Holding the fence! Holding the fence! Holding the fence!

Come the F*CK on Rashad, you proved to everyone at UFC 73 that you aren’t ready for the next level of LHWs. Check the blog boards, even many of your fans are saying despite the fence, Tito was the better man AND they hate Tito.

As I’m sure you already know this deep down (or let’s at least hope to God you do), Tito owned your sorry ass. If you want to get on Tito for holding the fence, then how do you explain getting your BIG CHANCE to prove yourself as an elte LHW fighter in the UFC and waste it dancing around the ring like “Sugar” Shane Mosley, when you promised to give Tito and the fans this supposed “war” performance.

Better get started on your training because your performance was pathetic and all of this post-match trash talk and excuses is making your fighting stock PLUMMET, trust me.

I hope you really bring it in the rematch because I know that Tito will, and just as I did at UFC 73, I am going to stand proudly in support of the Huntington Beach Bad Boy.

LIGHTS OUT Rashad, and this time Tito will leave NO DOUBT!

Did anybody see the post fight press conference? Looks like Rashad is already trying to hype up the fight and play minds games for the rematch.

Personally, I don’t see this fight or the rematch being one that defines either fighter as “top contenders” at 205. Rashad has yet to impress me, and even beating Tito Ortiz won’t do that. Ortiz is on the decline and hasn’t beaten anybody significant in years. If Rashad wins the fight and goes up against any of the top tier guys, he’ll be destroyed. Same with Tito. I’m suprised he lasted as long as he did in his rematch with Chuck.

Tito/Rashad .. UFC 76? That show doesn’t have a definite main event fight yet, would make sense, right?

It better not be a main event!! This fight is NOT worthy of being a main event. No Way. Especially after thier lackluster performance this weekend. I was really looking forward to this fight, and I’m really not looking forward to the rematch. It can be a prelim for all I care. Rashad looked tiny compared to Tito. Greg Jackson and his damn mountain are really starting to overwork his fighters. Nate weighed in 3 lbs below.

Greg Jackson and his damn mountain

hahah i dunno why but I found that strangely amusing.

Tito/Rashad .. UFC 76? That show doesn’t have a definite main event fight yet, would make sense, right?

Damn I guess a potential shogun/ortiz fight is now scrapped.

I agree with ViolentMike. I’d prefer this fight not be a main event. They are just going to end up making out by the fence trying to decide who is going to be on top. I’m tired of Tito Ortiz and all the drama.

I plan on making the trip to NJ for the event. I sure as hell hope this fight doesn’t make the card, let alone the main event. Tito and Rashad are too similar in styles to have an interesting fight. I’d rather not see the rematch at all.

This is a fight, much like the Ortiz/Shamrock II bout, that left some fans disappointed. Lets have the rematch free on SpikeTV. It would be a great way to draw new fans and blow some ratings records out of the water.

I started hating Rashad for his disrespectful attitude and big mouth. I would like to see him get beaten down in his next fight. He is evolving to be a hated fighter! Quinton Jackson or Mauricio Rua, both, can be a good match-up for him and perhaps would tear him apart in less than 1 minute!

this better be a free UFN event. i’m not paying to watch this fight again

Rashad was definitely timid for the first 2 rounds of the fight but it wasn’t like Tito did much with his opportunities. Tito had him down a few times and didn’t even try to “punish” him like he said. He just laid there. Tito was trying to get by with just doing enough to squeek out a decision. I think Tito has peaked and he knows it. He hasn’t improved at all over the past few fights.

I agree that Rashad was not impressive at all and that he didn’t come with the same intensity that he normally does. I think the big stage did intimidate him a little but I think he’ll come around and he has much more potential to grow than Tito does. Rashad has a solid foundation with his skills and they’ll continue to get better. If Rashad could have taken Tito down in the 2nd like he would have had Tito not grabbged the fence…it would have gone to Rashad cause as we saw in the 3rd…Rashad has better ground and pound skills than Ortiz.

I don’t think that a rematch does much for either fighter in terms of the rankings anymore. I think this is just a ratings fight and I’ll watch it but I don’t think it proves as much anymore. The rematch will not live up to the hype just like this fight.

this better be a free UFN event. i’m not paying to watch this fight again

HERE HERE!!!!

Tito controlled the fight for the first 12 minutes or so. One nice sequence to end the fight was all Evans had. He’s fortunate to get another shot.

OTOH, Tito gets fed another mediocre opponent for a nice payday. The last thing he wants is to have to face Liddell again, or Shogun, Jackson, or Henderson. Tito’s definitely in decline.

This isn’t a PPV headliner. It should no doubt be on a Fight Night. It just wasn’t a very good fight.

Once Rashad started fighting like he believed that he belonged in the ring with Tito he did very well. He stuffed all Tito’s takedowns and clearly had the better stand-up. And for everyone ripping Rashad for complaining about Tito’s fence grabbing — it’s a rule, and it’s there for a reason. Rashad had Tito in the air for slams on several occasions before Tito cheated his way out of them. Criticizing Rashad for complaining about that is like telling him not to whine just because Tito kicked him in the jewels four times in a row.

I started hating Rashad more and more everyday! a draw and decisions over no names! plus he runs his mouth as if like a top knotch! he was taken down and should have lost.

PW, if you think Rashad ‘stuffed Tito’s take downs.. and clearly had better standup’ watch the Fight again. Rashad showed he wasnt ready for a championship caliber opponent. Im saying this and I really dont like Tito… but Tito ran that fight the first 10mins… and lost cause he grabbed the cage (cause a draw is a loss…)
Funny thing is, Rashad couldnt lose points for wineing about the knee to the groin, when it was his stomache… because he lost the round.

Those judges should be banned. Tito is gonna rip up Rashad with a lil more pressing standup, unless I was the only one that realized Tito was taking a more defensive punching standpoint?

They shouldn’t charge for this rematch! They don’t deserve to milk it for another payday. Spike TV just like the last Ortiz/Shamrock fight.

Tito was by far the better fighter. He got the better of the stand up. Evans looked very sloppy and didnt land anything solid until third. Which was still not impressive. What I’m about to say I never thought I would be given reason to say but here it is.

Could our sport be bought with limitations? The Ortiz/Evans fight was too shady for me. Ortiz looked great in the first. Securing immediate takedowns, better hands, looked like he could finish the fight at any given time. He looked far more superior than Rashad. Second round of course he gets dinged for the fence deal. So What! It happens all the time. First time I have ever seen it get called so quickly. Point being it made it a 9/9 round with Ortiz still being the more dominant fighter through the round. At this point is when my mind wondered. I reverted back to a pre fight interview comment Evans made. I believe he said “(Ortiz)He only has two fights left on his contract and he has to fight me” Key claim there being 2 fights left. I can’t help but to question if Ortiz is being forced out, bowing out, or bought out? Ortiz throws us all off with his animated character and the claims to be in his prime, and that he will be around for many years to come. Is that future with the UFC? Or with someone else? There was rumors that Tito was claiming to want to go to PRIDE. Could Ortiz be the new puzzle piece to get PRIDE going again? I don’t think so. I honestly think PRIDE will be six feet under soon. I hate to say this but I think our sport has been corrupted. At this point maybe not everyone is on board, which is usually how it begins. Think about boxing…when it was pure and then the point where you can guess what was going to happen next. And now look at boxing. Are we heading that way?

Back to the fight…..The third begins and all I could think is Rashad is going to win this round which will make it a draw. Sure enough Ortiz comes out real sluggish and takes a couple solid shots to the chin. End of the round Evans gets the takedown and secures the 10/9 round. Bullshit! How convenient now that Ortiz has one fight left on current contract he gets immediate rematch with Evans. I’m predicting Evans gets the Win next time around.

Rampage/Hendo go at it at 75 in London. Who was supposed to fight the winner? Shogun will barely be in the mix at 76, Liddell needs a tune up fight, and Silva is still holding out. Evans is supposed to be the guy to go next, but he’ not a top 5 even top 7 guy but the UFC needs one of these TUF guys to compete for a title at some point. So there puppy dog dont all look like second tier fighters. Rumor was that winner of Ortiz/Evans gets winner of Rampage/Hendo. With a draw it sets things up a little better. I hope that this is a reach, because I love this sport. But….It was so predictable. Let me know what you all think. I’m not saying it’s bought off or completely corrupt the way boxing is, but there are signs. And all great sports start the same way. Could Ortiz be finishing contract to take front office job. Afterall the man is a marketing genuis, and his popularity hate’em or lov’em is huge for the sport. Regardless of the outcome this is not good for our sport.

maybe tito buying that complex from de la hoya and living there was a bad idea, his conditioning was garbage on saturday, maybe he’s getting lazy by training at home, he needs to get back to where he used to be cardio wise or he’s in trouble in the rematch, i don’t see rashad taking the same cautious approach he took at 73 in the rematch, i think he’s gonna come right at ortiz, and tito needs to be ready to go hard for 3 rounds…c’mon tito, block everything else out man and show your fans you still want it, train hard and shut this bum rashad the f up…

maybe tito buying that complex from de la hoya and living there was a bad idea, his conditioning was garbage on saturday, maybe he’s getting lazy by training at home, he needs to get back to where he used to be cardio wise or he’s in trouble in the rematch, i don’t see rashad taking the same cautious approach he took at 73 in the rematch, i think he’s gonna come right at ortiz, and tito needs to be ready to go hard for 3 rounds…c’mon tito, block everything else out man and show your fans you still want it, train hard and shut this bum rashad the f up…

I sure hope that was the issue Spida. I like Ortiz alot and I want to see him where he deserves to be. I hope my guess above is incorrect

maybe tito buying that complex from de la hoya and living there was a bad idea, his conditioning was garbage on saturday, maybe he’s getting lazy by training at home, he needs to get back to where he used to be cardio wise or he’s in trouble in the rematch, i don’t see rashad taking the same cautious approach he took at 73 in the rematch, i think he’s gonna come right at ortiz, and tito needs to be ready to go hard for 3 rounds…c’mon tito, block everything else out man and show your fans you still want it, train hard and shut this bum rashad the f up…

I could agree, Tito did look pretty winded by the 3rd, prolly cause of the HUGE BEATING RASHAD GAVE HIM (joke.) But you’re right…he didnt look as conditioned. Maybe cause of Jenna’s botched vag surgeory he cant get his favorite cardio, or this suspected and supposed back injury that was ‘holding him back from training.’

PW, if you think Rashad ‘stuffed Tito’s take downs.. and clearly had better standup’ watch the Fight again. Rashad showed he wasnt ready for a championship caliber opponent. Im saying this and I really dont like Tito… but Tito ran that fight the first 10mins… and lost cause he grabbed the cage (cause a draw is a loss…)
Funny thing is, Rashad couldnt lose points for wineing about the knee to the groin, when it was his stomache… because he lost the round.

Those judges should be banned. Tito is gonna rip up Rashad with a lil more pressing standup, unless I was the only one that realized Tito was taking a more defensive punching standpoint?

Tito would have been slammed several times except for grabbing the cage. Who knows what Rashad would have done to him from side mount. I think Tito was lucky to get out with a draw. If Rashad gets those slams he would have at least won a decision if he didn’t pound Tito out.

I wasn’t complaining on Rashad’s behalf about an actual low blow (there wasn’t one). I was making a comparison between cheating by grabbing the fence and cheating by repeated nut shots to make a point.

Tito fought like crap…but Rashad fought even worseee, there’s no way Rashad is a top 10 in LH and still needs to prove himself..i used to like him but after his arrogant attitude after this performance, it’s insaneeee how good he thinks he is..hopefully the rematch will be sickkkk…

it was strange to see tito gassed in the third round like that. He didn’t even seem that tired in the 3rd against liddell and he took a far worse beating ( in the first round right off the bat ) in that fight.

it’s sad to see tito slipping. I’m not really a fan of his but he is one of the best known names in the sport and I’m sure has been a big part of marketing it.

hopefully he has one good fight left in him for the viewers’ sake.

I was so looking forward to see Rashad give Tito a run for his money but Sugar didn’t even bother to show up for the damn fight! WTF?!?! This kid finally gets his big shot to show us what he’s got against a top-tier opponent and he never even bothered to mount a damn offense! Instead, he seemed content to play patty-cakes while dancing around in a circle. Was he so concerned about being taken down that he was afraid to even throw a punch? I was rooting for Rashad the whole time but he completely deserved to lose that fight. I’ll never understand how an up-and-coming fighter can show up to the biggest fight of their career and then succumb to timidity. What the f*ck does he have to lose?!? That fight was as bad as Sanchez/Koschek. Where’s Dana with his “do you want to be a f*cking fighter?” speech when you need him?

And I don’t buy the big stage being an intimidation factor for Rashad. His last fight against Salmon was the main event of the night with him being the main draw…and that was his 6th UFC fight. I don’t think ‘jitters’ had anything to do with it. He just looked scared and out of his league. And after that piss poor performance, he still had the balls to talk sh!t during the post-fight press conference! What a putz! I lost a whole lot of respect for Rashad this past weekend. And as much as I hate Tito “Mangled Meat Curtains” Ortiz, if Rashad doesn’t come out agressive with guns a blazing from the very start of the rematch, I’ll be rooting for Jennito to GnP his ass back to the WEC.

As for the fence thing…I don’t think it was a premature call at all. BJM didn’t penalize Tito until he had prevented at least a half dozen takedowns/slams by holding the fence. Even AFTER warning Tito that he would lose a point if he grabbed the fence again, BJM gave Tito 2-3 more fence grabs before he finally deducted the point.

I said all along everyone was underestimating Tito,the only TUF winner who can beat him is Bisping,Tito was way stronger then Rashad and he just looked too much for him,I just wish he hadnt got that point taken away,ive seen fighters let off with worse.
Rashad came across like an absolute twat in the pre fight conference and even worse post fight,breaking wind into the mic and making out he was better then Tito.
Rashad should now of lost any fans he did have.

Tito’s new words to live by.
“If you’re not cheating you’re not trying”

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please no main card.if they leave it up to the judges cut their pay in half.

I don’t like either one of these guys, but if Rashad was talking shit in the post fight comments, then that kid is a moron. You don’t win a fight but flaying your arms around like a praying mantis and refusing to engage. Rashad was all Johnny bad ass until Tito shot in and got ahold of him. Tito won the striking, despite how lackluster it was. Tito’s cardio was crap, I’ve never seen him gas like that. If he was conditioned like he normally was he would have taken Rashad down again at will in the third. Yes Tito grabbed the fence way to many times (and was rightfully deducted a point), but Rashad also grabbed the fence on one occasion. Overall the fight sucked and I really don’t have an interest in watching them again.

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please no main card.if they leave it up to the judges cut their pay in half.

Titos Fights are usually left in the hands of the judges so dana should deduct his pay all of the time, ortiz is a boring fighter and evans almost finished him in the third and ortiz grabbed the fence like 6 times should have had two points deducted.

Can anyone tell me what he was doing when he farted into the mic in the interview,talk about over confidence,you all say Bispings overconfident but I can tell you your never gonna see him fart into the mic like that,now Rashad has showed how he hasnt got what it takes to be champ he can start a new UFC,The Ultimate Farting Championship.

Tito whooped up on Rasghad the entire fight, dont really have much more to say. Its unfortunate that he had a point deducted and also Rashad got a meaningless takedown in the final seconds of the third round which miraculously won him the round, go figure. No doubt Tito wins the rematch !

I said all along everyone was underestimating Tito,the only TUF winner who can beat him is Bisping,Tito was way stronger then Rashad and he just looked too much for him,I just wish he hadnt got that point taken away,ive seen fighters let off with worse.
Rashad came across like an absolute twat in the pre fight conference and even worse post fight,breaking wind into the mic and making out he was better then Tito.
Rashad should now of lost any fans he did have.

Absolutely, Rashad lost me as a fan and of course many others. He proved he is a complete shit talker with zero performance.
He hasn’t taken any name that rings a bell with fans plus he trying way across the room to be a superstar by shit talking and being a complete idiot. He was saved by the bell many times, if not the bell he would have been done.

Both fighters let me down, rashad appeared to be a first day school kid and tito did damn nothing.
If rashad isn’t so frightened in the rematch he will probably win a unanimous decision.

It better not be a main event!! This fight is NOT worthy of being a main event. No Way. Especially after thier lackluster performance this weekend. I was really looking forward to this fight, and I’m really not looking forward to the rematch. It can be a prelim for all I care. Rashad looked tiny compared to Tito. Greg Jackson and his damn mountain are really starting to overwork his fighters. Nate weighed in 3 lbs below.

I dont know about that. Rashad looked a lot more fresh at the end of that fight than tito did and his cardio is world class.

Most of you guys are transparent. If you picked Tito to win the fight then you are super critical of the way Rashad fought and his post fight comments. Vice-versa if you picked Rashad to win you are super critical of the way Tito fought and what he had to say post fight. Now what a surprise your minds haven’t changed about who you think will win the rematch. I say who gives a rat’s ass about this fight. I couldn’t care less about either of these two guys. I would only watch if it was free or part of some great card. I hate the way Rashad predicted a second round KO, yet didn’t try to make it happen. I also hate the way Tito said he was injury free a few days before the fight and was in the best shape of his life. He loses and suddenly it’s because he had back problems. F the both of them who cares.

I give the first fight to Rashad despite it being ruled a draw. I base that on the way Tito cheated and how he looked after the fight.

Tito did deserve that point deduction, but other fighters have definitely gotten away with more. My first thought after that fight was that Tito’s public shit-talking about Dana White is coming back to bite him in the ass.

I’m not saying that anything was fixed, but how difficult is it for Dana to tell Big John not to cut Tito any slack at all? Hence, the extra long break to replace Rashad’s mouthpiece, the point deduction, the premature stand ups when Tito has control, etc.

And if anyone thinks that Herring/Nog fight wasn’t fixed by somebody, I think you’re insane.

I don’t see rashad competing against Chuck liddell, Quinton Jackson, Wanderlei Silva, Mauricio Rua, Dan Henderson, and even against Houston Alexander. Rashad should drop to 185 to compete, he is a complete idiot with a disgusting personality. I would like to see him beaten so he could shut his big obnoxious mouth.

I don’t see rashad competing against Chuck liddell, Quinton Jackson, Wanderlei Silva, Mauricio Rua, Dan Henderson, and even against Houston Alexander. Rashad should drop to 185 to compete, he is a complete idiot with a disgusting personality. I would like to see him beaten so he could shut his big obnoxious mouth.

Lol, you were right on with the first sentance…
Rashad dropping to 185 is next to impossible, remember, this guy is originally a heavyweight.
And as far as a disgusting personality, I dont know how you came up with this opinion, although Im sure you have a ton of base for it.

I think the only reason Tito was tired in the 3rd was he was getting tired of watching Rashad slowly move away from him and dance around the octagon.

Watching someone dance like that for 15 min makes me tired sometimes too!

Holy Rashad bashing! It was just one fight. Neither fighter did much in the fight to earn a decisive win. There were no signs of any dominance for either fighter really. Tito scored some takedowns and laid on top of Rashad a few times. He was timid standing up just like Rashad was. The fence grabbing was excessive and if you watch the fight again you can hear BJM telling Tito around 4 times to watch the fence grabbing and told him twice he was going to deduct points and yet Tito did it continuously. It wasn’t a surprise. I think it cost Rashad a couple of takedowns in the 2nd and who knows what would have happened then. The third round was Tito’s opportunity to take Rashad out and make up for his stupid mistake but he gassed hard. I agree that Rashad should watch his mouth and just shut it after that performance. I knew Tito would talk about his injuries after the fight…he always does. Neither one of these fighters showed anything that would put them near the top 10 in the LHW division. Hopefully they come to the rematch and really leave everything in the octagon which both of them promised the first time around but never did. I still think Rashad has a more promising career than Tito at this point though. He just needs to learn to keep his mouth shut and let Tito do all the talking…it’s the only thing he’s good at anymore.

Holding the fence! Holding the fence! Holding the fence!

Come the F*CK on Rashad, you proved to everyone at UFC 73 that you aren’t ready for the next level of LHWs. Check the blog boards, even many of your fans are saying despite the fence, Tito was the better man AND they hate Tito.

As I’m sure you already know this deep down (or let’s at least hope to God you do), Tito owned your sorry ass. If you want to get on Tito for holding the fence, then how do you explain getting your BIG CHANCE to prove yourself as an elte LHW fighter in the UFC and waste it dancing around the ring like “Sugar” Shane Mosley, when you promised to give Tito and the fans this supposed “war” performance.

Better get started on your training because your performance was pathetic and all of this post-match trash talk and excuses is making your fighting stock PLUMMET, trust me.

I hope you really bring it in the rematch because I know that Tito will, and just as I did at UFC 73, I am going to stand proudly in support of the Huntington Beach Bad Boy.

LIGHTS OUT Rashad, and this time Tito will leave NO DOUBT!

Tito was the better man because Rashad did absolutely nothing in the first 2 rounds. I think the second match will display a different Rashad Evans, onw who isn’t imtimidated by the attention and frenzy thats brought on by Tito Ortiz. By the end of the fight, all the jitters were gone and Rashad just focused on the fight, thats when we finally got a glimpse of the Rashad Evans we were expecting.

And Tito didn’t own anybody that night. Besides the initial takedown and the choke he had in round 2, he looked nothing like the dominating fighter he markets himself to be. There were countless opportunities when he could have attempted to sweep the foot for a takedown or threw an elbow in the clinch when he had Rashad on the ground. He could have hurt Rashad and instead he was merely content with tying his man up.

Make no mistake about it, Tito took the first 2 rounds on technicality, not because he was beating the crap outta someone. That’s not what I consider an “ownage”, thats just fighting not to lose. Their next fight I expet to see a less tenative Rashad and a more conditioned Tito.

And lets be honest, I don’t think Tito wants to fight Rashad again, but under the current conditions he’ll look like a chicken**** if he walked away.

Rashad could make 185…Hell Franklin was bigger at 205 and Rogan said as much. Rashad doesn’t even really cut weight. It wouldn’t be too hard. 10 days out at 198-200 he should easily make weight.

Not that I want to see Rashad at 185 or 205 or the UFC for that matter.

Why on Earth would I want to watch another over hyped fight with tito ortiz? what is the UFC thinking lets take a fight that was God awful and make them fight again. Lets put 2 guys that love to wrestle against each other, I bet they won’t take each other down and lay there will they. Styles make fights, Tito loves to ground and pound, Rashad thinks he can out wrestle Tito and you get what we had in the last fight. A suckfest. Heres an ideal for UFC 78. Main event Rashad Vs Tito and the under card can be Koscheck Vs Sanchez also Tim Sylvia Vs Jeff Monson. UFC 78 The Suckfest

Most of you guys are transparent. If you picked Tito to win the fight then you are super critical of the way Rashad fought and his post fight comments. Vice-versa if you picked Rashad to win you are super critical of the way Tito fought and what he had to say post fight. Now what a surprise your minds haven’t changed about who you think will win the rematch. I say who gives a rat’s ass about this fight. I couldn’t care less about either of these two guys. I would only watch if it was free or part of some great card. I hate the way Rashad predicted a second round KO, yet didn’t try to make it happen. I also hate the way Tito said he was injury free a few days before the fight and was in the best shape of his life. He loses and suddenly it’s because he had back problems. F the both of them who cares.

If you dont care why did you take the time to type out such a lengthy post?

The big question here is will Tito get another 200 grand for showing? And rashaad what like 25? If so Tito would be a fool to not want it. He can go defend himself well enough to most likely not get knocked out by Rashaads lazy punches for 15 minutes. Rashaad should try like his life depends on it to win just to double his pay!

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Id like to see this one for free on spike as well.

Tito did deserve that point deduction, but other fighters have definitely gotten away with more. My first thought after that fight was that Tito’s public shit-talking about Dana White is coming back to bite him in the ass.

I’m not saying that anything was fixed, but how difficult is it for Dana to tell Big John not to cut Tito any slack at all? Hence, the extra long break to replace Rashad’s mouthpiece, the point deduction, the premature stand ups when Tito has control, etc.

And if anyone thinks that Herring/Nog fight wasn’t fixed by somebody, I think you’re insane.

You know, I did see Dana White talking to Big John and the other referees right before the fights began. It was outside the arena on a grassy knoll just as the motorcade was passing.

I remember that last time two fighters were giving an automatic rematch and it was Big timmy and AA and it was shite.

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Dont be such an abrasive Jackass…. understand that the site has some harsh coding and sometimes browsers dont refresh it properly. Your posts are still there, plus another one of you acting like a dingle.

I said I don’t care about the rematch. It was also a chance to point out some reasons why. Would you like me connect any more dots for you?
If you dont care why did you take the time to type out such a lengthy post?

Bloodymess’ quote is at the bottom of my last post. Oh yeah Bloodymess, every post that I make also says my comment is awaiting moderation. They still get through though.

I said I don’t care about the rematch. It was also a chance to point out some reasons why. Would you like me connect any more dots for you?

Well you havn’t connected any dots for me yet professor. You say you dont care about either one of these guys, but let me guess, you watched the fight? And took time out of your day to address the situation? leave it alone, just let it go dude.

Dont be such an abrasive Jack*ss…. understand that the site has some harsh coding and sometimes browsers dont refresh it properly. Your posts are still there, plus another one of you acting like a dingle.

Ok what are you an a**hole? completely clean posts gets moderated and dont show back up, gets a little frustrating. Oh but the great Luppers would never get annoyed beacause he knows all!

Ok what are you an a**hole? completely clean posts gets moderated and dont show back up, gets a little frustrating. Oh but the great Luppers would never get annoyed beacause he knows all!

Aint about right and wrong for me, or frustrated. This is a Blog. I like to hear valid opinions, and talk both sides. If you wanna get all pissed over something THAT REALLY ISNT EVEN A PROBLEM, go ahead… and Ill be the asshole.

Ok what are you an a**hole? completely clean posts gets moderated and dont show back up, gets a little frustrating. Oh but the great Luppers would never get annoyed beacause he knows all!

BloodyMEss … RELAX. Comments go into moderation for several reasons. They sometimes go into SPAM. We eventually get to them. Talk about MMA, let us worry about the comments.

Wrong guess Bloodymess,
I didn’t watch the fight. I read it on UFCjunkie.com as posted by performify. I guess that was your problem with my original post; too many words.

What the hell is Tito’s problem. I think he’s the only fighter afraid to get hit in the face. I was a fan of Tito but his ground and pound is gone. He has no fire, 90% talk 10% fight. His only advantage on other fighters is his take downs. But once his face gets touched, he panics like a little bitch. RASHADS should def throw blows the entire fight. Guarantees a win.

I don’t know what was wrong with Tito that night. He was slow and tired. Sure he would of gotten taken down if he didn’t hold the fence but he still would have rolled right into that guieteen from the top anyway.
Rashad’s only offensense came in the last 10 seconds.
So in my opinion they were both saved by the bell. But
Tito is much bigger and aggressive he should be able to man handle Evans. Put him down and elbow his face like he did to Forrest.

Personally,I have no interest at all in seeing that rematch.Rashad is looking very green and Tito is passed his prime.Tito was the man at one point.He was a pibull,but that was a long time ago.He is just not the same person.I am definately not a Tito fan but I do give him credit for his accomplishments.I just think that it is time for him to retire.In that fight with Rashad,that was the first time I saw Tito gas in a long time.Bottom line is the first fight sucked and I have no interset in seeing another one.

The thing is, Rashad is still a little green when it comes to MMA, and Tito should have been able to finish him. I think Rashad has the potential to be a UFC superstar, he just needs to work on his game. Tito’s days as a superstar are over, he was “given” a victory over Forrest and hasnt shown any skill lately other than his win over Shamrock (who is long past his prime).