Bj looked slim last night when Spike showed him training. I think he’s going to kill Pulver. I said before and I’ll say it again, BJ is going to own MMA for the next two years.

How heavy was he when he fought Machida, anyone know? I heard he was like 215. How do you get back down to 155????

How heavy was he when he fought Machida, anyone know? I heard he was like 215. How do you get back down to 155????

No way he was that big… I think he was around 190.

Havent we heard this before, BJ being in top shape, ready for the world?

If it turns out to be true, maybe he could hook Tim Sylvia up.

The pressure is most on BJ in this fight. Not only is this is a fight he should win, but he has the added pressure of avenging a previous loss. He will most likely win unanimous decision unless Jens catches him with something crazy late.

How heavy was he when he fought Machida, anyone know? I heard he was like 215. How do you get back down to 155????

I do not think he was 215. But I wouldn’t doubt pushing two bills.

It said he is in better shape than he was against Matt Hughes?
REALLY!?
I thought it was in tip-top shape during UFC 63 and he felt better than anything ever created. But who gassed out in the third round?

Penn looked better against GSP than Hughes. He was the plan B after GSP backed out due to injury so maybe he didn’t have enough time to prepare.

yea its already over ill put my life on penn i think hes better standing and on the ground than pulver if penn only losses a split decision to st Pierre its guaranteed that hes gonna beat pulver he isnt half the fighter that st peirre is

5-8 miles a day is a lot of running…

5-8 miles a day is a lot of running…

when i was in the army we ran that much. not bad if you build up to it. my pick is bj 2nd round ref stoppage.

I’m expecting Penn to be phenomenal at 155. Theres no way I see Pulver winning, but I aint goona lie I took Pulver on the odds. If he pays I/m drinking my ass off

He looked pretty lean in the little countdown thing last night. He always seemed a little plump for 170. If he gases in this fight, pulver is gonna capitalize. This really can go either way tho. I wouldnt bet this fight (or any fight) but you gotta give the upper hand to BJ

Holy Moley BJ Penn is now in 155 that is sweet, i believe 155 suites him better than 170 i think if he wins this fight against Pulver Dana should give Penn a title shot against Sherk/Franca it will be awesome. As i always says Penn is natural in 155 he will dominate that division.

BJ Penn in shape will destroy anyone in that division

Penn was a big threat in the Welter weight division. 155 looks like his natural weight class. He will no doubt beat Pulver, and quite possibly be the next lightweight champ.

i heard some one mention him gassing in the 3rd against hughes, but he actually separted a couple ribs in the midst of the triangle and what not that went on in the 2nd round. thats why he looked so dead in the third. just thought id pass it along

….“BJ has been running five to eight miles a day. He’s in the best shape of his life. More so than when he fought (Georges) St. Pierre and more so than when he fought Hughes.”…

Ugh, I hope he is in better shape because he lost those 2 fights because of cardio (although penn did way more damage to GSP, then he got. Hughes beat the shit out of penn)

B.J. is unreal at BJJ, but I will believe that B.J. is in good shape when I see it.

storhaug, you are wrong about how B.J injured his rib…..

it wasn’t during the triangle attempt at all…it was earlier in the round, when hughes was dropping bomb-elbows and B.J. made 1 of the most amazing excape/reversal I have ever seen, when hughes dropped an elbow and missed, and B.J. squeezed out and got hughes back, thus seperating his rib.

Unreal at the time, but cost him a rib and the fight.

Just watched “bad blood Penn vs. Puler” on UFC demand at UFC.com.

B.J. looks a lot thinner and in great shape, and that is why I am picking Jens Pulver to win the fight..

This is the year of the upsets..gomi/diaz, wanderlei/henderson, cro-cop/napao, sylvia/natural, GSP/serra, and you will be able to add Penn/Pulver to that list this Saturday.

Jens is in B.J.’s head.

Schiro although I couldn’t disagree with you more, I respect you for keeping to your opinion. I already see soooo many who have hated on this fool before:
“Oh he can’t make 155 he is unhealthy there, he is never in shape, BJ is unimpressive, his record sucks, Pulver is no slouch”
And suddenly everyting is turning to:
“I call Penn in the second, Penn is gonna own MMA for years now, he is gonna kill pulver, Penn is a natural 155, he is soooo good”
I’m not accusing anyboyd, or even if I quoted you, im not necesarily saying you switched teams, but i’m saying look at this post and the last 2 Penn oriented posts, they are much different.
Allz I can say Penn haters is thats what I thought. And seriously, sirmixalot said it perfect, Penn really is gonna own these divisions for the next couple years.
IT’S OVER!!!

when i was in the army we ran that much. not bad if you build up to it. my pick is bj 2nd round ref stoppage.

I think they made an error the coach said he has been at 158 the past 3 weeks, he meant 185

The Anomoly,

I doubt that B.J. will fight ever again at 155 unless it is against Pulver again.

B.J. does not want to fight at light-wieght, period. Thats what he said on Bad Blood.

“The only reason I am fighting st 155 is so I can smash Jens Pulver.”

B.J.‘s problem is, that fighting doesn’t feed him.

What I mean by that, is B.J. was born into a family that was well-off and this leads to Penn not having the same desire as many other fighters to train hard to provide for the fam.
 
Most UFC fighters fight to pay the bills, Penn doesn’t.

We shall see if a legacy is important to B.J. and we’ll see how his training goes after this fight with Pulver.

I like B.J., I am sure he would be one of the coolest fighters to hang around because he is so chill, but we’ll see how bad he wants to be the best.

B.J. Penn easily has the talent to be the best fighter in the world, no doubt, question is, does B.J. want it bad enough?

B.J.‘s problem is, that fighting doesn’t feed him.

What I mean by that, is B.J. was born into a family that was well-off and this leads to Penn not having the same desire as many other fighters to train hard to provide for the fam.

Most UFC fighters fight to pay the bills, Penn doesn’t.

We shall see if a legacy is important to B.J. and we’ll see how his training goes after this fight with Pulver.

I like B.J., I am sure he would be one of the coolest fighters to hang around because he is so chill, but we’ll see how bad he wants to be the best.

B.J. Penn easily has the talent to be the best fighter in the world, no doubt, question is, does B.J. want it bad enough?

This is a great comment!!!

B.J.‘s problem is, that fighting doesn’t feed him.
What I mean by that, is B.J. was born into a family that was well-off and this leads to Penn not having the same desire as many other fighters to train hard to provide for the fam.
Most UFC fighters fight to pay the bills, Penn doesn’t.

That’s absurd. Look how many UFC fighters have bachelor’s degrees and even masters and doctorates. Are they fighting because they have no other options? The desire to work to be the best fighter is internal and innate. Some people have it, some don’t. It’s not a matter of needing to fight to feed a family. By your logic fighters like Franklin, Liddell, Hughes and other college-educated fighters would never have been champions.

I said before and I’ll say it again, BJ is going to own MMA for the next two years.

I disagree with this statement 110%. BJ has NEVER owned a single weightclass, let alone all of MMA. What is his recent record = 0-2 in his last two fights, and 1 – 3 in his last four fights since the beginning of 2005. So he has won one fight in the last 3 years, and you say he is the best? If you want to be considered one of the best pound for pound fighter in the world, going on a 2 fight losing streak is totally unacceptable. BJ Penn is on his way out of MMA. I really am hoping the Jens knocks his head off. I am sick of everone hanging from BJ’s nuts as if he had a jungle gym under his jockstrap. He is naturally gifted, but he does not apply himself. He does put on exciting fights, but he ends up on the losing end WAY too often to be considered at the top of MMA. Back in the day, when he was considered the prodigy, most fighters were still only training a couple aspects of MMA. Today’s fighters are all well rounded. He’s no longer the only person that knows ju jitsu. If BJ loses to Jens again, he is simply a soft, lazy, Pillsbury Doughboy look alike, washed up fighter who had nothing more than potential in the sport of MMA.
 
And you say that he will own MMA for 2 years? Saying that he stays at 155lbs, I do not say him being able to beat Thiago Tavarez in about a year and a half. As a matter of fact, if they fought tomorrow, I would like Thiago in the fight and the kid is only 22 years old.

I disagree with this statement 110%. BJ has NEVER owned a single weightclass, let alone all of MMA. What is his recent record = 0-2 in his last two fights, and 1 – 3 in his last four fights since the beginning of 2005. So he has won one fight in the last 3 years, and you say he is the best? If you want to be considered one of the best pound for pound fighter in the world, going on a 2 fight losing streak is totally unacceptable. BJ Penn is on his way out of MMA. I really am hoping the Jens knocks his head off. I am sick of everone hanging from BJ’s nuts as if he had a jungle gym under his jockstrap. He is naturally gifted, but he does not apply himself. He does put on exciting fights, but he ends up on the losing end WAY too often to be considered at the top of MMA. Back in the day, when he was considered the prodigy, most fighters were still only training a couple aspects of MMA. Today’s fighters are all well rounded. He’s no longer the only person that knows ju jitsu. If BJ loses to Jens again, he is simply a soft, lazy, Pillsbury Doughboy look alike, washed up fighter who had nothing more than potential in the sport of MMA.

And you say that he will own MMA for 2 years? Saying that he stays at 155lbs, I do not say him being able to beat Thiago Tavarez in about a year and a half. As a matter of fact, if they fought tomorrow, I would like Thiago in the fight and the kid is only 22 years old.

Wow, a little bitter Mike? I see your logic, but also understand that the St. Pierre fight could’ve gone either way, and also remember that Penn was dominating Hughes until a FREAK ACCIDENT separated his rib midfight. Add to that the fact that he dominated one of the best lightweights in the world in Gomi, and you can see why he’s still regarded as one of the world’s greatest fighters.
While we’re talking about fighters, what the hell has Pulver done in the last 2 yrs besides getting knocked out by Lauzon?

Holy Moley BJ Penn is now in 155 that is sweet, i believe 155 suites him better than 170 i think if he wins this fight against Pulver Dana should give Penn a title shot against Sherk/Franca it will be awesome. As i always says Penn is natural in 155 he will dominate that division.

So you think that this should be a #1 contender fight? Penn is coming off of 2 losses, Pulver is coming off of a loss. Typically you don’t put two fighters on losing streaks into a #1 contender match up.

Wow, a little bitter Mike? I see your logic, but also understand that the St. Pierre fight could’ve gone either way, and also remember that Penn was dominating Hughes until a FREAK ACCIDENT separated his rib midfight. Add to that the fact that he dominated one of the best lightweights in the world in Gomi, and you can see why he’s still regarded as one of the world’s greatest fighters.
While we’re talking about fighters, what the hell has Pulver done in the last 2 yrs besides getting knocked out by Lauzon?

I hear ya man. But BJ fought Gomi toward the beginning of his career. Nick Diaz just destroyed Gomi recently, when Gomi was at the top of his division and held the belt. Of course I understand that GSP and Hughes are at the top of the welterweight divison, but what I’m saying is how can you lose to two of the top 170lbs and be considered the best pound for pound fighter. There is no logic involved in saying he is the best pound for pound fighter.

And what has Pulver done in the last two years, well he has a win in the IFL. HAHAHAHAHAHA – I know, I know, that means absolutely nothing.

And also, I’m not bitter. It’s not like BJ was hitting on my wife or something. I just don’t think that he deserves all the praise he has been getting lately. And the same goes for Nate the not so great Marquardt. I have a good post on Marquardt in the section about the new UFC 73 site being up.

Out of curiousity, I was wondering what people think this fight would turn out. Penn vs Thiago Tavarez toward the beginning of 2009. Bj would be getting older, and Thiago would be 24 then. And if Thiago keeps learning the game at the rate he has been, then look out! But what I want to know is who does everyone see winning this fight if it were to take place. I know we don’t have much to go off of on Thiago becaue that was only the 2nd time I’ve seen him fight. But he is damn impressive!

I hear ya man. But BJ fought Gomi toward the beginning of his career. Nick Diaz just destroyed Gomi recently, when Gomi was at the top of his division and held the belt. Of course I understand that GSP and Hughes are at the top of the welterweight divison, but what I’m saying is how can you lose to two of the top 170lbs and be considered the best pound for pound fighter. There is no logic involved in saying he is the best pound for pound fighter.

And what has Pulver done in the last two years, well he has a win in the IFL.

HAHAHAHAHAHA – I know, I know, that means absolutely nothing.

And also, I’m not bitter. It’s not like BJ was hitting on my wife or something. I just don’t think that he deserves all the praise he has been getting lately. And the same goes for Nate the not so great Marquardt. I have a good post on Marquardt in the section about the new UFC 73 site being up.

Out of curiousity, I was wondering what people think this fight would turn out. Penn vs Thiago Tavarez toward the beginning of 2009. Bj would be getting older, and Thiago would be 24 then. And if Thiago keeps learning the game at the rate he has been, then look out! But what I want to know is who does everyone see winning this fight if it were to take place. I know we don’t have much to go off of on Thiago becaue that was only the 2nd time I’ve seen him fight. But he is damn impressive!

I completely agree. But things went the way they did and he has two losses.

He should be running 5-8 miles a day. Fedor runs that pretty much everyday, (Amazing that he isn’t ripped!). BJ should beat Jens but they’re probably giving tempting odds on him. I’d like to see Karo and BJ sometime in the near future.

Karo and Fitch is the fight to see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In the IMMEDIATE future

Karo is still getting better but yeah Fitch would be interesting. A fit Karo is a mean opponent for anyone at 170. But I’d also like to see Clay Guida against BJ at 155. I was at UFC 72 and I couldn’t believe they gave Griffin the decision. That one was a howler. Everyone would favour BJ. I think it would be interesting to say the least.

Tavarez IS NASTY, I think with a little more experience and working a little more on his stand up, he will be someone to watch in the near future. As for him vs BJ, I think BJ would win just bc he’s is a more complete fighter right now than Tavarez (though it could change soon)

Clay Guida is a cardio machine. That dude did not tire one bit and kept a ferocious pace the whole fight. Imagine if BJ had the title, and Clay was number one contender and the match went to the 5th round. Clay would be fresh and BJ would be trying to come out of his corner wearing an oxygen mask.

Like others I must comment on this so called running schedule. 5-8 miles each day is way too much but depends on his pace and or hr values I can guarantee you that he will injure himself real quick if he is really running that much at a hard pace, unless of course he has walk breaks, and doing it 4 days a week with days off in between with little cardio on those days? He is not known for his cardio so I would worry if he is actually running this much and at a hard pace, I think the comment maybe a little over the top. I did however watch BJ train over a year ago and he does tho train smart as I saw him wearing a HR monitor

Just 4 the record, u heard it here, BJ wins…, @ 16 seconds of the very 1st round by TKO, and soon thereafter 2 hold the LW Championship of the World, “The Prodigy” BJ Penn!!!

So you think that this should be a #1 contender fight? Penn is coming off of 2 losses, Pulver is coming off of a loss. Typically you don’t put two fighters on losing streaks into a #1 contender match up.

But think about BJ’s last two opponents both are 170 pounder legends if he gets back down to 155 which best suites him n beside he is in rank 2 or 3 in the world in 155 check ufcmania;s fighter ranking he would definitely get a title shot.

BJ would easily be champ if he stays at this weight.

But think about BJ’s last two opponents both are 170 pounder legends if he gets back down to 155 which best suites him n beside he is in rank 2 or 3 in the world in 155 check ufcmania;s fighter ranking he would definitely get a title shot.

Like others I must comment on this so called running schedule. 5-8 miles each day is way too much but depends on his pace and or hr values I can guarantee you that he will injure himself real quick if he is really running that much at a hard pace, unless of course he has walk breaks, and doing it 4 days a week with days off in between with little cardio on those days? He is not known for his cardio so I would worry if he is actually running this much and at a hard pace, I think the comment maybe a little over the top. I did however watch BJ train over a year ago and he does tho train smart as I saw him wearing a HR monitor

5-8 miles a day is nothing for a club level runner. Granted BJ isn’t a long distance runner. I’ve only ever injured myself sprinting during football (soccer) matches. Smart long distance running you nearly never get injured. Blistered feet yes, aches and pains yes. I have seen someone tear an achilles at a snail’s pace but that’s a freak occurence. Slow down once the heart rate goes above 140 bpm. I’ve seen my heart rate at 200 bpm. That’s fast hard running to failure, just wanted to keel over and die. Apparently F1 drivers heart rates peak at 220 just before lights out at the beginning of a race. Amazing considering they’re doing sweet FA.

Back to the point, 5-8 miles smart running on grass keeping the heart rate below 140 bpm and in decent weather ( not freezing cold or pissing rain) every day I reckon is safe enough. I’d put the emphasis on smart there though, some people kill themselves running one day and then don’t run for a week, a month or hell ever again. If he has built up to this then it’s probably a piece of piss.

Clay Guida is a cardio machine. That dude did not tire one bit and kept a ferocious pace the whole fight. Imagine if BJ had the title, and Clay was number one contender and the match went to the 5th round. Clay would be fresh and BJ would be trying to come out of his corner wearing an oxygen mask.

Yeah could you imagine that. Clay would whip him if it went the distance. BJ would have to look to finish in Rd 1 or 2, otherwise Clay wins a 5 rounder I feel. I really think Clay is a terrific fighter. Surely his next fight is a rematch with Tyson Griffin. After that he can wait for BJ to beat Sherk/Franca. He’d probably have to win another one after the rematch though.

5-8 miles a day is nothing for a club level runner. Granted BJ isn’t a long distance runner. I’ve only ever injured myself sprinting during football (soccer) matches. Smart long distance running you nearly never get injured. Blistered feet yes, aches and pains yes. I have seen someone tear an achilles at a snail’s pace but that’s a freak occurence. Slow down once the heart rate goes above 140 bpm. I’ve seen my heart rate at 200 bpm. That’s fast hard running to failure, just wanted to keel over and die. Apparently F1 drivers heart rates peak at 220 just before lights out at the beginning of a race. Amazing considering they’re doing sweet FA.

Back to the point, 5-8 miles smart running on grass keeping the heart rate below 140 bpm and in decent weather ( not freezing cold or pissing rain) every day I reckon is safe enough. I’d put the emphasis on smart there though, some people kill themselves running one day and then don’t run for a week, a month or hell ever again. If he has built up to this then it’s probably a piece of piss.

I agree with you on this. 5-8 is nothing if you are close to your ideal weight, and you ease into it to allow all that connective tissue to strengthen.

Is that a UFO behind BJ? Odd.

Anyway, BJ is a monster, question is, can the Prodigy defeat the Muscle Shark?

The Anomoly,

I doubt that B.J. will fight ever again at 155 unless it is against Pulver again.

B.J. does not want to fight at light-wieght, period. Thats what he said on Bad Blood.

“The only reason I am fighting st 155 is so I can smash Jens Pulver.”

Dude. I knew this before Penn was even born.

I completely agree. But things went the way they did and he has two losses.

Your right, things went the way they went, sucks for BJ and his fans, cuz in reality he now has to work his way up, i’ll concede that, he does not deserve an imediate title shot. He needs to work his way from where he is which is pretty far down.
However having said that, I also recognize that what happened (losses)happened do to freak accident and lazyness, and that he simultaneously proved that he has the ability to best anybody out there in welter or below. That is why he is getting praise, and that is why people get excited over the idea of Penn coming back hungry and ready to go.

BJ’s fan sure love to make excuses for him, He was hurt, he is lazy, etc. Like being lazy is a valid excuse. If you are lazy you probably lack heart. Not saying I think it will happen since I’ve never seen Pulver fight, but I hope he kicks BJ’s ass so I can read all the new and inventive excuses why the best fighter in the world lost yet again. ;)

BJ’s fan sure love to make excuses for him, He was hurt, he is lazy, etc. Like being lazy is a valid excuse. If you are lazy you probably lack heart. Not saying I think it will happen since I’ve never seen Pulver fight, but I hope he kicks BJ’s ass so I can read all the new and inventive excuses why the best fighter in the world lost yet again. ;)

Wrong.

bj you are fucking crazy tell your friends dude you are the man dont let no one tell you diffrent half speed