Dana White: Shogun and Fedor to get title shots

With a win in his Octagon debut at UFC 76 in September, Mauricio "Shogun" Rua will earn the opportunity to challenge for the light heavyweight championship, according to recent statements from UFC President Dana White on SportsIllustrated.com.
Here's the snip:
"White says that if Shogun wins in September, he will get the next title shot at the UFC Light Heavyweight Title. That could lead to a rematch with [Quinton "Rampage"] Jackson, who Shogun obliterated in Japan."
Obliterated might be an understatement -- the beating that Shogun dished out in 2005 en route to the middleweight grand prix title was downright criminal.
Of course, Rampage is now the current 205-pound champion after he defeated Chuck Liddell at UFC 71 in May. He is set to face PRIDE FC middleweight and welterweight champion Dan Henderson at UFC 75 in London, England, on September 8.
We learned today that -- despite previous reports to the contrary -- the cross-promotional showdown is a non-title bout, which means that if Shogun wins, he gets Rampage whether he defeats Henderson or not?
All this hemming and hawing has got me befuddled to be quite honest.
Nonetheless, in the same article White mentions that he is "very interested" in PRIDE FC Heavyweight Champion Fedor Emelianenko and is "working on getting a deal done."
Part of that deal, it appears, may be an instant title shot against either current champion Randy Couture or Gabriel Gonzaga -- the two are set to clash at UFC 74 in August.
Here's another snip:
"Part of the difficulty for him is Fedor's management team. White says that he has 'no idea what these crazy Russians are going to do.' White will give Fedor an immediate title shot if and when he is brought in."
If and when? That sounds imminent.
Clearly, the signing of Fedor would be a boon for the UFC and its fans. However, some might be uneasy about a fighter coming in from another organization and leapfrogging Octagon veterans who have been working their way up the ladder.
But that goes to show how talented Fedor and Shogun are -- these two are arguably the top fighters in their divisions in the sport today.
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Fedor should get to leapfrog everybody, in fact, they should take the title away and give it to him, and make the x champ work there way up. Nah but if that fool will just stop wasting his prime away and get in there already, im down for them to give him whatever.
Shogun however, I think is a little quick. Maybe White is scared another CC incident will happen. SO he is getting him a title shot as quickly as possible.
by The Anomaly on Jul 2, 2007 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I dont see it as new comers comming in, its more like UFC title is a top prize and the other organisation fight to get that and these two fighters are more than qualified.
by jason bang on Jul 2, 2007 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they should both get shots, they are both worthy to come right in and get title shots, they have proven themselves in this sport…if rampage beats dan henderson he’ll have 3 fights in a row against chuck liddell, dan henderson and shogun rua, thats a difficult road to travel right there…maybe fedor demanding an instant title shot is another reason dana white reneged on giving arlovski the title shot after he beat werdum…damn i can’t wait to see these guys in the octagon, i just hope when fedor comes he doesn’t just come and win the belt and then leave, he needs to defend that title if he wins it, i think the winner of gonzaga/couture will face fedor at the december card near new years, the same one as matt vs. matt, it seems like dana likes to make that show a good one, like he did last year…
by tha spida on Jul 2, 2007 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor has been out to long man. Maybe he wants to quit while he is ahead?
by The Anomaly on Jul 2, 2007 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor vs Gonzaga would be pretty crazy..
same with Hendo vs Shogun…
by DirtyML on Jul 2, 2007 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bad idea, especially from the business standpoint. For casual MMA fans in the U.S., Fedor and especially Shogun need to gain better name recognition before getting a shot at the title.
When you have champions with high popularity and name recognition, that’s when fan interest in the sport is strong (such was the case with Randy, Chuck, Tito, GSP, Rich Franklin, Matt Hughes, Royce Gracie, etc.). On the flip side, when there are champions with lower name recognition, where’s the interest in that (like that of Anderson Silva)?
Even Cro Cop needed to win two fights (he didn’t) before getting a title shot, and the UFC may ask the same from Big Nog as well. Fedor should be required to win one fight (preferably against Cro Cop or Big Nog) before getting a title shot. Shogun should win at least two fights before a title shot — as good as he is, he is still no Cro Cop or Big Nog, not to mention his lack of name recognition.
by david on Jul 2, 2007 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i dont think fedor and shogun should get title shots that fast…it’s true these 2 have more that proven them selves…but i would realy like to see the UFC feed these 2 guys the likes of tim sylvia, chuck liddell, arlovski, tito ortiz, on thier way to the title, i have no doubt that any of the above matches would do well at a PPV event…can you imagine whut fedpor would do to tim sylvia…i get giddy just thinking about it…whut about chuck vs. shogun…i mean those r sum fights i want to see title or no title…
does any one see my point
???
by Mr.Murda on Jul 2, 2007 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess that’s if Shoguns win is impressive enough for Dana. I look forward to Fedor coming but I don’t know man. I for one think he will be beat. To me it’s not the point of who, it will just happen within the first year of his contract in the UFC. I wonder why Fedor never fought Ricco Rodriguez or Josh Barnett? Would have been better then most of his opponents. I believe he is one of the best fighters in the world for sure, but who has he beat really since CC? He does cut mighty easy as well, we’ll see though.
by Tommy on Jul 2, 2007 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor has been only out for 2 months.
Against real competition his weight class I meant.
by The Anomaly on Jul 2, 2007 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor will not win 3 straight in the octogon.
by The Anomaly on Jul 2, 2007 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Headline is misleading. Dana White promised Fedor a title shot IF he signs with the UFC. Too bad the world does not revolve around the UFC. Dana White is just trying to give incentives to Fedor. He won’t sign with the UFC.
by UFCFan on Jul 2, 2007 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im fine w/ this. fedor definetly dosen’t need a tune-up. he’s fedor for cryin out loud! i think enough people in the u.s. know about him for it to be successful, expecially if it’s agains’t randy. shogun isn’t as well known but i think one strong performance against a formidable opponent will be enough to propel him into the spotlight. i know some say that the fact that neither of these two speak english could be bad for p.r., but when a.a was champ he was very popular and couldnt speak very good english. plus i dont think the ufc want’s another cc debacle.
by bw on Jul 2, 2007 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor will not win 3 straight in the octogon.
I dunno… Elbows might be the best or worst thing that’s happened to him.
by DirtyML on Jul 2, 2007 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor will not win 3 straight in the octogon.
I dunno… Elbows might be the best or worst thing that’s happened to him.
Fedor has done majority of damage from guard, which is harder to do elbows than punching. I think elbows would hurt him more than help him.
by The Anomaly on Jul 2, 2007 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dana and UFC are correcting the mistake they made with CroCop. Nobody wanted to see CroCop fight Eddie Sanchez, who the fuck cared about that fight? We want to see CC fight Randy and Arlovski, or Vera if his contract wasn’t in dispute. Instead he fought a nobody. He did loose to Gonzaga who turns out to be an excellent but unknown fighter (CC should have fought GG on his debut). As a big MMA fan, I don’t want to see Fedor/Shogun come in and fight a bitch, I want them to fight the best, period. I will not even pay to see these guys fight anything but the top 3-4 in the division. Sure Fedor and Shogun are new to the UFC, but they are not new to the sport of MMA. They both have an incredible reputation that deserves a title shot right away. I for one agree with the UFC on this.
by ragnarr on Jul 2, 2007 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is a machine.
Physically, he doesnt look like much but his footwork, and handspeed is unmatched (not to mention his strength). Seeing him dumped on his head by Randelman and then submitting him was amazing. Seeing him work through a Mark Hunt armbar and then winning was even better.
The person that beats Fedor has to be extremely technical. I really think his best opponent would be a confident Arlovski. He has all the tools to beat Fedor, just needs to be there mentally … if the Pitball does, he will not be beaten for a long time.
SOOO EXCITED ABOUT THIS …
by Down Under on Jul 2, 2007 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
for fans who do not know the two fighters,have a tv special(kind of like oscar & mayweather had)
I hope Randy can beat Gonzaga so he can get a shot at Fedor.
Elbows & a octgon will bring fear to Fedor.
Shogun needs more fights in the octagon.
by oledenny on Jul 2, 2007 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Headline is misleading. Dana White promised Fedor a title shot IF he signs with the UFC. Too bad the world does not revolve around the UFC. Dana White is just trying to give incentives to Fedor. He won’t sign with the UFC.
I like how Fedor and his camp have strung this along and made White dance around like a little monkey. “Here you go ‘lil monkey! Here’s your peanut! Now get out of here!!” Uhummm… got off on a tangent there. Fedor Emelianenko deserves an immediate title shot. Then if he wins the belt, they have to convince him to defend it or maybe he will just give it back and really dis’ the UFC.
by Mamas Boy on Jul 2, 2007 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor will not win 3 straight in the octogon.
What’s the significance of winning 3 straight? You mean if he signs a three fight deal?
by Mamas Boy on Jul 2, 2007 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MamasBoy, I like you style. Spot on! In saying that, White has managed to lure the best of the best, Fedor onyl want to beat the best … I think its inevitable.
by Down Under on Jul 2, 2007 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shogun’s knees were probably pretty banged up after he fought Rampage over in Pride. Seriously, he must have kneed ‘page in the head 24 to 30 times. Rampage has a hard melon but he finally went down. I’m sure Rampage would love to get a rematch with Shogun. It would be hard to say he could do any worse. But then again Wanderlei kicked the crap out of Rampage- twice. The second time Rampage dominated early but it ended the same way with Silva almost kicking him completely out of the ring. So Shogun could kick the crap out of Rampage in front of a much larger audience and then it would be even more humiliating.
Enough talking- let’s just get it on!
by Mamas Boy on Jul 2, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“However, some might be uneasy about a fighter coming in from another organization and leapfrogging Octagon veterans who have been working their way up the ladder”
Who are they talking about here?
Arlovski, who’s 2-2 in his past four fights (one of which was a useless plodding decision over Werdum)?
Gonzaga, whos getting a title shot already?
Sylvia, who just lost the title?
Jake O’Brien, Eddie Sanchez, Jeff Monson, Pe De Pano?
by oliver yamada on Jul 2, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Rampage Vs. Henderson fight is a non title bout.
by AKA123 on Jul 2, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sorry for the double post but heres the article
On the possibility of the Quinton Jackson-Dan Henderson fight being a unification fight:
“No. What we’re doing with that thing is we’re respecting both (the UFC and PRIDE) titles. The UFC title is the UFC champion and we’re respecting Dan as the PRIDE champion. Quinton will walk out with his belt if Dan wins and vice versa.”
source: http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/sports/mixedmartialarts/article_1751066.php
by AKA123 on Jul 2, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see Shogun’s debut against Lyoto Machida. I don’t want the UFC to give Shogun some lopsided opponent. Lyoto is the real deal and I’d bet on him to seal the victory.
by PACO on Jul 2, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor vs Gonzaga would be pretty crazy..
same with Hendo vs Shogun…
BORING. gonzaga would get wrecked. im trying to see clash of the titans again sir. either couture vs fedor, fedor vs crocop 2, fedor vs huuuuh yeah… everyone else has been raped or would get raped
by Mike Fed on Jul 2, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Check out what boxer Roy Jones Jr. has to say about UFC
http://www.newsday.com/sports/custom/boxing/ny-spbox0625,0,7201075.column?coll=ny-sports-mezz
by Tony Che on Jul 2, 2007 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Rampage Vs. Henderson fight is a non title bout.
I hope it’s still 5 rounds. That’s all I care about.
by IceMuncher on Jul 2, 2007 11:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What’s the significance of winning 3 straight? You mean if he signs a three fight deal?
Nah im just saying I bet Fedor’s time is almost here, I predict it will come within the next three. A UFC native will beat him unexpectidly.
by The Anomaly on Jul 2, 2007 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MamasBoy, I like you style. Spot on! In saying that, White has managed to lure the best of the best, Fedor onyl want to beat the best … I think its inevitable.
Fedor only wants to beat the best eh. Lindland MW , Hunt (good, but not the best 5-3), Coleman (Ken Shamrock of Pride), Martins 2-3 (total can). These are Fedor’s last 4 fights,and they are not the best by a long shot. I’ll believe Fedor wants to fight the best when he come to where the best are,the UFC.
by Gord on Jul 3, 2007 12:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“However, some might be uneasy about a fighter coming in from another organization and leapfrogging Octagon veterans who have been working their way up the ladder”
Who are they talking about here?
Arlovski, who’s 2-2 in his past four fights (one of which was a useless plodding decision over Werdum)?
Gonzaga, whos getting a title shot already?
Sylvia, who just lost the title?
Jake O’Brien, Eddie Sanchez, Jeff Monson, Pe De Pano?
You forgot Vera 4-0 , how many more fights does he have to win before he gets a title shot.
by Gord on Jul 3, 2007 12:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Check out what boxer Roy Jones Jr. has to say about UFC
http://www.newsday.com/sports/custom/boxing/ny-spbox0625,0,7201075.column?coll=ny-sports-mezz
good story. i was always a big roy jr. fan. now even more. he gives mad repect to the ufc. i was surprised though, i thought it was going to be another trashing, not so. it shows that r.j. was and still is a true warrior.
by bw on Jul 3, 2007 12:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor vs Gonzaga would be pretty crazy..
same with Hendo vs Shogun…
BORING. gonzaga would get wrecked. im trying to see clash of the titans again sir. either couture vs fedor, fedor vs crocop 2, fedor vs huuuuh yeah… everyone else has been raped or would get raped
Gonzaga would get wrecked, well lets see Fedor beat CC by decision and GG destroyed CC , Maybe Fedor would get wrecked. Seriously though, I think this would be an exciting, close fight and an all out war.
by Gord on Jul 3, 2007 12:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bad idea, especially from the business standpoint. For casual MMA fans in the U.S., Fedor and especially Shogun need to gain better name recognition before getting a shot at the title.
When you have champions with high popularity and name recognition, that’s when fan interest in the sport is strong (such was the case with Randy, Chuck, Tito, GSP, Rich Franklin, Matt Hughes, Royce Gracie, etc.). On the flip side, when there are champions with lower name recognition, where’s the interest in that (like that of Anderson Silva)?
Even Cro Cop needed to win two fights (he didn’t) before getting a title shot, and the UFC may ask the same from Big Nog as well. Fedor should be required to win one fight (preferably against Cro Cop or Big Nog) before getting a title shot. Shogun should win at least two fights before a title shot — as good as he is, he is still no Cro Cop or Big Nog, not to mention his lack of name recognition.
Ok, you should just stop talking. First of all lets think about this clearly for one second. Do you really think that if Fedor or Shogun were put into an instant title shot that the UFC wouldnt spend MILLIONS on marketing to get this persons name recognition up? Use your head…they spent over 40 million on marketing the damn Ireland show in Europe. If they got Fedor in the UFC and he was put into a title fight you would see highlight reels on every station. They would put him on every billboard possible. I live in NYC and they did a pretty good job with UFC 73. Fedor would make them so rich that they would double the marketing and he would be an instant hit.(if your a true fan) think back to all of Fedors KO wins that they could take from to make a nasty trailor of him COMING TO THE UFC!!!! HE IS THE BEST FIGHTER IN THE WORLD PS. IF shogun wants a title shot give it to him because he already made the existing champ look like a female…and I dont want to hear any arguements about that fight!
by Americana on Jul 3, 2007 12:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gord! You are an absolute knob mate .. there is a word used a fair bit in this industry – ‘contract’.
They are the guys he had to work with, he has beat everyone else. Matt Linland was a promo fight, for Bodog. Obviously, you have not seen Hunt smash Cro-Cop and Coleman beat Shogun .. not exactly a push over mate.
Maybe you should go and say hi to the Russians, so Fedor can ‘come to where the best are, the UFC’ .. w&*ker.
by Down Under on Jul 3, 2007 1:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
vera vs overeem then if he win give him a title shot.sylvia vs alaksander e. then he can have a title shot and arlovski vs cro cop winner gets title shot and big nog vs barnett 3 before either get a title shot. i think all the heavy wieghts in the ufc need at least one more fight to get a title shot(and i would just love to see those fights).so i think that fedor getting one instantly,hey what ever it takes to get him do it!
by mikeclem on Jul 3, 2007 1:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they should both get shots, they are both worthy to come right in and get title shots, they have proven themselves in this sport…if rampage beats dan henderson he’ll have 3 fights in a row against chuck liddell, dan henderson and shogun rua, thats a difficult road to travel right there…maybe fedor demanding an instant title shot is another reason dana white reneged on giving arlovski the title shot after he beat werdum…damn i can’t wait to see these guys in the octagon, i just hope when fedor comes he doesn’t just come and win the belt and then leave, he needs to defend that title if he wins it, i think the winner of gonzaga/couture will face fedor at the december card near new years, the same one as matt vs. matt, it seems like dana likes to make that show a good one, like he did last year…
if he does come in and win the title he will most certanly be under contract hes not going anywhere.and i agree with you on the dec card heres what i think we might see
fedor vs gonzaga
sera vs hughes
hendo vs sho gun
liddle vs silva
ortiz vs jackson/arona
franklinvs fihlo/kang/silva/shamrock/linland(hopefully)
and maybe one or more of the heavys listed before
by mikeclem on Jul 3, 2007 1:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wre going to see Rampage beat Hendo. Shogun beat Rampage again….and Ortiz get the next fight after beating Evans. As for Fedor getting an immediate shot at the title…F*** it I’m good with it. Although I know Fedor is the best I hope Couture beats him
by Stafo on Jul 3, 2007 1:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I want to see Arlovski-Fedor, I’d pay 100 for that one.
by c-war on Jul 3, 2007 2:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fedor would eat arlovski for lunch, there is no way arlovski can beat fedor.
by Mr.Murda on Jul 3, 2007 2:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Obviously, you have not seen Hunt smash Cro-Cop and Coleman beat Shogun .. not exactly a push over mate.
If you smash someone, you don’t need a "SPLIT decision. C’mon man, get your facts straight.
by YouTapped on Jul 3, 2007 3:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if he does come in and win the title he will most certanly be under contract hes not going anywhere.and i agree with you on the dec card heres what i think we might see
fedorvs
gonzaga
seravs
hughes
hendovs
sho gun
liddle vssilva
ortizvs
jackson/arona
franklinvsfihlo/kang/silva/shamrock/linland(hopefully)
and maybe one or more of the heavys listed before
I reckon shogun will fight ortiz/evans winner.
by IceFan on Jul 3, 2007 3:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love Fedor however ….
Arlovski is the only one who can beat Fedor. It will require a very technical fighter to beat him and Arlovski has all the tools. If they fight, Arlovski by knock-out .. and he will remain champion for years. He has learnt so much, mentally, after his Sylvia losses .. The Pitbull is back!
I will take this bet with anyone.
by Down Under on Jul 3, 2007 4:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Shoguns gonna strugle not being able to use soccer kicks or stomps,but Fedor able to add elbows to his ground and pound,everyone of the HWs better watch out.
by mcanena on Jul 3, 2007 5:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Americana thank you for that post, I thoguht exactly the same thing. Dana White is not an amature, marketing would be top notch if Fedor came to the UFC.
As for those who complain about Fedor getting a title shot straight away I would like to inform you, you are now banned from this website or any other website forum to do with MMA.
Why should a title holder move company for anything less than a title fight. Everyone wants Fedor to sign a multiple fight deal, well UFC has to sweeten the deal for him. I would love to hear he’s signed a 4 fight deal. I dont think he will sign anything more than 4 fights
by Holdin Ropes on Jul 3, 2007 5:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I want to see Arlovski-Fedor, I’d pay 100 for that one.
i would pay 100 dollars with a smile on my face to see that.
by mikeclem on Jul 3, 2007 6:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love Fedor however ….
Arlovski is the only one who can beat Fedor. It will require a very technical fighter to beat him and Arlovski has all the tools. If they fight, Arlovski by knock-out .. and he will remain champion for years. He has learnt so much, mentally, after his Sylvia losses .. The Pitbull is back!
I will take this bet with anyone.
So the guy who Tim Sylvia beat twice is going to beat Fedor….right.
by Big_B on Jul 3, 2007 6:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m an arlovski hugger but Fedor will destroy him. Might even be first death in the octagon.
by Wildbill on Jul 3, 2007 7:08 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have been watching the UFC for a few years, a whole lot longer than I have been watching Pride. But I could care less whether it’s a UFC fighter or a Pride fighter as long as the fights are good and I am entertained. I tell it how I see it no biased either way even though I do have my favourite fighters.Chuck Liddell is one of my favourite fighters but I didn’t think he would beat Rampage and as far as I’m concerned, Fedor would beat Arlovski and Syvia in the same evening. Arlovski v Mark Hunt would be a good fight to watch, but I think Hunt would knock him out. As far as Fedor or Shogun getting a title fight straight away is concerned if Anderson Silva and Rampage can get one after one fight (and look at what they did), then I cannot see it being a problem for them to get one straight away. People should stop the bitching about about UFC v Pride and just enjoy all the great MMA action.
by Ade on Jul 3, 2007 8:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Big_B .. trust me, have a little faith mate. He is young, he style has been refined, and soon …. KO time. You will have to just bare with me on this one.
Also, hope everyone doesn’t want to murder me for this but the most hated heavyweight champ of all time, The Maniac, can dish out some serious ass kicking. I have seen some of his fights outside of the UFC and now that his has lost the belt, I hope he opens up again. Just to double check :)
by Down Under on Jul 3, 2007 8:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
vera vs overeem then if he win give him a title shot.sylvia vs alaksander e. then he can have a title shot and arlovski vs cro cop winner gets title shot and big nog vs barnett 3 before either get a title shot. i think all the heavy wieghts in the ufc need at least one more fight to get a title shot(and i would just love to see those fights).so i think that fedor getting one instantly,hey what ever it takes to get him do it!
So you see 8 fighters instantly worthy of a #1 contender match up? Good thing you don’t have Joe Silv’a job. So the winner of your 4th fight would get his title shot when, a year and a half from then? That would put the division on hold just like what is currently happening with the welterweight division.
by ViolentMike on Jul 3, 2007 9:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
love Fedor however ….
Arlovski is the only one who can beat Fedor. It will require a very technical fighter to beat him and Arlovski has all the tools. If they fight, Arlovski by knock-out .. and he will remain champion for years. He has learnt so much, mentally, after his Sylvia losses .. The Pitbull is back!
I will take this bet with anyone.
Where do I sign up??? Seriously though, can we get this in writing?
by ViolentMike on Jul 3, 2007 9:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hooorayyy !!!! White and Joe Silva continue to sppon feed these foreign fighters. Hey Dana can you bring me in and let me fight Sean Shrek for the title ? How about letting Violent Mike or Mama’s boy take on the top guys in their respective weight classes …. dont know what you guys weigh lol.
Here’s a snip from Dana White’s brain…..
“Instead of actually following through with my intelligent marketing plan in bringing the UFC to new heights with The Ultimate Fighter shows, I will totally abandon that solid long term plan and instead will fatten up my pockets along with my Zuffa homeboys and live it up big dawg style. PPV and gate sales will soar with us bringing in Henderson, shogun, and Fedor to fight. Who the heck cares about the guys who were climbing the ladder in the divisions, man Im gonna fatten my pockets up and pay the lil guys $5,000 a pop to slug it out”
by Kevin Kelly on Jul 3, 2007 9:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Somewhere the two Guinness guys are screaming “Brilliant”
Here’s a snipet from Dana White’s brain …
“I must be a genius to totally abandon my long term plan in building the UFC to new heights with The Ultimate Fighter show for the past 3 years. I mean that show only helped the UFC skyrocket in mainstream audiences. All of the current UFC veterans and the fighters from the show can take a back seat on the bus and watch guys Like Henderson, Shogun, and probably Fedor fight in high profile fights that will result in fattening up my pocket. You betcha PPV and gate sales will go through the roof with these megafights. Oh and by the way with the additional profits, I’ll still pay you lil guys $5,000 a pop for slugging it out with each other.”
by Kevin Kelly on Jul 3, 2007 10:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bring on the winner of Sherk/Franca! Or would me and Mama’s Boy have to have a number 1 contender match? I hope not, becuse if we did, it would be a year and 9 months until Dana would actually give one of us our title shot.
by ViolentMike on Jul 3, 2007 10:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for constantly deleting my comments….. Guess we cant upset Dana
by Kevin Kelly on Jul 3, 2007 10:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hooorayyy !!!! White and Joe Silva continue to sppon feed these foreign fighters.
That sentence about sums up what most prejudices about americans revolve around. “Foreign fighters baaaaad – homegrown reality stars gooooood”. Keep it up.
by YouTapped on Jul 3, 2007 10:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been in countries all over the world. You act as if prejudice is just an American problem. French, Brits, Russians even us Italians, we are all in our own right. If not a race then a country, if not a country then a social standing, if not social then goverment, if not goverment then religion ect. UFC has always had fighters from all over the world, foreign is anyone not from the Octagon. Not nationality. To jump to that conclusion is…
by Tommy on Jul 3, 2007 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tommy, I believe you misunderstood me. I was talking about the prejudices “we” (as in non americans, usually europeans) have towards americans at times. Of course having prejudices is a character flaw, so part of the blame should go to us, but then you read stuff like that “foreign fighters” comment and you lose it. My apologies if I insulted any of you US boys by my comment, but I believe you have to address ignorance, instead of ignore it.
by YouTapped on Jul 3, 2007 11:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor vs Gonzaga would be pretty crazy..
same with Hendo vs Shogun…
is true warrrr shogun rua warrrr fedor king
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by DRaSkUa on Jul 3, 2007 12:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yo News flash anomaly big nog has won 18 fights by submission 31 less than jeremy horn, look like somebody has a better submission game than minotauro.
by IceFan on Jul 3, 2007 1:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think both of these guys deserve a shot ASAP. Yes, they haven’t worked their ways through the ranks of UFC fighters, but they have put in numerous fights in their careers that have resulted in extremely impressive resumes. Plus, Fedor is a demi-god and Shogun destroyed Rampage.
by Mahde on Jul 3, 2007 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think both of these guys deserve a shot ASAP. Yes, they haven’t worked their ways through the ranks of UFC fighters, but they have put in numerous fights in their careers that have resulted in extremely impressive resumes. Plus, Fedor is a demi-god and Shogun destroyed Rampage.
Been seeing more of shoguns fights recently and agree he is one of the best alive but he needs a tune up fight first I hope its vs babalu.
by IceFan on Jul 3, 2007 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Arlovski is the most naturally gifted mma fighter at heavyweight. His boxing skills could trouble Fedor. Arlovski has awesome Sambo not that he uses it. However Fedor’s is even better…Arlovski would have to turn it into a technical kickboxing match which I don’t think he could do against the sheer agression of Fedor…Look what Fedor did to Crocop…I reckon Arlovski might have better handspeed than CC. It just looks that way I’m not sure it makes sense given CC’s kickboxing background.
I still think Arlovski is the most naturally gifted. Plus he can improve further. His jiu-jitsu will improve, his wrestling too. I don’t think he should but he could also be heavier for fights against Tim and Fedor…Not sure about his mental game though.
He could use his Sambo background on CC…He’s got a great skill set and the speed of a welterweight but it’s useless against the top guys unless he rediscovers his mojo…Which he will. Give him time.
by RobH86 on Jul 3, 2007 2:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For everyone’s information, foreign fighters meant those who are not in the UFC. Please excuse me for not being specific in the first place. Any other beefs from “You Tapped” ?
These “foreign fighters” are being spoon fed high profile fights. Let them work their way up from the MIDDLE OF THE PACK
by Kevin Kelly on Jul 3, 2007 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor will not win 3 straight in the octogon.
who do you think is going to beat him???
by sean on Jul 3, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
who do you think is going to beat him???
I know I might be laughed at for this, but I think Randy Couture has the best chance. Not saying he definitely would, just that he has the best chance of actually doing it.
Arlovski is a question mark in my opinion, he hasn’t looked like the old Arlovski since the first fight with Sylvia. He didn’t exactly win that fight with Werdum, instead, he just didn’t loose. Sylvia has the same strategy now (just don’t loose).
Cro Cop could do it still if he manages to land a good strait left to rock Fedor, then finish with a LHK. Otherwise hes not going to knock Fedor out and hes not going to decision him either.
Vera I cannot comment on since I know very little about him. He is a kick boxer right? In that case I do not believe he will do it.
Big Nog fought Fedor 3 times and lost, he has not shown me any indication that he can beat him. Nobody submits Fedor.
When Fedor does get beat I predict that its going to be via a lackluster decision. I don’t see anybody being able to knock out or submit him. The only person in HW capable of out pointing Fedor would be Randy. He is the only one that has the skills to possibly neutralize Fedor on the ground.
by ragnarr on Jul 3, 2007 3:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OK, the problem here is:
Up until recently most of the MMA fans felt that pride had the better talent, now that Cro Cop had his lights put out and Gomi got schooled everyone is singing a different song. Look the bottom line is the UFC IS the ultimate. Don’t get me wrong I love Fedor fights, but that doesn’t mean give him a shot right away. There are guys like Karo Parisyan who’ve been waiting and waiting and nothing. I know they are in different weight classes. This isn’t boxing so leave the polotics out and make these guys earn that shot.
Think if you were a fighter who’s put in 3-4 years of hard fights in youre company and some new guy comes in and buds in front of you for that title shot.
Thats the best way to put it!
by 2 dukes on Jul 3, 2007 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For everyone’s information, foreign fighters meant those who are not in the UFC. Please excuse me for not being specific in the first place. Any other beefs from “You Tapped” ?
These “foreign fighters” are being spoon fed high profile fights. Let them work their way up from the MIDDLE OF THE PACK
Wow I guess we can tell this guy never went to college. Its a business bro! The whole point is to make money while providing the public with a service we want to see. So while you sit at home begging to see Rob Emerson vs Gray Maynard…I’ll be watching Shogun vs Ortiz. Thanks for reminding me just how stupid some people are!
Yo Holdin Ropes good look on the comments! At least I know there is one other informed MMA fan in here!
by Americana on Jul 3, 2007 5:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love Fedor however ….
Arlovski is the only one who can beat Fedor. It will require a very technical fighter to beat him and Arlovski has all the tools. If they fight, Arlovski by knock-out .. and he will remain champion for years. He has learnt so much, mentally, after his Sylvia losses .. The Pitbull is back!
I will take this bet with anyone.
I agree with you 100 percent. Arlovski is the man to beat and somehow only Tim Sylvia manages to do so.
by c-war on Jul 3, 2007 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OK, the problem here is:
Up until recently most of the MMA fans felt that pride had the better talent, now that Cro Cop had his lights put out and Gomi got schooled everyone is singing a different song. Look the bottom line is the UFC IS the ultimate. Don’t get me wrong I love Fedor fights, but that doesn’t mean give him a shot right away. There are guys like Karo Parisyan who’ve been waiting and waiting and nothing. I know they are in different weight classes. This isn’t boxing so leave the polotics out and make these guys earn that shot.
Think if you were a fighter who’s put in 3-4 years of hard fights in youre company and some new guy comes in and buds in front of you for that title shot.
Thats the best way to put it!
The thing about that is, Fedor is already a Champion. Karo Parisyan is not. Why should Fedor have to work his way up when he already has.
by c-war on Jul 3, 2007 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love Fedor however ….
Arlovski is the only one who can beat Fedor. It will require a very technical fighter to beat him and Arlovski has all the tools. If they fight, Arlovski by knock-out .. and he will remain champion for years. He has learnt so much, mentally, after his Sylvia losses .. The Pitbull is back!
I will take this bet with anyone.
So the guy who Tim Sylvia beat twice is going to beat Fedor….right
By your logic Tim will beat Fedor. Fedor and Monson choked out Fujita mid first round. Tim destroyed Monson ,Tim > Fedor. Fedor beat Sobrol by decision and Chuck destroyed Sobrol twice, Chuck > Fedor. Fedor beat CC by decision and GG dominated CC , GG would destroy Fedor. I could go on and on ,but this proves nothing about who Fedor will or won’t beat.
by Gord on Jul 3, 2007 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m an arlovski hugger but Fedor will destroy him. Might even be first death in the octagon.
Where have I heard this before?, oh ya right, when CC came over all the HWs were going to get carried out on stretchers or bodybags.
by Gord on Jul 3, 2007 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So you see 8 fighters instantly worthy of a #1 contender match up? Good thing you don’t have Joe Silv’a job. So the winner of your 4th fight would get his title shot when, a year and a half from then? That would put the division on hold just like what is currently happening with the welterweight division.
no not 8 i think vera is close probally two or three fights away i dont think tim would beat alaksander so get him out of the picture arlovski and cro cop winner gets the winner out of fedor vs cotoure/gozaga the the winner out of barnett and nog will get winner out of fedor-arlovski/cro cop.thats the order i would hope to see.(and just some match ups i would like to see)
by mikeclem on Jul 3, 2007 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For everyone’s information, foreign fighters meant those who are not in the UFC. Please excuse me for not being specific in the first place. Any other beefs from “You Tapped” ?
These “foreign fighters” are being spoon fed high profile fights. Let them work their way up from the MIDDLE OF THE PACK
Maybe Dana is worried they won’t make their way up from the middle of the pack, ala CC.
by Gord on Jul 3, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor will not win 3 straight in the octogon.
who do you think is going to beat him???
I know I might be laughed at for this, but I think Randy Couture has the best chance. Not saying he definitely would, just that he has the best chance of actually doing it.
Arlovski is a question mark in my opinion, he hasn’t looked like the old Arlovski since the first fight with Sylvia. He didn’t exactly win that fight with Werdum, instead, he just didn’t loose. Sylvia has the same strategy now (just don’t loose).
Cro Cop could do it still if he manages to land a good strait left to rock Fedor, then finish with a LHK. Otherwise hes not going to knock Fedor out and hes not going to decision him either.
Vera I cannot comment on since I know very little about him. He is a kick boxer right? In that case I do not believe he will do it.
Big Nog fought Fedor 3 times and lost, he has not shown me any indication that he can beat him. Nobody submits Fedor.
When Fedor does get beat I predict that its going to be via a lackluster decision. I don’t see anybody being able to knock out or submit him. The only person in HW capable of out pointing Fedor would be Randy. He is the only one that has the skills to possibly neutralize Fedor on the ground.
I’m not laughing, but I think Vera or GG have a better chance of beating Fedor. Vera’s wrestling skills are right up there with Randy’s, he was an alternate for the 2000 olympics, and Vera has much more leathal striking than Randy. I wouldn’t be surprised if Randy beat Fedor , I just think Vera and GG have more ways to win. With a guy like Fedor you need all the ways to win you can get. I agree with Nog not beating Fedor, 3 strikes you’re out.
by Gord on Jul 3, 2007 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see Shogun’s debut against Lyoto Machida. I don’t want the UFC to give Shogun some lopsided opponent. Lyoto is the real deal and I’d bet on him to seal the victory.
Damn that would be a great match-up
by Thor1982 on Jul 4, 2007 12:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Either way get these two in the ufc put em up against anyone in the top5 and sit back and watch. Until that happens its all hearsay whos the best who can beat who. I just want to see some good fights. I think Fedor is dodging the UFC maybe maybe not but damn make the deal already cuz you know eventually your going too in the end. Its cool to start seeing the Pride fighters in the UFC cant wait to see henderson fight Page. IM giving that one to henderson he’s got the game to bring it to page unless Rampage knocks him out straightaway. If page eats a couple of right or left hooks from Henderson its all over. Damn just get these pride guys in here so we can see some fights.
by Thor1982 on Jul 4, 2007 1:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope Dana gives Bisping a fight against Shogun so he can brutalise him.
by mcanena on Jul 4, 2007 4:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gord, Gord, Gord. What are you doing to yourself mate. First you spin sh*t about Fedor opponents and now u say my comments mean Tim would beat Fedor. I simply said Arlovski has grown a lot since those defeats and he would be the perfect opponent to defeat … its all about match ups mate, match ups. Arlovski would destroy Sylvia if they met now.
Start thinking before you respond mate, stop firing off sh*t because you force me to scroll down too far.
by Down Under on Jul 4, 2007 7:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if you are UFC fan, then you don’t like fedor to go stright for title shot. but if you just lovin fighting, then you’ll be so fu*kin anctious about this much up
by goga on Jul 5, 2007 12:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor will not win 3 straight in the octogon.
Fedor has been undefeated in 4 years………….I think the meat hanging around the UFC is rotten and will not be any problem for Fedor to knockc off the hooks.
Fedor would “crush” Coutoure, but Gonzaga may last until the second round (if he is lucky).
The only real challenger Fedor has met in the past while was that big New Zealand guy (uncertain of his name).
by Dave on Jul 11, 2007 6:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor will not win 3 straight in the octogon.
LOL! No he won’t. He will win ten stragiht. Talk only what you know. Please!
by James on Jul 17, 2007 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL! No he won’t. He will win ten stragiht. Talk only what you know. Please!
Yeah he wont win 3 straight he wont make it past 1 win if he fights GG.
by Thor1982 on Jul 17, 2007 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The only fight in MMA that Fedor ever lost was in the first round when a punch caused his forehead to bleed. I am afraid that if UFC does not get Fedor to fight it would be a shame.He is undoubtedly the greatest fihter in MMA today.
by Benjamin on Jul 23, 2007 3:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would sell my fuckin kidney to watch Fedor fight Tim Sylvia. Tim wud try his gay little thing where he just stands there and trys to keep Fedor away with his “deadly” jab and pray for a decision win. Fedor would have none of it though. He would get inside Tims guard, smash his face in with his steel fists, slam him to the ground and break his head open with his inhumane machine-like GnP en route to a very sweet and satisfying victory.
Fedor forever!
Maine-ac never!
by rhys wilkins on Jul 24, 2007 9:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
shogun is not getting a title shot he is vs forest grriffin at ufc 76 and liddell is taking on jardine and shogun will have 2 fights before a title shot and the winner of jardine and chuck will get a title shot and fedor is maybe coming it will be around december when he comes and alex will not come to the ufc because he is kinda of a criminal so they wont let him fight
by Geoffrey on Jul 30, 2007 1:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i wonder what would happen if fedor gets a title shot and gets beat by randy… in the good words of clint eastwood: opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. first of all, mma is not the kind of sport where you can have convictions and reasonably expect them to hold true. the sport has shown us this time and time again, it doesnt matter how great the hype, both fighters,given that they’re evenly matched, have a chance to win when facing each other in the ring/octagon. crocop vs. gonzaga was a fluke according to many, but it wasnt, it was a fight and a win. couture vs. gonzaga, now that was a fight that went the way it was meant to go. couture did exactly what he planned to do, while gonzaga had no plan, just blind confidence. that was the difference maker. i cant wait to see how fedor loses, but i bet it will be because of too much hype and stupid convictions.
by Up Above on Aug 26, 2007 1:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
to Dana White: Pay Randy and other Fighters what they are worth or you will have a HUGE backlash of fans boycotting the UFC and Ultimate Fighter!!!!
by Todd Barry on Oct 27, 2007 11:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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