UFC Quick Quote: Dana White responds to UFC 73 steroidabuse

i guess dana’s waiting for sherk’s appeal to fall through b4 he strips him of the belt

I just want to know whats taking so long strip it right know and if he is cleared give it back no harm done but i dont like shrek but i don’t believe he would do that i’ve been follwing him for a while cause he gives me insperation to work out eat right etc. but hey shit happens and i just hope bj stays at lightweight so he can join the likes of r.c as in the only two men to hold belts in different weightclasses

yea maybe or he wont take it away and im gonna be so pissed

I have said it before and I’ll say it again, mma is riddled with steroids. A huge number of american fighters take them. Now I’m not trying to attack american fighters it’s just the stigma of steroids seems less in the states.

The ‘real’ fighters are CC, Fedor, Bisping, BJ, GSP, Chuck, Florian, Anderson Silva and many others.

I mean c’mon as nice a guy as he is, is anyone really surprised that Sherk tested positive. (Franca was surprising).

Some people will do anything to achieve their dreams. Sad.

just give penn the belt. Or if you want to make it fair have him beat up florian or some other guy that has no chance against him. The only lightweight that has a chance against bj is sherk. BUT ONLY IF SHERK IS ONLY STEROIDS.

We’ll see how devoted to the rules Dana White is depending on how he handles the Sherk situation.

I find it humorous that the UFC still hasn’t released this news on their official website.

I find it humorous that the UFC still hasn’t released this news on their official website.

It’s on there — the link to the story is in this post. That’s where I got the “Quick Quote.”

I see, thanks. I just expected it to be a headline, which it is not.

wonder if the “Ranpage” Jackson test has come back yet…although, something tells me he wouldnt.

if sherk loses the appeal, the belt will have to be stripped. Aside all else, there’s no way they’d put a title fight on hold for an entire year!

I see, thanks. I just expected it to be a headline, which it is not.

That’s something Dana wants to keep in the small print.

At least if they don’t strip the belt were used to waiting a year between light weight title defenses. Just thinking positive.

Its almost comical that these fighters think they can get away with it exspecially as high profile as that fight was. What the hell are they thinking or are they even thinking at all. You hear of fighters getting caught but yet there seems that no one learns from other fighters mistakes. There doesnt seem to be a shortage of users and thats just really sad. They need to put some severe punishment in effect to discourage this. Cuz the suspensions and sh1t arent enough obviously.

if sherk loses the appeal, the belt will have to be stripped. Aside all else, there’s no way they’d put a title fight on hold for an entire year!

I think it should be stripped and ur right i dont think they would put it on hold for a year.

if sherk loses the appeal, the belt will have to be stripped. Aside all else, there’s no way they’d put a title fight on hold for an entire year!

i agree also. i cant see the ufc putting the title on hold for a year either. personally i would like to see b.j vs huerta. i know huerta is still to green, but b.j vs stevenson,florian, or din thomas again just dosen’t wet my whistle. i actually think b.j should move back up to w.w. and let florian and stevenson fight for the title.

dana better strip the belt,why wouldnt he.thats boges if he doesnt.

I think Sherk should not only have the belt stripped from him but I think he should get a lifetime ban from the UFC. As a champion you are a bigtime ambasador of the sport and the orginization. I think the UFC needs to send a message that they will not put up with cheaters by not allowing him to fight again. As a fan who spent over $300 on his ticket for UFC 73 I feel robbed as I thought I was paying to see a big fight in the lightweight division but now realize I only got to see 2 cheaters going against each other.

I think Sherk should not only have the belt stripped from him but I think he should get a lifetime ban from the UFC. As a champion you are a bigtime ambasador of the sport and the orginization. I think the UFC needs to send a message that they will not put up with cheaters by not allowing him to fight again. As a fan who spent over $300 on his ticket for UFC 73 I feel robbed as I thought I was paying to see a big fight in the lightweight division but now realize I only got to see 2 cheaters going against each other.

i see your’e point, but a lifetime ban is a little too strict. a 1 yr susp for the 1rst offense is okay, that is actually alot stricter than most sports on their 1rst offense. actually i think it might be the most strict.

“Not only are they not fighting in the finale, they’ll never fight in the UFC. Spike wanted that fight. It ain’t gonna happen. No (expletive) way is that fight going to happen. Those guys will never fight in the UFC — ever.”

-dana white on two fighters who had a scoff which disobeyed one of the rules he wrote.

compare that to his vanilla bland response to this rubbish. i dont understand how he can not be offended. not only did they try to break the rules, they tried to lie about the type of fighter and person they are.

explain to me how getting into a minor scuffle with large amounts of alcohol involved, is more punishable than 2 fighters taking steroids for the biggest fights of their respective careers.

brian urlacher was fined $100,000 for wearing a vitamin water hat in the superbowl press week.

T.O. was fined $35,000 for spitting on DeAngelo Hall (an opposing player)

anybody see any similarities.

he will be banned and stripped watch in nov their will be a title fight for the belt bj penn vs?? my guess would be joe stevenson or roger huerta if he wins in aug.

Do you think it is possible with all the supplements that sherk takes that it cold be some chemical that he wasn’t fully aware of in one of them. Its just I find it hard to believe someone in his position who KNOWS he will get tested would take those drugs????

with as picky about how sean sherk is about his body and his routine and regimen, i doubt there is one minor side effect or chemical in any one of his 25 supplements he takes daily, that he doesn’t know inside and out.

Sherk is a natural 170-180lb guy who just couldn’t cut it in the welterweight division so he dropped to lightweight basically to be stronger than everybody. He’s a boring fighter he slams guys and holds em on the ground. But as for the whole STERIODS ISSUE MAN everyone is getting caught. NICK DIAZ against Gomi. Stephon Bonnar, Vitor Belfort, Royce Gracie, and Melvin Gullard for COCAINE!

If sherk isn’t stripped oh we’ll BJ PENN will beat him anyway.
Or if DANA BREAKS BREAD AND GET’S GOMI?? But if he does will GOMI fight at 155 or 170…?

just give penn the belt. Or if you want to make it fair have him beat up florian or some other guy that has no chance against him. The only lightweight that has a chance against bj is sherk. BUT ONLY IF SHERK IS ONLY STEROIDS.

 
roger huerta

wonder if the “Ranpage” Jackson test has come back yet…although, something tells me he wouldnt.

I’m sure this was posted purely to get a response, but just STFU anyway. This was what, 2 months ago? Um, yeah, I’m pretty sure his test has come back.

Wow, the only thing that kept me from saying how f#@$ing boring that fight was, was the fact that I could appreciate sherks athletisism. Now that I find out even that wasn’t natural, wow, that was the most boring waste of time. I think sherk should be striped of his title, and put in the octagon against cro cop so we can see him get his ass kicked for wasting our time and pay per veiw dollars. I want a refund!

roger huerta

Sherk should be stripped and Florian should definately get the opportunity to fight for the belt.

I honestly feel that guys who take certain “stuff” think its ok just as long as it isnt a true “anabolic steroid” that im going to stick a needle in my ass.

I mean its obvious Sean Sherk is on numerous supplements an it could be a chemical reaction thus making certain levels higher than they actually are. But just in general, if I were to take Testtosterone, that would be illegal wouldnt it, that is if my levels were higher than regulation.

So why the hell does the UFC condone and employ “XYIENCE” which has a “testosterone” product. Do they think that it isnt a TRUE form of testosterone ? You can get that shit at GNC over the counter, yet probably get suspended like Sean Sherk did as a result … Pretty hypocritical if you think about it.

UFC promoting over the counter products (XYIENCE) that may or may not have combined with a form of a steroid which Sean Sherk may or may not have ingested / stuck himself with.

Knowing Dana, he probably hands BJ Penn the title, then the division loses all credibility. Sean Sherk was much needed in this division.

Kevin “cuts” Kelly

Anyone else want to slob BJ Penn’s knob like a school girl raise your hand. It is really sickening that you think he is the Michael Jordan of MMA. He’s more of a Clyde Drexler so cool your jets and let the next lightweight championship fight take place when it does happen. He aint Chuck Liddell or Randy Couture so chilllll.

He should be stripped thats what happened to big ’Timmy’’ when he tested postive for a banned substance.

Sherk should be stripped and Florian should definately get the opportunity to fight for the belt.

Yeah against B.J that would be insane.

Without a doubt Florian should definately get the chance to fight for the title. It was Sherks strength that won that fight for him when he fought Florian, and it seems that that was probably steroid assissted. Huerta is a good fighter no doubt, but don’t just say he should get a shot cos he’s a pin up boy.

Penn, Florian, Huerta, Stevenson… there are a ton of deserving guys. The belt should be vacated immediately as a matter of policy on drug tests. What’s there to appeal? If you murder someone and are found guilty, you don’t get to roam the streets while your appeal is pending. The punishment starts with conviction (positive test). The fighter gets an automatic appeal which is always going to be filed but is going to be dismissed 99% of the time.

NO Imterim crap ……

Strip Shrek of the title straight away

Im not naive enough to think the sport is 100% clean , but for fighters of this profile to be doing it is just plain stupid…….

Chuck um both out of the UFC , let um fight in the red neck shows with Billybob and his goat as the only spectators…….

Josh Barnett is a quality fighter, but when he tested positive for Steriods after winng the title off of Randy he has beenshunned ….

Dont know why they let Tim Sylvia back in though ?

Just stinks really, they have enough quality fighters now they dont have to keep letting these guys back in …..

I dont think they should be given a second chance at all , after all they are trying to steal an advantage over their collegues, would they feel bad if they sent soemone into retirment because they were too juiced up ???? NO …… we shouldnt feel sorry one bit for them ……

So the obvious is Shrek will lose the title, $2,500 and be banned for 1 year. Don’t forget being champ he was up in the “six figure” range on his contract. What did he get on this fight… $250K (I’m guessing). So he kisses that money goodbye now. OUCH!!

When the title is vacated, the matchup should be Penn-Florian. Penn is a former champ. Nuff said. Florian is the last clean guy to challenge for the title and he is at the top of his game right now. He’s won two matches since he lost in the title bout. He is ready.

Huerta and Stevenson are top prospects but they’ve been coddled too much and haven’t fought any top guys. So in protecting them, the UFC actually hurt them in this bizarre situation. Of course Joe Silva will just toss darts, use the ouiji board or crap in two buckets to card the title bout.

So the obvious is Shrek will lose the title, $2,500 and be banned for 1 year. Don’t forget being champ he was up in the “six figure” range on his contract. What did he get on this fight… $250K (I’m guessing). So he kisses that money goodbye now. OUCH!!

Actually he got something like 24-30 k really bad I know

ANYONE SEE THE TRAINING THAT SHERK DOES? THEY DID ALMSOT A WHOLE SHOW ON IT AND HYPED UP HOW GOOD HE WAS AND HOW HARD HE TRAINS. I sat there and thought damn ho the hell does this guy do this. WELL NOW I KNOW!! he was all roided out and on Roid Rage! Now hes gonna get his belt stripped from him…UH OH!!! PUT HIS FAMILY IN PROTECTIVE CUSTODY!! I FEEL ANOTHER BENOIT COMIN!

Actually he got something like 24-30 k really bad I know

Actually it was really really really bad! He got only $14,000 to fight and he had to win against Hermes to get the extra $14,000.

I bet Sherk or Franca don’t have to give back their endorsement money.

So the obvious is Shrek will lose the title, $2,500 and be banned for 1 year. Don’t forget being champ he was up in the “six figure” range on his contract. What did he get on this fight… $250K (I’m guessing). So he kisses that money goodbye now. OUCH!!

According To mmaweekly.com Sherk only got paid $28,000 $14,000 for fighting and $14,000 for winning. As far as I was aware he keeps the money and just pays the fine, is that not what happened with Royce? If someone has anyother info on this then cool but if its been that way in the past I would imagine it would stay that way.

I hope that BJ stays at LW and fights either Stevenson or Huerta – I just can’t get excited about Florian even though he may be a decent fighter theres just nothing that really appeals to me when he fights.

I was shocked when I heard about sherk but I suppose when you look at the guy its not so surprising, but he was supposed to be a role model and someone to look up to in terms of training hard and working hard to achieve your goals. Its a shame because this sport could use a few good role moedels especially as it grows and becomes more mainstream.

Hope he feels ashamed.

Background: Nandrolone is one of the most abused anabolic steroids, and its use in doping is increasing, as revealed by numerous positive cases during recent years in various sports. Different authors have reported the possible natural production of nandrolone metabolites in humans, and some of these authors argued that exhaustive exercise could increase nandrolone production in the body or induce dehydration and consequently lead to an increase of nandrolone metabolites in urine.

Other hypotheses are that some nutritional supplements contain traces of the steroids or prohormones, such as other norsteroids, not indicated on the label. Indeed, various studies have demonstrated that the consumption of some noncertified nutritional supplements may give rise to nandrolone metabolites in urine samples at concentrations higher than the respective cutoff values.

SUPPLEMENTS A LA XYIENCE TESTOSTERONE …..

Im sure Sean Sherk was taking some form of a steroid, definitly in pill form, doesnt come off as a guy who sticks needles in his ass.

But be mindful of this, supplements often contain other ingredients of which are not listed on the label, some even contain “not approved by the FDA” on the label, XYIENCE TESTOSTERONE says testosterone !!!! on the package lol what do you think is in it ? The UFC condones these supplements I mean helloooo ?

Combining chemicals can lead to higher levels of anything including testosterone or even Nandrolone which is what popped up on the radar following Sherk’s test. You will also find upon further research that with increased exercise (UFC ALL Access shows how hard he trains) levels came further increase. Combine that with dehydration, YOU PROBABLY WILL TEST POSITIVE LIKE A BARRY BONDS.

Typical Hypocritical Dana White turns his face from what goes on like Bud Selig then tries to take a tough stance haha.

By the way Sean Sherk could certainly have been on perscription medication which doctors can perscribe. Doctors can perscribe numerous forms of steroids. Anyone forget he had extensive shoulder surgery.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOO Now I remember you bafoons !!!!

If they were perscribed than he can by state commision be pardoned to a degree but will still ultimately serve some form of a suspension maybe without a fine.

The NFL stood behind Bret Favre when he was addicted to painkillers, could it be that Sean Sherk was addicted to the medication that was perscribed to him by his doctor following major shoulder surgery last winter, Maybe he truely has a serious problem with addiction and it is extremely probably that a steroid based pain reliever was given to him legally.

Take it easy and think first.

The NFL stood behind Bret Favre when he was addicted to painkillers, could it be that Sean Sherk was addicted to the medication that was perscribed to him by his doctor following major shoulder surgery last winter, Maybe he truely has a serious problem with addiction and it is extremely probably that a steroid based pain reliever was given to him legally.

Take it easy and think first.

So being addicted makes it ok? It’s understandable that you are on a crusade of sorts to defend Sean Sherk, but no matter how it goes down, he was using steroids. Even if it started out as a doctor prescribed thing, if anyone uses a doctor prescribed drug when they aren’t suppose to, it’s illegal.

Hey! I think I still have some muscle relaxers from when I tore my lower back muscles while lifting. Anyone want some? They were doctor prescribed, so its ok. hahahah..

Dana should immediately strip Sherk of the title. Then the UFC should rank the top 8 LWs and hold a 1-night grand prix tournament. Who wouldn’t pay $39.95 for 7 highly competitive LW fights? This is a huge opportunity for Dana to do the right thing in regard to the performance enhancing drug issue and make some serious bank in the process.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_UFC_champions#Heavyweight_Championship

At this link you can see the history of Steroid use by other UFC Champions!

Here is a site the gives a history of title holders and the reason they lost thier belt, defeated, contract dispute, or failed drug test.

http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/pages/other/ufctit.htm

The best I can tell it has happened twice before. Josh Barnett and Tim Sylvia. Josh was stripped, Tim vacated due to suspension. Maybe Sean will vacate if his appeal is denied.

if you think huerta is going to beat anybody decent in the lightweight division you are out of your effing mind.

he’s being coddled up to a title shot, or a contender shot. look at who he’s beat in the ufc… when he has his first real fight, reality is gonna smack him in the face.

Matt
Jul 20th, 2007 at 8:48 am Quote this comment
The NFL stood behind Bret Favre when he was addicted to painkillers, could it be that Sean Sherk was addicted to the medication that was perscribed to him by his doctor following major shoulder surgery last winter, Maybe he truely has a serious problem with addiction and it is extremely probably that a steroid based pain reliever was given to him legally.

Take it easy and think first.

So being addicted makes it ok? It’s understandable that you are on a crusade of sorts to defend Sean Sherk, but no matter how it goes down, he was using steroids. Even if it started out as a doctor prescribed thing, if anyone uses a doctor prescribed drug when they aren’t suppose to, it’s illegal.

Hey! I think I still have some muscle relaxers from when I tore my lower back muscles while lifting. Anyone want some? They were doctor prescribed, so its ok. hahahah..

As for your bafoon NESS I will say this, if he is addicted it is not OK and he SHOULD GET HELP. The comment of :

“if it started out as a doctor perscribed thing, if anyone uses a doctor perscribed drug when they arent supposed to is illegal” is ridiculous.

HOW DO YOU KNOW IF HE STILL WAS NOT CURRENTLY PERSCRIBED THE MEDICATION ? ARE YOU A DOCTOR ? HE HAD MAJOR RECONSTRCUTIVE SHOULDER SURGERY. DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG PERSCRIPTION MEDICATION CAN BE PERSCRIBED FOR IN THAT INSTANCE ?

MONTHS !!!!!!! AFTER SURGERY … HE HAD SURGERY IN THE WINTER OF 2006

KK. If he was still being prescribed the meds, or even was still able to have traces of them in his system, he wouldnt have been cleared by the NSAC.

He fought in California

He is appealing so he must have some valid things that his lawyers will bring up, until then lets see what occurs …

HE WONT BE STRIPPED UNTIL AT LEAST THEN

Maybe he truely has a serious problem with addiction and it is extremely probably that a steroid based pain reliever was given to him legally.

Take it easy and think first.

Steroid based pain reliever??? Never heard of such a thing.

Please name them.

Anyone else want to slob BJ Penn’s knob like a school girl raise your hand. It is really sickening that you think he is the Michael Jordan of MMA. He’s more of a Clyde Drexler so cool your jets and let the next lightweight championship fight take place when it does happen. He aint Chuck Liddell or Randy Couture so chilllll.

your’e right b.j. is not chuck or randy… b.j’s never been koed. b.j. has beeen around and done alot more for along time than what i think your aware of.

I’m disappointed in Franca, but I appreciate his honest, manning up and taking responsibility. If there was ever a good ‘excuse’ for steroids, I’d say recovering from an injury to feed your family is it, but I’m not condoning it and I still think he’s stupid for doing it.

HOW CAN YOU NOT KNOW WHAT SUBSTANCES THEY TEST FOR???

It’s your job as a fighter (or your trainer’s job) to call the Nevada State Athletic Commission or whoever does the testing, and say, fax me a list of stuff I can’t take. Then ask, hey, if I’m mixing Vitamins X, with my Met-Rx, steak dinner, and my girlfriend’s poontang, will this somehow cause me to test a false positive? Responsibility lies ultimately with the fighter.

So I find it suspicious that (from what I’ve read or haven’t read) that Sherk hasn’t publicly denied anything. If you were innocent, wouldn’t you get on the horn (internet) and proclaim it??

UFC NEEDS TO INSTITUTE IT’S OWN STEROID TESTING MONTHLY FOR ALL FIGHTERS, NOT JUST TITLE BOUTS.

Combining chemicals can lead to higher levels of anything including testosterone or even Nandrolone which is what popped up on the radar following Sherk’s test. You will also find upon further research that with increased exercise (UFC ALL Access shows how hard he trains) levels came further increase. Combine that with dehydration, YOU PROBABLY WILL TEST POSITIVE LIKE A BARRY BONDS.

Typical Hypocritical Dana White turns his face from what goes on like Bud Selig then tries to take a tough stance haha.

Come on, your telling me a guy like Sherk doesn’t know every single chemical that goes into his body and all of the possible side effects of him. And for your argument of pain killers that is rediculous, he would not have been cleared to fight if he was on prescription steroids and if he is addicted to pain killers that shouldn’t make his punishments any less severe. Im not quite sure why you are so passionate about defending him in the first place I mean is it really all that surprising looking at this guy.

Life ban for the Sherk…Set an example.

your’e right b.j. is not chuck or randy… b.j’s never been koed. b.j. has beeen around and done alot more for along time than what i think your aware of.

damn right..the only reason he lost to matt hughes the second time was because of his rib and he only had six weeks to train. He holds wins over
1. Renzo Gracie
2. Jens Pulver
3. Matt Hughes
4. Matt Serra
5. Takanori Gomi
6. Rodrigo Gracie
must I continue..The thing about BJ is he does not go around thinking he is a “bad ass”. he only hypes up when its time to fight.. I hope one day he gets a rematch with GSP..

damn right..the only reason he lost to matt hughes the second time was because of his rib and he only had six weeks to train. He holds wins over
1. Renzo Gracie
2. Jens Pulver
3. Matt Hughes
4. Matt Serra
5. Takanori Gomi
6. Rodrigo Gracie
must I continue..The thing about BJ is he does not go around thinking he is a “bad ass”. he only hypes up when its time to fight.. I hope one day he gets a rematch with GSP..

Sherk’s pending appeal is the only thing keeping the strap on his mantle. As the appeal goes, so goes the belt. The decision has already been made.
Those jumping on the Sherk bashing wagon should put it in neutral. I am not defending him, he certainly looks like a needle jockey, but pissing 12ng/ml is nothing. There is a good chance he will win his appeal, especially if new samples/tests are ordered.
It would really be stupid of the UFC to strip the belt and then have to give it back in the case of a successful appeal. I won’t be surprised by either verdict.

Yeah against B.J that would be insane.

and dont forget he fought machida at lhw and held his own. i wouldn’t mind seeing b.j. take on a. silva!