i’d love to see that fight, couture might be a match up that could give fedor some problems, with his strength and wrestling he could control fedor and try to keep fedor off the top of him where fedor excels, we saw lindland, someone similar to couture but a lot smaller give fedor a few problems early in that fight and maybe randy could have similar success…don’t get me wrong i know fedor is a beast and a very good submission fighter but i think him and couture would be a hell of a match up…

i doubt we’ll ever see it though because i think randy is gonna have some trouble with gonzaga, i know he beat sylvia who was a lot bigger, but gonzaga is a different kind of bigger, he’s stronger and faster than sylvia and has a very good ground game too…

Fedor has proven multiple times that it takes more than strength and wrestling to defeat him. Between his destruction of Mark Coleman, and his out-classing Kevin Randleman, I think he realizes it and is continuing to improve in that area. Randy Couture isn’t getting any better, and he was never as capable as Mark Coleman, so I doubt he would put up much of a fight.

I’d give it to Fedor. And I would pay a kidney to watch it on ppv.

I think Fedor would really expose Randy’s age… and capitalize on his week spots. Fedor is big enough and strong enough to dominate that fight on the ground, and obviously on the feet. But Randy always has a shot in the Octagon… ring, NFW.

I think couture would be a problem for 90% of the heavyweight fighters out there. He is a smart fighter that studies the fighter he is facing and tries to identify there weaknesses and attack those weaknesses. Not to take anything away from fedor, he is a landmonster. I would love to see the fight!!!!

I don’t even think I care who wins. I just want to see this war. Both fighters bring it every time and will be fight of the year no matter when it happens. Maybe of the decade if they hurry up.

While Fedor is arguably the best p4p fighter today, he has shown vulnerabilities in the past — he has been slammed head-first into the mat by Randleman (who neglected to finish him when he had the chance), and has been put on his back many times (though each time he recovered to win, usually by submission).

Even though I would still give Fedor the edge, fighting Randy (the best p4p wrestler in MMA today, the best clinch for takedown, good striking, never been submitted) in the UFC (in a cage, elbows to the head are legal) can give Fedor problems. If such a fight happens in 2007 (the year of upsets) Fedor could very well be next in line of being upset. Never ever count Randy out.

The Couture/Coleman comparison is weak. Coleman might have a better wrestling pedigree, but Couture is a much better all around fighter. Coleman has never added much to his wrestling base, but Couture has progressed in other areas- most notably his striking.

Maybe he wouldn’t beat Fedor, but I give him as much of a chance as anyone else. This is one of those matchups that needs to happen, just like Liddell/Wanderlei. Hopefully Fedor won’t fight exclusively in Bodog, because who knows how long Randy has left.

If anyone in the UFC can beat Fedor, Randy is the man to do it. He is so smart in the cage with the heart to match. Could be best fight ever.

 I would give Randy the decision on that one……..cant wait for GSP’s comeback!!

I hope this fight doesn’t happen to far down the road..the sooner the better.

Sorry Randy fans, but Gonzaga is going to introduce Randy to father time. He shouldn’t even discuss any fight until he deals with Gabe. I love Randy, but Gabe will not blow his chance at the title and if Cro-Cop didn’t intimidate Gabe neither will Randy. Fedor better get into the UFC soon before father time catches up with him too.

[quote comment=“76507”]If anyone in the UFC can beat Fedor, Randy is the man to do it. He is so smart in the cage with the heart to match. Could be best fight ever.

totally agree

I’m going to quote Joe Rogan on this one. ‘’Randy Couture is my hero’’.

As a fan,that would be a great fight to watch. We all know that Couture would enter the fight and give it his all against Fedor. Although, Im pretty sure that Fedor would win,but never count out Captain America. It would be great to see that fight nonetheless.

I think the intersting thing to say is that Randy is still at the top because his strenght is wrestling and wrestling is the strongest weapon in MMA.

“Randy Couture isn’t getting any better, and he was never as capable as Mark Coleman, so I doubt he would put up much of a fight.”

Coleman had a somewhat better wrestling career, but in MMA, Couture has gone several levels beyond anything Coleman has shown himself capable of.

Couture would have major underdog status and that would work to his advantage as always

I love Couture, but Fedor is the greastest HW in the world. He’d likely whip Randy in 2 or 3 minutes.

..but Couture can be looked at as the best MMA champion ever..with all he has achieved and being he is still active..I can’t put pass the possibility of Couture beatin Fedor..cause that can happen.

I admit Fedor would be the one most likely to end the fight, Randy usually seems to win by dec. after all. regardless anything is possible.

“If anyone in the UFC can beat Fedor, Randy is the man to do it. He is so smart in the cage with the heart to match. Could be best fight ever.”

What about that gu who just destroyed Cro cop. I heard he’s kinda good…

Sorry Randy fans, but Gonzaga is going to introduce Randy to father time. He shouldn’t even discuss any fight until he deals with Gabe. I love Randy, but Gabe will not blow his chance at the title and if Cro-Cop didn’t intimidate Gabe neither will Randy. Fedor better get into the UFC soon before father time catches up with him too.

 I know in MMA old has a diffrent definition but hell Fedor is only like 31 compared to Randy’s what 44 yrs. but i deffinitly see your point and i agree. I hope Couture can pull it out but he is getting up there.

fedor would dominate with his sambo and gnp. also i would not be surprised if fedor never fights in the ufc due to how he likes one fight contracts and being non exclusive. hopefully dana or fedor can compromise so we can see the dream matches everyone has been hoping for.

later,
jonny ransdell

WHO EVER IS ON HERE TRYING TO MAKE A CASE FOR COUTURE OVER FEDOR IS SMOKING THAT GOOD SHIT THAT THEY DONT SELL IN THE U.S. CAUSE WHAT THE HELL HAVE YOU SEEN OUT OF COUTURE THAT EVEN LEADS YOU TO BELIVE THAT HE EVEN HAS A CHANCE WITH FEDOR …? LINDLAND DIDNT EVEN LAND THAT PUNCH THAT CUT FEDOR THE BOTTOM OF HIS GLOVE CUT HIS EYE AND YOU WANT TO SAY HE HAD TROUBLE WITH HIM ..? FEDOR PRETTY MUCH FEELS HIS OPPONENT OUT THEN DECIDES HES GONNA FINISH HIM …AND THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO LINDLAND …COUTURE DOESNT STAND A CHANCE …AT WHAT 50YRS OLD ..?? IS THAT HOW OLD HE IS …COME ON …COUTURE BETTER BE WORRIED ABOUT REALITY LIKE GONZAGA AND NOT FORGETTING TO TAKE HIS CENTRUM DAILY VITAMINS…I LOVE IT HOW THESE GUYS BEAT 1 TOP GUY AND THEN TURN AROUND AND START CALLING OUT THE GUYS WHO HAVE BEATEN EVERYONE THERE IS TO BEAT FOR YEARS …. I DONT SEE ANYONE IN UFC OR PRIDE OR ANY OTHER ORG. TAKING OUT FEDOR ANY TIME SOON …THE BEST THING FOR THEM TO DO IS WAIT IT OUT LET YOUNG TALENT DEVELOP AND WHEN FEDOR IS LIKE OVER 35 AND PAST HIS PRIME …BEAT HIM AND SAY SEE HES NOT UNBEATABLE TILL THEN …THERE IS NO HOPE …. SO ALL YOU COUTURE,GONZAGA SYLVIA, ARLOVSKI LOVERS OUT THERE GIVE IT UP ….YOUR BEST SHOT AT TAKING OUT FEDOR IS EX-PRIDE FIGHTERS SAD TO SAY …AND JOSH BARNETT IS A FRIEND OF FEDOR …SO YOUR BEST HOPE NOG AND HES 0-3 SO JUST WAIT IT OUT HATERS …JUST 5 MORE YEARS AND HIS REIGN WILL BE OVER …

..but Couture can be looked at as the best MMA champion ever..with all he has achieved and being he is still active..I can’t put pass the possibility of Couture beatin Fedor..cause that can happen.

MAYBE YOU COULD KICK DOWN SOME OF WHAT YOUR SMOKING THAN WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN ….

If anyone in the UFC can beat Fedor, Randy is the man to do it. He is so smart in the cage with the heart to match. Could be best fight ever.

totally agree

BLOODYMESS DIDNT I TELL YOU TO GO CHANGE YOUR TAMPON ALREADY..? WHAT ARE YOU DOING STILL ON HERE TALKING BULLSHIT…??

WHO EVER IS ON HERE TRYING TO MAKE A CASE FOR COUTURE OVER FEDOR IS SMOKING THAT GOOD SHIT THAT THEY DONT SELL IN THE U.S. CAUSE WHAT THE HELL HAVE YOU SEEN OUT OF COUTURE THAT EVEN LEADS YOU TO BELIVE THAT HE EVEN HAS A CHANCE WITH FEDOR …? LINDLAND DIDNT EVEN LAND THAT PUNCH THAT CUT FEDOR THE BOTTOM OF HIS GLOVE CUT HIS EYE AND YOU WANT TO SAY HE HAD TROUBLE WITH HIM ..? FEDOR PRETTY MUCH FEELS HIS OPPONENT OUT THEN DECIDES HES GONNA FINISH HIM …AND THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO LINDLAND …COUTURE DOESNT STAND A CHANCE …AT WHAT 50YRS OLD ..?? IS THAT HOW OLD HE IS …COME ON …COUTURE BETTER BE WORRIED ABOUT REALITY LIKE GONZAGA AND NOT FORGETTING TO TAKE HIS CENTRUM DAILY VITAMINS…I LOVE IT HOW THESE GUYS BEAT 1 TOP GUY AND THEN TURN AROUND AND START CALLING OUT THE GUYS WHO HAVE BEATEN EVERYONE THERE IS TO BEAT FOR YEARS …. I DONT SEE ANYONE IN UFC OR PRIDE OR ANY OTHER ORG. TAKING OUT FEDOR ANY TIME SOON …THE BEST THING FOR THEM TO DO IS WAIT IT OUT LET YOUNG TALENT DEVELOP AND WHEN FEDOR IS LIKE OVER 35 AND PAST HIS PRIME …BEAT HIM AND SAY SEE HES NOT UNBEATABLE TILL THEN …THERE IS NO HOPE …. SO ALL YOU COUTURE,GONZAGA SYLVIA, ARLOVSKI LOVERS OUT THERE GIVE IT UP ….YOUR BEST SHOT AT TAKING OUT FEDOR IS EX-PRIDE FIGHTERS SAD TO SAY …AND JOSH BARNETT IS A FRIEND OF FEDOR …SO YOUR BEST HOPE NOG AND HES 0-3 SO JUST WAIT IT OUT HATERS …JUST 5 MORE YEARS AND HIS REIGN WILL BE OVER …

Quite a bold statment and opinion you might want to pay your deductible down on your insurance for in the future when the doctor has to remove your foot from your mouth. Fedor will lose eventually i guaruntee it. and i think Fedor is great! Oh and i dunno if you know but i tihnk your Caps Lock is on.

Friends fight in MMA all the time.

I seriously doubt that any current HW can beat Fedor. But let’s not be jerks and attack people just because they post their personal opinions here in this forum.

Oh if only Fedor wouldnt have gotten cut We would have seen Couture and Fedor fight.

Quite a bold statment and opinion you might want to pay your deductible down on your insurance for in the future when the doctor has to remove your foot from your mouth. Fedor will lose eventually i guaruntee it. and i think Fedor is great! Oh and i dunno if you know but i tihnk your Caps Lock is on.

Oh if only Fedor wouldnt have gotten cut We would have seen Couture and Fedor fight.

WHAT IS COUTURE YOUR DADDY …? WHY ARE YOU PUTTING UP DELUSIONAL SHIT ABOUT A 50YR OLD MAN …? HES WASHED UP FACE IT …FEDOR WOULD HAVE WOOPED HIS ASS YEARS AGO AND HELL WOOP HIS ASS NOW…

FEDOR IS NOT MY FAVORITE FIGHTER ROGER HUERTA IS ….

AND YOUR THE BOLD ONE …SAYING SUCH A BOLD STATEMENT THAT “OH HE IS GONNA LOSE” NO SHIT SHERLOCK EVERYONE LOSES …!! WHY DONT YOU SAY WHO HE IS GONNA LOSE TO ..? LET ME GUESS YOUR GONNA SAY BROCK LESNER NEXT RIGHT ..

I like Randy how can anyone not but him against Fedor,I cant see him beating Fedor ever no matter what.
When Fedor eventualy gets beat I believe it will be by KO and Randys not gonna be the one to do it.Randy is a grat American fighter but Fedor is the greatest fighter in the world and you only have to watch his fights and watch Randys fights with an open mind and you will very quickly come to the conclusion that Fedor would destroy Randy and probably very quickly.
I dont think there would be an upset in this one.Fedor is an intelegent fighter and despite his apearence is in extremly good shape.
Randy needs to consentrate on Gonzaga coz thats another fight that I will be conserned for his saftey.
I hope Randy can pull off something special against Gonzaga but if Im honest I cant see it happening.

WHAT IS COUTURE YOUR DADDY …? WHY ARE YOU PUTTING UP DELUSIONAL SHIT ABOUT A 50YR OLD MAN …? HES WASHED UP FACE IT …FEDOR WOULD HAVE WOOPED HIS ASS YEARS AGO AND HELL WOOP HIS ASS NOW…

Man, you always starting stuff dude. I will never count cotour out. That guy has pulled so much shit out of his ass, that I cannot count him up. With that said Fedor will dominate, and would probably end the fight quick.

Later
Chris Valentine

just reading some of these comments and I cant belive how many of you doubt Fedor.Randy is great but my god be real about this Fedor would destroy Randy in every aspect of the fight.People saying it would be fight of the decade yeah right quickest fight of the decade.
The only possible way Randy could win this would be referee stopage due to a cut.

RANDY BEAT FEDOR HA HA YEAH RIGHT,STOP DREAMING RANDY FANS.
KEEP IT REAL!

Heh, the guy with the uppercase letters might be a tad annoying, be he is right about Fedor’s approach to fights. Both Fedor and CroCop train according to the strengths of the opponent (be it a kickboxer, wrestler, MT or whatever guy), but they don’t make gameplans. They feel out the opponent and then adapt their game during the fight. This works well, if you are totally focused – if not: well, we’ve seen CroCop-Gonzaga.

As for this potential match-up, here is a snippet for a interview with Fedor last week:

Q: Are there offers from UFC now?
A: I think there were some to Vadim (manager) but UFC is too narrow and exclusive, so we didn’t take those very seriously. I got a few Bodog fights, it’s over now, so now we’re in talks with Pride.

Now I don’t know who that “Pride” is, they are talking about, since the Pride acquisition is somewhat still in flux inbetween Zuffa and DSE, but apparently the UFC is a no-go to those two, which rules out Couture-Emelianenko or CroCop-Emelianenko II for now.

Quite a bold statment and opinion you might want to pay your deductible down on your insurance for in the future when the doctor has to remove your foot from your mouth. Fedor will lose eventually i guaruntee it. and i think Fedor is great! Oh and i dunno if you know but i tihnk your Caps Lock is on.

WHAT IS COUTURE YOUR DADDY …? WHY ARE YOU PUTTING UP DELUSIONAL SHIT ABOUT A 50YR OLD MAN …? HES WASHED UP FACE IT …FEDOR WOULD HAVE WOOPED HIS ASS YEARS AGO AND HELL WOOP HIS ASS NOW…

AND YOUR THE BOLD ONE …SAYING SUCH A BOLD STATEMENT THAT “OH HE IS GONNA LOSE” NO SHIT SHERLOCK EVERYONE LOSES …!! WHY DONT YOU SAY WHO HE IS GONNA LOSE TO ..? LET ME GUESS YOUR GONNA SAY BROCK LESNER NEXT RIGHT ..

brock lesnar

just kidding

brock lesnar

seriously though fedor is a beast and everyone knows it, but you can never count out randy couture, i’m not saying randy will beat fedor, i’m just saying he can…winning 30 something fights in a row speaks for itself, especially against the competition he’s had, he’s definitely the best there is in any weight class, i think we all just want him in the ufc and to see how some of our guys like randy and gonzaga would do against him…

give brock a couple years of training and fighting experience and he might just beat the top guys like fedor, he has all the tools, he just needs to get more experience

Rocky Marciano

10 years ago Randy would have had a chance. I know he defies the usual age limitations, but Fedor is MILES ahead of anyone Randy’s ever fought. I am 100% a Randy fan (oo-er!!!) but he’d be better off health-wise if this fight didn’t ever happen (which it won’t)
I think Gonzaga will be big trouble for Randy too. He’s very strong and very good on the ground and we’ve all seen his striking.

Fedor has proven multiple times that it takes more than strength and wrestling to defeat him. Between his destruction of Mark Coleman, and his out-classing Kevin Randleman, I think he realizes it and is continuing to improve in that area. Randy Couture isn’t getting any better, and he was never as capable as Mark Coleman, so I doubt he would put up much of a fight.

How can you say Randy was never as capable as Coleman. Coleman is a free style wrestler who shoots in for a takedown where as Randy is a greko roman wrestler, who takes you down from the clinch, BIG difference. An example ,Monson (free style) had problems getting Sylvia down and Randy (greko) took Sylvia down at will. Any fighter today with a good sprall can totally negate a free style wrestlers takedown advantage. How many times has Coleman skidded across the ring on his nose after missing a shoot? Randy will be able to take Fedor down, the question is, will he be able to avoid Fedor’s sick submissions.

Just remember evrybody,Randy always fights better as an under dog.He relishes the position.Words of advice,“never bet against capt America.”

WHO EVER IS ON HERE TRYING TO MAKE A CASE FOR COUTURE OVER FEDOR IS SMOKING THAT GOOD SHIT THAT THEY DONT SELL IN THE U.S. CAUSE WHAT THE HELL HAVE YOU SEEN OUT OF COUTURE THAT EVEN LEADS YOU TO BELIVE THAT HE EVEN HAS A CHANCE WITH FEDOR …? LINDLAND DIDNT EVEN LAND THAT PUNCH THAT CUT FEDOR THE BOTTOM OF HIS GLOVE CUT HIS EYE AND YOU WANT TO SAY HE HAD TROUBLE WITH HIM ..? FEDOR PRETTY MUCH FEELS HIS OPPONENT OUT THEN DECIDES HES GONNA FINISH HIM …AND THATS WHAT HAPPENED TO LINDLAND …COUTURE DOESNT STAND A CHANCE …AT WHAT 50YRS OLD ..?? IS THAT HOW OLD HE IS …COME ON …COUTURE BETTER BE WORRIED ABOUT REALITY LIKE GONZAGA AND NOT FORGETTING TO TAKE HIS CENTRUM DAILY VITAMINS…I LOVE IT HOW THESE GUYS BEAT 1 TOP GUY AND THEN TURN AROUND AND START CALLING OUT THE GUYS WHO HAVE BEATEN EVERYONE THERE IS TO BEAT FOR YEARS …. I DONT SEE ANYONE IN UFC OR PRIDE OR ANY OTHER ORG. TAKING OUT FEDOR ANY TIME SOON …THE BEST THING FOR THEM TO DO IS WAIT IT OUT LET YOUNG TALENT DEVELOP AND WHEN FEDOR IS LIKE OVER 35 AND PAST HIS PRIME …BEAT HIM AND SAY SEE HES NOT UNBEATABLE TILL THEN …THERE IS NO HOPE …. SO ALL YOU COUTURE,GONZAGA SYLVIA, ARLOVSKI LOVERS OUT THERE GIVE IT UP ….YOUR BEST SHOT AT TAKING OUT FEDOR IS EX-PRIDE FIGHTERS SAD TO SAY …AND JOSH BARNETT IS A FRIEND OF FEDOR …SO YOUR BEST HOPE NOG AND HES 0-3 SO JUST WAIT IT OUT HATERS …JUST 5 MORE YEARS AND HIS REIGN WILL BE OVER …

Ya, well I love it when a guy who is supposed to be the best in the world hides out in Bodog like a little girl. A 5 year reign in Bodog is something to be proud of,come on. That one fight contract bullshit is the lamest excuse ever, Fedor knows there are guys in the UFC who can beat him. Monson would’ve been a bad matchup for Fedor and he knew it, that’s why he wouldn’t fight him and instead chose a MW (Lindland). Fedor beat 6 or 7 good guys the rest were cans (look up their records). All the guys you mentioned want to fight Fedor, but he won’t step up to the plate. Your hero has to come to UFC and beat the best to be considered the best other wise if he hides out only the nuthuggers will think he’s the best.

It seems people are ignoring my post. Once again: Fedor said himself, he will most likely sign with K-1 or Pride again, althou Pride now also wants an exclusive contract, so there is still things to work out.

The contract offered by the UFC was unacceptable, as Fedor’s demands have been ignored or not addressed.

So we won’t see Couture-Emelianenko, ever. Yes, I said ever. If it happens, I will eat those words, but until Fedor has a new contract at least 2-3 months will pass and it will be another org. If its K-1, then we see it never. If its Pride, then he might fight at the SuperBowl event, but Randy will either retire until then or have lost the belt. I don’t want to take anything away from Randy, he is a class act and fine athlete, but the new rising MMA fighters are of a new breed.

I like Randy how can anyone not but him against Fedor,I cant see him beating Fedor ever no matter what.
When Fedor eventualy gets beat I believe it will be by KO and Randys not gonna be the one to do it.Randy is a grat American fighter but Fedor is the greatest fighter in the world and you only have to watch his fights and watch Randys fights with an open mind and you will very quickly come to the conclusion that Fedor would destroy Randy and probably very quickly.
I dont think there would be an upset in this one.Fedor is an intelegent fighter and despite his apearence is in extremly good shape.
Randy needs to consentrate on Gonzaga coz thats another fight that I will be conserned for his saftey.
I hope Randy can pull off something special against Gonzaga but if Im honest I cant see it happening.

What? he would destroy Randy like he destroyed Sobral, Schilt and CC in a decision win. I could see Randy finishing all three of these guys so I don’t think it’s a strech to say Randy could give Fedor a fight at the very least.

Ya, well I love it when a guy who is supposed to be the best in the world hides out in Bodog like a little girl. A 5 year reign in Bodog is something to be proud of,come on. That one fight contract bullshit is the lamest excuse ever, Fedor knows there are guys in the UFC who can beat him. Monson would’ve been a bad matchup for Fedor and he knew it, that’s why he wouldn’t fight him and instead chose a MW (Lindland). Fedor beat 6 or 7 good guys the rest were cans (look up their records). All the guys you mentioned want to fight Fedor, but he won’t step up to the plate. Your hero has to come to UFC and beat the best to be considered the best other wise if he hides out only the nuthuggers will think he’s the best.

i agree, he needs to come to the ufc

What? he would destroy Randy like he destroyed Sobral, Schilt and CC in a decision win. I could see Randy finishing all three of these guys so I don’t think it’s a strech to say Randy could give Fedor a fight at the very least.

Sobral was never a heavyweight to begin with. He is a good competitor at LHW and thats it. Schilt? Schilt was never considered a Top5 fighter, I don’t know what good it does to list him at all. And I would hardly say Fedor “destroyed” CC in the decision win. Fedor said numerous times himself that CC was his hardest fight ever. Across the board MMA journalists consider the Top trio to be Fedor, Big Nog and CroCop, regardless of what people might think after the Gonzaga loss. I can’t remember MMAweekly having Randy EVER in their Top3 HW list. For example right now (updated on may 30th) he is still only #5, after, you guessed it, Fedor, Big Nog, Mirko and Josh Barnett. And I absolutely agree with their assessment.

AND YOUR THE BOLD ONE …SAYING SUCH A BOLD STATEMENT THAT “OH HE IS GONNA LOSE” NO SHIT SHERLOCK EVERYONE LOSES …!! WHY DONT YOU SAY WHO HE IS GONNA LOSE TO ..? LET ME GUESS YOUR GONNA SAY BROCK LESNER NEXT RIGHT ..

Yeah your right but you cant consider Fedor the best when he wont fight in the UFC. As Gord stated in his above comment All the top fighters in the UFC want to fight Fedor but he wont step up to the plate. You can hide behind contract disagreements for a long time. And in the end if he does sign with Pride maybe he’s just more comfortable there Because he has done so well in Pride. I cant say who he is gonna lose to the guy hasnt signed with anyone yet. I think he will eventually sign with the UFC. I hope he doesnt sign with K-1.
If Fedor signs with UFC and they put him up against any of the top fighters i think he is gonna have his hands full but maybe he knows this and hence why he doesnt want to sign with the UFC. My second guess for your fav fighter would have been
Gary “Big Daddy” Goodridge. And your CAPSLOCK is still on we are not blind we can read your posts without them having to be supersized.

Not everybody lose’s i know i’m contradicting myself but what about Rocky Marsanio(hope that is spelt right). He is the only heavyweight boxer that has never been beaten.

Yeah but going undefeated in boxing as elusive as it is isnt the same as going undefeated in MMA. Way more ways to lose in MMA so going undefeated your whole career is unbelievable almost.

What? he would destroy Randy like he destroyed Sobral, Schilt and CC in a decision win. I could see Randy finishing all three of these guys so I don’t think it’s a strech to say Randy could give Fedor a fight at the very least.

WHAT IS COUTURE YOUR DADDY …? WHY ARE YOU PUTTING UP DELUSIONAL SHIT ABOUT A 50YR OLD MAN …? HES WASHED UP FACE IT …FEDOR WOULD HAVE WOOPED HIS ASS YEARS AGO AND HELL WOOP HIS ASS NOW…

I didnt put anything up about Couture I just stated Fedor will lose exspecially if he signs with the UFC. He is a great fighter no doubt about that but he is not the best in my opinion until he fights some top UFC talent. Rankings dont mean anything to me. I in no way am saying Randy Couture would or will win in a match against Fedor Emelianenko. But when alot of people are totally writing Couture off like Fedor could just walk thru him i really really really doubt it would be that easy for Fedor.

Yeah your right but you cant consider Fedor the best when he wont fight in the UFC.

Yes you can, especially if he has beaten the #2 and #3 of the world. It’s like the WEC building up a HW fighter with a remarkable WEC-intern record of 20-0-0 and now WEC fans claim, that Fedor can’t call himself the best until he has joined the WEC. I think Fedor and his management are a bit smarter than that.

The only guy who stands up to the system lol. fighters are having contract dissagreements every ten seconds. And its not as easy just taking one fight here or there exspecially if you have an exclusive contract get that exclusive. In which case alot of the top fighters have because these organizations dont want their top fighters going off and getting beat in some other organization. And you can bet Fedor knows this and he doesnt want to be locked in a exclusive contract with the UFC or Pride. And with a possible buy of Pride by UFC owners its really throwing a wrench in him making his decision. I still hope he doesnt go to K-1 that will suck

Yes you can, especially if he has beaten the #2 and #3 of the world. It’s like the WEC building up a HW fighter with a remarkable WEC-intern record of 20-0-0 and now WEC fans claim, that Fedor can’t call himself the best until he has joined the WEC. I think Fedor and his management are a bit smarter than that.

That can be reversed also its like the UFC saying Randy couture is the best in the world. But others saying he isnt the best until he joins Pride and beats Fedor. Without looking at rankings in which case ive stated mean nothing to me its all a matter of opinion. So really saying there not the best until they beat the best still holds true even though its would be fairly tough on a person to fight in every MMA origanization to repel all arguements that they were not the best. Its just not realistic and in which case all you can say is right now Fedor is the best in Pride or right now Couture is the Best HW in the UFC. Being the best in one or even two organizations will never make you the best in the world despite the title World Champion cuz it only makes you world chamion for that specific organization. But i guess thats why people Rely on the Rankings to form infuence their opinions.

its been two years since he fought mirko or big nog and i thought he only beat big nog twice not three times, so yeah he was the best fighter in the world then and probably still is, but we knew it then because he was beating the best guys, but he’s not fighting the top guys anymore and those top guys are in the ufc so he needs to come here, who the top guys are changes all the time in this sport too especially with most of the top guys coming to the ufc and testing themselves against new competition, i mean look at what happened to cro cop, that fight was no fluke, gonzaga looked like the better fighter, anything can happen in the sport and no man is unbeatable, we have to let the fighters fight to determine who is the best, we can’t just go by some stupid rankings that are gonna still rank cro cop in the top three even though he lost convincingly to gonzaga can we? a true champion needs to keep defending his title to remain on top and in a growing sport like this there is new blood coming in all the time with aspirations to be the best, there ARE fighters out there that can and will give fedor some trouble, i’m not saying he’s gonna come to the ufc and lose, he might not ever lose, he might be the greatest of all time, but he needs to keep on fighting to be that, he needs to fight the coutures and the gonzagas and rematch cro cop and keep adding to his legacy because if he doesn’t the what ifs will always be there…he should stop with the petty contract stuff, thats a sorry excuse, i’m sure dana white will give this guy more than enough of what he’s worth, he should give up the T.O. act and sign for a few fights in the ufc, thats where the best fighters are right now and anyone who wants to be the best or claims to be the best needs to go there to prove it, and yes he still has more to prove…

You guys realize that Fedor is PrideFC HW champ since may 2003, right? He defended his title a dozen times or something. In UFC terms he would be called “the twelve time heavyweight champion of the world”. He’s a three time world champion in sambo and also russian champion in his second consecutive year now. His judo is world-class (most people don’t even know this) and since a couple of years he is also training Muay Thai extensively.

He is THE most complete and dominant fighter of the world – period. The only guy who comes to mind with a somewhat similar diversity in martial arts would be GSP, but he’s lacking the mental stability of Fedor, something Randy calls “stoic”.

Again: he is the best in the world, so challengers should come to him, not the other way around.

As for the “Cro Cop lost, so he can’t be Top3 anymore” thing: you guys need to lose the idea that you have to be unbeatable in this sport to be considered top-notch. Everyone can be beaten in whatever fashion. This takes nothing away from prior achievements and to ruin Cro Cops legacy so far he’d have to be submitted by Joe Rogan.

fedor would destroy randy, it would not even be close

i definitely still think cro cop is a top fighter in the world, i’m not a if you lose then your done kind of fan, i have a lot of respect for cro cop and think he is certainly a top hw, i was just trying to point out that anyone can win or lose at anytime and there is always competition out there that aren’t necessarily “ranked” real high, like gonzaga, who are tough match ups for the high ranked fighters, like cro cop…there is no doubt that fedor is the best pound for pound fighter in the world, his record speaks for itself and obviously he’s well trained and a champion in many forms of fighting, i don’t think right now there is a better fighter out there, but saying other guys should go to bodog or k-1 or whatever to fight him is ridiculous, ufc puts on the best shows and has the biggest audience, he needs to come here with the other top fighters, he’s being arrogant and acting like the sport is all about him when its definitely a way bigger picture than that…the ufc will get along just fine and continue to prosper without fedor, but pretty soon he’s gonna run out of guys to fight that are worth a damn, shit he’s already fighting guys 40 lbs. lighter than him, if he’s cool with his legacy how it is now then so be it, but if he wants to continue to be a great champion he’s gonna have to make the move eventually, and i think he will…

I didnt put anything up about Couture I just stated Fedor will lose exspecially if he signs with the UFC. He is a great fighter no doubt about that but he is not the best in my opinion until he fights some top UFC talent. Rankings dont mean anything to me. I in no way am saying Randy Couture would or will win in a match against Fedor Emelianenko. But when alot of people are totally writing Couture off like Fedor could just walk thru him i really really really doubt it would be that easy for Fedor.

if your so smart why dont you tell us all who out there is better than fedor …base it on fact not speculation not well if fedor catches nuemonia or some shit …huh …who..????

he saying he doesn’t know dude because he hasn’t seen him fight those guys yet, don’t you get it? he’s not saying fedor is a chump, he’s saying he wants to see him beat the top ufc guys…

he saying he doesn’t know dude because he hasn’t seen him fight those guys yet, don’t you get it? he’s not saying fedor is a chump, he’s saying he wants to see him beat the top ufc guys…

Big Daddy im not arguing the fact that Fedor is Prides HW champion of the world he is and he is a damn great fighter. And i never said Couture would or could beat Fedor. As Spida said i just want to see him get in there with the UFC’s top guys if he bowls through them then i will be utterly amazed. And Spida has another valid point that the idea of other fighters going to K-1 or bodog to fight him is pretty far fetched. The UFC is the mainstage for MMA right now and if Fedor doesnt jump onboard while they want him its gonna pass him by. I say this Because in my opinion he’s running a greater risk on taking these single fights. If he loses his stock drops you lose enough its gonna be tough to find a decent organization to sign you. At least if he signs a multi fight contract with the UFC even with a loss he’s still gonna have fights on his contract to make up the lost ground. You say Fedor isnt your fav fighter and saying everyone else loves couture but your the one thats adamantly defending Fedor when no one is attacking his credibilty the fact that he is a great HW champ.

I think Fedor is and should be ranked #1 in the world at this very moment. Having said that I still want to see him come fight in the UFC. I mean why wouldn’t you come? Let’s see. Most of the great fighters want to fight the best in the world. Right now almost all of them are in the UFC. (one branch or another) The biggest fan base and therefore dollars are in the UFC. Fights that would cement him as the best alive are in the UFC. Why would he refuse to come?

And Fedor hasnt beat all the top UFC guys cuz most of them if not all of them either never fought Fedor in pride or were never in Pride. Arlovski, Sylvia,Gonzaga these guys have never fought in Pride. I think Vera at HW would be a great match up even though Vera is untested so far.

arlovski sylvia and gonzaga are scrubs sorry to tell you guys …if any of them beat nog then people will see them as true contenders ….till then they are scrubs …

arlovski and gonzaga just beat two of prides top hw’s did they not?

arlovski sylvia and gonzaga are scrubs sorry to tell you guys …if any of them beat nog then people will see them as true contenders ….till then they are scrubs …

Since when is NOG the standard? I would bet on him against these guys, yeah, but what gets me is you guys are also the ones saying, “until they can phase CC, they are chumps” GG in a dominating, non lucky fashion, smashed CC, bested him, bottom line. And all you guys can say is, oh uh, well, he needs to beat NOG now, they are still chumps. Whatever dude, it dosnt matter who they beat your gonna hate them becuae your Pride biased. I would love to see Randy fight Fedor, Fedor would not have the luxury of just outgrappling his opponent anymore, it would be great.
I’m not saying he should go to UFC because he has something to prove, but just because the only people he has not fought and conquered, are the UFC. These UFC guys have already proven they can and will upset your Pride gods, that is why it would be interesting to see Fedor fight Randy, AA, Sylvia, Vera, or Gonzaga.
It’s funny cuz I bet you anything the guy to beat Fedor will end up being a UFC native.

arlovski and gonzaga just beat two of prides top hw’s did they not?

Serious, you Pride guys mention every Pride favored win, but every UFC favored win just goes unoticed?
And if you do happen to notice it, The pride wins are clearly because they are superior better fighters, while the UFC wins are cuz UFC guys got lucky, was a fluke, or the Pride guy had a bad night. Whatever, it ain’t a war of the organizations, its about the fighters.

arlovski sylvia and gonzaga are scrubs sorry to tell you guys …if any of them beat nog then people will see them as true contenders ….till then they are scrubs …

So GG’s dominating defeat of CC meant nothing, but a defeat over NOG, now that would prove it!! HAHA you guys are crazy.

what the hell are you the head cheerleader on randys team …? look man put your pom pom away and get with reality …saying fedor is hiding out in bodog is like saying your mom hides out in my bed ..thats not the case they dont want the commitment…how you gonna knock a guy and he is problably the only guy who stands up to the system and does what is actually better for him ….as time passes and the top fighters keep getting upset and knocked out his value goes up for he is the only fighter that is undefeated and has fought most of the top guys…he is marketable everywhere in the world …what other fighter can do that ..?
what your saying is like talking shit about sugar ray robinson for not signing with don king …. yeah the best fighters are now in ufc period … but is it fedors fault that they signed contracts that dont pay them what their worth…and why dont they go do k-1 or bodog for 1 fight with fedor then come back to ufc…? are you gonna say their hiding out in ufc…?

My thoughts exactly. UFC has the best promotion, however, i have to agree, that the fighter should have the choice to fight where-ever they want, not exclusive to UFC entirely, because that, my MMA buddy’s is not what MMA is about. you want to see the best fighters in the world, well they should all be treated equal, and paid fairly,
Fedor is not hiding out in Bodog, he’s keeping his options open to fight whoever is capable of the challenge, not what Dana White dictates, c’mon MMA is business, and if UFC had signed Fedor, Dana would probably make him fight at least 6 fights before he has a chance to fight for the belt just for the marketability.
As for the topic at hand, Fedor would win in a submission, most likely an armbar, in the second round. fedor is not my fav fighter, but he does have skill and he has proven Sambo can beat bjj, wrestling, strinkers, etc. sambo rules. and if JKD were acceptable, they would kill everone in ufc, pride, or any other promotion.

Some interesting news coming soon, regarding your entire discussion, guys. Give it a week.
Ask yourself this question, would you fight for money or for glory?

Misc thoughts…
Gonzaga is no chump. Kongo’s head is gonna end up in Jenna’s lap. Randy is 3-3 in the last three years, I love him too, but facts are facts. CC is gonna amaze you guys with the way he looks right now, better than during the OWGP. AA is still way overrated. Vera has the talent, but does he still have the head, this is an aweful long layoff.
Small rumor, minimal confirmation and could be wrong on this one, but here it is, Werdum is heading to Cage Rage or Bodog/K-1 alliance. I guess you have to speak english to be the HW champ in the UFC. Gonzaga was gone if CC beat him. Remember what I told you about Dana and ASilva? It’s all about the marketing…
And I cant freaking wait for Shamrock v Baroni! Week and a half away…

Who you pulling for? Shamrock or Baroni?
I hate both those guys, but I think Baroni will win if Shamrock’s performance against Renzo was any indicator. Renzo was schoolin him.

arlovski sylvia and gonzaga are scrubs sorry to tell you guys …if any of them beat nog then people will see them as true contenders ….till then they are scrubs …

That aint true alot of people would disagree with your statement.

And to a point i dont think Arlovski is overated. By knowledgeable fans he gets credit where it is deserved no less no more.

Who you pulling for? Shamrock or Baroni?
I hate both those guys, but I think Baroni will win if Shamrock’s performance against Renzo was any indicator. Renzo was schoolin him.

Frank has got to have about the worse attitude in the business and Phil is a one trick pony who gasses in minutes. Who cares? Personally I find the Paul Buentello vs Carter Williams fight the best on the card. I love Carter as a K-1 fighter but his chin might not be able to take it.

arlovski sylvia and gonzaga are scrubs sorry to tell you guys …if any of them beat nog then people will see them as true contenders ….till then they are scrubs …

Since when is NOG the standard? Whatever dude, it dosnt matter who they beat your gonna hate them because your Pride biased. I would love to see Randy fight Fedor, Fedor would not have the luxury of just outgrappling his opponent anymore, it would be great.

Ding Ding Ding we have a winner! comment containing the most truth award goes to The Anomaly

Serious, you Pride guys mention every Pride favored win, but every UFC favored win just goes unoticed?
And if you do happen to notice it, The pride wins are clearly because they are superior better fighters, while the UFC wins are cuz UFC guys got lucky, was a fluke, or the Pride guy had a bad night. Whatever, it ain’t a war of the organizations, its about the fighters.

And to a point i dont think Arlovski is overated. By knowledgeable fans he gets credit where it is deserved no less no more

Honestly, I too thought AA was who everyone claimed him to be……..until I digested the hard facts. Thor, judging from your various posts (on other subjects as well) you seem like a person of intelligence who thinks things through. Study AA’s record very closely & then digest all of his performances that you are familiar with. I’m not asking you to stop liking him as a fighter, just trying to help you identify where he really stands in the HW line-up.

I like AA enough to almost be called a fan, so there’s no bias in my assesment.

This fight is a must see if it’s ever gonna happen.

RC could be problems for Fedor. First off Captain America can never be counted out. Damn….I would love to see this fight. I’m getting excitedfellas. I think Fedor is coming to the UFC. Whenever Randy gets talking it seems like things start happening. I hope Fedor wants this fight. Wandy will be here soon too

RC could be problems for Fedor. First off Captain America can never be counted out. Damn….I would love to see this fight. I’m getting excitedfellas. I think Fedor is coming to the UFC. Whenever Randy gets talking it seems like things start happening. I hope Fedor wants this fight. Wandy will be here soon too

couture will already be retired by gonzaga before he ever gets a chance at fedor.

Honestly, I too thought AA was who everyone claimed him to be……..until I digested the hard facts. Thor, judging from your various posts (on other subjects as well) you seem like a person of intelligence who thinks things through. Study AA’s record very closely & then digest all of his performances that you are familiar with. I’m not asking you to stop liking him as a fighter, just trying to help you identify where he really stands in the HW line-up.

I like AA enough to almost be called a fan, so there’s no bias in my assesment.

 I know his record isnt great like 12-5 or something and some yet few of his fights could be called impressive. But i think he is fairly young and still could go pretty far in MMA if he just sticks to it and keeps learning. I dont buy that he is the best or even top 5 right now and he isnt my fav fighter but i certainly dont dislike him. But i think if he upped the pace in his fights a little more and just keeps learning he will be a major contender within the next 5 yrs. But i deffinitly know what your saying Machine and i agree he isnt top HW material right now.

AA is top HW material, the only person that ever gave him the tiniest problems ever was Tim Sylvia. His other opponents he has destroyed despite his last match with Werdum. Tim Sylvia just has AA’s numbers that’s all. As for Randy Couture, that guy is like superman when he wants to be. I would never bet against Randy Couture even if he was a 50-1 underdog. Fedor is capable of being beaten, it just hasn’t happened yet. It will happen though, I’m just not sure by whom.

To end this silly debate: Fedor is bored by now fighting humans, as he can’t find a decent challenge anymore. There was a unconfirmed rumor going on, but now there is proof.

A filming crew was about to shoot a documentary about sibiria and by chance taped this very rare moment: the sibirian bear facing his only natural enemy: Fedor Emelianenko

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/267/263072871ac5.gif

There you go, thats the proof that he is unbeatable. :D

“If your undefeated you aren’t fighting the right people” Matt Hughes. I guarantee Fedor WILL lose if he fights long enough, he’s human not super man, probably one of the best fighters in the world pound for pound but someday he’ll lose like everyone else. To me Fedor is obviously a better fighter than Randy but Randy has a chance, to think other wise is delusional. I would love to see this fight and would be rooting for Randy, but would be shocked if he won…..I was shocked when he dominated big Tim. Fedor is a much much better fighter than lumbering Sylvia though but Randy certainly has a chance, at least a punchers chance, unless Fedor IS superman. I remember some on this site laughing at the idea of cro cop losing to gonzaga, and were very arrogant with there opinions and had no tolerance for those who thought otherwise. Still I would love to see the looks on the faces of those who think Fedor is unbeatable when he finally loses.

I just hope Fedor doesn’t lose in some humiliating way like a spinning back fist, 30 seconds into the first round by Shonie Carter.

how do y’all think fedor and gonzaga might go?
One theory is that fedor could only lose by knock out. and he’’d out strike outsmart GG.

GG’s strength on the ground could do what hunt couldn’t. although i don’t think fedor would hang out waiting for GG to tire while attempting submission – especially with elbows allowed. fedor would fight differently.

barnett seems the most likely to beat fedor although fedor would outstrike barnett majorly – and wouldn’t gas like aleks did. barnett can really chute for the takedown though , and wouldn’t be easy for fedor to get out from under if it happened

barnett vs. fedor would be epic – neither would gas and probably no KO

Randy would get picked apart by Fedor. There is nobody in the UFC or PRIDE that can beat him.

My favorite fighters are Shogun and Wanderlei. If they ever fight Fedor that would suck because Fedor would destoy both of them. Fedor is a fuckin machine, all you need to do is watch the fight between him and Randleman. Almost right after Randleman slams Fedor on his neck, Fedor taps out Randleman and doesn’t seem to be hurt. Any other fighter would have got knocked out.

While Fedor is arguably the best p4p fighter today, he has shown vulnerabilities in the past — he has been slammed head-first into the mat by Randleman (who neglected to finish him when he had the chance), and has been put on his back many times (though each time he recovered to win, usually by submission).

Even though I would still give Fedor the edge, fighting Randy (the best p4p wrestler in MMA today, the best clinch for takedown, good striking, never been submitted) in the UFC (in a cage, elbows to the head are legal) can give Fedor problems. If such a fight happens in 2007 (the year of upsets) Fedor could very well be next in line of being upset. Never ever count Randy out.

Being slammed headfirst into the mat, then immediatley bouncin’ back and armbaring Kevin Randleman is why FEDOR- not Randy-Is the best P4P fighter the world…….Also getting put on your back doesn’t mean shit….This is MMA, EVERYBODY gets put on their back, It’s how you come back to win the fight that matters most……

“with his strength and wrestling he could control fedor and try to keep fedor off the top of him where fedor excels” – the spida

thats funny….because fedor “excels” over randy in every aspect including wrestling and will destroy him. couture is the best in the ufc right now but the ufc heavyweights are pathetic compared to the fighters fedor faces. I love what couture has done for the sport and respect his ability but no chance against fedor.

While Fedor is arguably the best p4p fighter today, he has shown vulnerabilities in the past — he has been slammed head-first into the mat by Randleman (who neglected to finish him when he had the chance), and has been put on his back many times (though each time he recovered to win, usually by submission).

What most people don’t see in the Randleman fight is the HUGE knee that Fedor gives Randleman to the top of his head. Can’t really see it cause of the camera angle but thats why randleman doesnt do anything while he’s holding onto fedor after the slam. You can hear his corner say “Randy you ok?”

Would be the ultimate fight, I think Fedor would beat his ass, Im pretty positive of this. Couture is good dont get me wrong but Fedor is on another level if the fight takes place, and Fedor wins everyone will you please shut up. Id love to see Anderson silva fight Roy Jones Jr. and see him beat Jr.s ass up to, HUH.