Liddell: Fedor is 'coming over' to the UFC

Props: Baltimore Sun
Wishful thinking, sheer speculation or insider information? You decide while I go get me some soft serve.
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Fromt the pic, I guess he trains with Rampage. Was that pic taken on the walk to the ballroom to fight Lindland?
by MoreThanUFC on Jun 12, 2007 10:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OMG, OMG, OMG….That’s all I can say! If this is true I really think he will go through the UFC HW division like a hot knife through butter. He strong, can take a punch, never panics and a ground wizard! Wow I hope this is true!
by MMAFAN204 on Jun 12, 2007 10:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If it is true, looks like Dana White is sapping all the big talent away from Pride. It’ll be great to see him fight in the UFC, but Pride PPV sales may take a tumble.
by Freddy on Jun 12, 2007 10:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dana is actually waiitng for Fedor to come to UFC.
by ultra on Jun 12, 2007 11:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Fedor is truly coming over, then I think the the heavyweight divisions evolution has just reached a level just shy of the 170 lb division.
Between Fedor, CroCop, Noguiera, Sulvia, Arlovski, Gonzaga, Couture and even Hearing (who I expect will redeem himself somewhat with a good showing against Nog) there is a wealth of talent out there.
by Mahde on Jun 12, 2007 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If it is true, looks like Dana White is sapping all the big talent away from Pride. It’ll be great to see him fight in the UFC, but Pride PPV sales may take a tumble.
Just the opposite. He is getting the U.S. fans familiar with these guys so that when they go back to Japan, they can take a few U.S. fans with them via PPV.
by Mahde on Jun 12, 2007 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Do you think that Liddell has some insider information considering him and Dana are best buds?
by can a comp. calculate 10x10x10x10x10... on Jun 12, 2007 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well since he is dana’s puppet i believe him
by myke on Jun 12, 2007 11:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it’s about time.2 fights that’s all it will take to get the belt
by jason lofty stephens on Jun 12, 2007 11:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im sure he is coming over. I mean he is already merging 205 with the winner of quinton and henderson. He says hes not but its really only a matter of time before everyone is fighting in the same cage in a universal system. Couture has been saying forever now that he would love a fight with Fedor. And I mean lets be real. Everyone would be worried for Couture’s life during that match. lol.
by djpullout on Jun 12, 2007 11:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
..Its good to have the best fight the best..leaves no room for speculations on the who’s who’s..
it’s bound to happen sooner or later..let his first fight be against..Sylvia or AA..just to get them out the way..for a Gonzaga or the natural..Wow!!
by PhilQNY on Jun 12, 2007 11:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was always talking that he wanted to fight Sylvia to prove that he was better than him. Even though Sylvia is not the champ anymore, I agree Sylvia would be a good challenger on his first fight. That would kill 2 birds with 1 stone. He can say see I told you that fool Sylvia was nothing and it will be a good starter match for his first UFC fight. Then he can fight the champ next and be the first person to hold belts in the ufc and pride at the same time. Because Dan Henderson wont be. RAMPAGE!!!!!!
by can a comp. calculate 10x10x10x10x10... on Jun 12, 2007 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wanna see Tommy Morrison or Brock Lesnar fight someone like Fedor…Tommy would get smashed so bad he’d looking around for Rocky and Lesnar would quit ASAP and ask Vince for his old job back!
by MMAFAN204 on Jun 12, 2007 11:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But… If I do remember he did not want to waste his time fighting a person that has already lost to the HW champ. I think I heard him say that he wanted his first fight to be against the HW champ because he didn’t want to waste his career and body away fighting people who aren’t the best or considered the best. I also wonder if crocop getting beat in that fashion has convinced him to come over more than ever. He respects cro cop as a fighter and after seeing him getting KO’d its hard to imagine him not saying “ok, if thats the competition they have well then let me try it there”. He seems like a person that pushes himself harder than anyone else and likes to fight the “best” in the world.
by can a comp. calculate 10x10x10x10x10... on Jun 12, 2007 11:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor better start training in a Cage! Look, I know Fedor is awesome, and I love watching his fights, but he is not as “invincible” as people think.
1) Randleman Dropped him on his head. (I say luck only prevented his neck from snapping)
2) Fujita crumpled him with a shot to the chops, but he recovered. (Fujita came soooo close to Knocking him out.)
3) Mark Hunt, a K-1 kick-boxing fighter had an americana on him sooo deep, but he wouldn’t tap. (As I first stated, Hunt ain’t the best submission grapler (K-1), he came really close to tapping Fedor or snapping his arm.)
I realize these stories lead to aura of invicibility, but let’s realize, that they have not all been dominating performances…….The fights have just gone his way.
by Schiro on Jun 12, 2007 11:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
UFC 76: Emelianenko vs. Andrei Arlovski
by KneeToTheFace on Jun 12, 2007 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OMG, OMG, OMG….That’s all I can say! If this is true I really think he will go through the UFC HW division like a hot knife through butter. He strong, can take a punch, never panics and a ground wizard! Wow I hope this is true!
Fedor is by far the best fighter in the world today. MMAFan204’s quote says it all. If he comes to the UFC he should not have to take a warm up fight. He has fought in a cage before and at this stage of his career he shouldn’t be fighting for anything less than a belt.
by MMAFan1981 on Jun 12, 2007 11:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I also wonder if crocop getting beat in that fashion has convinced him to come over more than ever. He respects cro cop as a fighter and after seeing him getting KO’d its hard to imagine him not saying “ok, if thats the competition they have well then let me try it there”.
Nice story, but what he actually said about it was this:
“Crocop seems to me to be a higher level fighter than the Brazilian fighter, but failed to perform to his potential, and lost badly. He didn’t seem motivated to fight. I hope this’ll motivate him like after Randleman fight when he came back and began to KO people non-stop.”
As for Fedor signing with the UFC: Fedor will NOT sign a exclusive contract with the UFC. This will never happen – mark my words. If he signs something, then a contract that allows him to fight in the UFC and Pride and/or any other promotion as long as its in russia.
by YouTapped on Jun 12, 2007 11:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thay will prob. have him face tha winner out of randy and gonzaga like thay did to rampage and chuck
by KOOLGUY on Jun 12, 2007 12:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor shouldn’t have a warm up, it’s either Gonzaga or Couture. It would be disrespectful to a guy who is really undisputed, however he may WANT to Fight Sylvia, cause he talked so much trash.
by Hoodlum on Jun 12, 2007 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor better start training in a Cage! Look, I know Fedor is awesome, and I love watching his fights, but he is not as “invincible” as people think.
1) Randleman Dropped him on his head. (I say luck only prevented his neck from snapping)
2) Fujita crumpled him with a shot to the chops, but he recovered. (Fujita came soooo close to Knocking him out.)
3) Mark Hunt, a K-1 kick-boxing fighter had an americana on him sooo deep, but he wouldn’t tap. (As I first stated, Hunt ain’t the best submission grapler (K-1), he came really close to tapping Fedor or snapping his arm.)
I realize these stories lead to aura of invicibility, but let’s realize, that they have not all been dominating performances…….The fights have just gone his way.
Good point but i think all of those fights have made him a better fighter.
by KO Hex on Jun 12, 2007 12:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im telling you guys maybe he should Tommy Morrison and Brock Lesnar at the same time….at least then they have an outside shot at getting the split decision!!!!!!!!!
by MMAFAN204 on Jun 12, 2007 12:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor better start training in a Cage! Look, I know Fedor is awesome, and I love watching his fights, but he is not as “invincible” as people think.
1) Randleman Dropped him on his head. (I say luck only prevented his neck from snapping)
2) Fujita crumpled him with a shot to the chops, but he recovered. (Fujita came soooo close to Knocking him out.)
3) Mark Hunt, a K-1 kick-boxing fighter had an americana on him sooo deep, but he wouldn’t tap. (As I first stated, Hunt ain’t the best submission grapler (K-1), he came really close to tapping Fedor or snapping his arm.)
I realize these stories lead to aura of invicibility, but let’s realize, that they have not all been dominating performances…….The fights have just gone his way.
I agree with you Schiro that he is not invincible. Every fighter has their bad days and even bad moments where they get caught with something. It is how they handle the situation that makes them great.
1. The Randleman fight he was dropped on his head and any other fighter would have been knocked out. He then turns around and submits Randleman like 30 seconds later. He recovers faster than any fighter out there.
2. Fujita did catch him with a good punch but he never went down from it. Then later in the fight he hits Fujita with a similar punch puts him on the ground then chokes him out.
3. Hunt had a deeper Americana on Fedor than Fedor used to finish the fight. Fedor escapes because Hunt got tired and about 1 min later the fight is over.
These are what make him great, not invincible but great.
by MMAFan1981 on Jun 12, 2007 12:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just the opposite. He is getting the U.S. fans familiar with these guys so that when they go back to Japan, they can take a few U.S. fans with them via PPV.
Dana white actually is thinking about shutting down pride all together. I read an article i will try to fins which spoke about how they it is too much of a pian in the as to do all the marketing in japan and could be very costly. They also stated how they would need to start their own channel (Ex: Spike for the U.S) in Japan and that could be very hard to come by. Pride was soo big becuase it had top names, but all the top names are coming to the UFC so now it will be justa bunch of japanese no namers fighting and no one is really interested in that. Zuffa and the UFC are already making hella money now and more to come with just UFC so thats what their going to focus more of their attention on. They bought pride to get the fighters and cut out the competition. If you look at the latest pride event (Pride 34…Jeff Monson was the main event. Pretty sad) EVENTUALLY UFC WILL DOMINATE ALL!!!
by Jared on Jun 12, 2007 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you Schiro that he is not invincible. Every fighter has their bad days and even bad moments where they get caught with something. It is how they handle the situation that makes them great.
1. The Randleman fight he was dropped on his head and any other fighter would have been knocked out. He then turns around and submits Randleman like 30 seconds later. He recovers faster than any fighter out there.
2. Fujita did catch him with a good punch but he never went down from it. Then later in the fight he hits Fujita with a similar punch puts him on the ground then chokes him out.
3. Hunt had a deeper Americana on Fedor than Fedor used to finish the fight. Fedor escapes because Hunt got tired and about 1 min later the fight is over.
These are what make him great, not invincible but great.
AGREED…NUFF SAID. Even add his latest fight VS Lindland he was cut 10 seconds into it. Lindland kept busy and actually looked good against Fedor, but he then switches gears and gets Matt to tap. Thats what makes hime GREAT thats what makes him fun to watch!
by MMAFAN204 on Jun 12, 2007 12:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor grabbed the ropes in the Lindland fight, right as Lindland was about to slam him to the ground. Once Fedor grabbed the ropes, he was able to reverse Lindland, and take him to the ground and end the fight.
Lindland complained about it a little after the fight, but there is no way to tell what Lindland would have been able to do anyway had Fedor not grabbed the ropes.
by Schiro on Jun 12, 2007 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just the opposite. He is getting the U.S. fans familiar with these guys so that when they go back to Japan, they can take a few U.S. fans with them via PPV.
That’s a great point and makes all sense !!
by Roberto on Jun 12, 2007 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1. Cant wait to see this guy come lose. OVERRATED!!! Only quality wins are Nogs and Cro Cop. Hunt lost soley because of inexperience. If he would fight his brother he would lose!
Fedor is by far the best fighter in the world today. MMAFan204’s quote says it all. If he comes to the UFC he should not have to take a warm up fight. He has fought in a cage before and at this stage of his career he shouldn’t be fighting for anything less than a belt.
GSP and Anderson Silva and probabaly Rampage are all better than Fedor. Id love to see Rampage/Fedor.
by GasManShad on Jun 12, 2007 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor better start training in a Cage! Look, I know Fedor is awesome, and I love watching his fights, but he is not as “invincible” as people think.
1) Randleman Dropped him on his head. (I say luck only prevented his neck from snapping)
2) Fujita crumpled him with a shot to the chops, but he recovered. (Fujita came soooo close to Knocking him out.)
3) Mark Hunt, a K-1 kick-boxing fighter had an americana on him sooo deep, but he wouldn’t tap. (As I first stated, Hunt ain’t the best submission grapler (K-1), he came really close to tapping Fedor or snapping his arm.)
I realize these stories lead to aura of invicibility, but let’s realize, that they have not all been dominating performances…….The fights have just gone his way.
I agree that NO one and I mean NOONE is invincible and I do believe that the better man can most definatly get beat in the unpredictable sport of mma..but..just keep in mind that the mentality of never giving up is the reason why fedor has been so successful…My point is that by the skills he posseses he “should” be champ..but..everyone should remember that when it comes to fighting an accidental slip could cause you the victory in a split second..
by Mr.mayn on Jun 12, 2007 1:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One more thing is that to me his style is not all that great..its just him..hes a fucken tank…he gets slammed,clobbered and even felt the crocop left kick and still just brushes it off like a badass…
by Mr.mayn on Jun 12, 2007 1:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Should be good maybe the upset train on to his fights.
by jason bang on Jun 12, 2007 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This guy is they way better version of Andrei Arlovski. Better Sambo, Better take down defense and way better chin! Also sprinkle in heavy hands and versed in Judo!
GasManShad….your opinion is your opinion but I dont agree that Anderson Silva or Rampage are better than Fedor. GSP…MAYBE is pound for pound better.
You cannot say the man is overrated with wins over Big Nog and CroCop? These 2 are in the elite class for HW MMA fighters in the world. Also he has wins over quality fighters like Herring, Coleman, Randleman and Sobral. Saying he is overrated is an insult to these fighters!
I dont really thing anyone in the HW division can hang with this man on the ground! He’s too strong and way too versed in submissions!
I really think he has a great CHANCE at holding both belts at once!
by MMAFAN204 on Jun 12, 2007 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is great, that goes without saying. But, after all the upsets in the UFC world I have had a hard time convincing myself that these dudes are indestructable like I used to. Look at Cro Cop, people looked upon him along the same ranks as Fedor which he deserved because of his amazing young career , but he got knocked the f…. out by (oh I forgot his name).
My point exactly.
by MMAman. on Jun 12, 2007 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he should be thrown in the mix instantly like Dan Henderson, title shot right away.
by c-war on Jun 12, 2007 1:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he should be thrown in the mix instantly like Dan Henderson, title shot right away.
Absolutely. Guys like Fedor don’t have to “prove” anything. When the Red Sox signed Dice-K they didn’t say, “sorry, you can’t start until you prove you’re better than some of our AAA starters.”
I can see if Dana wants him to become “more well-known” to American audiences, but then just dedicate a few UFC Unleashed to his Pride fights.
by nvandy89 on Jun 12, 2007 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor grabbed the ropes in the Lindland fight, right as Lindland was about to slam him to the ground. Once Fedor grabbed the ropes, he was able to reverse Lindland, and take him to the ground and end the fight.
Lindland complained about it a little after the fight, but there is no way to tell what Lindland would have been able to do anyway had Fedor not grabbed the ropes.
Yeah he did grab the ropes but that happens all the time. Fighters grabbing the cage or the ropes, I really dont think its anything new and if it was such a hugh issue then they should start deducting points.
by MMAFAN204 on Jun 12, 2007 1:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He needs one “hello” fight. Sylvia at UFC 74?
by MoreThanUFC on Jun 12, 2007 1:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1. Cant wait to see this guy come lose. OVERRATED!!! Only quality wins are Nogs and Cro Cop. Hunt lost soley because of inexperience. If he would fight his brother he would lose!
If getting credit for being 3-0 against the other two best heavyweights in the world makes him “overrated”, then I think we need to rethink who fighters are rated.
Aleks has a size advantage, but everything I have heard or read says that he is very lacking in drive and determination when compared to Fedor.
by nvandy89 on Jun 12, 2007 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I may be crazy but I think that Brandon Vera might be facing Tim Sylvia at 74. Thats a fight I want to see!
by MMAFAN204 on Jun 12, 2007 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anybody who knows MMA knows who Fedor is so it is a huge insult to make him fight some “warmup” guy just to familurize fans. If they gave Henderson an immediate title shot they damn well better do the same for Fedor. The only reason not to is if Fedor himself wants someone else other that the champ first. Like Sylvia or maybe Cro Cop again.
by Mattchupichu on Jun 12, 2007 2:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is great, that goes without saying. But, after all the upsets in the UFC world I have had a hard time convincing myself that these dudes are indestructable like I used to. Look at Cro Cop, people looked upon him along the same ranks as Fedor which he deserved because of his amazing young career , but he got knocked the f…. out by (oh I forgot his name).
My point exactly.
Noone looked at cro cop and said he was the same as fedor. Cro cop fights like an unmotivated machine, Fedor is just a beast the fights with pure heart ie. getting dropped on his head like that would have knocked 95 percent of the dudes out. It looked like Fedor said “oh f&ck no you didn’t bit*h!”
by can a comp. calculate 10x10x10x10x10... on Jun 12, 2007 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Do you think that Liddell has some insider information considering him and Dana are best buds?
Definetly…..RC also started commenting all of a sudden on a a fight w/ Fedor. when either of these guys start talking you can start getting excited. With all thats going on in MMA right now. Theres no other place to go.
by Stafo on Jun 12, 2007 2:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really excited about this news. The heavyweight division will be so deep. I can see title changing from hand to hand. Thats exciting to me. Love to see great champs, but I also like to see who takes the guy out. The UFC is the place to be
by Stafo on Jun 12, 2007 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You all sound so suprised,Ive been waiting to hear this every time they say Dana has an anouncement I always keep my fingers crossed that its to anounce Fedor coming to the UFC.
by mcanena on Jun 12, 2007 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Totally off Topic but……Why has NOTHING been even mentioned on the Ultimate Fighter 5 reality show, that Rob Emerson fought Jens Pulver in his first MMA fight and lost a decision. (maybe they did and I didnt see it)
Why has this fact been completely omitted from the show? We have heard all about how Pulver got KO’ed by Creepy Joe, why no mention of this?
Here is the link to Emersons record, see for yourself.
http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?FighterID=5286
by Schiro on Jun 12, 2007 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Guys like Fedor don’t have to “prove” anything. When the Red Sox signed Dice-K they didn’t say, “sorry, you can’t start until you prove you’re better than some of our AAA starters.”
Actually Dice-K did have to go through Spring Training to prove himself.
by MrFye on Jun 12, 2007 2:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How can people say liddell was intimidated by Rampage that is absolute nonsense,you would never lead with a body shot against someone you were intimidated by.
by mcanena on Jun 12, 2007 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man, I’m really skeptical on this. If Chuck Liddell is are only source saying that Fedor is coming, I would in way shape or form consider that the be 100% fact. He, himself doesn’t even know what he’s talking about most of the time. I mean, has Chuck Liddell ever broke news this big before? I don’t believe that Chuck has ever broke any news at all, not even something to the affect of Jake O’Brien dropping out of UFC 73.
Also, the Baltimore Sun isn’t where the UFC would break news of this magnitude.
by ViolentMike on Jun 12, 2007 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he did grab the ropes but that happens all the time. Fighters grabbing the cage or the ropes, I really dont think its anything new and if it was such a hugh issue then they should start deducting points.
Fedor knocked Lindland out about 30 seconds after grabbing the ropes, so any deduction would be a moot point. Ha ha, I’m clever today.
by PW on Jun 12, 2007 3:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is a great story! Fedor is my second favorite hw next to AA! after fedor gets his first win i would love to see them fight! id be pulling for AA but Fedor would most likely win, but everyone said that about st pierre and CC so who knows anything can happen all it takes is one punch or kick
by ChuckLand on Jun 12, 2007 3:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Noone looked at cro cop and said he was the same as fedor. Cro cop fights like an unmotivated machine, Fedor is just a beast the fights with pure heart ie. getting dropped on his head like that would have knocked 95 percent of the dudes out. It looked like Fedor said “oh f&ck no you didn’t bit*h!”
No your right, they are far from the same fighting style wise. But it is very clear to most MMA fans that there styles against eachother in a fight leads to nothing but a close call judging. Hence: sharing the same RANK of fighter, I never said style. Watch the Crocop vs. Fedor fight, who is really the winner?
by MMAman. on Jun 12, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If it is true, looks like Dana White is sapping all the big talent away from Pride. It’ll be great to see him fight in the UFC, but Pride PPV sales may take a tumble.
Pride is gone bro. Zuffa is liquidating it. The rumors are that Pride as we know it is gone. It’s just the UFC now. The UFC will do 4 to 5 shows a year in Japan and possibly use the Pride name in some way.
by Frizz on Jun 12, 2007 3:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor knocked Lindland out about 30 seconds after grabbing the ropes, so any deduction would be a moot point. Ha ha, I’m clever today.
Thats what Im saying….but he actually submitted Matt I think with a arm bar! But yes good point!
by MMAFAN204 on Jun 12, 2007 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come Fedor! Come destroy these posers who think they are championship material!
On a serious note this would be great. But I’d hate to see Pride get shut down, what about the Japanese fans who have been so loyal over the years?
by AaronW on Jun 12, 2007 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Fedor might be the best fighter of all time. But, I think alot of you guys are setting yourself for disappointment. We all know that anything can happen, and I think we will see Fedor lose at some point.
Anything can and will happen. I just wonder how people will bash Fedor if he loses a match?
I would love to see Fedor go udefeated in the Octagon, it is highly unlikely though.
War Fedor!
by Frizz on Jun 12, 2007 3:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor knocked Lindland out about 30 seconds after grabbing the ropes, so any deduction would be a moot point. Ha ha, I’m clever today.
Since when did a armbar become a KNOCKOUT? Fedor is a beast and I think more dangerous in a cage!
by Frizz on Jun 12, 2007 3:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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Fedor knocked Lindland out about 30 seconds after grabbing the ropes, so any deduction would be a moot point. Ha ha, I’m clever today.
Fedor submitted Lindland. But youre right, he grabbed the ropes, oh well, it happens all the time and people wouldnt have talked about how much it changed the outcome of the fight if it wasnt Fedor, the fact that it was against Lindland makes me smile for the simple fact that Lindland has been known to be an ass.. he pulled a Mike Tyson on a guy in greco, dont think that he woudnt have grabbed the ropes if Fedor were taking him down…anyways..i think Fedor is awesome, but he is beatable…he hasnt really fought a competitive fight in some time now, and you see what that can do to people…Youtapped is right though, he wont be signing any long term contracts with the ufc…i would like to see him come and fight everyonce in awhile…but if this is the extent of his contract do you think Dana will let him fight for the title? NO….Will Fedor want to fight anyone other than the champ? He has a habit of thinking some fighters arent worthy enough to fight him….so i say this is going to become a pissing match with Fedor and Dana, and theres a good chance we might not see ths happen
by MMA Dude on Jun 12, 2007 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Since when did a armbar become a KNOCKOUT? Fedor is a beast and I think more dangerous in a cage!
Tap out instead of knock out, my mistake. Nonetheless, my point that a point deduction is meaningless when the fighter blatantly cheats to immediately turn a very negative situation into a sub win remains valid. A good referee would have stood them up rather than let Fedor profit that much from his cheating. I consider that win tainted to say the least.
by PW on Jun 12, 2007 3:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Fedor is truly coming over, then I think the the heavyweight divisions evolution has just reached a level just shy of the 170 lb division.
Between Fedor, CroCop, Noguiera, Sulvia, Arlovski, Gonzaga, Couture and even Hearing (who I expect will redeem himself somewhat with a good showing against Nog) there is a wealth of talent out there.
Thank you for omitting Vera. He doesn’t belong with that group… yet.
by Mamas Boy on Jun 12, 2007 3:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All this talk about Fedor grabbing the rope during the Lindland fight just reinforces the need to do away with the boxing ring and have everyone use the octagon.
I believe that Pride will no longer be what it was. The unified MMA rules and Octagon will become the international standard.
by Andy on Jun 12, 2007 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im telling you guys maybe he should Tommy Morrison and Brock Lesnar at the same time….at least then they have an outside shot at getting the split decision!!!!!!!!!
Getting AIDS more likely
by Mamas Boy on Jun 12, 2007 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, the Baltimore Sun isn’t where the UFC would break news of this magnitude.
Hey don’t knock Ball-tee-more hown! How many major newspapers can boast a dedicated MMA reporter?
by Mamas Boy on Jun 12, 2007 4:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What the hell is Fedor doing in that pic? Loooks a little gay (not that there’s anything wrong with that)
I assume the background and ice cream cones are photoshoped…but what is that face Fedor is making?
by savior on Jun 12, 2007 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He needs one “hello” fight. Sylvia at UFC 74?
Sylvia is still supposed to be in contention though. The hello fight is usually some scrub. Hey Asserio Silva- where are you?!
by Mamas Boy on Jun 12, 2007 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Fedor, Shogun, Silva come to US, then forget Pride, its gone. aF the fans in Japan, they got wrestling. We need those fighters here, I can at least make it to one event in Vegas, but Japan forget about it.
by DanaBlk on Jun 12, 2007 4:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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NOBODY HAS REPORTED THIS YET – BUT, THIS IS WHAT I THINK…
UFC IS PULLING ALL THE BEST FROM PRIDE – PRIDE WILL BECOME ANOTHER LEVEL TO THE UFC TREE…LIKE THIS-
3 – WEC
2 – PRIDE
1 – UFC
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by savior on Jun 12, 2007 5:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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NOBODY HAS REPORTED THIS YET – BUT, THIS IS WHAT I THINK…
UFC IS PULLING ALL THE BEST FROM PRIDE – PRIDE WILL BECOME ANOTHER LEVEL TO THE UFC TREE…LIKE THIS-
3 – WEC
2 – PRIDE
1 – UFC
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Aren’t you stating the obvious?
by MMAman. on Jun 12, 2007 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What the hell is Fedor doing in that pic? Loooks a little gay (not that there’s anything wrong with that)
I assume the background and ice cream cones are photoshoped…but what is that face Fedor is making?
That is not photoshop.
by MMAman. on Jun 12, 2007 5:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m not hating but Fedor will NOT win 3 in a row over here. The “brazilian fighter” might cave his head in…
by BLOodyMEss on Jun 12, 2007 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I see the UFC dissolving Pride and hosting UFC events in Japan headlining former Pride fighters with recognizable names. My prediction is this: early to mid-2008 we will see UFC 84(5 or 6 or whatever): Live from Nagano. The main event will be Fedor vs Couture/Gonzaga for the title. Nog will be on there, so will Crocop, Shogun, Wandy, Rampage and Henderson. All of the biggest names from the former Pride while they are still recognizable to the fans. The show will be bigger and more star-studded than any Pride show ever was.
After the event, fight fans in Japan just may forget about Pride and boxing rings and head stomps…
by JB on Jun 12, 2007 6:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it says on Junkie that Pride offered Rampage a bonus to throw his first Pride fight, which he did lose. Hmmmm wonder if he lost on purpose?
by BLOodyMEss on Jun 12, 2007 6:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor needs to a be put on a UFC fightcard immediately.
by UFC-Forums on Jun 12, 2007 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dana is stealing all the good fighter from pride which is very disapointing pretty soon dana will have pride like a wec for japan.
by mikeclem on Jun 12, 2007 11:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe Gabriel Gonzaga is the second best HW in the world. I’ve seen him fight many times and, like Fedor, improves everytime. He’s huge, determined, seemingly dispassionate in the ring, and very skilled. He will beat Randy Couture and will be Fedor’s biggest challenge to date.
by watchTavares on Jun 13, 2007 12:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just the opposite. He is getting the U.S. fans familiar with these guys so that when they go back to Japan, they can take a few U.S. fans with them via PPV.
Nah man, Dana dosnt shift them back and forth. They sign exclusive contracts, Fedor has so far refused to do it apparently, which is why he ain’t over here yet. But Shogun, CC, Rampage, they are all UFC exclusive, you wont see them back in Pride unless UFC contracts are done.
Henderson is still a Pride fighter, and fights in teh UFC as a PrideVs.UFC thing, this is it unfortunatly I think, the big superbowl Pride Vs. UFC, I think this is it.
But with all teh fighters going to UFC, they are all in one Org, we don’t need a superbowl anymore.
by The Anomaly on Jun 13, 2007 12:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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He says it all casual like it’s a done deal. I hope this is going down.
by The Anomaly on Jun 13, 2007 12:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But… If I do remember he did not want to waste his time fighting a person that has already lost to the HW champ. I think I heard him say that he wanted his first fight to be against the HW champ because he didn’t want to waste his career and body away fighting people who aren’t the best or considered the best. I also wonder if crocop getting beat in that fashion has convinced him to come over more than ever. He respects cro cop as a fighter and after seeing him getting KO’d its hard to imagine him not saying “ok, if thats the competition they have well then let me try it there”. He seems like a person that pushes himself harder than anyone else and likes to fight the “best” in the world.
If he likes to fight the best in the world , what the hell is he doing fighting in Bodog. I’ll beleive that when he comes to the UFC.
by Gord on Jun 13, 2007 1:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anybody who knows MMA knows who Fedor is so it is a huge insult to make him fight some “warmup” guy just to familurize fans. If they gave Henderson an immediate title shot they damn well better do the same for Fedor. The only reason not to is if Fedor himself wants someone else other that the champ first. Like Sylvia or maybe Cro Cop again.
Or maybe another good reason to give him a couple of warm up fights is so he doesn’t get his ass kicked (or head) like CC from lack of cage experience. Fedor is good, but any one who thinks he will dominate Randy, GG, Vera, AA is in for a rude awakening.
by Gord on Jun 13, 2007 1:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Fedor is truly coming over, then I think the the heavyweight divisions evolution has just reached a level just shy of the 170 lb division.
Between Fedor, CroCop, Noguiera, Sulvia, Arlovski, Gonzaga, Couture and even Hearing (who I expect will redeem himself somewhat with a good showing against Nog) there is a wealth of talent out there.
Thank you for omitting Vera. He doesn’t belong with that group… yet.
Ya, Hering has proved himself way more than Vera has in the UFC.
by Gord on Jun 13, 2007 1:59 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dana is stealing all the good fighter from pride which is very disapointing pretty soon dana will have pride like a wec for japan.
What’s disapointing about having all the best fighters in one org. so we can see who really is the best, rather than just speculating.
by Gord on Jun 13, 2007 2:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah the texas gay horse has proved himself way more in the ufc than vera….lest we forget he has a loss on his record and vera doesnt. I would love to see Fedor come over and fight couture though, and believe it or not i think after randy kicks GG’s ass he would have a chance in that one….that would be fight of the century so far in my mind.
by Phil on Jun 13, 2007 3:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it says on Junkie that Pride offered Rampage a bonus to throw his first Pride fight, which he did lose. Hmmmm wonder if he lost on purpose?
Stop reading Junkie, traitor.
But seriously, I’ve been working on this story for the last two days for another site. But Sam Caplan has a great story over on Five Ounces of Pain here: http://fiveouncesofpain.com/2007/06/12/update-on-the-rampage-accusations/
You can also listen to the radio broadcast of Mauro Ranallo with the president of KOTC who was QRJ’s manager then, followed by Sam after that. It’s a huge story right now. I dont know why there’s no thread here…
harcoresportsradio,com then clickshows, then fight network radio. It’s on yesterdays show, part one.
by MoreThanUFC on Jun 13, 2007 7:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well since he is dana’s puppet i believe him
OK TITO!
by Matt on Jun 13, 2007 9:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bring back the old school with a 12 man open weight tournament fight all in the same night.Featuring fedor,randy,chuck,rampage,shogun,soko,big nog,gonzaga,henderson,crocop,matthughes,andersonsilva,
by bigdiesel on Jun 13, 2007 11:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope captain america whoops gonzaga’s ass,so then that would set up a macth the whole world would see.RANDY COUTURE VS. FEDOR EMELIANENKO.
by bigdiesel on Jun 13, 2007 11:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now would be the time to start making a ufc game for the ps3 or 360.
by bigdiesel on Jun 13, 2007 11:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now would be the time to start making a ufc game for the ps3 or 360.
They already are.
by Tommy on Jun 13, 2007 11:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RAMPAGE WILL STILL WHOOP FEDOR’S ASS.
by bigdiesel on Jun 13, 2007 11:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Randy is great, but he’s 45 and Fedor would knock him out in one round. Fedor hits harder than Chuck I’d wager and is much more skilled than pretty much anyone Randy has fought. The people who diss him and his Pride work must be the sort that think if it isn’t UFC it sucks, which is so very wrong. While he was dominating Pride, the UFC Heavyweight division was run by flabby chumps like Tim Sylvia. Now is the best time to be a UFC heavyweight fan with the Pride guys coming over and with Fedor it will only get better.
P.S. Oh and the old tournament style was horrible. I’ve been watching some of the old single digit UFC’s and its shocking how far the sport has come. The fights after the first round were tired guys looking tired in the ring. The best thing they did was get rid of the tournament. I loved it at the time but I didn’t know better.
P.P.S The head stomps in Pride were great, I loved the different rules.
by AaronW on Jun 13, 2007 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
couture is 43 not 45 and fedor wouldnt knock him out in one round. how many people do you think said that about the couture vs. sylvia fight? while i do realize that fedor is miles ahead of syvlia, you cant count out couture…ever.
by Phil on Jun 13, 2007 2:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
one more thing….big diesel, rampage would have to gain a lot of weight or hope that fedor lost a lot of weight for that fight to happen…neither of those is very likely. rampage fights at 205 and fedor is a heavyweight
by Phil on Jun 13, 2007 2:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and another thing big diesel, Fedor would whoop Rampage’s ass in Round2 maybe 3
by ChuckLand on Jun 13, 2007 4:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RAMPAGE WILL STILL WHOOP FEDOR’S ASS.
LOL Rampage you posting about yourself again?
by BLOodyMEss on Jun 13, 2007 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe another good reason to give him a couple of warm up fights is so he doesn’t get his ass kicked (or head) like CC from lack of cage experience. Fedor is good, but any one who thinks he will dominate Randy, GG, Vera, AA is in for a rude awakening.
I do think he will dominate. I hate to say it but Randy and AA. Fedor has no fear, unloads on people, and is too damn well rounded. He might not be the best technical striker in MMA but it works really well for him, armbaring judo olympians, plus it seems pretty obvious he made some sort of deal with satan.
by Mattchupichu on Jun 13, 2007 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor looks gay in this picture eating to ice cream at the same time makes him a beast. Watch out Andre he is goin to bite u!!!!!!!!!!!LOL
by St. Amour on Jun 13, 2007 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anything can and will happen. I just wonder how people will bash Fedor if he loses a match?
Oh, they’ll throw Fedor & all of his prior accomplishments RIGHT UNDER THE BUS! GSP anyone? How about Chuck Liddell? Rich Franklin? Matt Hughes. The list goes on & on…………
by Machine on Jun 13, 2007 6:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A good referee would have stood them up rather than let Fedor profit that much from his cheating. I consider that win tainted to say the least.
PW, after reading your comments about this I’m starting to think that you may not have seen the fight for yourself. You should watch it when you have the chance because that was a very VALID win.
by Machine on Jun 13, 2007 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I see the UFC dissolving Pride and hosting UFC events in Japan headlining former Pride fighters with recognizable names.
This makes total sense. Pride is definately gone. My reasoning is that it’s no secret that fighting in the ring and fighting in the cage are two very different scenarios. Aside from what they have in common, the advantages & disadvantages of each are far too different.
Under the initial idea that Pride & UFC will co-exist & the fighters will move back & forth between the 2 or meet once a year in a super bowl, all fighters would be at a disadvantage of some sort. See, if a UFC guy has to cross from the cage to the ring for a Pride fight, the Pride guy has the home field advantage & vice-versa.
You can train all you want but this could be a huge problem for many fighters, especially those without camps to call home. Not to mention all of the potential excuses that would surface in the event of a loss. These are the reasons that initally came to mind & I’m sure there are many other valid points as to why the 2 can no longer co-exist now that UFC owns Pride. I mean, how do you unify rules when the game is played on 2 very different playing fields?
Oh & the UFC NEEDS the yellow card system.
by Machine on Jun 13, 2007 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh & the UFC NEEDS the yellow card system.
Yes, they most definatly do, Kos and Deiego wouldn’t even have seen a paycheque for all the yellow cards they would have got.
by Gord on Jun 13, 2007 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is a great fighter in Pride, but I am not convinced about how successful he would be in UFC. He cuts too easy, whoever he fights will prob start aiming elbows at his head and hope for a stoppage. Of course if that doesn’t happen he will probably break his opponents face or make him tap.
by Bastich on Jun 21, 2007 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
one more thing….big diesel, rampage would have to gain a lot of weight or hope that fedor lost a lot of weight for that fight to happen…neither of those is very likely. rampage fights at 205 and fedor is a heavyweight
Fedor only weighs 220lbs and QRJ proberbly walks around at 215 or so, Chuck is the ONLY person who could beat fedor.
by IceFan on Jul 1, 2007 10:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fromt the pic, I guess he trains with Rampage. Was that pic taken on the walk to the ballroom to fight Lindland?
This is one of the funniest things I have read. I really bet he could just stroll around.
by Billy Gamble on Jul 11, 2007 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
>Watch the Crocop vs. Fedor fight, who is really the winner?
Fedor. He looked better in standing and on the ground. One thing people forget talking about this fight is that Fedor fought with injured right wrist (particulary broken finger), it was frozen for a fight.
by Jim on Aug 3, 2007 10:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
liddell is wanting to take on fedor – take a number…
the comment about him not winning a fight standing is only true on the surface- in a way it’s not like fedor to just keep pounding.
as soon as he stuns you he’ll choke you out or arm bar you or kimura you etc…
he tko’d gary goodridge with strikes but after that seems to have decided not to break hand bones if there are other options – fedor always seems to have options so chuck better watch out – not that I don’t think chuch has a chance. i always thought a kO win against fedor is more likely than a sub. that doesnt exactly say that the iceman is a tough match for fedor though. sorry to say.
by patrickgamil on Mar 10, 2008 2:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
while fedor cuts easily , excepting stoppage fedor usually wins in spite of a cut, or getting suplexed on his head. in that sense his recovery is as good as wandy’s.
the only better time is hunt’s – he doesnt actually get dazed so he doesnt need recovery time. yikers..
by patrickgamil on Mar 10, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
actually ufc , cage elbows and all is as much a different ball game as anyone imagined. however my guess is fedor’s roots, adaptability, will be successful in the cage. he has already begun working on elbows since quite a while back – s c a r y … not knowing whether it’s kimura elbow gashing or GnP that’s about to happen to you. actually about the ‘gameplan’ comment (also from liddell i think’ – although everybody wants a piece of fedor so whatever). anyway the thing about gameplans is they are great when they work like in practice. the most elite – i call fedor anderson silva, big nog, gsp and penn may use a basic gmeplan but wont be limited to it. the gameplan guys like crocop , liddell, -stand up defence/strike or matt hugh’s mark cooleman are great when it’s working.
surely fedor didn’t plan to be under mark hunt or hong man choi or slammed on his head by randleman but he had an answer each time.
i am partly wrong though cause he did try to armbar hunt early and failed – impressive defence by hunt actually.,…..
by patrickgamil on Mar 10, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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