Rumor: Houston Alexander vs. Forrest Griffin?

Griffin by decision.

Dangerous fight for Griffin, we will see if H.A. debut was a fluke. That dude is cut for 205, very explosive. Forrest needs to fight a tough guy like that if he wants to get closer to title contention again.

You might wanna mention that this is (as far as I know) the last fight for Griffin on his remaining contract. Maybe Dana wants to give him the boot by making Alexander knock him out. I can imagine that Dana was not too happy with Griffin announcing after the fight that he was indeed avoiding a brawl and was scared to get caught.

if they indeed do fight, i have a gut feeling that forrest is going to get absolutely destroyed. i’ve always thought forrest was very overrated. he’s fun to watch, but overrated. if this happens, i see it ending quickly by KO.

this would be verry exciting fight for the fans of ufc…

this would be verry exciting fight for the fans of ufc…

and im going for the underdog…i herd alexander has 6 kids is that true?

I would love to see Alexander fight Griffin. If the Griffin fight doesn’t happen I would like to see Alexander fight Machida. I wouldn’t mind seeing Machida fight Griffin either, which was supposed to happen at UFC 70.

OMFG is this a match-up or what. I dunno, but Forrect better keep those hands up and chin tucked … exciting if it happens.

Dana White is not going to let Griffin go. Those two are thicker than thieves, and Griffin has a huge fanbase, which the UFC can still draw a lot of money from.

If Griffin does fight Alexander, it’s not going to be in August or September. August would give Griffin 2 months recovery from his last fight, which is waaaaaaaay too soon for how the UFC is known to operate. even 3 months recovery (Sept) is too soon for a guy that just went 3 rounds. I’m not saying it’s right, i’m just saying that’s what history tells us.

So either Alexander is pipe-dreaming, or he’s just wrong about the dates.

August would give Griffin 2 months recovery from his last fight, which is waaaaaaaay too soon for how the UFC is known to operate. even 3 months recovery (Sept) is too soon for a guy that just went 3 rounds.

Roger Huerta (just one example) fights like every other week lately it seems — even after his three round war with Garcia he was back in the cage in two months. He might even go at UFC 74. This statement makes no sense. Plus, Griffin was not injured in that fight and barely got touched because he was running the whole time. He CAN fight in August OR September without a problem. The real question is does he WANT to go in against a killer like Alexander? I think not.

Alexander vs. Machida would be better, Forrest needs another win, he draws fans.

I dont think Griffin – Alexander is gonna happen that soon. I do however really wanna see more of Houston Alexander…

If it happens, this should really be an exciting fight as long as Forrest fights a bit more like the old Forrest, but still implementing his improved stand up game. I’ve never seen him throw so many leg kicks as he did against Sick Dog. Since coming to the UFC, believe it or not, Forrest Griffin only has one knockout win, and that was against the king of rock n rumble himself, Elvis Sinosic. Therefore I see the fight either ending by an Alexander KO or a Griffin unanimous decision.

This fight doesn’t make much sense for Alexander except for Griffin being a big name. Alexander just beat the crap out of Jardine, so now he gets to fight the guy that Jardine very recently beat the crap out of?

If Griffin wins this fight, and Tito defeats Rashad, will we see a Forrest vs. Tito II to determine who gets to face either Rampage or Hendo?

If Houston Alexander wins could he possibly face Rashad Evans or Chuck Liddell?

I think Forrest and Houston are up there for the belt if either wins

A lot of good posts so far. Yeah, Griffin, Alexander and Machida- throw any two in the cage far as I’m concerned. I can see any guy winning too although I’d favor Machida. Dude is quite a striker.

Comeon, I like Forrest but “IF” H.A. comes out like he did against Jardine, Forrest will get DESTROYED. Plus he will be coming in with way more confidence that Forrest. Bad match up, we could be witnessing the end of his UFC career if he ends up like Jardine. One more thing to the people who say that Forrest’s fan base is too strong. Comeon… UFC is pumping in sooo many new great fighters, I dont think Dana is concerned that PPV sales will “DROP”. PPV sales seem pretty good in the PPVs were he is not on the card.

Alexander vs. Machida would be better, Forrest needs another win, he draws fans.

I think Dana wants to milk Alexander a little bit more before he throws him against a contender like Machida.

Dangerous fight for Griffin, we will see if H.A. debut was a fluke. That dude is cut for 205, very explosive. Forrest needs to fight a tough guy like that if he wants to get closer to title contention again.

yes, that is exactly what Forrest needs to move up the ladder…..

I think Dana wants to milk Alexander a little bit more before he throws him against a contender like Machida.

This fight doesn’t make much sense for Alexander except for Griffin being a big name. Alexander just beat the crap out of Jardine, so now he gets to fight the guy that Jardine very recently beat the crap out of?

 Very good point

The tattoo artist that is going to do a tattoo for me said he did some work on Houston and Houston told him that he has a three fight contract and if he wins all three he will get a title shot.

I think some folks are jumping the gun here with regard to Alexander. Yes, he beat a top contender in Jardine, and yes, he whooped Jardine’s monkey ass, but name me one other time you’ve seen Alexander fight. Name me one other opponent he’s beaten.

What’s that? You can’t? That’s because he hasn’t beaten any fighter that anyone’s ever heard of.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m thoroughly impressed with Alexander’s performance against Jardine, but he’s going to have to prove it 3 or 4 more times before they’d give him a title shot. C’mon, you think they’d give him (a no-name) a title shot before a Liddell rubber match? before Rua? before Evans? hell, before Lambert or even Bisping? man, ain’t no way.

Alexander is about as close to a title shot as Ken Shamrock.

[quote comment=“93067”]The tattoo artist that is going to do a tattoo for me said he did some work on Houston and Houston told him that he has a three fight contract and if he wins all three he will get a title shot.[/quote
Even if Houston wins all 3, i still dont think he is of the same caliber as chuck, rampage, dan henderson….

Are Griffin and Sanchez going to the same places? BOTH of them with Staph infections!?!?! What the hell are these guys doing?

You might wanna mention that this is (as far as I know) the last fight for Griffin on his remaining contract. Maybe Dana wants to give him the boot by making Alexander knock him out. I can imagine that Dana was not too happy with Griffin announcing after the fight that he was indeed avoiding a brawl and was scared to get caught.

This could be the case. WoW! This is not a good fight for Griffen. If he wins it will prove that he is ready to be back in contention but losing could be a move to the WEC or EXC. LOve that character Griffen brings. I would hate to see him go. If this fight goes down…I hope it gets thrown into 76 now that Shogun is out

Even if Houston wins all 3, i still dont think he is of the same caliber as chuck, rampage, dan henderson….

Of course not, I agree. I good striker will pick him apart quickly. Alexander’s best defense is to get inside and dirty box, he has alot of power from the inside.

Does no one remember ALexander getting knocked down from 1 shot of Jardine’s? I liked the intensity after he came back to his feet, but we know nothing about this guy! You think Griffin or anyone is going to jump in there and try to slug with him now? I hardly doubt it. What will Alexander do in the 2nd and 3rd rounds if he cant get a knock out? No one knows.

I think some folks are jumping the gun here with regard to Alexander. Yes, he beat a top contender in Jardine, and yes, he whooped Jardine’s monkey ass, but name me one other time you’ve seen Alexander fight. Name me one other opponent he’s beaten.

What’s that? You can’t? That’s because he hasn’t beaten any fighter that anyone’s ever heard of.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m thoroughly impressed with Alexander’s performance against Jardine, but he’s going to have to prove it 3 or 4 more times before they’d give him a title shot. C’mon, you think they’d give him (a no-name) a title shot before a Liddell rubber match? before Rua? before Evans? hell, before Lambert or even Bisping? man, ain’t no way.

Alexander is about as close to a title shot as Ken Shamrock.

Lidell rubber match? Chuck would have had to win one of the first two fights to make it a rubber match. And it really doesn’t matter what you think, because if he beats three contenders he will have earned a shot.

Lidell rubber match? Chuck would have had to win one of the first two fights to make it a rubber match. And it really doesn’t matter what you think, because if he beats three contenders he will have earned a shot.

bad fight for griffin………if forest does what hes known for….brawl…. houston cathes him once and its over

Also I think if Forrest can pull off this win (and I think Forrest would be the underdog in this fight by the way) He would have set up a nice rematch with Jardine. Because, you know, he beats the guy that beat the guy who beat him.

Also I think if Forrest can pull off this win (and I think Forrest would be the underdog in this fight by the way) He would have set up a nice rematch with Jardine. Because, you know, he beats the guy that beat the guy who beat him.

lol ok did bloody mess give anyone a headache w/ that last line?? lol

hahaha. okay, BLOodyMEss, okay. classy name btw.

Alexander will go 1-2 in his next 3 UFC fights, assuming they put him up against contenders. mark my words.

go look on sherdog.com most of H.A’s wins come from ko but he even said he needed to work on hes submisions and 1 of his losses came from a sub(week ground game!!!!!)

besides, you missed my point completely, blome.

my point was, Alexander isn’t anywhere CLOSE to a title shot. sure, if he wins 3 more fights against contenders…sure, then he’s a lot closer. but 3 more fights could take us to the middle of 2008, assuming there are no training injuries or other scheduling conflicts. That’s NO WHERE CLOSE. try reading the whole post before cracking on someone.

Whoever wins will definitely be by KO.

OK now we all saw what Housten did to Jardine but I have a suspision that Jardine was over confident coming into that fight,not to take anything away from Alexander but lets see how he does against someone who is going to fight an intelegent fight and try to pick him apart.
I dont see Forest getting beat in the same way Jardine did.

I like Griffin a lot, but i don’t think he is capable of KO-ing many fighters. not saying he won’t KO Alexander (we really don’t know what to expect from Alexander, as most of us have only witnessed his one fight, and he did seem rocked by an early punch by Jardine…albeit, for a split second). But I think if Griffin wins this, he wins it by submission (rear naked or triangle choke). that’s how he usually wins (that and via decision). Plus, he might be cautious of standing with Alexander.

if Alexander wins, i see it by KO or TKO via strikes, much like Jardine.

Any real fighter wants to fight the best. Alexander is good but not that good. Don’t think Forrest would turn this one down. It wasn’t even like it was a 1 punch knockout by Alexander. It took more than a few to put away Jardine. Forrest hasn’t got K.O. power mind. Rampage, Chuck, Wanderlei and Henderson have to name but a few.

The real Forrest would put Alexander on his back and work from there.

I bet HA would gas quickly.

I bet it Alexander vs Thiago Silva

I have so much respect for Alexander, i wnder what would happen if he beat Forrest. Maybe a title shot?

I’d rather see McFedries and Alexander go at it.

Looking at both of there lasts fights, I’d say Alexander takes this one. And i’ll tell ya what, Machida needs to either be tested and proven or exposed already, throw that freakin fool into the mix already!! He is like the LHW Vera, who obviosuly has talent, but has yet to be tested agsint a legit contendar. I know Machida has beaten Rich and Penn, but I mean somebody in his own freakin weight class.

McFedries is a Middleweight. Alexander is a light heavyweight. Also, Alexander is a lot closer to a title shot than Shamrock, who has been pathetic the last 7 years. And let’s not forget that 2 and a half months is good enough rest for griffin if he does fight in august. One guy mentioned huerta fighting evans 2 and a half months after his war with garcia. Last year, Josh Neer fought in UFC 62 against Nick Diaz less than two months after his 3-round fight with Josh Burkman at UFC 61. Hermes Franca was ALSO on both those fight cards as well. To me, a Griffin-Alexander fight is very possible in August/September. Should be interesting to see what happens.

I’d rather see McFedries and Alexander go at it.

That would be very very nice but they are in different weight classes.

I just read UFC 74 Babalu vs. David Heath.

Alexander was a small 205 weighing in at 202 without cutting weight … I bet he could get down too 185 with the right ppl …. I was at UFC 71 and I think Rich Franklin walks around bigger then him.

Also , Forrest by sub..

yeah, but for every UFC fight you name where a fighter had only 2 months rest, I can point to 10 where a fighter had 4 or 5 months rest. The point is, the UFC (unlike the PRIDE of old) gives their fighters too much time between fights—and the standard practice is MUCH closer to 4 or 5 months than it is 2.

and the comment about Alexander being as close to a title shot as Shamrock was SARCASM. Shamrock’s retired, if you hadn’t noticed. he’s NEVER getting a title shot. do you get it now?

Howdy guys. I happen to live in Omaha, Nebraska and caught Houston on a morning talk show (Todd-N-Tyler). Houston said that his wrestling was just as good or better than his striking, however when a guy called in to ask him if he trained in any ju-jitsu, Alexander admitted he dosen’t train in ANY Ju-jitsu as of right now.
When they asked him about his training regimen, it seems pretty intense.. to the point of over-training. He said he barely tones down his training before the fight and went as far as to say he gets up and runs the morning of his fight! Thats all i got on this guy, thought I’d throw that to the table

This is simple. Most UFC fighters have mediocre at best stand up skills. Griffin can get away with standing and banging with them. If he tries to put on a striking show with Alexander he is dead. It is all about game plans and if Griffin’s game plan is ego driven, good night.

HOUSTON ALEXANDER IS THE NEXT GSP!

You guys are lookin into this a bit too far.
Houston has one fight in the UFC, knocked out Jardine acting like a monkey. Griffin is a brawler, but now scared.
raise your hand if you doubt this fight will happen

For the people talking about McFedries. He fought at LHW before and could make it again. I don’t know how much he cuts to make MW but he seems like he wealks around close to 205. I doubt he is going back up right now.

WAGNERAV I agree with you in one sense as in anything can happen especially when it comes to contracts (e.g. Brandon Vera) and injuries (e.g. Frank Mir). However it is not how many fights you win that gets you too a shot at the title, its the opponent you fight and how you win.

Look at Rashad for example, for a long time his victories all went to decisions. No one took him seriously until he started to knock folk out and in style as well. You can have 10 victories by decision and not get a title shot and have just 3 fights with convincing knockouts and be the number one contender.

But I agree 3 fights usually means a year if your lucky

McFedries is a Middleweight. Alexander is a light heavyweight. Also, Alexander is a lot closer to a title shot than Shamrock, who has been pathetic the last 7 years. And let’s not forget that 2 and a half months is good enough rest for griffin if he does fight in august. One guy mentioned huerta fighting evans 2 and a half months after his war with garcia. Last year, Josh Neer fought in UFC 62 against Nick Diaz less than two months after his 3-round fight with Josh Burkman at UFC 61. Hermes Franca was ALSO on both those fight cards as well. To me, a Griffin-Alexander fight is very possible in August/September. Should be interesting to see what happens.

McFedries first fight in the UFC was at LHW, and I think he could do equally well in either weight class. Neither McFedries or Alexander have much of a ground game, so it would be a bang-fest from the get-go.

As I alluded to a few weeks ago, Houston Alexander learned how to maul a motha f-er like that from his prison days. Hey 23 hour lockdown will make any dude angry as hell. This guy has arms like he has been doing dips and push ups all day long.

Percentage that Forrest Griffen actually fights Houston Alexander : 42%

I like the idea of these two fighting, yet at the same time Forrest’s name is always in consideration for a title shot. The UFC really needs to pass the torch to some younger guys and allow for a Chuck Liddell vs Forrest match up within the next 6-10 months.

I say have Forrest have his next fight, against a Houston Alexander.

Then have him fight the winner of the Tito-Evans bout, or have him take on Chuck. A title shot should be heavily considered by then.

It just seems with the route Dana and company are heading, guys like Dan Henderson, Mauricio “Shogun” Rua, and possibly Wanderlei Silva will be STEALING away the spotlight and the title bouts and guys like Forrest Griffen, Rashas Evans, and even young beasts like Houston Alexander and Keith Jardine will have to wait at the back of the bus.

Any comments, because I dont think that I am way off base in saying that…..

I agree kevin , I think the Griffins amd Jardines should get shots at the title or atleast at the top contenders ( Rua , Henderson and Silva ) before they just walk in and get a title shot ala Hendo … Id place Tito , Jardine , Griffin , Evans and Lambert ( maybe even Bisping ) ahead of those guys just on UFC experience alone… Hendo has some cage exp but its been what since UFC 20 or something?

They have built/hyped these guys for so long and then just let Pride fighters walk in and take their shots and contender shots away. Good way too lose/confuse fan base …

I wouldnt put Alexander up there with those guys with just one win , but it was a nice and impressive win.. I keep hearing about his power tho , if he had so much punching power then why did he need too knock him out 3 times? Either his power isnt that great of jardine has one the hardest chins in the game .. Cause he took more shots in that series then anyone ive ever seen and was still getting up.. I think Mcfederies hits much much harder then Alexander..

Plus Jardine did knock Houston down with a pretty weak hook , so his chin might not be all that strong.. Even tho it was claimed a slip , I was there and have rewatched the tape several times and he got hit square in the face..

It just seems with the route Dana and company are heading, guys like Dan Henderson, Mauricio “Shogun” Rua, and possibly Wanderlei Silva will be STEALING away the spotlight and the title bouts and guys like Forrest Griffen, Rashas Evans, and even young beasts like Houston Alexander and Keith Jardine will have to wait at the back of the bus.

You were expecting someone to comment on this I assume. Dan Henderson, Shogun, and Wanderlei are all TOP level fighters that are champions or championship material (by winning Pride Tournaments). Forrest, Rashad and Houston Alexander are all still learning the sport. None of them are even close to being as well rounded as the first 3 fighters. Also, Forrest and houston ALexander’s strenghs are their striking. Hendo, Shogun, and Wanderlei all have far supererior striking to both of them. Rashad’s strength is his wrestinling, and Hendo is a better wrestler than him. If either Forrest, Rashad or Alexander fought any one of Hendo, Shogun, or Wanderlei, I don’t only thing that they would get beat and knocked out, but I think that they would also be embarrassed in the process.

Holdin Ropes – you make a good point.

on the most recent topic, I also agree with Kevin and Dayzah. It sucks to see outsiders come in and get title shots before UFC “loyalists” who have been working their asses off for years to earn their shots. i thought Rampage should have fought a 2nd time in the UFC before his title shot (as he requested); i also thought Hendo should have a fight before a title shot. but i think the Gonzaga/CroCop fight changed how the UFC is going to approach a lot of these new guys. they’re sinking a lot of money into these new fighters too.
 
i mean ViolentMike brings up a great point: despite loyalists like Evans, Griffin, etc. working their butts off in the UFC to earn a title shot (and being promoted for years by the UFC), these PRIDE fighters (Rua, Hendo, Minatauro, etc.) also worked their butts off…in PRIDE, and they are considered the best at what they do.

the fact is, the UFC is a TOTALLY different place than it was only 1 year ago. and while Evans/Griffin/Diego/Vera/Swick/etc. might have been close to a title shot then, they are very far away from that now, considering each of their divisions just got (or is about to get) SICK with talent. it’s unfortunate, but such is life.

i will say that with so much talent now in the UFC, it’s not so much about the belts anymore as it is about sweet matchups. you know what i mean? i mean, yes, i’d like to see Rua fight the winner of Rampage/Hendo for the title, but i’d LOVE to see Rua fight Liddell and could care less if it’s for a title or not.

maybe they need to introduce more titles? there would probably be some backlash to that though.

Everyone is making excellent points and I agree that when it comes to Dan Henderson, Wanderlei Silva, and Mauricio Rua, there are few fighters that are as gifted, but the entire point is based on principle, the new kid on the block shoul have to earn their stripes.

I could care less about what happens in Japan or in Panama for that matter. If you come to the UFC, you should have a pop quiz (David Heath, Eddie Sanchez) followed by an exam (Forrest Griffen, Tito Ortiz) before you get to take the big test (Rampage).

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I agree 100% that on paper those 3 fighters are better… But you never know what will happen once in the octogon , which is why they should fight a few times before getting the big title/money shot..

I think Griffin , Jardine , Evans or Tito could stack up against Hendo/Silva/Shogun just fine … They are all great fighters with great trainers and camps… Thats what it boils down too basically ..

Doubt that, Alexander is 36… guy can make waves now, so he needs to do it NOW

Everyone is making excellent points and I agree that when it comes to Dan Henderson, Wanderlei Silva, and Mauricio Rua, there are few fighters that are as gifted, but the entire point is based on principle, the new kid on the block shoul have to earn their stripes.

I could care less about what happens in Japan or in Panama for that matter. If you come to the UFC, you should have a pop quiz (David Heath, Eddie Sanchez) followed by an exam (Forrest Griffen, Tito Ortiz) before you get to take the big test (Rampage).

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You score a 9.5 on that post! But some of these big name guys might have it in their contract that they get a title shot early so- maybe they go pop quiz then right to the final exam. But generally that’s the way to do it.

maybe they need to introduce more titles? there would probably be some backlash to that though.

The scale is spread out pretty well – 15-20 lbs apart and it stops at 205. So what if you change 205 to Cruiser weight (they have that in boxing) added a 230 as the new Light Heavyweight, keep 265 as Heavyweight and 265 is Super Heavyweight? Those two plus 145 makes 3 new categories.

As I alluded to a few weeks ago, Houston Alexander learned how to maul a motha f-er like that from his prison days. Hey 23 hour lockdown will make any dude angry as hell.

Kevin how do you know this guy was in prison? Were you guys cellmates? Did you get your pipe snaked out by him?

i think Forrest takes this one….If you have watched any of Houstons fights before Jardine, he isnt good at all on the ground, and Forrest is underratted on the ground…i think Forrest needed that last fight, he was so much more technical then he has ever been, and by the looks of it, he could a lot of mid teir guys apart..Obviously Houston has heavy ass hands, that goes without being said, but like someone already mentioned he hasnt shown much else..go to youtube and watch some of his other fights, they arent that impressive…I think the fact that Forrest doesnt want to brawl is a good thing, hes smarter, hes got amazing cardio, and now he has Randy in his corner, I see Forrest getting better and better with every fight….to be honest, I think Ramirez would take Houston, and I promise you if Forrest and Houston go to the ground, Houston is getting tapped

Yeah Mama’s Boy thats exactly how I know that he was in prison, we were cell mates together and we had kitchen detail. What a mess you are dude. Maybe your brain hurts from all the skull f-ing that you went through in the pen.

i read in an earlier comment Babalu/Heath as UFC74! is this true? Babalu is favorite fighter and i think this is a great comeback for him, he can show everyone he still has it and i think he will win be submission in the third, or win by split decision. Go Sobral!! Woof!!

ChuckLand, yes it’s true. Babalu/Heath. Heath confirmed it will be for UFC 74.

And Houston Alexander’s camp has since said that there is no truth to the rumors about Griffin being his next fight. Hate to say i told ya so, but…

houston Alexander vs. Alessio Sakara should be a weak match. Houston will overwhelm him and end it very quickly. HA will be looking good after two swift knockouts.

You might wanna mention that this is (as far as I know) the last fight for Griffin on his remaining contract. Maybe Dana wants to give him the boot by making Alexander knock him out. I can imagine that Dana was not too happy with Griffin announcing after the fight that he was indeed avoiding a brawl and was scared to get caught.

forest is mr. whites main man right up there with chuck ledell. it dont matter what forest says as long as the seats are full and that he does. forest speaks from the heart and that was his game plane cause the one thing you might atall be right about is that if forest lost that fight he would have been in a world of crap three in a row does not look good even if your a fighter for the fans. but he was making sure he won and he did that.forest could have brawled the old way but it was too risky he played it safe and won I think as the wins rack up we will see more of the old forest.

if they indeed do fight, i have a gut feeling that forrest is going to get absolutely destroyed. i’ve always thought forrest was very overrated. he’s fun to watch, but overrated. if this happens, i see it ending quickly by KO.

im sad to say it cause i love forest but im afraid your right.
watching him fight last a bellfest was quite boring i think him and bonner was a great fight but you need more than one.

Alexander is a true power house,but i think Griffin is too much for him.Alot of people think Forrests’ last fight was boring,I disagree, i thought he fought a very tactical fight.He basically picked his apponent apart,and my opinion that is just as good as an ko.Forrest has a good chin, i pick Forrest via first round tko.

Alexander is a true power house,but i think Griffin is too much for him.Alot of people think Forrests’ last fight was boring,I disagree, i thought he fought a very tactical fight.He basically picked his apponent apart,and my opinion that is just as good as an ko.Forrest has a good chin, i pick Forrest via first round tko.

H.A Is a better stand up fighter than forrest and is also very good on the ground I just cant see forrest winning wherever the fight goes.

for all you people running your mouth about houston none of you know where he is comming from, cause he is nebraskas best kept secret he has been fighting for over seven years taking on every single type of fighting style you can imagine no one has heard of him or who he has fought because no one even credits nebraska fights, houston has fought over 300 fights and mostly all of them were a knockout within the first round he even took out a 400 pound fighter with a knockout, all of you people think this is a fluk but hell no this mother fucker is for real and he is going all the way, cause no one is as cut or ready for this as he is, he has been waiting for someone to give him a challenge and jardine and sakara were just too easy for this accuratly acclaimet fighter.