 24, 2007 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Tito says he’s going to take this guy down and pound him into oblivion many of you cling to his nutsack like a Jenna Jameson (Well I imagine they do a lo of that behind closed doors). A British guy does it and you call him arrogant. You can’t have double standards.
It’s called promoting a fight. What do you expect him to say: “I’m going to dance around like a fairy for a while then extend my fist in his direction only to engage in some manhugging where we will then proceed to roll around on the floor, our sweaty bodies slipping against one another.”
Their fucking fighters, it’s their job to say what they intend to do, not how much they admire and respect this other guy.
Mark Epstein was a much tougher fight than any Bisping has had in the UFC. Check it out.
He’s a proper nice guy. I can also see why Rampage and Bisping get on. They’re really similiar and you probably can’t see it from an unbiased point of few as the vast majority of people here are either American or British.
by RobH86 on Jul 24, 2007 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“I dont understand how you think that,I just think thats the way British people come across coz of our acsents.
The one weakness I see in Bisping is his lack of belife in himself,he is definitly not an egomaniac,he is down to earth and just comes across as a normal guy,thats why hes so popular over here.
The UFC is going global,theres gonna be alot more British and European fighters in the UFC and less Americans,in ten years from now it will probably be owned and run by the British and all the huge fights will be held in Great Britain.
The first ever MMA true world title unification fight will be held in our great capital city London,that is history being made there.”
-mcanena
Brits ruling the UFC over good ole’ Americians? I dont think so.
by jjdnb on Jul 24, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That interview on UFC.com is really good. At the end Bisping goes Matt “the Hammer” Hamill fuck off. You guys will probably take that so seriously. Relax, take it with a pinch of salt.
Of course Bisping is getting easier fights than Griffin, it does make sense from a business point of few. The next fight should be a good step up for him if he wins. I’m not counting my chickens before they hatch.
by RobH86 on Jul 24, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Quintin Rampage Jackson is a joke. He didn’t win against Chuck Liddel because the fight was called to soon. We’ve all seen Chuck Liddel fight fights that were going south for chuck then he started to pick apart his opponent and catch his opponent ending it all. Quintin cought Chuck with a lucky hit, Chuck fell but Quintin didn’t beat him out. That dumb clumsy muther Fer even missed Chucks face when trying to punch Chuck out. Chuck was still defending when the fight was called. As for Bisping I like him. If I were Bisping I’d use this large over grown ape for all he’s worth than find a new training team after UFC 75.
by Palatine on Jul 24, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It just was a bit of a rant, a colourful one with what I thought was a humerous analysis. No offence intended.
by RobH86 on Jul 24, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What is Hamill thinking??Now Bisping is training with Rampage..WOW! Not going to be good for Matt
by Stafo on Jul 24, 2007 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whats that got to do with this fight? Bisping will probably win. But we havent seen Matt fight in awhile so lets hope he’s improved enough to put up a decent fight or possibly win.
Hamill last fought at UFC68 I belive against Rex Holio and although he won,I am worried for him that he thought his standup in that fight meant he was ready for Bisping,he is in for one nasty painfull bonecrushing shock.
by mcanena on Jul 25, 2007 8:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All you Tito fans, probably watch the WWE also. He is a clown like them. All he has going for him is his ground n pound from the guard, and his cardio. He would be better suited for WWE or the Tour D’ France lol. By the way next time, he will lose to rashard
Since when did GnP fighting become a bad thing in MMA? He beat Rashaad last time and this time no penalty will stop him. He’s not the fighter he was a few years ago but Rashaad just ran from him and danced around. Not even a Tito fan but people should at least give him some respect.
by AaronW on Jul 25, 2007 9:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Quintin Rampage Jackson is a joke. He didn’t win against Chuck Liddel because the fight was called to soon. We’ve all seen Chuck Liddel fight fights that were going south for chuck then he started to pick apart his opponent and catch his opponent ending it all. Quintin cought Chuck with a lucky hit, Chuck fell but Quintin didn’t beat him out. That dumb clumsy muther Fer even missed Chucks face when trying to punch Chuck out. Chuck was still defending when the fight was called. As for Bisping I like him. If I were Bisping I’d use this large over grown ape for all he’s worth than find a new training team after UFC 75.
When Chuck’s hands fell away after the second shot or so on the ground he was done, that is when you stop a fight. The next shots would have been undefended and Chuck would have devastated so Big John realized he needed to save Chuck’s ass, which is the refs job.
I love the Chuck fans trying to say Rampage got lucky…how many times does he have to whip Liddell’s ass to prove it? 2-0 now, 3-0 if they fight again which I don’t think will happen.
by AaronW on Jul 25, 2007 9:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Awesome! First you make sense, then you base your argument on Forrest Griffin. One example. Sounds intellegent to me.
Who did Kos fight in his third fight? How about Joe Stevenson? Silly shit. There’s no “coddling” or “babying” going on here, you just don’t understand how the business of this sport works. Plain and simple.
Bisping by way of technical knockout!!!
LOL. How many examples did you want me to use here WADZ??? My second paragraph was simply comparing the paths or arguably the two most popular TUF winners. I believe that Tito Ortiz is the toughest opponent any TUF alumni has faced in their 3rd fight. Hence, I said, “Who from TUF has fought against top competition in thier first few fights?”
But anyway, I suppose I’ll use your suggestions.
Joe Stevenson – He LOST his first post TUF fight to Josh Neer, and that’s why he fought Dokonjonosuke Mishima in his 3rd fight, and derervedly so.
Josh Koscheck – He LOST his 2nd post TUF fight against Drew Fickett. That would probably be why he fought Ansar Chalangov in his 3rd fight.
Your two examples prove NOTHING. Of course a fighter that has a 1-1 record in the UFC isn’t going to fight against top talent. I was talking about TUF alumni that were climbing the ladder, which would mean that they were on a winning streak upon entering the UFC.
by ViolentMike on Jul 25, 2007 9:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
According to this picture I can tell they are trainig just like me every weekend
by Donner on Jul 25, 2007 11:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Quintin Rampage Jackson is a joke. He didn’t win against Chuck Liddel because the fight was called to soon. We’ve all seen Chuck Liddel fight fights that were going south for chuck then he started to pick apart his opponent and catch his opponent ending it all. Quintin cought Chuck with a lucky hit, Chuck fell but Quintin didn’t beat him out. That dumb clumsy muther Fer even missed Chucks face when trying to punch Chuck out. Chuck was still defending when the fight was called. As for Bisping I like him. If I were Bisping I’d use this large over grown ape for all he’s worth than find a new training team after UFC 75.
I gotta disagree with you there,Chucks my favourite fighter but if you watch the replay Chuck went limp,he was out,it was definitly a lucky punch but he wouldnt have had the chanse to land it if Chuck hadnt led with a bodyshot the way he did,what ever way you look at it Rampage won,but it would be nice to see a rematch where Chuck wouldnt make that mistake.
by mcanena on Jul 25, 2007 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well, it’s hardly a mistake when Rampage KO’d Chuck Liddell twice already. Perhaps, Rampage is just better even if Chuck didn’t make any mistake hm?
by epps on Jul 25, 2007 2:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I gotta disagree with you there,Chucks my favourite fighter but if you watch the replay Chuck went limp,he was out,it was definitly a lucky punch but he wouldnt have had the chanse to land it if Chuck hadnt led with a bodyshot the way he did,what ever way you look at it Rampage won,but it would be nice to see a rematch where Chuck wouldnt make that mistake.
What fight where you wacthing?
by bigdiesel on Jul 25, 2007 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Bisping is arrogant and self centered. I hope Hamill crushes him. I’m sick of Bispings ego. For Bisping to be calling anyone an egomaniac is laughable. Go Matt!
not in a million years, Hamill sucks,
i got it Machida vs Bisping, that would shut him up
by thenovemberact on Jul 25, 2007 6:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cool picture. That was after 72 wasn’t it, I was there, man those guys are huge but Bisping is not 6"2. Certainly didn’t look like he could make mw mind.
by RobH86 on Jul 25, 2007 6:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah Rampage has a huge head too. I think we’re talking Tito proportions here lol. Must be why he can take such a good punch. Iron jaw.
by RobH86 on Jul 25, 2007 6:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey John, are you serious? Bisping will crush Tito Ortiz, no chance in hell of that happening (and isn’t it funny that Bisping doesn’t like Tito, or Hamill, and probably have the other UFC fighters, but he’s such a nice guy). And to say that Tito is afraid to fight any established UFC and Pride fighters. What are you on? Do you know anything about the UFC. You mentioned Liddell in that group as well. You do know that Tito has fought Liddell two times right? And what does it matter that he beat Silva ages ago, does that not count.So Tito is not suppose to fight anyone who is not a UFC veteran. Time for John to go back to mma school. See you in September John.
Time for Tito to beat a top 10 fighter.
by john on Jul 25, 2007 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When Chuck’s hands fell away after the second shot or so on the ground he was done, that is when you stop a fight. The next shots would have been undefended and Chuck would have devastated so Big John realized he needed to save Chuck’s ass, which is the refs job.
I love the Chuck fans trying to say Rampage got lucky…how many times does he have to whip Liddell’s ass to prove it? 2-0 now, 3-0 if they fight again which I don’t think will happen.
Rampage has chucks number. We all love chuck but give rampage his credit he finished him twice already. Cant wait to see Rampage’s 1st slam in the UFC…..
by john on Jul 25, 2007 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Since when did GnP fighting become a bad thing in MMA? He beat Rashaad last time and this time no penalty will stop him. He’s not the fighter he was a few years ago but Rashaad just ran from him and danced around. Not even a Tito fan but people should at least give him some respect.
The fight didnt end with Rashad running from Tito… not to mention Tito seemed to have his tail beatween his legs at the post fight press confrence. GnP is great, however with today’s well rounded mma fighters, I dont think Tito measures up to most of the top 10 fighters. I guess my point is tito’s game hasnt eveolved much since the beginning of his career. Can anyone honestly say Tito can beat chuck, wandy, rampage, Shogun? I doubt it, hopefully we will get a chance to c 4 ourselves?
I wanna know what people think about how Tito measures up to shogun, rampage, wandy, henderson, Verra, chuck? well we all know how he measures up wit liddell lol. Please let me know what you guys think
by john on Jul 25, 2007 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tito got rid of him coz his ego was too much for him,Hamill is back in his home town and Tito no longer wants anything to do with him.
Hammil wasn’t listening to… oh wait, that’s old already.
by Mamas Boy on Jul 26, 2007 7:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha rampage got lucky.. it makes me laugh did you actually watch the fight chuck shit his pants from rampage, rampage was jus walkin him down. and i wouldnt call it luck that was a very well timed counter punch which actually shown me that chuck could dish punishment out but couldnt take it.
also i dont think rampage is big headed he is just a funny guy
by ufcaddict on Jul 26, 2007 8:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hammil wasn’t listening to… oh wait, that’s old already.
Oh please. Hamill has a daughter in Utica, NY. So, he can’t really afford to fly over to Big Bear in California all the time. Not because he wasn’t listening. They’re still on good terms. Tito understands Hamill has a daughter. I cannot respect people who jump to stupid conclusions without presenting any facts to their argument.
by epps on Jul 26, 2007 8:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha rampage got lucky.. it makes me laugh did you actually watch the fight chuck shit his pants from rampage, rampage was jus walkin him down. and i wouldnt call it luck that was a very well timed counter punch which actually shown me that chuck could dish punishment out but couldnt take it.
also i dont think rampage is big headed he is just a funny guy
Rampage wasnt walking Chuck down,Chuck was waiting for Rampage to come at him so he could counter punch,Rampage wasnt going for that one,Rampage taunted Chuck,Chuck got sloppy led with a body shot Rampage countered and caught Chuck flush.
Rampage beat Chuck at his own game as much as Gonzaga beat Crocop at his own game.
I think Chuck deserves another shot at Rampage and I know he can beat him,I believe circumstances have led to Chuck underestimating Rampage twice,belive me when I tell you if Chuck was so nervous about fighting Rampage he would of never lead with a bodyshot like that,
leading with a bodyshot the way Chuck did that time is a horible move coz even if your opponent is badly hurt,your chin is wide open and your opponent will not be KOed and they still have the ability to counter.
by mcanena on Jul 26, 2007 11:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rampage said himself on a TV interview that he thought Chuck had underestimated him both times they fought and that it was a lucky punch.
It was a perfectly timed counter punch but the fact that Rampage swung it so wildly and it landed on the tip of Chucks chin to give maximum snap of the neck makes it a lucky punch in my mind and its definitly a fight that needs to happen again.
by mcanena on Jul 26, 2007 11:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Rampage set him up for the fall and Chuck didn’t fight his own gameplan. But I do think Rampage can do the hattrick over Chuck.
by RobH86 on Jul 26, 2007 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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