I must say, that within two days, it will be Ken Shamrock vs. Michael Bisping again.

Dana needs to come out and let us know! its killing me.

damn i was kinda excited for seein him get his ass kicked but i hope he still fights at 75 maybe hell fight royce gracie so it will be 2 washed up fighters insted of one

Man doesn’t anyone vet these ‘sources’? Stick with Hamill until there is official word. Maybe Shamrock is willing to take the fight on short notice if Hamill is unable to go.

Next we are going to hear “Tank Abbott vs. Kimo UFC 80”

damn i was kinda excited for seein him get his ass kicked but i hope he still fights at 75 maybe hell fight royce gracie so it will be 2 washed up fighters insted of one

Can Royce even fight after the Steroid controvesy?

Man doesn’t anyone vet these ‘sources’? Stick with Hamill until there is official word. Maybe Shamrock is willing to take the fight on short notice if Hamill is unable to go.

Loretta Hunt is a very reliable source. So is Meltzer. Just the way things work, and the reason we are just going to hold off now until the UFC or one of the fighters confirms it.

That’s how rumors work sometimes unfortunately.

Can Royce even fight after the Steroid controvesy?

It was sarcasm. Gracie is supposed to file an appeal with the CSAC. If it doesn’t get turned over, he will likely face a suspension and fine.

i like the hamill fight a lot more, i actually think hamill has a shot to win where as i wouldn’t have given shamrock too much of a chance…the more boring the fight, the better hamill’s chances…this fight will definitely test bisping’s strength…

Loretta Hunt is a very reliable source. So is Meltzer. Just the way things work, and the reason we are just going to hold off now until the UFC or one of the fighters confirms it.

That’s how rumors work sometimes unfortunately.

oh I know it was Sarcasm, but yet with UFC 75 happening in London, could Royce actually fight if he wanted to. Because didn’t Vitor Belfort get in trouble for the same thing, and went over the another country and fought?

Plus, I really want to see Kimo vs. Tank Abbott at UFC 80.

you idiot royce is suspended for a year he cant fight unless it is a backyard brawl.. get your shit together come on

you idiot royce is suspended for a year he cant fight unless it is a backyard brawl.. get your shit together come on

Thanks for the eloquence, Ricky. But the 12-month suspension and $2,500 fine mean nothing if he appeals and it gets overturned. That was my point.

you idiot royce is suspended for a year he cant fight unless it is a backyard brawl.. get your shit together come on

It was just a question actually not need to get hostile, if you get banned by a committee in the United States, can you go outside of the United States and fight? Because didn’t Vitor do that a couple of years ago?

“We’ve got nothing against him here at UFCmania”

God forbid UFCMania should have anything against anybody. Dude, have you changed your tampon today?

This guy can barely walk, he will NEVER pass an exam in California, and soon NV and NJ are gonna be forced to except higher levels of fitness for MMA athletes. Thank God Cali is truly in love with MMA. Otherwise the shills on the NSAC would do whatever the UFC said. Some of us already knew this…

Didnt I already post on here that Shamrock v Bisping was a match that wasnt gonna happen? But who am I…just a nobody.

Sorry if that seems harsh. I just got back from Ocala. Things arent well in MoreThanUFC world.

Finally! Now I know which site is poaching and which is the poached.

I noticed this story credited to Meltzer at UFCJunkie welllllll ahead of UFCmania. Like light-years ahead of you.

Do you guys think it’s fair-game that you read UFCjunkie’s posts and then re-purpose for your own gain?

You owe your readers better. Prove me wrong

“We’ve got nothing against him here at UFCmania”

God forbid UFCMania should have anything against anybody. Dude, have you changed your tampon today?

This guy can barely walk, he will NEVER pass an exam in California, and soon NV and NJ are gonna be forced to except higher levels of fitness for MMA athletes. Thank God Cali is truly in love with MMA. Otherwise the shills on the NSAC would do whatever the UFC said. Some of us already knew this…

Didnt I already post on here that Shamrock v Bisping was a match that wasnt gonna happen? But who am I…just a nobody.

Sorry if that seems harsh. I just got back from Ocala. Things arent well in MoreThanUFC world.

You make a really good point there MTU, if Frank Mir can not get a license, how could Ken Shamrock? Shamrock, might be old, but so is Randy Couture, I could see Shamrock coming back to the UFC and actually being some-what of a stepping stone for people like a Michael Bisping, Matt Hamill, Jason Lambert or even a Stephan Bonnar.

That would be a nice match-up actually Matt Hamill vs. Ken Shamrock a Punishment Athletic fight vs. a Lion’s Den Fighter. Hamill likes to Wrestle and Shamrock is a submission wizard. Would be intriguing, and it would make more sense to have a Shamrock vs. Hamill, even though Ken did coach against Bisping, I think Hamill vs. Shamrock would be a better more interesting fight.

Finally! Now I know which site is poaching and which is the poached.

I noticed this story credited to Meltzer at UFCJunkie welllllll ahead of UFCmania. Like light-years ahead of you.

Do you guys think it’s fair-game that you read UFCjunkie’s posts and then re-purpose for your own gain?

You owe your readers better. Prove me wrong

go post on ufcjunkie then dude, whats the point of coming on here just to say that? jackass…

if the fight is in england do the fighters still have to be cleared by csac or nsac? thats a serious question, i really don’t know…

go post on ufcjunkie then dude, whats the point of coming on here just to say that? jackass…

Chill on the language Spiderman. I read all the MMA sites and for once I want to be able to go to a site that has original, intuitive, informative information.

Not one will stick out for all, and that is why we all go to numerous sites.

It just gets depressing to see the potential for mania but all we fans are getting is no originality.

Now without using your keyboard warrior language in reply, is this not a fair request of our MMA sites?

news is news dude, it was gonna get put up anyway was it not? do you really think ufcmania went to ufcjunkie and stole their news?? thats crazy man…and the jackass comment was justified by your disrespectful attitude, it makes no sense to come on here and post something like that, if you feel like this site is inferior to another then i’m sure nobody that visits this site will miss you when you choose the other site instead…

its not a ufcjunie exclusive story man, its for all mma fans, and some people, like me, choose to come here to get their news instead of ufcjunkie or wherever else…so what if junkie had it up first, it was inevitable that mania would have it up at some point too…

completely off topic does anyone have the link for the triple decker pecker recker clip?

Hamill has abetter chance than Shamrock…thats for sure. I just think Bisping will dominate the stand up and should be enough to gas out Hamill for the “W”

That rumor about Shamrock ended yesterday with an email confirmation from Matt Hamill with a contract to fight Bisping in London on Sept 8.

http://kokonutpundits.blogspot.com/2007/06/bisping-vs-hamillthe-fight-is-on.html

Finally! Now I know which site is poaching and which is the poached.

I noticed this story credited to Meltzer at UFCJunkie welllllll ahead of UFCmania. Like light-years ahead of you.

Do you guys think it’s fair-game that you read UFCjunkie’s posts and then re-purpose for your own gain?

You owe your readers better. Prove me wrong

Ha, no thanks Sherlock. Do yourself a favor and try and provide a bigger sample. And light years? His time stamp says 9:08 pm ET. Mine says 8:36:46 pm. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm …

For the record, I was tipped to the story first over at FiveOuncesofPain. I had no idea Junkie even wrote it.

Having said that, being two UFC sites, our news tends to overlap. But if you’re a real student of either site then you’ll soon realize the stark differences.

Get a life.

You make a really good point there MTU, if Frank Mir can not get a license, how could Ken Shamrock? Shamrock, might be old, but so is Randy Couture, I could see Shamrock coming back to the UFC and actually being some-what of a stepping stone for people like a Michael Bisping, Matt Hamill, Jason Lambert or even a Stephan Bonnar.

That would be a nice match-up actually Matt Hamill vs. Ken Shamrock a Punishment Athletic fight vs. a Lion’s Den Fighter. Hamill likes to Wrestle and Shamrock is a submission wizard. Would be intriguing, and it would make more sense to have a Shamrock vs. Hamill, even though Ken did coach against Bisping, I think Hamill vs. Shamrock would be a better more interesting fight.

I really dont care if Shamrock fights. Let him. It’s his health, legacy and reputation. He just shouldnt be matched up against talent like Bisping. That was my point … back off MTU ;).

go post on ufcjunkie then dude, whats the point of coming on here just to say that? jackass…

God what is wrong with him spida disrespecting Mania like that who do u think he is telling us that Mania steals articles even though he has no prove over it. What a loser.
Go back to Junkie where everyone is a duche over there.

I dont go to Junkie anymore i stick with this site. I love this site, i go here everyday n read articles about MMA. Dam who cares about Shawn the Fish Salmon anyways. Please if u people dont like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everyone knows UFCmania is elite. Anyways, I’m tellin yall Shamrock needs to go to a different weight class, he would definitely make noise in middleweight or heavyweight.

I dont go to Junkie anymore i stick with this site. I love this site, i go here everyday n read articles about MMA. Dam who cares about Shawn the Fish Salmon anyways. Please if u people dont like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AMEN!

I don’t know man, I would much rather watch Bisbing fight Hamill than Shamrock…

i wouldnt mind seeing royce vs. shamrock.

Aww, how cute, everyone sniffing up the tail of UFCmania. And with good reason.

Didnt I already post on here that Shamrock v Bisping was a match that wasnt gonna happen? But who am I…just a nobody.

Sorry if that seems harsh. I just got back from Ocala. Things arent well in MoreThanUFC world.

It’s chill MoreThandUFC, we understand.

its not a ufcjunie exclusive story man, its for all mma fans, and some people, like me, choose to come here to get their news instead of ufcjunkie or wherever else…so what if junkie had it up first, it was inevitable that mania would have it up at some point too…

I’ve been coming here exclusively so I don’t mind if this site is reprinting rumors from other sites as long as the reprinted material is properly attributed. I think that has been mostly the case.

God what is wrong with him spida disrespecting Mania like that who do u think he is telling us that Mania steals articles even though he has no prove over it. What a loser.
Go back to Junkie where everyone is a duche over there.

i like the hamill fight a lot more, i actually think hamill has a shot to win where as i wouldn’t have given shamrock too much of a chance…the more boring the fight, the better hamill’s chances…this fight will definitely test bisping’s strength…

with the fight being in London there is no way on earth that they are gonna let Hammill just pin Bisping for 3 rounds,can you see Hammill efectivly GnPing Bisping coz I know I cant.Hammill is going to have to be real carefull in Bispings gaurd not to get submited and standing up he is going to get destroyed.
If you watch Bispings fight with Eric Schafer you will notice that he only got taken down from throwing kicks and never from the clinch.
Hammill might be arogant and try to stand with Bisping but whatever he does I cant see him winning this fight.
Standing up Hammill gets KOed
on the ground he gets submited
or he repeatedly takes Bisping down and is unable to do any damage on the ground so the ref keeps standing them up and Hammill gets beat up for three rounds.
Bisping is gonna be fired up in London and dont expect to see the ref let Hammill win by a boring desicion.

It’s chill MoreThandUFC, we understand.

I said I thought it was BS aswell,I also said it was BS when people were saying Bisping was scared of Hammill,I dont think you shared the same opinion on that one now did you.

You mean french duche = shower or english duche = ass washer?
:)

go post on ufcjunkie then dude, whats the point of coming on here just to say that? jackass…
Chill on the language Spiderman.

If you are sincerely offended by hearing the ultimate curse word, “jackass”, then you should go visit the Disney Forum. FYI jackass isnt even a swear word. During the post fight interviews at the PPV’s do you hit the mute button because God forbid if someone actally said ‘Fuck’, ‘Shit’, or “kick ass” you would probably start cyring.

Go buy some tissues and tampons and ‘F’ off donkey; aka ‘jackass’

I was slightly ofended when I read comments on other posts like “bum f**k England” and “I hope his Brit b*t*h a*s fails”.
Prejudice like that has no place on this site and I am sure that Mania will not alow it anymore,…right?

So if Royce Gracie fought Ken Shamrock could we use the old WWE monkier and dub it UFC 80: Age in the Cage. : )

Blimmany!! Spasam, Exoclumsy…… Think of all them words

oops moniker, sorry dyslexic

I thought Bisping hurt Hamill during the show. He seemed to be a better fighter then. I think Hamill has improved a lot since and will give Bisping a tough battle. I’d have to go with The Count because I don’t see him losing in front of his peeps.

thank god it’s Hamill, I mean it’s not a weight-class defining match or anything but at least there is a storyline there. Hamill wants to prove he was the TUF3 champ and Bisping wants to prove that Hamill being injured on TUF3 saved Hamill from a serious beating in the finals.

it should be at least worth watching now.

My prediction for this fight…

Hammill takes Bisping down and while in his gaurd he trys to pass in a clumsy way and Bisping grabs his arm and twists it up over Hammills back and Hammill refuses to tap (remember on TUF3 when Bisping almost broke Hammills arm practising escapes)and Hammills arm just snaps horibly and Herb Dean runs in to stop it and pukes up all over Hammills head.

Hammill is then laying on the floor with his arm in a un-natural position with a steaming load of Chickan and Rice all over his head.

Hammill fans better hope he is not too arogant to tap like he was on the show.

Hammill will be crushed like a bug. HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

thank god it’s Hamill, I mean it’s not a weight-class defining match or anything but at least there is a storyline there. Hamill wants to prove he was the TUF3 champ and Bisping wants to prove that Hamill being injured on TUF3 saved Hamill from a serious beating in the finals.

it should be at least worth watching now.

Even if Hammill was to win this fight he still would not be considered the TUF3 winner.
On that show all the fights are close together so part of your gameplan has to be to come through each fight with minimal damage so your fit for your next one,Hammill barely made it through his first fight alive and even though he won he was rushed to hospitle and told he was too bashed up to fight again and therefore lost TUF3.
Bisping on the other hand won each of his fights by KO and I dont remember seeing him in any type of trouble in any fight and he didnt have so much as a scratch on him.
He won that competition more convinsingly then anyone of the other TUF winners and no one can realy argue that.
I guess alot of you are prejudice and think an American should of won the American show and thats ok I understand why you would think like that but I guess us Brits are just TUFer then you arnt we.
HA HA AAAAAAAAAAAAAH haaaa heeeee

He won that competition more convinsingly then anyone of the other TUF winners and no one can realy argue that.

Both him AND Diego Sanchez were the most dominant winners in the history of the series. Yeah, Diego had to win by decision against Koscheck, but he had to have at least 1 more fight than Bisping had to. I do agree that Bisping was the most dominant. I also think he did face pretty weak competition too.

So if Royce Gracie fought Ken Shamrock could we use the old WWE monkier and dub it UFC 80: Age in the Cage. : )

HA HA good one I like it

My prediction for this fight…

Hammill takes Bisping down and while in his gaurd he trys to pass in a clumsy way and Bisping grabs his arm and twists it up over Hammills back and Hammill refuses to tap (remember on TUF3 when Bisping almost broke Hammills arm practising escapes)and Hammills arm just snaps horibly and Herb Dean runs in to stop it and pukes up all over Hammills head.

Hammill is then laying on the floor with his arm in a un-natural position with a steaming load of Chickan and Rice all over his head.

Hammill fans better hope he is not too arogant to tap like he was on the show.

Hammill will be crushed like a bug. HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Yeah definitely. Bisping will maim him. It’ll be one of those moments where in the slo mo you’ll see Herb go ‘oh $h!t’like he did when Crocop’s leg buckled. Hamill will be pass out in shock and Herb will yank his arm back into some normal looking position. Or maybe Bisping will just clock him one early on and it’ll be lights out. No amount of Danny Abaddi’s finest peanut butter and jelly sandwiches will help a sore head after that one. Went to UFC 72 and just booked tickets for 75. Can’t wait already. Unfortunately this one is even further from home though. C’mon Crocop.

Since we are all talking about TUF 3, the DVD of TUF 3 (the whole season) is being released on July 10th.
Hamill is a better fighter than he was on the show, but Bisping is good.
It will be a really good fight.

So if Royce Gracie fought Ken Shamrock could we use the old WWE monkier and dub it UFC 80: Age in the Cage. : )

ha, good one

My prediction for this fight…

Hamill wears Bisping down and gets a full mount in the 3rd round. Just pounding away on Bisping. Blood everywhere… Bisping is completely out. Herb Dean is standing behind Hamill yelling “Okay stop! That’s enough already I said stop!!”. Hamill is wearing down but he keeps punching as he was taught. Pieces of Bispings skull protrude.

After Bispings remains are shoveled up and carried out of the Octagon, the subservient British fans will all stand up and sing “GOD BLESS AMERICAAARRRRRR”. Then Tony Blair will appear on national television and issue an apology for England burning down the White House during the War of 1812 and officially acknowledge the United Kingdom’s admission to the United States as the 51st state.
  Oh and he will vow to correct British English and bring it in line with the American standard.

its not a ufcjunie exclusive story man, its for all mma fans, and some people, like me, choose to come here to get their news instead of ufcjunkie or wherever else…so what if junkie had it up first, it was inevitable that mania would have it up at some point too…

great point spida no matter what site you go to read some things about they are there for the fans an if you want to really bash a site bash ufc.com cause ever since mania an junkie i haven’t even been on ufc just to see what new things they have an they always seems like there a week behind mania and junkie.my point is eventually you will get all the right info you need so stop complaining just read and blog like everone else thank you.once again right on point spida

ha, good one

Since we are all talking about TUF 3, the DVD of TUF 3 (the whole season) is being released on July 10th.
Hamill is a better fighter than he was on the show, but Bisping is good.
It will be a really good fight.

WHERE THE HELL IS tuf 2?

After Bispings remains are shoveled up and carried out of the Octagon, the subservient British fans will all stand up and sing “GOD BLESS AMERICAAARRRRRR”. Then Tony Blair will appear on national television and issue an apology for England burning down the White House during the War of 1812 and officially acknowledge the United Kingdom’s admission to the United States as the 51st state.
Oh and he will vow to correct British English and bring it in line with the American standard.

LOL U da man mamasb*tch… LOL

WHERE THE HELL IS tuf 2?

Hamill wears Bisping down and gets a full mount in the 3rd round. Just pounding away on Bisping. Blood everywhere… Bisping is completely out. Herb Dean is standing behind Hamill yelling “Okay stop! That’s enough already I said stop!!”. Hamill is wearing down but he keeps punching as he was taught. Pieces of Bispings skull protrude.

Don’t see it…The guy showed horrendous cardio on TUF3. He got tired just holding his hands up. He’ll be intimidated over in London. I’m Irish so I’m up for Bisping on this one, plus I just think he’s the better fighter. Think about, every fight starts standing up. Bisping is clearly the better striker, light heavweight kickboxing champion of Britain twice I think. Had a couple of fights in K1. Hamill simply comes straight forward with a terrible guard, he can’t work angles and his head never moves. Advantage in grappling to Hamill clearly. But if Hamill gets Bisping to the ground, Bisping has by far the superior jiu jitsu, he started when he was 8 years old. Then again I could be wrong and Hamill could just take him down and g’n’p. But I just don’t see it that way. No doubt Bisping is the overwhelming favourite. I’d love to see Bisping vs. Griffin. That would be exciting.

C’mon England.

HA HA good one I like it

C’mon England.

Im going to this one too and lucky for me I live in Essex and the 02 arena is probably no more then a half hour drive away.I only found out this morning that the 02 arena is the London Dome,they showed it on the news this morning and the 20,000 seat venue looks amazing before its even done out UFC style.I think that this is going to be a UFC to remember and I have heard rumors that Chuck vs Wandy could be there aswell.Just having this event in the dome is gonna bring media interest to the UFC,everything that happens there is on the news and with its history this is the best venue to have UFC to sell it to the britsh.I cant f**kin wait!

Don’t see it…The guy showed horrendous cardio on TUF3. He got tired just holding his hands up. He’ll be intimidated over in London. I’m Irish so I’m up for Bisping on this one,

Thanks for the eloquence, Ricky. But the 12-month suspension and $2,500 fine mean nothing if he appeals and it gets overturned. That was my point.

Mania, your witty rejoinders are what make this site succesful (no sarcasm). I’m nominating you as a 2007 Hall of Fame inductee.

See http://mmamania.com/2007/06/19/2007-masters-do-you-wanna-be-a-fing-hall-of-famer/

There is no way that Hamill can wear Bisping down his conditioning is among the best in the business. The fight would not get out of the first round though Bisping KO.

Did nobody else notice the massive holes in Hamil’s game? Sure he’s improving but the styles don’t match up well for Hamil. I’m talking about his tendancy to let his hands drop, often at the most dangerous possible moments. Bisping’s talent as a kickboxer is undeniable and I think that spells trouble.

Just a quick note on all the fuss being made about Bisping being British. I think the UFC has overestimated how much the fans care. I mean sure, the British are patritic and are going to support someone from their hometown but just being from the same country doesn’t mean they’re the automatic favorite. Extreme nationalism is more an American thing. I don’t mean any offense, I just think that over here nationalism conjours up images of football hooligans and thugs with ‘Made In Britain’ tattooed on their foreheads. It’s not true for everyone but in my experience, in Britain, unquestionable allegience to the dirt beneath your feet is just seen as a bit lame, illogical and politically dangerous.

Apologies to any patriotic Brits out there. I’d be interested to hear your rebuttal.

MMA-Hole

ok, Proud and patriotic English guy in the room. MMA over here is HUUUUUUUGE now, with no bigger star than michael bisping. Not all english fans have been a part of MMA since the beginning, and only joined this sport after the airing of TUF These type of fans only know Michael Bisping. but whether they got into UFC just after TUF or have been in the sport for years, Bisping is the only face we see every day on the tv and on billboards. Michael Bisping is a massive star and will be for some time. i attended UFC 70 and have already purchased my ticket for 75. By the way, i am working my way through the british mma ranks and im 6-1, so ENgland haters ya better watch out cos im comin

ok, Proud and patriotic English guy in the room. MMA over here is HUUUUUUUGE now, with no bigger star than michael bisping. Not all english fans have been a part of MMA since the beginning, and only joined this sport after the airing of TUF These type of fans only know Michael Bisping. but whether they got into UFC just after TUF or have been in the sport for years, Bisping is the only face we see every day on the tv and on billboards. Michael Bisping is a massive star and will be for some time. i attended UFC 70 and have already purchased my ticket for 75.

By the way, i am working my way through the british mma ranks and im 6-1, so ENgland haters ya better watch out cos im comin

Good 4 you…

A lot of Americans don’t realize cities in England have areas that are just as rough US cities. You guys (Brits) don’t have as many firearms as we do so you have to get it done more with your fists and jackboots.

ok, Proud and patriotic English guy in the room. MMA over here is HUUUUUUUGE now, with no bigger star than michael bisping. Not all english fans have been a part of MMA since the beginning, and only joined this sport after the airing of TUF These type of fans only know Michael Bisping. but whether they got into UFC just after TUF or have been in the sport for years, Bisping is the only face we see every day on the tv and on billboards. Michael Bisping is a massive star and will be for some time. i attended UFC 70 and have already purchased my ticket for 75.

By the way, i am working my way through the british mma ranks and im 6-1, so ENgland haters ya better watch out cos im comin

 
The first fighter I liked was and is Chuck Liddell

Chuck vs Wandy is definitly not there now but its still proper brill

thats lame they cheated for bisping…….matt hamil won the fight easy and they give it to bisping just for that bisping should face shogun