that would be awesome if he fought babalu, i’d be cheering for babalu for sure…make it happen dana white!

At this point its hard for anyone to say that Babalu is in the same league as Shogun. I know he wants a rematch but come on. This fight doesn’t do anything for me. Must see shogun fight some competition! Noone will look at shoguns record and say..“well he was never able to beat babalu”. Ever true mma fan knows that this fight is lop sided at this point of both of their careers.

“I think I never trained as hard as I’m doing now. I’m ready to fight anytime.”

Just once I’d like to hear a fighter say something different- “Training? Enh, not so much”

“I think I never trained as hard as I’m doing now. I’m ready to fight anytime.”

Just once I’d like to hear a fighter say something different- “Training? Enh, not so much”

listen to some of karo’s interviews, apparently he doesn’t train for fights…

OOOH Babalu…now thats a real challenge and beating him should put Shogun right in title contention. Whatever

this reminds me of big tim calling out frank mir what a joke

This would be a huge mistake if babalu took this fight. Shogun would be to much for him to handle.

this reminds me of big tim calling out frank mir what a joke

how true.

this would also be 3 losses in a row for babalu if he were to lose right?

He’s not calling him out. He is saying that he is/was never one to choose his opponents. Whomever his employer puts in front of him, he fights and destroys (in most cases). He is just saying that since Babalu beat him, he would love it if he ever got the opportunity to avenge that loss. At this point in time, Shogun is on a different level than just about every single 205lb fighter. It has only been 10 months since Babalu had a title shot against Liddell. Prior to that fight, Babalu was on 10 fight win streak before being KO’d by Liddell and then Jason Lambert.

NOW, I got a question for everyone. I was thinking about this last night. Of course everyone knows that Dan Henderson is the PRIDE 185lb and 205lb champion. He held the 185lb title for quite some time, and just recently won the 205lb by KO’ing Wanderlei Silva. He is the first and only MMA fighter to hold 2 belts simultaneously. He is fighting Rampage in a few months.

Now, say he knocks out Rampage and wins the UFC 205lb belt. Then instead of defending it right away, he drops back down to his natural weight of 185, and knocks out Anderson Silva for the UFC 185lb belt. That would give him 4 belts at the same time, when no other fighter ever even held 2.

If Dan was to then retire, would he be considered the best MMA fighter of all time? Or would have have to defend all 4 of his belts successfully for about a years time before retiring. I am very interested to see what people say about this. I am going on my lunch now, so I won’t be able to read replies for an hour and a half, but I’m looking forward to it.

Shogun is supposed to be the #1 lightheavy weight in the world (according to MMAweekly) and he wants to fight a guy who has lost his last to fights very unimpressively? Way to challenge yourself man. I love Babalu but I agree this would be a bad fight for him. Of course after his last two performances I don’t know what would be a good fight for him. Hopefully he can learn to box and become relevant again. WAR Babalu’s comeback.

Don’t take this the wrong way, I mean, I like Shogun as much as the next guy.

But I would love to see Babalu whoop him.

He’s not calling him out. He is saying that he is/was never one to choose his opponents. Whomever his employer puts in front of him, he fights and destroys (in most cases). He is just saying that since Babalu beat him, he would love it if he ever got the opportunity to avenge that loss. At this point in time, Shogun is on a different level than just about every single 205lb fighter. It has only been 10 months since Babalu had a title shot against Liddell. Prior to that fight, Babalu was on 10 fight win streak before being KO’d by Liddell and then Jason Lambert.

NOW, I got a question for everyone. I was thinking about this last night. Of course everyone knows that Dan Henderson is the PRIDE 185lb and 205lb champion. He held the 185lb title for quite some time, and just recently won the 205lb by KO’ing Wanderlei Silva. He is the first and only MMA fighter to hold 2 belts simultaneously. He is fighting Rampage in a few months.

Now, say he knocks out Rampage and wins the UFC 205lb belt. Then instead of defending it right away, he drops back down to his natural weight of 185, and knocks out Anderson Silva for the UFC 185lb belt. That would give him 4 belts at the same time, when no other fighter ever even held 2.

If Dan was to then retire, would he be considered the best MMA fighter of all time? Or would have have to defend all 4 of his belts successfully for about a years time before retiring. I am very interested to see what people say about this. I am going on my lunch now, so I won’t be able to read replies for an hour and a half, but I’m looking forward to it.

Okay, yeah if he did that I’d consider him the greatest. Don’t think he will, but if he does, well then yeah.

everyone is making to much of Babalu’s two losses in a row, he was on a ten fight win stread and beat by Chuck for the belt(not a bad loss, chuck just about beats everyone), and he got caught got with a punch by Jason(it happens, remember CC/GG? or VB/RC II? or Hughes/Pierre I, armbar last second?) and it wasnt the end or their careers, Babalu is my favorite fighter and yes Shogun is better now, but Renato would not get destroyed like everyone is saying i think it would be fight and wouldnt be shocked to see Sobral pull it out, AGAIN!
WOOF!!!!

lost to chuck sorry for the mistake, but i make it up in the parenthesis

everyone is making to much of Babalu’s two losses in a row, he was on a ten fight win stread and beat by Chuck for the belt(not a bad loss, chuck just about beats everyone), and he got caught got with a punch by Jason(it happens, remember CC/GG? or VB/RC II? or Hughes/Pierre I, armbar last second?) and it wasnt the end or their careers, Babalu is my favorite fighter and yes Shogun is better now, but Renato would not get destroyed like everyone is saying i think it would be fight and wouldnt be shocked to see Sobral pull it out, AGAIN!
WOOF!!!!

i agree, people shouldn’t sleep on babalu just because he got caught by lambert and beat by chuck liddell, babalu is still a very very good fighter…i’m not saying he’ll beat rua, i think rua would win, but babalu has fought a lot of great fighters and would be prepared for this fight for sure…he took fedor the distance once upon a time for crying out loud, FEDOR!

everyone is making to much of Babalu’s two losses in a row, he was on a ten fight win stread and beat by Chuck for the belt(not a bad loss, chuck just about beats everyone), and he got caught got with a punch by Jason(it happens, remember CC/GG? or VB/RC II? or Hughes/Pierre I, armbar last second?) and it wasnt the end or their careers, Babalu is my favorite fighter and yes Shogun is better now, but Renato would not get destroyed like everyone is saying i think it would be fight and wouldnt be shocked to see Sobral pull it out, AGAIN!
WOOF!!!!

It’s not that he just lost his last two fights it’s the way he lost them. It wasn’t like he lost two close decisions or “just caught” a lucky punch. Babalu is my favorite fighter too but loosing fights via KO does things to fighters. Babalu has 2/3 of the MMA game down but he has got to improve/get a standup game to grow and be competative. His compitition has figured him out and he can’t just win on his submission game anymore.

If this fight goes down it would be the end of Babalu’s career. Shogun would dismantle this guy at this point in his career. I think very highly of Sobral but I wouldnt want to see his carrer end in the UFC because of a 3 loss situation. It sounds great on paper and naturally Shogun wants the loss back but Shogun is arguably the best 205 in the world for a reason. I think Shogun shoud get Lambert

Shogun is supposed to be the #1 lightheavy weight in the world (according to MMAweekly) and he wants to fight a guy who has lost his last to fights very unimpressively? Way to challenge yourself man. I love Babalu but I agree this would be a bad fight for him. Of course after his last two performances I don’t know what would be a good fight for him. Hopefully he can learn to box and become relevant again. WAR Babalu’s comeback.

Dude he said he never picks his fights, that is what he just said. Now your like “way to pick babalu and challenge yourself man”. Are you stoned or just dumb? Obviously the interviewer was like “how do you feel about fighting babalu” and that was how he responded. Try to comprehend what your reading before you jump to conclusions. By the way not all Americans are as slow as “All American”, just so you all know.

What do these have in common?

Liddell vs. Horn II
Rampage vs. Eastman II
Penn vs. Pulver II
Shogun vs. Babalu II

Okay, yeah if he did that I’d consider him the greatest. Don’t think he will, but if he does, well then yeah.

A better Matt Hughes, oh yeah he will be a hall of famer.

i agree, people shouldn’t sleep on babalu just because he got caught by lambert and beat by chuck liddell, babalu is still a very very good fighter…i’m not saying he’ll beat rua, i think rua would win, but babalu has fought a lot of great fighters and would be prepared for this fight for sure…he took fedor the distance once upon a time for crying out loud, FEDOR!

Great points guys. Lambert was a guy the UFC put in there so Babalu would get his confidence back. I think he felt like “why am I fighting this bum” and was not well prepare or motivated to fight Lambert. The rest is history. I think Babalu still is a very good fighter.

Shogun is supposed to be the #1 lightheavy weight in the world (according to MMAweekly) and he wants to fight a guy who has lost his last to fights very unimpressively? Way to challenge yourself man. I love Babalu but I agree this would be a bad fight for him. Of course after his last two performances I don’t know what would be a good fight for him. Hopefully he can learn to box and become relevant again. WAR Babalu’s comeback.

He wants to avenge a loss. The UFC seems to be using that theme a lot these days. They should put Shogun against Forrest Griffin or someone else who is a big name. It doesn’t matter who it is, just as long as people deem his opponent “good” and he destroys them. Then, he takes the title.

Dude he said he never picks his fights, that is what he just said. Now your like “way to pick babalu and challenge yourself man”. Are you stoned or just dumb? Obviously the interviewer was like “how do you feel about fighting babalu” and that was how he responded. Try to comprehend what your reading before you jump to conclusions. By the way not all Americans are as slow as “All American”, just so you all know.

This is the second interview in which he has stated that he wanted to fight Babalu. I know he doesn’t pick his fights but he sure is campaining for this one. So I’ll stick to my opinion. So instead of saying that I’m “stoned,dumb,jump to conclusion and slow” why can’t you form your own opionon? Too Stupid?

This is for Hendo to be the greatest he needs to beat Shogun and Liddell. There is only one fighter that is the greatest now is Fedor, he can beat anyone in any weight class ( Shogun, Liddell, Couture, Gonzaga). Gonzaga is underestimated fighter, Couture won’t last pass the second round with him. Shogun should fight Babalu its his first fight in UFC, and Babalu needs a comeback.

Give Shogun Forrest Griffin. Would be a well known name he can destroy.

I would love to see Babalu get back to his self, but the guy just doesnt seem to be one of the top 5 205 fighters like he was 2 years ago. Doesnt seem to have the fire he once had… Advantage Shogun, but when Babal wakes up, watch out UFC LHW fighters. He can beat anyone on any given night.

Everyone makes this big fuss about Shogun like he is some kind of God but all he seems to do is stomp on peoples heads and basicly do all the things in PRIDE that are ilegal in UFC,I agree hes a very exciting fighter and all but I dont see him dominating the LH division like people are making out.I want to see him fight Bisping and I think he would get stopped,mark my words on that one.

The UFC will not match Babalu and Shogun immediately for 3 simple reasons.

1. Babalu is a highly marketable fighter (a probable champ in any other organization at 205) and has a huge fanbase. Babalu is also on the last fight of his UFC contract and coming off 2 KO losses. The UFC needs Babalu to win his next fight and then sign him to another contract.

2. Shogun is a virtual unknown to the MMA newbie masses in the US. The UFC will want to give him one or two fights before risking a loss. No matter what any dunce might say, Babalu could def. Shogun again and that would be devastating to Shogun’s UFC start.

3. Money. The UFC will bill this rematch as Shogun’s revenge and they need both fighters healthy, with name notoriety and a couple of consecutive wins to promote it as a megafight. Sobral is no Eastman and the UFC realizes that.

It’s amazing that Dana is waiting ’til UFC 76 to bring Shogun out there instead of an earlier card. What is the holdup? Dana already conceded that Shogun is very marketable. Shogun is chomping at the bit to fight, and is not injured.

I could see not using him in Ireland, because of the relative lack of fan knowledge/interest there. But, there’s no reason not to put Shogun on 74 or 75 at least. You’ve got guys like Cote, Lutter and Matt Hamill all fighting on those cards while Shogun waits. Ridiculous. Who the hell wants to see Lutter or Hamill again?

Everyone makes this big fuss about Shogun like he is some kind of God but all he seems to do is stomp on peoples heads and basicly do all the things in PRIDE that are ilegal in UFC,I agree hes a very exciting fighter and all but I dont see him dominating the LH division like people are making out.I want to see him fight Bisping and I think he would get stopped,mark my words on that one.

How did I know you were gonna turn this isnt a Bisping thing? Oh yeah, Bisping follows UFC rules well too, just ask Josh Haynes who he almost knocked out with a knee to the face. Did he bust up Elvis with an illegal blow too?

Savage, I really dont agree with you. Babalu is not a big name, infact I think that was one of the lowest veiwed fights last year when Babalu fought Chuck. Babalu is a GREAT fighter, but marketable? Not after losing two straight… big name? Maybe with old Pride…

no its bullshit why should babalu get this fight if anyone should get it, it should be jason lambert

Everyone makes this big fuss about Shogun like he is some kind of God but all he seems to do is stomp on peoples heads and basicly do all the things in PRIDE that are ilegal in UFC,I agree hes a very exciting fighter and all but I dont see him dominating the LH division like people are making out.I want to see him fight Bisping and I think he would get stopped,mark my words on that one.

Mark my words as well. If Shogun fights Bisping in his deput, Bisping will get destroyed. Bisping has yet to be tested. His next fight is with Matt Hammill, and people are saying that this is Bisping’s toughest match to date. If Shogun was to fight Hammill, it would be Shogun’s easiest fight of his career. Shogun is levels above Bisping. But don’t worry, Dana would never send out his UK golden boy to the octagon to risk his life against Shogun.

Good post Savage. What you said makes good business sense.

Babalu is a good fighter, no question. But Chuck was actually right for once, when he said that Babalu is only famous for Chuck kicking him in the head. Other than that and getting KTFO by Lambert, there are not many ordinary UFC fans (who obviously don’t know about Sherdog) that can name any of Babalu’s other fights. He is simply not that marketable.

That goes for Shogun as well though. Of all the people one here, how many people have seen all of Shogun’s fights? So other that the big hype in forums and what not, who really knows the capabilities of Shogun? I have seen a hand full of his fights and yeah he is a good fighter, but every fight I saw he kicked the shit out of people, and I mean that in a literal sense. When his opponents were laying on the ground he would stop on their faces or attempt an endless supply of soccer kicks. So I agree with what was said before….let’s see how he does in the Octagon. Case in point: Cro Cop

that would be awesome if he fought babalu, i’d be cheering for babalu for sure…make it happen dana white!

Lets go Babalu!

He is simply not that marketable.
That goes for Shogun as well though.

I don’t think you need to see all of their fights for them to be marketable….it just helps

everyone is making to much of Babalu’s two losses in a row, he was on a ten fight win stread and beat by Chuck for the belt(not a bad loss, chuck just about beats everyone), and he got caught got with a punch by Jason(it happens, remember CC/GG? or VB/RC II? or Hughes/Pierre I, armbar last second?) and it wasnt the end or their careers, Babalu is my favorite fighter and yes Shogun is better now, but Renato would not get destroyed like everyone is saying i think it would be fight and wouldnt be shocked to see Sobral pull it out, AGAIN!
WOOF!!!!

I totally agree, i honestly think he would

no its bullshit why should babalu get this fight if anyone should get it, it should be jason lambert

i dont think lambert renued his contract

i would love 2 c it

Stomping people on the ground is crap, its like hitting on the back of the head shit, all those fighters that do that Shogun, Silva will have a difficult time adjusting to the new UFC rules. Half of the training Shoto boxers stomp dudes on the ground. Shogun vs Lambert or Alexander, the dude that KO’d Jardine, should be a good fight, lets see how Shogun does against killer uppercuts to the jaw.

Stomping people on the ground is crap, its like hitting on the back of the head shit, all those fighters that do that Shogun, Silva will have a difficult time adjusting to the new UFC rules.

Nah….these guys are ajusting 2 new/different rules all the time. U think the pride guys only fought in Pride and nowhere else? Same goes for the UFC guys. All of them had 2 adjust from their own discipline 2 become Mixed Martial Artists.

Stomping people on the ground is crap, its like hitting on the back of the head shit, all those fighters that do that Shogun, Silva will have a difficult time adjusting to the new UFC rules. Half of the training Shoto boxers stomp dudes on the ground. Shogun vs Lambert or Alexander, the dude that KO’d Jardine, should be a good fight, lets see how Shogun does against killer uppercuts to the jaw.

It is Chute Box, not “Shoto”, and Shogun did pretty well against a heavyweight in Randleman, as well as Overeem, under ufc rules. He also did very well on his back against Arona, who is a god in ADCC.

Everyone makes this big fuss about Shogun like he is some kind of God but all he seems to do is stomp on peoples heads and basicly do all the things in PRIDE that are ilegal in UFC,I agree hes a very exciting fighter and all but I dont see him dominating the LH division like people are making out.I want to see him fight Bisping and I think he would get stopped,mark my words on that one.

Bisbing nearly lost to Sinosic, as well as “Ravashing Red”. Shogun would easily win by first round KO. And watch his fight with little Nog to see how he would gnp Bisbing without stomps. And little Nog has WAY better ground skills than Bisbing does.

i thought it was “shooto” not “shoto”???

I think that Bisping can have a great fight with anybody in the division.

I think that Bisping can have a great fight with anybody in the division.

And that’s because you only watch the UFC and lick the nuts of every TUF alumni. Aren’t you the one that was just saying how great Kerry Schall is? If you had seen just one PRIDE event you would know whats up. Griffin and Bisping would be killed by Shogun. As a matter of fact, Forrest wouldnt even take the fight. Since Jardine KO’d him the F out, he is scared to get hit. If he’s scared to get hit by Hector Ramirez, do you actually think he’d fight Shogun? Bisping will not fight anyone that has talent for at least another 2 years. Dana will keep giving him opponents that have no chance to beat him. Lets see if he can find another fighter with a losing record to fight Bisping like he did by having Elvis fight him.

OOOH Babalu…now thats a real challenge and beating him should put Shogun right in title contention. Whatever

Once he’s on top then he can clean up his record like the Iceman did… well… almost.

Nah….these guys are ajusting 2 new/different rules all the time. U think the pride guys only fought in Pride and nowhere else? Same goes for the UFC guys. All of them had 2 adjust from their own discipline 2 become Mixed Martial Artists.

Shogun’s first fight should be against… Elvis Sinosic! Two thugs stand Elvis up in the center of the octagon while Shogun just wails away on him. Elvis falls to 8-12 or whatever.

Shogun’s first fight should be against… Elvis Sinosic! Two thugs stand Elvis up in the center of the octagon while Shogun just wails away on him. Elvis falls to 8-12 or whatever.

I feel bad for Elvis. He is the Justin Eilers of the lhw division :(

lol, Elvis is a joke, no idea how he beat Horn

There is Chute box and Shooto fighting.

That is actually an excellent match. Shogun obviously doesn’t want to be fed some random can. Bablu though he had some horrible losses recently, can still put up a good fight. It’s as exciting and anticipated as Rampage vs. Eastman.

I hope to see another spectacular card in 76. matches I want to see:

Chucky vs. Wandy (winner gets title match)
Karo Parisyan vs. Diego Sanchez (Parisyan wins he gets lined up for a title match)
Shopgun vs. Babalu (great intro match, sets up SHogun in the contenters position if he wins)
Maybe another Forrest Griffin fight?

He’s not calling him out. He is saying that he is/was never one to choose his opponents. Whomever his employer puts in front of him, he fights and destroys (in most cases). He is just saying that since Babalu beat him, he would love it if he ever got the opportunity to avenge that loss. At this point in time, Shogun is on a different level than just about every single 205lb fighter. It has only been 10 months since Babalu had a title shot against Liddell. Prior to that fight, Babalu was on 10 fight win streak before being KO’d by Liddell and then Jason Lambert.

NOW, I got a question for everyone. I was thinking about this last night. Of course everyone knows that Dan Henderson is the PRIDE 185lb and 205lb champion. He held the 185lb title for quite some time, and just recently won the 205lb by KO’ing Wanderlei Silva. He is the first and only MMA fighter to hold 2 belts simultaneously. He is fighting Rampage in a few months.

Now, say he knocks out Rampage and wins the UFC 205lb belt. Then instead of defending it right away, he drops back down to his natural weight of 185, and knocks out Anderson Silva for the UFC 185lb belt. That would give him 4 belts at the same time, when no other fighter ever even held 2.

If Dan was to then retire, would he be considered the best MMA fighter of all time? Or would have have to defend all 4 of his belts successfully for about a years time before retiring. I am very interested to see what people say about this. I am going on my lunch now, so I won’t be able to read replies for an hour and a half, but I’m looking forward to it.

If Dan beats Rampage and then goes down to take the UFC middlewieght tittle,then I will consider him as the best right along with Randy.I will say Dan can be considered as the G.O.A.T,only if he can defend those tittles.I’ll give him 2 years to try.

Great points guys. Lambert was a guy the UFC put in there so Babalu would get his confidence back. I think he felt like “why am I fighting this bum” and was not well prepare or motivated to fight Lambert. The rest is history. I think Babalu still is a very good fighter.

Babalu is still a great fighter agreed. taking Lambert lightly….possibility but his bad. Losing 3 in a row is subject for termination no matter who you fight. Just the way it is in this sport.

Are both tittles going to be on the line?Because when Rampage wins he will hold the UFC and PRIDE LHW belts.Then after he defend those belts against Shogun and Wandy,I will call Rampage the G.O.A.T.
 But if Randy defends his belt against Gonzaga and then defends against Fedor,Randy will be the greatest of all time.

What do these have in common?

Liddell vs. Horn II
Rampage vs. Eastman II
Penn vs. Pulver II
Shogun vs. Babalu II

Not every rematch end with the other fighter winning.

I would love to see Babalu win this one, he really needs a win and beating shogun would just be awesome.

It’s amazing that Dana is waiting ’til UFC 76 to bring Shogun out there instead of an earlier card. What is the holdup? Dana already conceded that Shogun is very marketable. Shogun is chomping at the bit to fight, and is not injured.

I could see not using him in Ireland, because of the relative lack of fan knowledge/interest there. But, there’s no reason not to put Shogun on 74 or 75 at least. You’ve got guys like Cote, Lutter and Matt Hamill all fighting on those cards while Shogun waits. Ridiculous. Who the hell wants to see Lutter or Hamill again?

I don’t see any reason at all to not put him on 74, so I imagine they had some difficulties with doing so. Maybe they couldn’t find a fighter, or maybe the card was full and they didn’t want to bump fighters they already gave fights to. I’m sure they could have put him on 75, but decided to debut him in America, which makes a lot of sense for a couple of reasons.

By no means is there a conspiracy or anything to keep Pride fighters like Shogun down. The UFC wants Shogun to succeed and gain popularity as soon as all the fans like us do, it’s absolutely great for business. If they couldn’t give him an earlier fight, there’s probably a good reason. With the recent purchase of Pride, there’s a lot of scrambling in Zuffa to figure out what to do with the fighters and the Pride name. Once everything settles and is in place, it’s going to be one hell of a good time.

Also, Shogun vs Babalu is a hell of a lot better than all the other UFC debut matches we’ve seen. We should be so lucky that the UFC makes this Shogun’s first match. I don’t know what dream match-up you guys want instead, but it ain’t happening. They won’t give Shogun a huge main-event status superstar like Liddell in his very first fight in the UFC.

Babalu is a very good fighter ranked just below the elite guys in the division, and he holds a previous win over Shogun which would make the fight marketable and interesting to newer fans and older fans alike.

He’s not calling him out. He is saying that he is/was never one to choose his opponents. Whomever his employer puts in front of him, he fights and destroys (in most cases). He is just saying that since Babalu beat him, he would love it if he ever got the opportunity to avenge that loss. At this point in time, Shogun is on a different level than just about every single 205lb fighter. It has only been 10 months since Babalu had a title shot against Liddell. Prior to that fight, Babalu was on 10 fight win streak before being KO’d by Liddell and then Jason Lambert.

NOW, I got a question for everyone. I was thinking about this last night. Of course everyone knows that Dan Henderson is the PRIDE 185lb and 205lb champion. He held the 185lb title for quite some time, and just recently won the 205lb by KO’ing Wanderlei Silva. He is the first and only MMA fighter to hold 2 belts simultaneously. He is fighting Rampage in a few months.

Now, say he knocks out Rampage and wins the UFC 205lb belt. Then instead of defending it right away, he drops back down to his natural weight of 185, and knocks out Anderson Silva for the UFC 185lb belt. That would give him 4 belts at the same time, when no other fighter ever even held 2.

If Dan was to then retire, would he be considered the best MMA fighter of all time? Or would have have to defend all 4 of his belts successfully for about a years time before retiring. I am very interested to see what people say about this. I am going on my lunch now, so I won’t be able to read replies for an hour and a half, but I’m looking forward to it.

I’d like to see this too, but most unfortunately dana “pig vomit” white would not let this happen. Shame on him!

Everyone makes this big fuss about Shogun like he is some kind of God but all he seems to do is stomp on peoples heads and basicly do all the things in PRIDE that are ilegal in UFC,I agree hes a very exciting fighter and all but I dont see him dominating the LH division like people are making out.I want to see him fight Bisping and I think he would get stopped,mark my words on that one.

Put your money where your mouth is. If the fight ever happens I will bet you up to a grand on shogun all day buddy!

A joke to even compare Bisping (at this point in his career at least) to Shogun.

First of all, Bisping needs some competition.

Bisping vs. Forrest is a great matchup for both, that is marketable… Forrest would likely destroy Bisping, as he is waaaay bigger and has heavier hands, but Bisping has shown some ability to turn the ship around, albeit against Schaeffer and Elvis (no great shakes!). Bisping vs. Jardine would be cool as well.

Shogun should get Lambert as an opening act, and then the Tito/Rashad Winner

Chuck vs Wandy is giving me wood! Who the winner should fight ..to be determined

Would like to see Brandon Vera take a plunge at 205, this guy is sooooo over hyped! Beating a shot Mir, means sh*t!

Shogun is probably out – he injured his knee during training.

Shogun is probably out – he injured his knee during training.

Is it that bad? UFC 76 isn’t for another 3 months.

Vera – Shogun would be a good matchup. They are both raw and need more decipline.

You guys are crazy if you think Shogun is gonna walk right up to a prime 205 fighter in the UFC. Show me any named fighter that was brought into the UFC and had to face someone REAL?

This makes sense. Every fighter wants to avenge their first loss. ’Page got Eastman so give him Babalu.

What do these have in common?

Liddell vs. Horn II
Rampage vs. Eastman II
Penn vs. Pulver II
Shogun vs. Babalu II

Wandy vs. Rampage II
Hughes vs. Trigg II
Tim vs. AA II
Tim vs. AA III
Belfort vs. RC II (unlucky shot for Randy, but still)
Sobral vs. Shogun II (love to see it happen)

now i ask Pat, what do these have common?

that would be awesome if he fought babalu, i’d be cheering for babalu for sure…make it happen dana white!

Its not gonna happen yet cos sobral has lost his last 2 fights, my money would be on shogun lambert and chuck have already proved babalu cant take a punch

Babalu is a good fighter, no question. But Chuck was actually right for once, when he said that Babalu is only famous for Chuck kicking him in the head. Other than that and getting KTFO by Lambert, there are not many ordinary UFC fans (who obviously don’t know about Sherdog) that can name any of Babalu’s other fights. He is simply not that marketable.

That goes for Shogun as well though. Of all the people one here, how many people have seen all of Shogun’s fights? So other that the big hype in forums and what not, who really knows the capabilities of Shogun? I have seen a hand full of his fights and yeah he is a good fighter, but every fight I saw he kicked the shit out of people, and I mean that in a literal sense. When his opponents were laying on the ground he would stop on their faces or attempt an endless supply of soccer kicks. So I agree with what was said before….let’s see how he does in the Octagon. Case in point: Cro Cop

chuck is always right.