okay i just read this on mmaweekly to,but i also read one where it said sherk tested positive to is that true ufcmania? what is with all this drug use in the sport now they know their gonna get caught…soo i dont get it and they ALWAYS lose did you notice that.

They should just do what BB players do, use it and train then quit taking it and just maintain the mass with hard workouts and you can pass the test and still have the roid fueled extra mass.

He and no other fighter that has tested positive for banned substances are “sorry”!!! They are ONLY sorry they got caught. Period! If the test would have come back clean, do you think he would have volunteered this info? Of course not. They are just sorry that they have to go through this. A very selfish act.

This is getting old too. Watching the weigh-ins, Franca looked like he never looked before. Never thought he would have juiced though. These positve tests have to come to an end. I dont know how, but it has to stop. Pisses me off.

I’m surprised Sherk hasn’t tested positive before….

He had to do something if he wanted to beat sherk!! Question in my mind is if he just did it to get over an ankle injury, or if he did it to get an edge over Sherk. Either way is stupid, but if he did it so that he can fight, thats forgivable. Doing it to get an unfair advantage would make him a loser in my book.

The sad thing is you can get huge and ripped without roids if you just put in the time and effort. These people are just lazy and want the quick way.

There’s no way Sherk tested positive, he’s just not the type.

http://www.mmanews.com/ufc/Breaking-News:-Sean-Sherk-Tests-Positive-As-Well.html

DID THEY TEST SEAN SHERK???..THATS ROIDS RIGHT THERE!! Come on man..he didn’t get freakish body type by just taking his flinstones and eating an organic carrot.. PLZ can some1 test him.

Nice Masteron, it has really low side effects besides, hair loss and acne, it doesn’t aromatize, so you don’t have worry about bitch tits or hair loss. I wonder if he realized that metabolites can stay in your system for 3 weeks? I hope Sherk won’t test either.

I also read about the Sherk positive test. The UFC (and Zuffa’s other leagues) needs to step up both the testing and the penalties. Right now, as I understand it, the only testing is by the various state athletic commissions. Those same commissions hand out the penalties. Some recent shows (like the one in England) had little or no testing.

Zuffa needs to aggressively attack this issue themselves. One needs to consider the political climate as well, especially considering the issues facing pro wresting. (Like it or not, many will view MMA and pro wrestling is the same frame due to audience and, at times, marketing.) The UFC has had congressmen negatively interested in the past. Don’t let them get lumped into the baseball and wresting circuses.

First and foremost, if the reported Sherk test is true, strip him of the belt, just as Tim Sylvia was. Then start testing EVERYONE on a set standard at EVERY show. Make sure it meets or exceeds the requirements of the state commissions.

Lastly, make examples of violators. If someone hits a baseball a little farther, it’s cheating. If someone in MMA strikes harder it could, under extreme circumstance, be health / career threatening to the opponent. Zuffa needs to make the fighters fear for their livelihood if they cheat. They’re risking nothing less in their opponents.

OMFG the list continues to grow. Does anyone else find it funny that all these guys getting caught lose their fights? From now on test all the losers of every fight! lol

The UFC really has to stop randomly selecting fighters to be tested after the fights. They need to test EVERY fighter after EVERY fight. This is a sport where having the type of advantage that steroids and other performance enhancing drugs can cause serious injuries to an opponent. During the height of the steroid era in baseball the homerun totals were sky high. They were simply able to hit the ball harder. That would equate to a fighter being able to hit an opponent that much harder as well. They really need to get this under control before someone get seriously injured in the octagon. Because we all know that that is the worst thing that can happen to this sport. Then to add the fact that the fighter that inflicted the damage was on steroids… If that were to ever happen the UFC would sure have a lot on their hands!

AaronW, did you just call Sherk and Franca Lazy!? Says the guy behind the keyboard.

sherk has tested positive……………to me its not surprising

For real. Never would have thought Hermes would have done that. Just goes to show. I would put money on that Forrest Griffin juices as well. He came in SOOOOOOOOO heavy at his last fight without a shred of fat on him. JUICED!!!

It has been confirmed that Lightweight champion Sean Sherk has also failed his post-UFC 73 drug test as well. His opponent Hermes Franca released a statement claiming he would be coming up positive when the next set of test results were made public by the California State Athletic Commission.

Sherk tested positive for Nandrolone Metabolite and has been fined $2,500. He will be suspended until June 26, 2008 (nearly a year). Normal levels of Nandrolone range from 2 ng/mL to 6 ng/mL – where as Sherk was found with 12 ng/mL.

wow, TEST EVERY FIGHTER AFTER EVERY FIGHT!

WOW! Sherk tested positive. Will be forfeit the belt like Tim Sylvia did? or will there be an interim champ?

Wow… fuck these two them.
Its amazing that fighters will take everything they have and flush it down the toilet…

Sean Sherk looks like roid injecting midget

Do you think they will strip Sherk of the title?

sherk tested positive also it says it in the link i just posted. I dont blame hermes, he needed money and needed this fight, while i know he made the wrong decision, i respect him for coming clean and admitting to doing this (something we rarely see). I mean look at floyd landis, the dude tested positive for high testosterone levels twice and he still won’t admit to it. Hermes owned up to it and i hope he only used it for an injury, not for an advantage.

man….im real disappointed with that…

big muscle shark fan, thats pretty sucky….

strip him of the title, got to.
i truly admired how hard he trained and dieted for fights, but looks like he wasnt doin it on his own.

GIVE THE TITLE TO BJ(J) PENN, THOUGH, TEST HIM FIRST.

my guess is he will be stripped like barnett was after he tested positive way back at ufc36…putting an interim champ would make zuffa look bad…they need to show there are consequences for your actions

Sherk tested positive for Nandrolone Metabolite which does this to your body: The positive effects of the drug include muscle growth, appetite stimulation and increased red blood cell production and bone density. the last is BONE DENSITY, talk about strong knuckles…

Kenny Florian the lightweight champ?

I have always respected Sherk and after seeing him fight this last time I was in awe of his phisical capabilities, but now i see it was all fake, i believe he should be stripped of that belt……isnt that what might happen mania since he cant fight for a whole dam year????!!!

AaronW, did you just call Sherk and Franca Lazy!? Says the guy behind the keyboard.

If they are doing ‘roids to get in shape….yep I did. I didn’t say I wasn’t lazy or deny my own massive steroid use…wait did I just type that.

UFC will have to take the title away from Sherk. It couldn’t afford to not have a lightweight title fight for a year. Especially with so much talent in the division. Only question is….who will BJ Penn face off against?

Ah Sean how dissapointing………..Same Shit Gracie tested for.

I agree that they need to be more aggressive about testing. As far as punishment goes, 1 year for Franca seems worthy.

wow 1 year. i guess there will be no Bj Penn vs. Sean Sherk now.

Strip the belt
Let Daddy and Penn fight for it and Florian fight the winner.

Do you think they will strip Sherk of the title?

No doubt about it. Sylvia and Barnett were stripped of their ufc titles after testing positive, so there is no way Sherk is keeping the belt. He is out for a year anyway, so that is too much time to keep a belt in limbo

Anyone else guessing Penn vs Stevenson for the vacant title?

Btw, Stephen Bonnar was clean…

Yep every fighter needs to be tested at regular intervals and before each fight as long as they are on a UFC contract. Sherk needs to be stripped of his title immediately. Which is cool, no more Sherk lay and pray fights!

When did Tim Sylvia test positive? I missed that.

Anyone else guessing Penn vs Stevenson for the vacant title?

That sounds pretty good. What about these kids from the Ultimate Fighter, though? We know they were at least clean during the shows. Are the fights on the Ultimate Fighter the only shows that are “completely clean?”

Anyone else guessing Penn vs Stevenson for the vacant title?

 Good call, there are the two most deserving.

Why do the results come out post fight instead or pre fight? Instead of producing tainted results the UFC should be more active in testing while the fighters are in training. This way they can produce clean shows.

Strip the belt
Let Daddy and Penn fight for it and Florian fight the winner.

i think thats the right thing to do.

I am not going to lie, it is a sad day today, for the simple fact that so many of our beloved MMA fighters are starting to pop positive for steroids, this is for sure putting a hurt on our sport!!!

UFC 78

BJ Penn vs Florian, Kenny deserves another chance, since he lost to Sherk for the title, and we know now that Sherk was all juiced up when he beat Florian.

being a bj penn fan i am dissaopinted. i really wanted to see him dismantle the ‘shark’. maye bj’s upcomming fight will be for the title (two top contenders for an unowned title). who knows what dana will do. knowing him he is going to give it to the next TUF winner.

They should just do what BB players do, use it and train then quit taking it and just maintain the mass with hard workouts and you can pass the test and still have the roid fueled extra mass.

Uh, no. They should not use them at all.

I wonder if the UFC is going to go public with some sort of statement. With such little media coverage there really is not any sort of pressure on Dana White to come out and make a statement or to publicly announce hard rules. It would be a real mistake for the UFC to not come out and address the fans amid the chaos that is going on with Baseball and Wrestling. Like a previous poster said, it is time to make an example and I think that Sherk is expendable.

Yep every fighter needs to be tested at regular intervals and before each fight as long as they are on a UFC contract. Sherk needs to be stripped of his title immediately. Which is cool, no more Sherk lay and pray fights!

When did Tim Sylvia test positive? I missed that.

It was right after his fight with Ricco, when he first won the title.

TUF the championship season!
one UFC newcomer will become the new lightweight champ!
it will make for good reality tv.
then BJ, Florian or Daddy could brutaly beat the kid up and get the belt.

or even better have a light weight grand prix and the winner gets the belt.

If Joe Daddy wins at 74 it should be Ken-Flo vs Joe Daddy too see who faces Penn after that. maybe throw a Huerta/Thomas fight together too fight one of the losers of the other fights for #1 contender.

Anyone else guessing Penn vs Stevenson for the vacant title?

Good call, there are the two most deserving.

Ya, I mean Stevenson has been on a tear lately. His win over Edwards is huge, and he has definitely put in the time needed to get the title. I don’t see anyone more deserving of a shot, even Penn.

They should have a lightweight tournament. Like the old UFC days. That would be sweet.

Florian,Stevenson,Penn, Huerta, Griffin, Spencer, Stout, Thomas, IT WOULD BE AWESOME

Why don’t they bring in Takanori Gomi from Pride to fight BJ Penn for the title?

It’s something like this that makes BJ Penn look that much better. But imagine BJ on steroids, he’d be a BEAST!

Gomi vs Penn II would be awesome. The first fight was great.

Now that I think of it, that would be sweeter, UFC and Pride TOP 10 tournament

TUF the championship season!
one UFC newcomer will become the new lightweight champ!
it will make for good reality tv.
then BJ, Florian or Daddy could brutaly beat the kid up and get the belt.

or even better have a light weight grand prix and the winner gets the belt.

I think that is a great idea. I’d limit it to 8 fighters, with each round it’s own ppv (even the finals)

Penn
Stevenson
Florian
Edgar
Huerta
Guida
Griffin
Nate Diaz (for winning tuf)

You could even extend it to 16 with some other tuf fighters (Manny, Lauzon), especially if they brought in some Pride talent (Aoki, Kawajiri, Hansen, Melendez)

If Franca had stayed clean he would’ve won the title by Sherk’s forfeiture. This just sucks. Guess BJ will be champ sooner than we thought.

I say that BJ Penn has earned the right for the immediate title shot. With that being said I think Daddy v. Florian needs to take place to see who fights Penn.

Bah I left out Thomas, Fisher, and Stout. Shows how stacked the lw division really is, lol

If Franca had stayed clean he would’ve won the title by Sherk’s forfeiture. This just sucks. Guess BJ will be champ sooner than we thought.

It would have been a No Contest I’m pretty sure, which we will see for sure since both tested positive. Then it would have been Franca vs Penn for the belt in all likelyhood

I think it is pretty apparent that the UFC will trip Sherk of the title. They are trying to build up the lightweight division, and already did Sherk a favor by waiting umpteen months for his shoulder surgery to heal up without a title defense. And now another year in suspension.
BJ’s a bigger name and draw as champion altogether. He’ll fight the next contender, and build the champ from that. Sherk is ridiculous.

I’m not sure Zuffa can financially afford regular steriod tests. Their greedy fighters already get most of the income, haha.

Anyone else think neither will get a shot at the big time again? This will be the highest profile test failure by far, being that the ufc is at it’s height, BOTH test positive, and the steroid issue has become so bad. Royce testing positive was bad enough, but I don’t think I’ve ever heard of both fighters in a championship fight failing a test. There is going to be a huge backlash from this

Wow. This is some bad press for the UFC. Trying to establish a legitimate fighting league and not only does one of your champs test possitive, so does the guy he beat. Very Bad!!
I don’t know enough about the testing procedures, but is it possible that the levels in Sherk’s system could be natural?? The guy does take a lot of supplements…..

They should strip Sherk of the title and ban him from the UFC.

It was just obvious with Sean Sherk. Just look at him. Hes a midget that walks around probably weighting 185LBS normally and cuts down to 155LBS. At least thats what Joe Rogan said. So i always thought Sean was on RoIdS. I say STRIP THE LOSER OF HIS BELT. Have a fight of the top two contenders for the vacant belt. BJ Penn vs. Roger Huerta. Thats what needs to be done now.

Instead of begging for a title shot Franca should have begged for a raise.

BJ PENN VS ROGER HUERTA

This is complete crap. The UFC does not do enough to prevent steroid use, instead choosing to leave testing to the state athletic commissions after events, just like the WWE does with its “wellness program.” If the UFC is serious about rooting out steroid use then it needs to administer random drug tests for steroids and recreational drugs to every active fighter throughout the year, not just after fights. The organization takes in more than enough money to be able to test everyone on a regular basis.

glad to see the article take such a negative stance against it. i play college rugby in the us, and when you get into the top 20 teams, about 50% of the kids are on steroids. fuck it all

Wow. This is some bad press for the UFC. Trying to establish a legitimate fighting league and not only does one of your champs test possitive, so does the guy he beat. Very Bad!!
I don’t know enough about the testing procedures, but is it possible that the levels in Sherk’s system could be natural?? The guy does take a lot of supplements…..

Not possible. If you look Nandrolone up on Google you will see that he was about 4 to 6 times the acceptable limit. This is a common testing procedure for Olympic qualifiers.

Honestly, I think Penn thought Sherk was the only lightweight that could challenge him, which is why he was going to stay. My prediction, Penn to 170 while Florian and Stevenson battle for the vacant title.

wow…iam very disaponted in hearing this…why would any champion in there right mind take steriods? its stupid and when your the champion do you really think there gonna let you not fight for 1 year and still be the champ when you come back? lets get serious now….now i hope they have the 2 top contenders (bj penn,joe stevenson) fight for a vancant title

For real. Never would have thought Hermes would have done that. Just goes to show. I would put money on that Forrest Griffin juices as well. He came in SOOOOOOOOO heavy at his last fight without a shred of fat on him. JUICED!!!

Dude, Forrest on steroids?? Give me a break. He has the same physique and body mass in all his fights. Secondly, the guy trains with Randy. A guy like Couture would never affiliate himself with a juicer.

BTW, props to Hermes for ’fessing up. As for Sherk, it was a only a matter of time before he got busted.

This hurts so much. I’m not a big fan of Sean Sherk, but I respect and admire his work ethic. Sherk’s drive for success is amazing; it is so unfortunate that this report came out that he used steroids. I am a big fan of Franca and it sucks that he tested positve, too. It hurts the UFC, the fans and MMA in general that both two fine fighters will be out of the sport for a whole year.

MMA organizations need to come up with something before people start looking at MMA like they do WWE type of entertainment, as a bunch of big steroid bodied men putting on a show. This discredits everything about the fight and makes the sport look really bad. MMA needs to get to the problem before it gets too big like baseball, just learn from the history of the mlb steriod problems, and don’t make the same mistakes, capitalize off them. Sherk and Franca now suspended, legend Royce Gracie was suspended, and several others have tested positive, it’s time for MMA leadership to step up. An I think a one year punishment is fair for the first strike, but for two they should be banned. An I really use to respect Sean Sherk, but any organization should strip any man of the belt if he test positive. It’s sad, I heard Joe Rogan after UFC 74 kids should look up to Sherk and get motivated to train as hard as he does, now all those kids have too see this news. Another thing that sucks is many others as well as I were looking forward to Sherk and Penn fighting, now I guess it should be Penn and Florian for the belt. Also that was a very well said article about lightweight losers, well put ufcmania.

how was it not obvious to everyone that sherk is a user? that guy is a piece of crap and deserves the worst.

Year of the title upsets continues…

it doesn’t get much more disappointing than this, i was really really looking forward to sherk vs. penn, all i got to say is the ufc better strip the belt from sherk, there’s no way he deserves to hold on to it through a year long suspension, damn sherk, that is so damn disappointing man, so damn disappointing…so now i guess its gonna be bj penn vs. either stevenson or florian for what better be the vacant lw title, i say give the fight to stevenson if he beats pelligrino he deserves it…

i like the tournament idea too, there are so many good lws, a tournament spread out over a year could make that division even more exciting than it already is…

If MMA wants to gain the respect that it deserves, the UFC needs to test every fighter after every event, period. Mainstream sports like baseball, football, etc can’t do this because it would cost a fortune to test everyone. The UFC doesn’t employ THAT many fighters so they could easily cover the costs involved. With all the positive results that have showed up lately, MMA is looking exactly how it’s been percieved over the years, two meat-heads locked in a cage beating on each other. If the UFC doesn’t want to look like the WWE, Dana had better step it up.

STRIP HIM!,

KenFlo v. BJ Penn for the vacant title

No wonder Sherk was such an animal on All Access. He was having a fit of roid rage as he slammed the sledge hammer and flipped the tires. He has to be one of the dumbest people in the sport to do this. He spent over a year out of the sport because he couldn’t make enough money. He finally gets a championship belt and the opportunity to be marketed and make a lot of money, and he chooses to lose it all by taking steroids?

The best thing about this is that hopefully we’ll never see him in the UFC again. I don’t even want to see him back in the end of 2008. When you’re about to watch a Sean Sherk fight, you are basically guaranteed to see a half hour of one guy lying on top of the other and doing just enough work not to get stood up. I don’t remember the last time I saw an entertaining Sean Sherk fight. Oh yeah, now I remember, it was GSP beating the living day lights out of him! Sean Sherk spent too much time in-between fights with his damn injuries during training. That is not acceptable for a champion. A champ should have to defend the belt at least 3 times a year, not every 10 months.

Good riddance Muscle Shark!

this is awesome. Down with Sherk. No more dry humping. BJ Penn vs Daddy for the belt!!!!! Then Title shot for Florian! HOW PIMP IS THAT!!!???? I hate lay and pray. Sherk can floss with a piece of rope in between his two fronnt teeth cause he did so many roids

If MMA wants to gain the respect that it deserves, the UFC needs to test every fighter after every event, period. Mainstream sports like baseball, football, etc can’t do this because it would cost a fortune to test everyone. The UFC doesn’t employ THAT many fighters so they could easily cover the costs involved. With all the positive results that have showed up lately, MMA is looking exactly how it’s been percieved over the years, two meat-heads locked in a cage beating on each other. If the UFC doesn’t want to look like the WWE, Dana had better step it up.

Well-said man, well-said.

Bunch of amateurs. No better than boxing. Dana – Keep it up and the audience won’t be booing just for boring fights. What a bunch of bs. I bought the fight on ppv – I’d be better off buying the Harlem Globetrotters v. Washington Generals. Combined with the Tito Rashad draw and people really want to complain about boxing being fixed???

Round 1:
1. bj penn
16. leonard garcia
8. clay guida
9. marcus aurelio
4. frankie edgar
13. kurt pellegrino
5. tyson griffin
12. melvin guilliard
6. roger huerta
11. tiago tavares
3. kenny florian
14. nate diaz
10. din thomas
7. spencer fisher
2. joe stevenson
15. joe lauzon

Plus with the pittance they pay the fighters compared to the huge PPV income they can easily afford to test.

P.S. my comment about MMA fighters using the BB player roid strategy wasn’t serious.

Round 2:
1. bj penn
9. marcus aurelio

4. frankie edgar
5. tyson griffin

11. tiago tavares
3. kenny florian

10. din thomas
2. joe stevenson

Round 3:
1. bj penn
4. frankie edgar

11. tiago tavares
2. joe stevenson

Final:
1. bj penn
2. joe stevenson

Champion:
1. bj penn

bj and joe Stevenson should fight then florion and huerta and the winners fight for the vacant belt if its taken a way which it should be if dana white doesnt take the belt away i am going to hate him for the rest of my life

Respect the fighters, even if you disagree with choices like what meds/supplements they use. So many fighters are testing positive that it’s obvious the steroid policy itself needs to be reviewed. Calling the fighters “losers” is not a realistic approach to the issue.

Fighters get hurt in training all the time. They are always on the mend. Drugs/meds/supplements which speed recovery time are always going to be a tempting option. We want to see these guys fight regularly, and then we complain when they do what it takes to prepare for frequent fights. Can’t have it both ways.

We’re at a point in MMA history where some fans need to decide if they want to follow this sport further. Fighters are average guys who make hard choices. Expecting them to be heroic and flawless is ridiculous. Fans who have ridiculously high standards need to find another sport to watch. We won’t miss you. Meanwhile, those of us who like the sport AS IS need to push for a review of the drug policy. Fighters need to be able to medicate when they’re injured. Period.

bj and joe Stevenson should fight then florion and huerta and the winners fight for the vacant belt if its taken a way which it should be if dana white doesnt take the belt away i am going to hate him for the rest of my life

Relax, i’m sure Dana will strip Sherk of his title otherwise he will be the biggest hypocrite to ever walk the face of the earth.

Respect the fighters, even if you disagree with choices like what meds/supplements they use. So many fighters are testing positive that it’s obvious the steroid policy itself needs to be reviewed. Calling the fighters “losers” is not a realistic approach to the issue.

Fighters get hurt in training all the time. They are always on the mend. Drugs/meds/supplements which speed recovery time are always going to be a tempting option. We want to see these guys fight regularly, and then we complain when they do what it takes to prepare for frequent fights. Can’t have it both ways.

We’re at a point in MMA history where some fans need to decide if they want to follow this sport further. Fighters are average guys who make hard choices. Expecting them to be heroic and flawless is ridiculous. Fans who have ridiculously high standards need to find another sport to watch. We won’t miss you. Meanwhile, those of us who like the sport AS IS need to push for a review of the drug policy. Fighters need to be able to medicate when they’re injured. Period.

Roid shooting cheaters don’t deserve the kind of respect you seem to have for them. Respect the fighters who do it honestly instead.

how long do steroids stay in your system?

this is happening at the wrong time, is it just me or is anyone else really worried that this may be the beginning of the end of mma’s leap to mainstream fame?

Round 3:
1. bj penn
4. frankie edgar

11. tiago tavares
2. joe stevenson

Final:
1. bj penn
2. joe stevenson

Champion:
1. bj penn

Can’t say I really disagree with your picks. Some of those fights would be awesome

I’m a Sherk fan…not super fan or anything like that but they have to strip the belt. No questions…BJ is gonna dominate that class once again!

Could be. They need to come down hard on this right now to avoid being tossed into the Pro Wrestling in a cage catagory. I’d hammer ’roid users hard right now. Lifetime ban for the next failed test. Put it in the contracts.

This one is so easy, I got it all figured out. Have all the UFC events in Texas since we don’t test down here in Texas.

I would be fine with that. Please let it be Mr. White.

Relax, i’m sure Dana will strip Sherk of his title otherwise he will be the biggest hypocrite to ever walk the face of the earth.

I agree. I would look bad for the sport. No tolerance is needed. Plus we’ll have another title fight very soon. ;-)

Respect the fighters, even if you disagree with choices like what meds/supplements they use. So many fighters are testing positive that it’s obvious the steroid policy itself needs to be reviewed. Calling the fighters “losers” is not a realistic approach to the issue.

Fighters get hurt in training all the time. They are always on the mend. Drugs/meds/supplements which speed recovery time are always going to be a tempting option. We want to see these guys fight regularly, and then we complain when they do what it takes to prepare for frequent fights. Can’t have it both ways.

We’re at a point in MMA history where some fans need to decide if they want to follow this sport further. Fighters are average guys who make hard choices. Expecting them to be heroic and flawless is ridiculous. Fans who have ridiculously high standards need to find another sport to watch. We won’t miss you. Meanwhile, those of us who like the sport AS IS need to push for a review of the drug policy. Fighters need to be able to medicate when they’re injured. Period.

Fred – your logic is completely flawed. Would you suggest that we raise the legal limit of one’s blood alcohol level as DUI arests rise?

Relax, i’m sure Dana will strip Sherk of his title otherwise he will be the biggest hypocrite to ever walk the face of the earth.

agree. I would look bad for the sport. No tolerance is needed. Plus we’ll have another title fight very soon. ;-)

This one is so easy, I got it all figured out. Have all the UFC events in Texas since we don’t test down here in Texas.

I would be fine with that. Please let it be Mr. White.

And managers at ringside to toss chairs into the ring for the fighters to use?

UFC Should test a week or how ever long it takes to get results back, before the fight! And Let the commission test after the fight! Strip the belt have a tournament of top contenders Penn, Daddy, Perellio and others. This ruins the sport!

This one is so easy, I got it all figured out. Have all the UFC events in Texas since we don’t test down here in Texas.

I would be fine with that. Please let it be Mr. White.

You are a moron. Do us a favor and just stick to living in that WWE fairy-tale world of yours.

So Shrek hasn’t been officially stripped of the belt? He should lose the belt for delaying 9 months to defend the title.

Why are people acting like its no surprise sean sherk is on roids?

I for 1 am shocked, After seeing that UFC All Access on spike I couldn believe how hard he trained. And for grown man that weighs 155 pounds, all muscle, he should be as ripped as sean is. He diets unbelievably hard, hes SOOOO disciplined, and driven to succeed.

I cant believe hes been caught on riods.

The UFC must get steroids outta the Organization as quickly as possible. If more popular guys get caught on riods, then the UFC can kiss away all this attention and publicity. Nobody wants to watch a bunch of dudes on roids beating each others asses. Roids turn this sport from an art form, to a glorified street fight.

I’ve never been this disappointed in an athlete in my life. Sherk was supposed to stand for the physical potential we all possess if we work hard enough. he was not born with unusual talent. he was supposed to be just an honest hard working guy whose obsession for success propelled him tobe one of the best fighters in the world. now I see he’s just another lying scam artist.

NEED TO STRIP THE BELT!! I was so much looking forward to Sherk vs BJ Penn!!! I cant stand it! Now it will never happen!

Guilty until proven innocent.

like i said ASUFC here we come…

1. bj penn
16. leonard garcia
8. clay guida
9. marcus aurelio
4. frankie edgar
13. kurt pellegrino
5. tyson griffin
12. melvin guilliard
6. roger huerta
11. tiago tavares
3. kenny florian
14. nate diaz
10. din thomas
7. spencer fisher
2. joe stevenson
15. joe lauzon

perfect

I just don’t get it. I understand that they don’t test 100% of the fighters at each event so there is a chance of “getting away with it,” but it surprises me that so many people with so much to lose do it. I think the following needs to happen:

A) Strip Sherk of his title. I’m not really surprised that he is taking performance enhancers, given his appearance. I’m sure he takes a lot of other stuff under the radar (like many fighters do, not just hating on Sherk). Anyone who is willing to cheat to achieve their goals isn’t worthy of the title, whether he was doing so at the time he won it or not.

B) Much larger fines. I know the fighters don’t make an exceedingly large amount of money (at least fighters like Sherk don’t) but $2,500 is a slap on the wrist, especially if they allow him to keep his title.

If they let Sherk keep the title, that will deal a major blow to the integrity of MMA.

I looked over wikipedia’s explanation of Nandrolone and it mentions that high levels can be produced with the right mix of protein creatine and cardiovascular exercise.

Anyone have any idea how high that level would be is that the 6ng/ml stated above is that the high limit or could Sherk reach 12ng/ml with the right mix mentioned above?

I’m surprised Sherk hasn’t tested positive before….

I knew it….

I also see in many tests that athletes using Nandralone can test 100x higher than the normal amount in the body and it also possible that meat raised using steriods specifically pork can boost these numbers as well.

Gotta love the lynch-mob mentality of some posters. “STRIP THE BELT!!” LOL. Literally slobbering on their keyboards with zeal.

There are 2 realistic choices:
1) Reform the drug policy so the fighters can use SOME currently banned substances that enhance recovery time.

2) Mandate that fighters can only fight twice a year max. That will help to give everyone more recovery time for their bodies to heal naturally.

Fighters get injured constantly. That’s a fact. That’s the reality which has to be dealt with to get past this problem.
The overriding issue is INJURY RECOVERY. That’s why fighters use steroids, and that is what is NOT getting addressed in most of these replies.

There is no place for drugs in any sport and the people who do it should be booted out of the UFC to get the message across.
Dana should make a point of this before all the rumors start flying and boot Sherk and Herpys out of the UFC for good.

Kenny Florian the lightweight champ?

They should strip the title from Sherk and give it back to Florian. Look at that guy you know he isn’t no roid head. Props to KF for putting up a better fight than Franca did.

Man, that is really disappointing though. They should give both of them a kick in the @$$ with their suspension. What a couple of boneheads.

The overriding issue is INJURY RECOVERY. That’s why fighters use steroids, and that is what is NOT getting addressed in most of these replies.

barry bonds has swore legs……………..give him some roids

I’ve never been this disappointed in an athlete in my life. Sherk was supposed to stand for the physical potential we all possess if we work hard enough. he was not born with unusual talent. he was supposed to be just an honest hard working guy whose obsession for success propelled him tobe one of the best fighters in the world. now I see he’s just another lying scam artist.

For me Fedor is the perfect image of a self-made fighter. He hardly had an ounce of athletic ability when he first got into Sambo, but through hard work has become the #1 p4p fighter in the world…as a heavyweight.

Fred – your logic is completely flawed. Would you suggest that we raise the legal limit of one’s blood alcohol level as DUI arests rise?

That is pretty funny stuff. I think Fred was kidding and if not he might want to start posting the WWE blog.

Now I feel really ripped off. In addition to the Minotorou/Herring and Ortiz/Evans fights being fixed, one of the better fights of the night was between two juicers. For as fast as the UFC has risen from the dead, it seems just as intent to bury itself as fast. The sport is really starting to lose every bit of respect.

Also, I would like to know if Sherk was tested before the Florian fight. Any info on this?

Simply put, the UFC needs to follow precedence. When Tim Silvia tested positive for a banned substance his belt was taken away. The same penalty should be applied to Sherk.

It doesn’t matter why he used them. He knew it was a banned substance and chose to use it anyway. Injury recovery is a lame excuse. Using roids to “heal faster” is more costly to their bodies in the long run.

If his shoulder injury was so severe that 10 months could not heal it without the use of steroids, then he should have vacated the belt until he was able to return at full health. It is totally ego driven. Other will argue that it’s about getting paid but that’s not true either. Had Sherk gave up the belt to heal he would have been able to command a massive deal upon his return to take on the current champ. Lord knows the UFC would have loved to have that marketing goldmine.

They should strip the title from Sherk and give it back to Florian. Look at that guy you know he isn’t no roid head. Props to KF for putting up a better fight than Franca did.

Man, that is really disappointing though. They should give both of them a kick in the @$$ with their suspension. What a couple of boneheads.

Give it BACK to Florian? Kenflo never held the title, so that doesn’t really make sense. And Sherk didn’t fail a drug test after beating him, so I don’t really get that argument. I say have Stevenson vs Penn for the vacant title, while having Florian fight a #1 contender match Edgar.

One thing I’m worried about is Penn winning the title, then moving right back to ww. So we’d have new belt, 1 defense, failed rug test, new champion of vacant belt, then the belt vacated yet again when moving up. Kind of chaotic for the lw division

BTW, props to Hermes for "fessing up. As for Sherk, it was a only a matter of time before he got busted.

Hermes didn’t fess up. He knew he was going to test positive, so he was trying to do some pre-emptive damage control. While I respect him for laying it all out on the table, he knew he was in trouble the moment they pulled him aside to test him, and that’s very different than fessing up.

I think its safe to say that an overwhelming majority of MMA fans feel like there is no room in the sport for steroid use. I think the UFC, and other organizations for that matter, has a responsibility to its fans (since we’re the ones who bankroll them via PPV, ticket sales, etc.) to ensure the highest quality product. Its a sad day when something like this happens, unfortunately, until the people who run the show make some serious changes, this won’t be the last time.

Fred:

Simply an excuse. There should be no mandate on how many times a fighter can fight. The fighter himself should impose whatever mandates for the necessary recovery time. Lets legalize something because they have a really good excuse, what a well thoughout idea.

Give it BACK to Florian? Kenflo never held the title, so that doesn’t really make sense. And Sherk didn’t fail a drug test after beating him, so I don’t really get that argument. I say have Stevenson vs Penn for the vacant title, while having Florian fight a #1 contender match Edgar.

One thing I’m worried about is Penn winning the title, then moving right back to ww. So we’d have new belt, 1 defense, failed rug test, new champion of vacant belt, then the belt vacated yet again when moving up. Kind of chaotic for the lw division

Was Sherk tested? I agree with an earlier comment that Penn might have only wanted to stay at lw to fight Sherk. With things now up in the air I think the chances are more slim that he will stay at lw. Plus he is now training with Joe Lauzon, so my guess is that he will look to fight one of the Matt’s rather than hang out at lw.

Now I feel really ripped off. In addition to the Minotorou/Herring and Ortiz/Evans fights being fixed, one of the better fights of the night was between two juicers. For as fast as the UFC has risen from the dead, it seems just as intent to bury itself as fast. The sport is really starting to lose every bit of respect.

Also, I would like to know if Sherk was tested before the Florian fight. Any info on this?

I’m sorry, but I have to call you out on your stupidity with this post.

Rashad/Tito:
Why the hell would the ufc fix that to be a DRAW? A draw is the most hated outcome of any fight, and no one was happy with how that one turned out. Rashad would have had huge star power had he won, and would likely have gotten a title shot. Had Tito won, he also might have got a shot at the title, and a title fight with tito in is the biggest seller the ufc has. A draw is the worst possible outcome of that fight

Nog/Herring:
If this was fixed, Herring wouldn’t have landed that kick. Not to mention the bombs he dropped after Nog went down. People focus on how he let Nog up, but that was AFTER he came in throwing bombs. He got up after Nog regained his senses (somewhat), and got back to guard. Herring has been subbed by Nog before, and knows how dangerous he is. And the ref let the fight keep going, cause he was educated about Nog. Nog has one of the best chins in mma, and has survived some of the worst beats to come back and win (Crocop, Sapp).

Also, if the ufc fixed fights we wouldn’t have Serra over GSP, Rampage over Chuck, Alexander over Jardine, or Jardine over Forrest for that matter. Randy over Sylvia is the only upset the ufc has had this year that is beneficial to the ufc from a business standpoint

Take your tin foil hat off, and use some common sense

Was Sherk tested? I agree with an earlier comment that Penn might have only wanted to stay at lw to fight Sherk. With things now up in the air I think the chances are more slim that he will stay at lw. Plus he is now training with Joe Lauzon, so my guess is that he will look to fight one of the Matt’s rather than hang out at lw.

Good point, but I don’t think it only Sherk compelling Penn to stay at lw. Penn has expressed the desire to capture the lightweight, welterweight, and middleweight belts for a while, so a title shot is something I don’t think he’d pass up. It just doesn’t seem in his nature to pass up the lightweight belt, especially with a force like Sherk being out of the picture. This is his best chance to get the title he has wanted for some time now

Gotta love the lynch-mob mentality of some posters. “STRIP THE BELT!!” LOL. Literally slobbering on their keyboards with zeal.

There are 2 realistic choices:
1) Reform the drug policy so the fighters can use SOME currently banned substances that enhance recovery time.

2) Mandate that fighters can only fight twice a year max. That will help to give everyone more recovery time for their bodies to heal naturally.

Fighters get injured constantly. That’s a fact. That’s the reality which has to be dealt with to get past this problem.
The overriding issue is INJURY RECOVERY. That’s why fighters use steroids, and that is what is NOT getting addressed in most of these replies.

Fred – How was the “Muscle Shark” injured?

The problem with steroids and cheating is that it undermines the credibility of the sport in the eyes of those that can help the sport grow. Without the growth of the sport, fighter paydays will continue to lag behind other sports that are perceived as more credible and mainstream. As long as steriods are present in mixed martial arts, it will continue to be a fringe sport. No HBO, no ESPN, forget about future aspirations of it being an Olympic sport. If the UFC doesnt do something about this, we have already seen the peak of UFC popularity and credibility.

bj should just win the vacant title(if thats what happens) then move up and win the welterweight title. if he fights either stevenson or florian, expect either to be completely dominated.

I’ve never been this disappointed in an athlete in my life. Sherk was supposed to stand for the physical potential we all possess if we work hard enough. he was not born with unusual talent. he was supposed to be just an honest hard working guy whose obsession for success propelled him tobe one of the best fighters in the world. now I see he’s just another lying scam artist.

He’s a Phony!
hey every body that guy is a phony!
He’s a big fat phony!!!

WoW! this is truly a shameful day for MMA. Not only do fighters continue to get popped for ROIDS, it’s first Champion will now be stripped his title. The UFC better take the title away. No excuse why Sherk should still remain Champ. I like the idea of a tournament style way of finding our new champ. This might be a good time to bring in a GP style format into UFC with both UFC and for mer PRIDE fighters

Nog/Herring:
If this was fixed, Herring wouldn’t have landed that kick. Not to mention the bombs he dropped after Nog went down. People focus on how he let Nog up, but that was AFTER he came in throwing bombs. He got up after Nog regained his senses (somewhat), and got back to guard. Herring has been subbed by Nog before, and knows how dangerous he is. And the ref let the fight keep going, cause he was educated about Nog. Nog has one of the best chins in mma, and has survived some of the worst beats to come back and win (Crocop, Sapp).

I agree that the fights are not fixed. However, all that says about Herring is that he is either afraid of Nog or not a very smart fighter. There were no bombs dropped following the kick. Nog went down and Herring backed off, put his hands on his hips and waited for Nog to get back up. Herring wasted a prime opportunity to erase fans memories of the O’Brien fight and again he failed.

I was not overly impressed with this card and as for Sherk and Franca they really spoiled a good fight with bad news.

There’s no way Sherk tested positive, he’s just not the type.

Are you kidding? Look at him. I have lifted all my life and anyone who lifts weights on a regular basis can tell you. No one, and I mean no one on the planet earth who looks like a Sherk, Baroni, Monson, Hamerhouse member, is NOT doing steroids. In my estimation, 95 plus percent of fighters ARE doing roids. Guys like Sherk get carried away, do 5 or 6 different types at the same time and get busted because the body did not have enough time to clear itself.

I agree that the fights are not fixed. However, all that says about Herring is that he is either afraid of Nog or not a very smart fighter. There were no bombs dropped following the kick. Nog went down and Herring backed off, put his hands on his hips and waited for Nog to get back up. Herring wasted a prime opportunity to erase fans memories of the O’Brien fight and again he failed.

I was not overly impressed with this card and as for Sherk and Franca they really spoiled a good fight with bad news.

Rewatch the fight. Nog goes down, Herring follows him down and hits him several times. Nog recovers, pulls guard, and Herring stands back up. He did let Nog off easy, but it has been GREATLY exaggerated in the coverage. I have a hard time believing most of the people commenting on that fight even watched it to be honest. I’ll post the gif of it when I get home, cause the Sherdog forums (where it was posted) are blocked at work

If they are doing ‘roids to get in shape….yep I did. I didn’t say I wasn’t lazy or deny my own massive steroid use…wait did I just type that.

haha, fair enough.

WoW! this is truly a shameful day for MMA. Not only do fighters continue to get popped for ROIDS, it’s first Champion will now be stripped his title. The UFC better take the title away. No excuse why Sherk should still remain Champ. I like the idea of a tournament style way of finding our new champ. This might be a good time to bring in a GP style format into UFC with both UFC and for mer PRIDE fighters

Wrong. Josh Barnett had his title stripped after beating couture. Tim Sylvia was also stripped of his title for roids. My guess is you started watching mma at ufc 71.

This is terrible! after all the hype about sherks trainin routine and turns out he was juiced up!! im not a huge sherk fan but he gained alot of my repsect when i saw all access, which he has now lost. and as for Franca who i thught was one of the most respectible fighters has also been added to the list of CHEATERS and lost my respect. I just don’t understand this, if he was injured y juice up? take it like a man and fight,even with the injury! Strip Sherk of the belt he doesn’t deserve it… also so we don’t have to wait a damn year for a title fight!! UFC DO WHATS RIGHT AND TAKE HIS TTILE AWAY!!!

F-ING PATHETIC IS ALL I HAVE LEFT TO SAY!!!

1. bj penn
16. leonard garcia
8. clay guida
9. marcus aurelio
4. frankie edgar
13. kurt pellegrino
5. tyson griffin
12. melvin guilliard
6. roger huerta
11. tiago tavares
3. kenny florian
14. nate diaz
10. din thomas
7. spencer fisher
2. joe stevenson
15. joe lauzon

perfect

Isn’t Melvin Guilliard is on suspension due to cocaine?

“One thing I’m worried about is Penn winning the title, then moving right back to ww. So we’d have new belt, 1 defense, failed rug test, new champion of vacant belt, then the belt vacated yet again when moving up. Kind of chaotic for the lw division”
     
Very good point here.
Perhaps promise BJ a quick title shot at 170 to get him out of the picture then Ken Flo vs Stevenson for belt?

Rewatch the fight. Nog goes down, Herring follows him down and hits him several times. Nog recovers, pulls guard, and Herring stands back up. He did let Nog off easy, but it has been GREATLY exaggerated in the coverage. I have a hard time believing most of the people commenting on that fight even watched it to be honest. I’ll post the gif of it when I get home, cause the Sherdog forums (where it was posted) are blocked at work

I just rewatched the fight and you are right he landed about 8 punches following the head kick but he jumped right off of him. My only questions are why punch when he could elbow and why not get him in full mount? He was hitting him from side mount. Even if Nog was able to get a submission there would not have been enough time left in the round to finish Herring off. He was about 2 elbows away from having the fight stopped.

http://mmafightvideos.blogspot.com/2007/07/big-nog-vs-heath-herring-3-ufc-debut.html

Wow! im very disappointed in Sherk, there definitely going to take his title

I just love the irony of a guy who calls himself “The Muscle Shark” getting caught for steriods.

Next we will learn that “The Maine-iac” is actually from Idaho, and that “Handsome” Matt Wiman had plastic surgery.

I just rewatched the fight and you are right he landed about 8 punches following the head kick but he jumped right off of him. My only questions are why punch when he could elbow and why not get him in full mount? He was hitting him from side mount. Even if Nog was able to get a submission there would not have been enough time left in the round to finish Herring off. He was about 2 elbows away from having the fight stopped.

http://mmafightvideos.blogspot.com/2007/07/big-nog-vs-heath-herring-3-ufc-debut.html

I agree a few more punches could have ended it, even if he didn’t even land them. He should have just gone batsh** on Nog, and thrown everything he had into that.

Wrong. Josh Barnett had his title stripped after beating couture. Tim Sylvia was also stripped of his title for roids. My guess is you started watching mma at ufc 71.

Look at this guy calling me out. Thanks for the history lesson bro. I worded myself wrong. I was implying the first lightweight Champ since the weight class was obsolete for awhile. No need in defending myself any further on my MMA knowledge we have had alot of your type lately. Careful who you try to school bro

I just rewatched the fight and you are right he landed about 8 punches following the head kick but he jumped right off of him. My only questions are why punch when he could elbow and why not get him in full mount? He was hitting him from side mount. Even if Nog was able to get a submission there would not have been enough time left in the round to finish Herring off. He was about 2 elbows away from having the fight stopped.

http://mmafightvideos.blogspot.com/2007/07/big-nog-vs-heath-herring-3-ufc-debut.html

Fedor mauled Nog multiple times (maybe not with a leg kick but still) and he still didn’t get knocked out. I think he was fine against Herring. He did the right thing staying on the ground and waiting for Herring to follow up (or not as the case may be).

So much for building the 155lbs class. I’m glad the sanctioning bodys’ are not only testing for performance enhancement drugs but are also punishing those who test positive! I applaud them for this.

Fedor mauled Nog multiple times (maybe not with a leg kick but still) and he still didn’t get knocked out. I think he was fine against Herring. He did the right thing staying on the ground and waiting for Herring to follow up (or not as the case may be).

That is why I said “elbows.” Look what they did to CroCop. They softened him up for that devastating kick.

Pardon the anwer back Mania. You know better than I do that we have had alot of these guys coming in to the forum lately

Look on the bright side: They weren’t caught dogfighting.

Sean “Steroid Shark” Sherk has been stripped of his title. He just doesn’t know it yet.

Sean “Steroid Shark” Sherk has been stripped of his title. He just doesn’t know it yet.

Sources?

STRIP HIM!,

KenFlo v. BJ Penn for the vacant title

Thats not a bad idea. I hate to say it, but this is the result of competition. Everyone is doing everything and anything they can to get ahead. Apparently, word is spreading that even some golfers are guilty of taking enhancing drugs. Someone needs to reinstate a sense of honor.

While not anywhere near being on the same level, I also have a problem with all of the weight dropping that goes down. If you are fighting at 155lbs, then I say you should weigh 155 lbs.

DOesn’t UFC start to look more and more like WWE?

Thats not a bad idea. I hate to say it, but this is the result of competition. Everyone is doing everything and anything they can to get ahead. Apparently, word is spreading that even some golfers are guilty of taking enhancing drugs. Someone needs to reinstate a sense of honor.

While not anywhere near being on the same level, I also have a problem with all of the weight dropping that goes down. If you are fighting at 155lbs, then I say you should weigh 155 lbs.

No doubt look at American baseball, football and basketball. I wouldn’t doubt there’s a bunch of athletes doing shit. And those guys are getting big moneys.

After learning Sherk’s payday was less than $30k for this fight. It is a true shame all the buzz about thier steroid use will deminish any chance for these fighters or other fighters who don’t use steroids to get the payday they deserve. With all the cost they must have for training and help and other expenses, I wonder how they live and frankly it is surprising they can afford the roids! I have no idea how much they cost I guess they are as cheap as the UFC! PAY THE FIGHTERS SOME MONEY reguardless of wait class. 30k for a title bout seems utterly laughable. Reguardless of that these fighters could take one from a recovering addict, “NO MATTER WHAT DONT USE!!!!”

It’s a shame…lets move on, Pride was known for it’s badd ass tournaments, I think it would be a good to have a lightweight tournament. Even include some Pride guys over for a shot. This division is totally stacked with some great fights and a lot of money to be made. It’s a great idea!!!

This sucks, Sean Sherk was quickly becoming a fighter I respected, especially after seeing how hard he trained. Well, he just lost a fan.

Figures sooner or later,. crap like this would start happening. It does in every sport really.

There’s no way Sherk tested positive, he’s just not the type

I’m assuming this is sarcasm. He looks like a total frkin ‘roid head. I know he’s a workout monkey but is this really a surprise to anyone? I didn’t know the extent of testing nor its sophistication in the UFC. I just assumed everyone was on them. You don’t look like Sherk, Coleman, Randleman, etc. without juicing. Then there are the guys you wouldn’y necessarily expect…Hoyce! I say juice away, not my health. As for juice spreading like wild fire because fighters are setting a bad example: give me a break. Most youngsters will realize MMA ain’t for them after the fist time they get punched in the face. And for those guys on the fringe that are “forced” to take it need it to stay competative, oh well. Can’t teach talent or technique. If it were all about strength, Kimo Slice would be the man.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/4515/steroidsrh4.jpg

Not my doing, saw this on the Sherdog forums :D

I’m sorry, but I have to call you out on your stupidity with this post.
Rashad/Tito:
Why the hell would the ufc fix that to be a DRAW? A draw is the most hated outcome of any fight, and no one was happy with how that one turned out. Rashad would have had huge star power had he won, and would likely have gotten a title shot. Had Tito won, he also might have got a shot at the title, and a title fight with tito in is the biggest seller the ufc has. A draw is the worst possible outcome of that fight
Nog/Herring:
If this was fixed, Herring wouldn’t have landed that kick. Not to mention the bombs he dropped after Nog went down. People focus on how he let Nog up, but that was AFTER he came in throwing bombs. He got up after Nog regained his senses (somewhat), and got back to guard. Herring has been subbed by Nog before, and knows how dangerous he is. And the ref let the fight keep going, cause he was educated about Nog. Nog has one of the best chins in mma, and has survived some of the worst beats to come back and win (Crocop, Sapp).
Also, if the ufc fixed fights we wouldn’t have Serra over GSP, Rampage over Chuck, Alexander over Jardine, or Jardine over Forrest for that matter. Randy over Sylvia is the only upset the ufc has had this year that is beneficial to the ufc from a business standpoint
Take your tin foil hat off, and use some common sense

This my posting immediately following UFC 73. I stand by it 100%. As far as your common sense argument goes…

Herring Fight
The Herring fight was a total disgrace. He caught Big Nog square with the kick and destroyed him. The fight certainly should have been stopped as Big Nog was laid out and totally unable to block any of the strikes. Then, of course, for no reason whatsoever, Herring backs off and does not do another thing the entire fight. It should be obvious to anyone with half of brain that Herring was told not to win the fight. He did nothing but throw a joke combination with that headkick. The only reason it landed was b/c Big Nog made a huge mistake and bent into it. This fight set the tone for the entire night. By the way, the break after the first round has got to be a record.

Sherk Fight
This guy is just an animal that should be recognized as one of the best in the game.

Tito Fight
What a joke. Big John actually stopped the fight out of nowhere so Evans’ mouthpiece to be cleaned. The stoppage was forever. I have never seen this. As to the cage grab, watch any fight with a wrestler and his opponent does it always. Tito dominated that fight except for the final 15 seconds. Big John is to fault. Tito was the larger, more active, and superior fighter. Of course, at the end of the fight, instead of being outraged, Tito kissed the ring of Dana White (who was nowhere to be seen all night) and then talked about his jet.

SO DID ANYONE HEAR JOE ROGAN DURING I BELIEVE IT WAS THE 4TH ROUND OF SHERK V FRANCA, WHEN HE WAS WAS SAYING “YOUNG MARTIAL ARTIST AT HOME, LOOK AT THIS GUY, LOOK AT HIS DEDICATION AND DRIVE” AND JUST SAYING ALL THIS STUFF ABOUT WORK ETHIC. BUT NOW.. JEEZ. I THINK HE’S ONE OF THE WORST EXAMPLES FOR YOUNG MARTIAL ARTISTS. THIS IS SO DISAPPOINTING I WAS SO IMPRESSED BY HIM IN HIS LAST FIGHT..

it could be worse.
It could have been Royce Gracie again.

They should not strip Sherk of the title, and just do an interm championship.

How does this sound.

KenFlo/Gomi vs. BJ Penn.

I’m assuming this is sarcasm. He looks like a total frkin ‘roid head. I know he’s a workout monkey but is this really a surprise to anyone? I didn’t know the extent of testing nor its sophistication in the UFC. I just assumed everyone was on them. You don’t look like Sherk, Coleman, Randleman, etc. without juicing. Then there are the guys you wouldn’y necessarily expect…Hoyce! I say juice away, not my health. As for juice spreading like wild fire because fighters are setting a bad example: give me a break. Most youngsters will realize MMA ain’t for them after the fist time they get punched in the face. And for those guys on the fringe that are “forced” to take it need it to stay competative, oh well. Can’t teach talent or technique. If it were all about strength, Kimo Slice would be the man.

Hey Kimbo is fighting Tank Abott next :D Too bad mania won’t cover him :{

he did look a little to unstoppable ,guess thats why.

Man, what a shocker……..holy shite, never crossed my mind, its sad to me I liked sherk, shite, guess penn will be the next title holder no real challenges.

If they could have only seen the big picture, there much worse off now.

There’s no way Sherk tested positive, he’s just not the type.

C’mon get real. His physical prowess is the reason why is the champ. He isn’t even that skilled. He sure can wrestle I’ll give him that.

But I said it to a friend that if Sherk doesn’t test positive no one will. It’s a shame because he does seem like a genuine nice guy.

lmao…You really don’t get that big eating organic veg and fruit, total b.s.

Roided to the max. Did someone say Matt Hughes?…

I can only laugh at Sherk the way he was laughing at St. Pierre when he lost. What a loser! I wonder if he was on roids when St. Pierre dominated his midget ass. This means no boring ass fights with Sherk for at least a year. Sweet.

I also see in many tests that athletes using Nandralone can test 100x higher than the normal amount in the body and it also possible that meat raised using steriods specifically pork can boost these numbers as well.

It depends on who you ask…There are certainly dudes out there that would argue you can get to 12 ng (Sherk’s level) without injecting a steroid. They are certainly worse cases – like Gracie, who was something like 50-60 or C.J. Hunter, who I think was off the chart. That being said, 12 is still high, and I think I’ve read about cyclists nabbed for ending up in the 5-6 range.

lol…CJ Hunter was probably around 1000. What about Dennis Mitchell. Apologies for tracking Hughes name through the mire but I would like to see him get tested. There’s just a few question marks there for me.

lol at myself I meant dragging. How did that happen.

This is going to make it a lot harder for anyone to deny that there is a serious drug problem in MMA and that the major promotions such as the UFC need to test everyone themselves in addition to all of the athletic commission testing. Events like the UFC 73 where the commission tests everyone are the exception, not the norm. It’s far more common to have four or six fighters on the entire card tested, or zero in the case of UFC 69 and UFC 70.

Also, it costs less than $300 per fighter to test for banned stimulants, steroids, and recreational drugs, which makes it all the more ridiculous that less than half of the fighters are typically tested, and that there is no testing done at unexpected, random times.

Are fighters really this deperate to stay at the top of the food chain? Willing to risk everything for just a little extra boost. Damn, just test everybody from now on.

But Sherk has looked this muscular for years and always past his roid test before. maybe today’s test results were caused by some kind of natural anomaly.

I am uterly disapointed and disgusted.. :/
This is a sad day for MMA.. especially after all the hype the UFC gave Sherk with his eating/training making the difference in the cage.. I really hate dishonesty and Sherk just went from my fav 155.. to someone i couldn’t care less if i saw fight again.

Florian vs Penn.. imo there is no 2 fighters more deserving of the title right now.

Strip that scum sherk for cheating his aponants from a fair match.

oh and btw 2500$ is not enough.. it should be a 10k fine.

FN Cheaters…

Wow is this the first time I see 180 comments on this :D

That is sooo gay! Sean Sherk WAS my favorite fighter. So much for hard work paying off! I doubt he really cares about what his fans think but that is seriously a big let down. I think they should take his title away!

Shouldn’t Joe Daddy be ahead of K-Flo at this point? Yves Edwards, Mishima, and Guillard were quality wins, while K-Flo has only beaten Mishima and Robinson since his lost to Sherk.

Wow this is very sad news tssk

Right on. This is a sign, it is Penn’s time.

I am sad to read this about Sherk. I liked and respected the guy, particularly his dedication in the weight room and his strict diet. As someone who is a runner, but loves MMA as a fan and looks with great admiration at the training routine of MMA fighters, all I can say is that Sherk let a lot of people down.
He should be stripped of his title and suspended for a year. There is no reason at all to allow him to retain his title, and I think the fairest thing to do would be to have Daddy fight K-flo for the vacant lightweight title. Sherk claims he wanted to be a role model, but he has failed in the worst possible way. By being a cheater Sherk has brought shame on himself, and unfortunately, on MMA which was doing quite well until this steroid use became public. The UFC better get a grip on this if they want to retain the momentum they built up over the past five years.

I stand corrected, it should be Penn vs. K-flo for the vacant belt.

I genuwinely want to cry right now … Sean Sherk is my Shoeless Joe Jackson … Say it aint so Sean, say it aint so

He was one of the main reasons why I was so excited to see a new lightweight division because he is so freakin dominant. Im crushed.

It becomes very obvious right now that BJ Penn will ight Joe Stevenson for the vacant UFC lighweight championship.

There is still no doubt in my mind that Sean Sherk would have beat BJ. We willl certainly never know now.

It almost doesn’t surprise me that Sherk tested postive. He was complaing about a shoulder injury and after comimg back from surgery i guess he was still on them and training at the same time. I wonder what it will do to his body?

Background: Nandrolone is one of the most abused anabolic steroids, and its use in doping is increasing, as revealed by numerous positive cases during recent years in various sports. Different authors have reported the possible natural production of nandrolone metabolites in humans, and some of these authors argued that exhaustive exercise could increase nandrolone production in the body or induce dehydration and consequently lead to an increase of nandrolone metabolites in urine.

Other hypotheses are that some nutritional supplements contain traces of the steroids or prohormones, such as other norsteroids, not indicated on the label. Indeed, various studies have demonstrated that the consumption of some noncertified nutritional supplements may give rise to nandrolone metabolites in urine samples at concentrations higher than the respective cutoff values.

SUPPLEMENTS A LA XYIENCE TESTOSTERONE …..

Im sure Sean Sherk was taking some form of a steroid, definitly in pill form, doesnt come off as a guy who sticks needles in his ass.

But be mindful of this, supplements often contain other ingredients of which are not listed on the label, some even contain “not approved by the FDA” on the label, XYIENCE TESTOSTERONE says testosterone !!!! on the package lol what do you think is in it ? The UFC condones these supplements I mean helloooo ?

Combining chemicals can lead to higher levels of anything including testosterone or even Nandrolone which is what popped up on the radar following Sherk’s test. You will also find upon further research that with increased exercise (UFC ALL Access shows how hard he trains) levels came further increase. Combine that with dehydration, YOU PROBABLY WILL TEST POSITIVE LIKE A BARRY BONDS.

Typical Hypocritical Dana White turns his face from what goes on like Bud Selig then tries to take a tough stance haha.

ANYONE SEE THE TRAINING THAT SHERK DOES? THEY DID ALMSOT A WHOLE SHOW ON IT AND HYPED UP HOW GOOD HE WAS AND HOW HARD HE TRAINS. I sat there and thought damn ho the hell does this guy do this. WELL NOW I KNOW!! he was all roided out and on Roid Rage! Now hes gonna get his belt stripped from him…UH OH!!! PUT HIS FAMILY IN PROTECTIVE CUSTODY!! I FEEL ANOTHER BENOIT COMIN!

By the way Sean Sherk could certainly have been on perscription medication which doctors can perscribe. Doctors can perscribe numerous forms of steroids. Anyone forget he had extensive shoulder surgery.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOO Now I remember you bafoons !!!!

If they were perscribed than he can by state commision be pardoned to a degree but will still ultimately serve some form of a suspension maybe without a fine.

By the way Sean Sherk could certainly have been on perscription medication which doctors can perscribe. Doctors can perscribe numerous forms of steroids. Anyone forget he had extensive shoulder surgery.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOO Now I remember you bafoons !!!!

If they were perscribed than he can by state commision be pardoned to a degree but will still ultimately serve some form of a suspension maybe without a fine.

Yeah, those crazy doctor prescribed steroids that stay in your system for 5 years.

C’mon get real. His physical prowess is the reason why is the champ. He isn’t even that skilled. He sure can wrestle I’ll give him that.

But I said it to a friend that if Sherk doesn’t test positive no one will. It’s a shame because he does seem like a genuine nice guy.

lmao…You really don’t get that big eating organic veg and fruit, total b.s.

Roided to the max. Did someone say Matt Hughes?…

Oh come on now, Hughes’s power comes purely from his country breakfast :D

I’m still of the mindset that until you test positive, you can’t just assume everyone is on roids. However, that is becoming harder and harder as time goes on. Who is the next big fighter to test positive?

2007 was supposed to be the year of the upset, but not even close any more. It is the year of the cheater

Steroid Scum Shark Shrek…Total fu&kin’ pussy.

BJ all the way. The division is loaded. Lws I like watching are:

BJ, Florian, Stevenson, Huerta, Guida, Griffin, (Eve Edwards, Caol Uno…where are these guys at the moment, bring them back), Faber though he’s 145 lbs and WEC. Gomi, Lauzon and many others. Kid Yamamoto vs. Faber at 145 would be amazing. Can’t happen unless the UFC makes a new division and not until 2009 at the earliest.

Are you kidding? Look at him. I have lifted all my life and anyone who lifts weights on a regular basis can tell you. No one, and I mean no one on the planet earth who looks like a Sherk, Baroni, Monson, Hamerhouse member, is NOT doing steroids. In my estimation, 95 plus percent of fighters ARE doing roids. Guys like Sherk get carried away, do 5 or 6 different types at the same time and get busted because the body did not have enough time to clear itself.

Mike you are right I would say 95 percent do steroids. But I think Monson is all natural and Von Flue is on roids.

DOesn’t UFC start to look more and more like WWE?

Yeah big style…Tito is heel, Randy babyface…Rampage people’s champ. Ken Shamrock is Ken Shamrock.

No the steroids…lol…yeah, maybe the WWE could hire Sherk to fight Doink or Dink whichever one the midget clown was. Or Finlay’s leprauchaun.

He’d probably get paid better too.

Mike you are right I would say 95 percent do steroids. But I think Monson is all natural and Von Flue is on roids.

Yeah, I agree totally. That ridiculous overly vascular look is a telltale sign.

it is quite interesting, that sherk only tested 12 nanograms of nandrolone when the amount for an average person is around 2-3 nanograms and the amount for a athlete can be as high as 6 nanograms.

i think it is quite possible that sean sherk naturally produced that amount of nandrolone as many studies have shown that :

According to a University of Aberdeen study, nandrolone detection can result in a false positive if the subject has engaged in a cardio-intensive regimen coupled with excessive protein and creatine intake; it’s theoretically possible that eating steroid-tainted beef could also influence scores.

in addition royce gracie who was tested, was found to have a nadrolone level of 50 nanograms per milliliter.

I really hope he’s innocent and perhaps many of us here have jumped the gun so to speak but I honestly feel that this looks ominous. 7,8,9 even, but 12, I don’t know.

It’s sad.

Guilty until proven innocent.

The “Proven” part was when they Dr. and medical experts took samples and found steroids there. Rookie.

Sherk is a pussy, cant handle the big boys, so he drops to 55 and gets all juiced up to man-handle the little guys, such a pussy.

The sadest part of this story is now we cant see BJ kicks this guys ass.

OK IF THEY ALL TEST POSITIVE THAT MAKES THE FEILD EVEN RIGHT? I SAY LET THEM JUICE THERE ASSES OFF SO WE CAN GET SOME BRUTAL KNOCKOUTS AND KILLER SUBMISSIONS.. SCREW IT.. WHEN IN ROME DO AS THE ROMANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LETS FACE IT GUYS WE DONT WATCH THE SPORT TO SEE NORMAL JOES FIGHTING. WE WANT SOME FREAK KNOCKING FOOLS OUT. IF WE WANTED NORMAL WE WOULD HANGOUT AT THE BAR DOWN THE STREET.

No one that little rat was able to train so damn hard i thought he wasnt human now i know he really wasnt human!