UFC Quick Quotes: Tito says no, Forrest says yes

“Big Sissy”, eh? Always great to see a president of a sports organization/promotion calling his fighters names. Definetly a wise move to prove all those people wrong, who claim that the UFC and MMA is a sport for the snobbish intellectual bourgeoisie and conservative elites. Duh.

Tito already beat Forest. He needs to move on to other better fighters aka Rashad Evans.

i rather see rashad evans fight tito anyways.

Tito already beat Forest. He needs to move on to other better fighters aka Rashad Evans.

Exactly, Tito is a smart business man he knew that not alot of people were going to buy the UFC 72 card at all and if he did go over there he really would not have got exposure. Now he is in the United States and single handedly on the best card UFC has produced since I dunno UFC 68?
Tito Ortiz has already beat Forrest, yes it was very controversial, and even though I am a HUGE Tito fan, Forrest should have one, but why go back to Forrest?

Tito might as well just be himself because no matter what the scenario, people are going to talk trash about him regardless.

Bishman’s right, Tito already beat Forrest and not to say that Forrest doesn’t deserve a rematch somewhere down the line, but ultimately, Forrest did get knocked out by Jardine in his last fight prior to Ramirez and Jardine is no Chuck Liddell (who gave Tito his previously loss). I think Forrest needs at least one or two more wins before rematch negotiations are even worth beginning.

I see nothing wrong with Tito opting to take a fight with an undefeated fighter that the UFC has begun to establish as a rising star. I do believe that the best of Tito Ortiz is still to come, and I accredit a great deal of that to Tito’s desire to beat Chuck. Yes, perhaps he didn’t win their rematch but I think that the improvements that Tito has made in his training and overall game are going to come out full force in a complete domination of Rashad Evans at UFC 73.

The timing couldn’t be better for Tito to implement the improvements of his overall game, especially taking into account the influx of talented Pride LHW’s that have recently joined the UFC.

Best of luck Tito!

“Big Sissy”, eh? Always great to see a president of a sports organization/promotion calling his fighters names. Definetly a wise move to prove all those people wrong, who claim that the UFC and MMA is a sport for the snobbish intellectual bourgeoisie and conservative elites. Duh.

LOL
I suppose Tito is a smart businessman. Though I’m not so sure how smart it is in the entertainment business to continue to do things that wittle away at your fan base. Eventually not enough people will want to see him fight…except maybe to see him get his head beat in. Which, now that I think about it, is still good for the UFC. cha-ching

Tito is smart but the way his career is going lately who knows what’s going on…ppl think that Griffen did win that first fight so maybe Tito just didn’t wana fight him cuz he’s a striker as well and Rashad is an easier fight since Rashad’s stand up isnt as good as whatever Tito has as boxing skills…Tito will win in a decision i think just ground n pound his way..

Tito was afraid, simple as that. He knows that he had trouble with Griffen last time (some thought Griffen won). He sees how much Griffen is improving and realizes he would probably lose for sure next time. Dana is right, the guy is not a fighter.

I do think Tito made the right choice about not rematching Forrest. At least not right away. Rashad Evans would definitely be the better fight for him. As for Dana White, I think he’s still p-oed about that boxing match up, and will forever see Tito as a “Sissy”.

Exactly, Tito is a smart business man he knew that not alot of people were going to buy the UFC 72 card at all and if he did go over there he really would not have got exposure. Now he is in the United States and single handedly on the best card UFC has produced since I dunno UFC 68?
Tito Ortiz has already beat Forrest, yes it was very controversial, and even though I am a HUGE Tito fan, Forrest should have one, but why go back to Forrest?

Tito doesnt want any part of a rematch with Forrest, because he knows Forrest is a passionate fighter that could take down Tito…

tito said thay tryed to give him a easy fight and he said no he wanted a contender and thay said how bout rashad he said yea

have yall seen tha UFC 73 site http://73.ufc.com/

Tito, man I really use to respect him….

Tito already beat Forest. He needs to move on to other better fighters aka Rashad Evans.

Exactly. Where the hell is the hype of a fight between those two? Forrest fell out of the hunt, even if just momentarily, and Ortiz has shown that he can’t beat who was the top dog.

However, an up-and-comer like Rashad Evans coming in and beating the former champ is a great set up. Plus, we finally get to see Evans against a top 5 opponent.

I would rather see Rashaad tito anyway

Tito was afraid, simple as that. He knows that he had trouble with Griffen last time (some thought Griffen won). He sees how much Griffen is improving and realizes he would probably lose for sure next time. Dana is right, the guy is not a fighter.

Not the most informed comment I’ve read on here. Tito was/is EAGER to fight Chuck, Rashad, and Shogun….but he’s afraid of Griffin? BWHAAAA HAAAHAAAAA HAAAAA HAAAAAAA. Griffin has improved? How exactly? Better takedowns? Wicked subs? More accurate striking? I don’t see any improvement at all.

People need to face the fact that Forrest Griffin is a “B” level fighter. There is NO series of matchups that is going to magically launch Forrest to the championship. Forrest fought the guy that he deserved to fight at UFC 72. He’s a good fighter with tons of heart, and that’s it.

I’m not saying he’s the best fighter or even anywhere near the top, but Forrest definately has improved his striking in my opinion. He’s a much more technical striker now than he used to be. Which isn’t really saying all that much given that he used to just throw wild punches. But still, there’s definately some improvement.

Also, although i also think Forrest won their last fight, I think Tito could take him. Tito’s leg was stuffed last time and you could tell that it was stuffing him up. Forrest kept stopping his takedowns because Tito couldn’t put anything into them. That’s my opinion, anyway.

Not the most informed comment I’ve read on here. Tito was/is EAGER to fight Chuck, Rashad, and Shogun….but he’s afraid of Griffin? BWHAAAA HAAAHAAAAA HAAAAA HAAAAAAA. Griffin has improved? How exactly? Better takedowns? Wicked subs? More accurate striking? I don’t see any improvement at all.

People need to face the fact that Forrest Griffin is a “B” level fighter. There is NO series of matchups that is going to magically launch Forrest to the championship. Forrest fought the guy that he deserved to fight at UFC 72. He’s a good fighter with tons of heart, and that’s it.

“BWHAAHAH HAHAHAHAHHAAA”

What are you, 12 years old? Grow up before posting next time. If Griffen is “B” level, than that makes Tito the same thing since most thought Forrest won that fight.

you can’t say he’s scared because its not like he’s turning down forrest to fight some bum, he’s fighting rashad evans who is pretty damn good too, and he already beat forrest, and sure some people may think tito lost that fight so a rematch shouldn’t be out of the question, but in ireland made no sense for tito…

dana white is just trying to put another one of his mistakes(a pretty weak card) on tito…when has he ever said something like that about another fighter?

Tito takes a lot of shit for doing things other fighters do as well.

Why would he be smart to fight someone who just lost to Keith Jardine as opposed to fighting someone who is in the top 5 for a title shot?

Dana white is a douche.
UFC 72 was a very wear card .
Tito’s a great fighter. but he is up and down
There really was no point for him to fighr Forrest again.
He’s moving forward (or trying to).

tito is an arrogant douchebag who runs his mouth too much. and yes forrest beat him the first time. i cannot see how anyone could be a fan of tito ortiz. there is really nothing else to say

after tito loses this fight maybe he will finally crawl in a hole somewhere and die. then the rest of us will finally be free of his BS.

Smart Business man? Dude wrote in his contract that he wanted to fight Dana then bailed out claiming $$ issues….
Tito makes $$ no matter who he fights, Plus the flip flopping bitch already said he didnt want to fight Rampage, even though Jackson said he would fight Tito.

Tito doesnt want any part of a rematch with Forrest, because he knows Forrest is a passionate fighter that could take down Tito…

Forrest didnt look too passionate against hector. He could have easily finished that fight in any round, but was affraid of losing. Tito vs. Forrest rematch doesnt make sense so soon, especially when both fighters are comin of loses. Maybe when Tito beats Rashad then the rematch males sense. I think Dana is still eating bitter bisquits about that boxing match, why else would call out Tito like that. F’n guy needs to grow up!

Dana is a jerk….

Come on. I’m for Ireland and when UFC 72 was announced I couldnt believe it. I’m from the south of Ireland and myself and my mates were all going to drive up. We just couldn’t wait but then when we saw the card we were so disappointed. Anyhow we didn’t bother going. Now if Tito was on the card we would have, all it needed was a big name and Dana knew that. The card was disappointing on paper. (Griffin & Guida fight best I’ve seen in a long time, technically anyway) Anyhow Tito knew what Dana was up to, Tito has nothing to prove, he beat Forrest and he wasn’t going to be used to buy more ppv for dana.

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I suppose Tito is a smart businessman. Though I’m not so sure how smart it is in the entertainment business to continue to do things that wittle away at your fan base. Eventually not enough people will want to see him fight…except maybe to see him get his head beat in. Which, now that I think about it, is still good for the UFC. cha-ching

what is he doing that is whittling away at his fan base? forrest had the opportunity to prove himself and failed. it’s time to move on and if forrest can catch up to Tito again, then maybe then will there be a rematch.

Good move by Tito. He is a higher caliber fighter than Forrest, and should be fighter opponents as such, like Rashad. It’s a much better fight. Tito would smash Forrest like he did the first time before he got tired in round 2 and 3. Remember round 1? That’s how it would go.
Good descision, much better fight.

Hey Dana White, why don’t you quit backstabbing your fighters! What kind of businessman are you? You don’t leak info like that out. I predict you will be out of business in the next couple years due to poor business decision’s made by your childish ass.

Tito already beat Forest. He needs to move on to other better fighters aka Rashad Evans.

agreed. It was a smart move overall. If Forrest makes the move up the ladder again. Than the rematch will be logical at some time in the future. Tito’s focused on the belt. Evans is a highly ranked up and comer. Take him out and get thrown back into mix. Smart mover….not to mention that he has not beat Rashad. He has beat Griffen as mentioned above. Too support this move again. Those of you who know MMA should know that Evans is a much tougher fight

tito is an arrogant douchebag who runs his mouth too much. and yes forrest beat him the first time. i cannot see how anyone could be a fan of tito ortiz. there is really nothing else to say

 
anyone who thinks forrest won should look into becoming a professional judge for the ufc then!! yeah it was close and i agree with what forrest himself said, “you can’t lay on your back and get dominated for 4 minutes and expect to win a fight”

Man I was thinking about betting some money on Rashad evans and after hearing this I think I might. Just got me a new USbet account courtesy of UFCmania.

first of all, why does everybody spell forrests last name wrong? Its GRIFFIN, not griffen. its in the article above, doesnt take many skills to copy it down. tito probably just didnt want to fight on a card that wouldn’t get many buyers, that said he has been a bitch lately with a lot of things (the dana-tito boxing match).

Tito already beat Forest. He needs to move on to other better fighters aka Rashad Evans.

 
forrest griffin in my opinion(and eddie bravos) beat tito last time, and i think tito didnt want to fight an improved forrest griffin, becuz as we all saw forrest’s striking looked incredibly crisp and improved against hector ramirez. as well i think it was selfish of tito becuz if he fought forrest it would have made UFC72 alot better, instead he wanted exposure so he wanted to fight in the double title match fight card so more ppl could see him.

first of all, why does everybody spell forrests last name wrong? Its GRIFFIN, not griffen. its in the article above, doesnt take many skills to copy it down. tito probably just didnt want to fight on a card that wouldn’t get many buyers, that said he has been a bitch lately with a lot of things (the dana-tito boxing match).

Phil if ya think thats bad i seen a guy on here post his name as Forset Grifen or something like that it was more than a mispell i know that lol.

Tito already beat Forest. He needs to move on to other better fighters aka Rashad Evans.

I couldn’t agree with you more, Tito already beat Forest doing it again wouldn’t get him anywhere especially after forest is coming off a loss to keith jardine, what would that prove. I think beating Rashad would be setting a way better statement, proving that he can take anybody in the lightweight division(excluding chuck).

I don’t know why people are in love with Forest…he is WEAK! He couldn’t even put away Ramirez. This is a guy they plucked off the street in East LA and Forest couldnt even finish him. Tito has beaten everyone in the last how many years not named ICEMAN or THe NATURAL. Give Tito his due…I would love to see him take down rampage and G N P….

I couldn’t agree with you more, Tito already beat Forest doing it again wouldn’t get him anywhere especially after forest is coming off a loss to keith jardine, what would that prove. I think beating Rashad would be setting a way better statement, proving that he can take anybody in the lightweight division(excluding chuck).

The re match would not be set for tito to win but for forrest to make a statement.

Tito already beat Forest. He needs to move on to other better fighters aka Rashad Evans.

Yeah I don’t blame Tito at all. Fighters have to look out for their best interest. He’s lucky to get the fight with Evans considering the whole boxing incident with White. I wouldn’t be surprised if Tito heads off to another organization after 73.

I dont get the problem with Tito declining a fight with Forrest in favour of fighting Evans.He has allready beat Forest and Evans is a way more interesting fight.He has made the right choice for the fans he is not stupid.

first of all, why does everybody spell forrests last name wrong? Its GRIFFIN, not griffen. its in the article above, doesnt take many skills to copy it down. tito probably just didnt want to fight on a card that wouldn’t get many buyers, that said he has been a bitch lately with a lot of things (the dana-tito boxing match).

I hear Fourreste Griphon didn’t look that impressive against sick dog. I wish I saw the video myself though instead of relying on one opinion.

Dana white is a douche.
UFC 72 was a very wear card .
Tito’s a great fighter. but he is up and down
There really was no point for him to fighr Forrest again.
He’s moving forward (or trying to).

By up and down you mean down versus Liddell and Couture but up over everyone else? That’s not a bad position to be in.

It sounds like Dana White is trying to lay the blame for his weak line-up at UFC 72 on Tito. Newsflash Dana, the card still would have sucked.

I can’t stand Tito, but in this case I think taking Rashad instead of Forrest was the right move. If Griffin had beaten Jardine then he would have a reason to deserve a rematch with Tito. Forrest needs another win, then maybe he can challenge the winner of Tito-Rashad.

I hate Tito, but I see nothing wrong with this business decision. And as far as Forrest goes, man, he along with Jon Fitch are my two favorite fighters, but he is not the same fighter after his loss to Jarding. He has NO killer instinct. Bisping, Liddell, Shogun or just about anyone would have finished that Ramirez fight at about 5 different points through out the fight. Since the Jardine knockout, Forrest is straight up scared. He even said himself that he was running away from the fight. If you’re going to run away from Hector Ramirez, what are you going to against top competition. I don’t know why a lot of people think he should have won the decision of Tito. He might have squeeked out rounds 2 and 3 like one judge said, but he didnt have Tito hurt. Round one had Tito on top of Forrest and ground and pounded him for 4 minutes. That was very very close to being a 10-8 round. Plus, it seems like Forrest lost all of his punching power. He can not knock out any of the top fighters at 205. Actually, I don’t think he’ll even have another KO victory in the UFC. His only KO was against Elvis Sinosic. And we all know how much that’s saying. I believe that Elvis has been knocked out by his Grandman before.

I love Forrest and really hope he can get his shit together. HIs fight this weekend looked like an exhibition to me where he was trying to test out his newly found skill of the leg kick. Everytime he had Hector hurt, he backed off. Everytime Hector moved forward, Forrest ran away. That is not the same fighter that everyone fell in love with during TUF 1.

It sounds like Dana White is trying to lay the blame for his weak line-up at UFC 72 on Tito. Newsflash Dana, the card still would have sucked.

Actually, Ive heard from a lot of people that they enjoyed the card… Guida-Griffin fight is supposed to be a classic (so I hear..)

I’ve yet to watch the lineup, but a lot of casual fans actualy enjoyed it…

Haters…

yeah i voted that I would buy 72, but when it came down to it, I was like Fu*k that, i’m going to get blown and go to the lake! I read the results later, and being the two fights I wanted to see most went to decision I’m glad i didnt pay.

Actually, Ive heard from a lot of people that they enjoyed the card… Guida-Griffin fight is supposed to be a classic (so I hear..)

I’ve yet to watch the lineup, but a lot of casual fans actualy enjoyed it…

Haters…

Luppers, one good fight out of how many? The fight that you refer to also had a bad decision at the end.

damn good point there buddy, I would have liked to see Mcdonald actually knock someone out though, overall thats the fight I wish was online. anyone know if they made youtube?

The singer – McDonald fight was supposed to be good, as was the Smith-Herman fight….

Tito lovers…
You guys are FUNNY…. SO FUNNY!
Tito needs to move on…
Tito deserves a title shot…
The last five fights Tito has had, have been against KEN SHAMROCK. Then he beat Forrest, then he got his ass pummeled. So if Forrest doesnt deserve a second shot, why did Tito WASTE his time on Shamrock so many times?

Oh I know… cause fighters dont decide who they fight right?

^^ I ment 3 of the last 5 fights. God damn typing while working…

Tito was afraid, simple as that. He knows that he had trouble with Griffen last time (some thought Griffen won). He sees how much Griffen is improving and realizes he would probably lose for sure next time. Dana is right, the guy is not a fighter.

Yeah….Whatever

That’s why Tito took a more dangerous fight with a more dangerous fighter.

Your an idiot….

I don’t think Tito would be calling out Shogun or fighting Rashad if he was a sissy…

Yeah….Whatever

That’s why Tito took a more dangerous fight with a more dangerous fighter.

Your an idiot….

I don’t think Tito would be calling out Shogun or fighting Rashad if he was a sissy…

if we’ve learned nothing about tito its that he frequently calls out fighters he has no chance of beating. until he reels off 2 or 3 QUALITY victories in a row, he will still be a B class fighter in my book. i am of the opinion that tito peaked years ago and is on a steady decline when it comes to his abilities.

For the people claiming Titio is afraid, then answer me this, why did he instead pick Rashad, someone we can all agree is amore dangerous better fighter than Forrest.

For the people claiming Titio is afraid, then answer me this, why did he instead pick Rashad, someone we can all agree is amore dangerous better fighter than Forrest.

He didnt ‘pick’ anyone… that was the match that was laid out before him.
Im not saying Rashad is better or worse than anyone he has never fought. Forrest has the tools to beat almost anyone in the LHW division, so does Rashad.

tito will never get the credit he deserves. from 98’ to 2003 tito was the most popular fighter ever in the ufc. you could argue that he is the reason the sport is only growing. he has personality, and skill. and every ppv he is in is a sell out and has the highest ppv rankings of any ufc’s. tito v/s chuck was a record breaker in ppv, and it wasnt because of chuck. tito shamrock was a huge free tv event. and it wasnt becuase of shamrock either. everyone knew ken was going to get busted up, and they still tuned in to see tito. love or hate him. the sport is better with him in it. i personally love him. Shamrock and his whole lions den where punks. tito just out punked em to get the bad label. lets not forget that tito has only lost to the best fighters in the sport, couture, Frank shamrock, lydell twice. thats not so bad a loss record. and lets not forget most guys he punished went to pride and became legends over there such as silva and mezgar. and lets not forget that tito has the best ground and pound in the game period. forest got punished in the first round of that fight. it wasnt even close, and arguably a 10-8 round. evans is a complete mismatch as well. i guess they want to see if evans is as good as his record. because if he could beat tito then he would catipult to star status in the ufc. but it wont happen. give tito his just deserves as he has earned it.

Dana White is such the little “BITCH”. Tito scared? Scared of what? hurting his elbows on forrest face again. YA! Scared like he was scared to fight Dana “THE BIG BADD ASS” SHOOT! Give me a F*#KING BREAK some of us know what is really going on. Tito did the right thing by taking the fight with Rashad .That is the fight people rather see.Who wants to see a repeat? Not Me!.I THINK DANA WHITE DREAMS OF BEING TITO ORTIZ ,But he wakes up “UNCLE FESTER” EVERYTIME.DANA WHITE should wise up! QUICK…. P.S. TITO 1ST ROUND RASHAD Evans 15-1

yea, no dought tito wins this fight big. i dont even see evans putting up a fight. look for evans to get taken down and getting punished. no one can beat on you out of the guard like tito can. evans will get put away in the first. anyone who thinks he has a chanse of making it out of the first. come back on here after the fight and il teach you guys some more about mma!

Dana is right tito is a pussy and should not have got the decision wins over forrest all big head ortiz has is his ground and pound