corey hill reminded me of that crazy black preacher viral video where he kept talking about coming in the name of jesus and the holy spirit.

Ive never seen anyone look so happy to lose.

I wish we could have seen more of Corey, and seen if he could take some actual punishment. He looked really strong, and I also believe that in 6 months to a year with good training he should be a good 155er. He reminds me of Kendal but with far less experience, he seems willing to gain knowledge and he did come out allot better fighter.

As for Diaz, I along with pretty much all the normal commenter’s thought he would take this. I really hope that he can make it to the finals, and although very unlikely I hope he can be Louzon.

As far as Manny goes, all I can say is wow! He really showed that he can hang. Although he small, his his strong as hell. I have to admit that part of me wants to ignore the competition and get Manny in with Cory just to see how funny it would look. He really dominated and did really well.

Well hope next week is just as good, seems to be looking up these last few fights.

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Chris Valentine

I was pretty impressed with Manny. I figured Nate would win but Cory put up a hell of a fight if he knew more about the ground game he might have had a chance to win that fight. Nate has looked promising but nowhere near the caliber of his brother yet. Man i wonder what was the beef between Karo and Nate did anyone else see the promo for next weeks show Karo looked pissed. Cant wait for the finale i dont have a favorite on the show so i dont care who wins i want to see pulver and penn go at it again.

Joe vs. Diaz
Manny vs. Gray
Thats the ideal combo

Joe vs. Diaz
Manny vs. Gray
Thats the ideal combo

I think it should be Joe vs Manny and Diaz vs Gray because I believe Joe and Nate are the two best fighters and would like to see them in the finals.

I think Corey was destroying Nate. Nate’s lucky that Corey is new because if Corey had more experience he wouldnt have gotten into that kamora. Corey was throwing Nate around like Nate was a bitch. as far as Manny go’s, wow…Manny is living proof that size don’t matter. I would ether like to see Joe VS Nate or
Joe VS Manny.

I think Nate is lucky that Corey doesn’t have a lot of experience. Corey was throwing Nate around like he was his bitch. If Corey had more experience he wouldn’t have got in that kamora. As far as Manny go’s…wow. Manny looked great. Manny is liveing proof that size don’t matter. I hope to see Joe Vs Nate or Joe VS Manny for the finals.

It was great to see two fights last night. The show has been drifting off into being a boys school reality series with the horsing around in the house. I was surprised that Cory did so well. He has quite an advantage in stand up because he’s so tall and being a wrestler he’s got the takedown defense. That can be his bread and butter eventually but for the rest of this year he needs juijitsu camp.

And being tall as he is, when he gets some juijitsu, you can imagine how easily he’s going to be able to put triangles on his opponents.

I think Corey looked great. Nate’s lucky Corey doesn’t have a lot of experience. If Corey did he wouldn’t have got into that kamora. As far as Manny go’s…wow he looked great.

Corey was throwing Nate around like a little rag doll. Nice job Corey. You looked much better than last week dude.

lol sorry about all those post. i posted the first one and it didnt show up. so i posted again and it didnt show again. so i posted the last 2 and they all showed. my bad lol.

Wiman swung at air at least 3 or 4 times last night. He was anticipating Manny coming in but he couldn’t actually see because he was covered up. As he gets more experience I guess he’ll be able to ignore stuff like the cut over his eye. I assume that’s why he was hiding out. I don’t remember his previous fight and whether he was that timid then.

I think Manny has the tools to put em all asleep. Sure hes the “Small” guy but they all weigh the same. He may be short but they all prettymuch grapple so its not that much of a deal, they will all comply with going to the ground.

It looks like it will be blue vs blue and yellow vs yellow, next week. I think Dana is trying to set up the Joe vs Nate fight, and use the Nate and Karo spat as a reason…

Cory owned Nate and I Think if Cory would have kept to the program and not stay on the ground with him it would be much different set of fights for next week.

Grey is good but Joe is an auto in. Manny vs Nate, Manny will win if they fight the same as they did this week. Manny stayed low and kept busy the whole time on the ground, didnt give his opponent a chance to gain composure.

It will be interesting to see Karo and Nats spat. I think Nate is biting off more than he can chew.

Diaz looked pitiful last night. Lauzon will roll through the final 2 fights.

Manny fought a good fight..at the weigh ins Matt looked like he was trying to psyche himself up..and got psyched out..dude Karo was in Manny’s corner..Matt was thinking s$%$^t..I had a feeling Manny was going to beat him anyway..Now Corey vs Nate..Tuff fight I gave the first round to Coery without a doubt..much more aggresive than his last fight..his height and reach was given Nate problems..Nate won but if they fight again like a year from now..it would e a different ending.

I enjoyed this episode..now what happens between Karo and Nate…Hhhmmm well one week to find out.

It looks like Gray vs Lauzon in the finals..100% BJ Blue..with 2 yellows and 2 blues left..do they cross and match or have them fighter each other…let’s see.

manny all the way

Matt looked like he was trying to psyche himself up..and got psyched out..

That is exactly what happened.

Nate looked good for a kid facind a guy that was 6" taller with a 36" reach advantage. I think we all figured it would end via sub. At one point it looked like a he was gonna gogo him!

How come they acted like Karo just showed up, when he’s been seen on camera at every fight the last three weeks?

I wont spoil anything for you guys, but the next two weeks are gonna be awesome.

Im not sure about Corey and Nate fight being ‘good’ to be honest… on the feet they were both sloppy and not really well verst in fighting. That being said though, Corey’s natural size was VERY dominant over Diaz… who isnt that much smaller. Nate got off the submission.. finished an ugly fight. Corey has a lot of talent, might work into a great 155-170lb fighter.

Wiman wasnt in that game from the word go. He looked weak, intimidated, with no game plan. Manny basicaly imposed his will without much resistance from Wiman. Manny is a powerful guy, seems to be a good fighter, but doesnt seem like he has what it takes to finish the fight. I dont see him beating Lauzon or Diaz, but definitely Grey.

Karo looked like the selfcentered ego maniac that he has been leading up to the passed few monthes. Should be good with Diaz’ GANGSTA style.

Diaz looked pitiful last night. Lauzon will roll through the final 2 fights.

Nates brother Nick was knocking out the likes of Robbie Lawler at 21, Nate Diaz at 22 is way below his brother at this point in his career. I thought he was absolutely horrible, and did the first fight too, and there is no doubt the Joe Lauzon will walk right through the remaining few.

Damn, I wanted to see what happened with nate and karo. I freaking hate it when nate is trying to fight someone and he puts that stupid “pissed off” look on his face. It likes like he just ate some nasty baby food. He starts flexing his bony structure, its funny.

I used to Like Nick Diaz and so I was really hyping Nate. The more and more I look at it though, they seem like trashy thugs to me now. I just dont think Karo would have initiated the confrontation but I could be wrong. Nate isn’t the caliber of his brother so it would prob. wouldn’t be a good idea to mess with Karo.

Matt is another fighter that didn’t listen to BJ during the fight. I’m pretty sure I saw him closing his eyes while he was throwing punches and I thought I heard BJ saying,“Look where you’re hitting”. Matt should have been jabbing Manny from start to finish. Nate is lucky that he got past Corey. Manny’s size could be awkward for Joe, but I’m sure Joe will use it to his advantage. I thought Nate would give Joe a battle, but after last night I see that Joe would take him to school. That leaves Gray, who seemed very gassed at the end of his fight with Brandon. As I have stated from the beginning,“Joe the Giant Killer Lauzon” stands alone when the dust clears.

Which viral video you talking about Ransdell? I must have missed that one.

Karo is a punk. Real tough guy goin after 155 pounders and trying to get his tv time. I would like to see Gray vs Nate and Joe vs Manny.

I think you guys are being to harsh on Nate Diaz. He faced an oppoent that even probably never saw before a 6’4 monster at 155. Come on how well did u think his stand up is goin to be.

I dont like manny for some reason even though he did a great job, and im rooting for little evils team to do better.. i dont know i just dont like him.

>>Diaz looked pitiful last night. Lauzon will roll through the final 2 fights.

Oh how wrong we are, Manny vs Nate in the final.

I would have rather seen nate vs matt and Cory vs Manny.

Ive never seen anyone look so happy to lose.

I too want to see my two favorites in the finale, Nate vs Joe. But Manny is a beast. The previews for next week looks like Dana wants to have it by Joe vs Gray and Nate vs Manny. I don’t like this idea, even though it would ensure that each coach has someone in the finals. But the two coaches are competitive and want both their guys in the finals and more importantly, I think its a bad idea to have to have to fight against your teammate, unless there is no other option. I think that Joe would have a better chance at beating Manny. So the matchups I want to see are Joe vs Manny and Nate vs Gray. Then hopefully this would lead to a Joe vs Nate showdown at the finale

The Manvil looked indestructible against wiiman, and if the in-team fights are on for next round Nate is going to get wrecked. Doesn’t seem that Nate could hang standing or on the ground. The real war is going to be Manny, Lauzon. It was funny hearing Dana comment on Manny’s height when sherk and franca are listed at 5’6".

- now only if Manny could grow a long beard like Jim Neidhart back in the hart foundation days……

Jesse!
Great write-up again! 5 points for insouciant, 5 more for Footprints in the Sand and 100 points for the Danny Torrance reference. Great stuff.

there is no doubt the Joe Lauzon will walk right through the remaining few.

What is there to say…..

Jesse!
Great write-up again! 5 points for insouciant, 5 more for Footprints in the Sand and 100 points for the Danny Torrance reference. Great stuff.

I was thinking the same thing! I had to look up “insouciant” in the dictionary.

I missed BJ screaming, too. I’ve never been to a live event and I’ve always wondered what the guys in the corner could be saying.

Right up until he got controlled on the ground by Diaz, Corey was looking pretty damn good.

And right up until…..wait, Wiman never really looked that good. I don’t know much, but when you’ve got a guy like BJ Penn in your corner yelling “look at what you’re hitting” LISTEN TO HIM. Wimans punches looked like they might have something to them, if he’d landed a few more.

I’m trying to work “insouciant” into my comments, but I just can’t!

Corey needs his whole game tooled. He doesn’t use his height and has no ground game. He will be a work in progress, but with his size, he could make some waves.
I was so disappointed with Wiman. What happened to the fighter we saw against Spencer Fisher? In that fight he showed good BJJ, a willingness to trade. I had him winning before the flying knee.
I am really surprised by the lack of conditioning ALL these fighters have shown.

I have a friend that went to miletich camp and Corey Hill is working wit them and Jens Pulver is really coaching him. The man will be a beast soon.

Jesse!
Great write-up again! 5 points for insouciant, 5 more for Footprints in the Sand and 100 points for the Danny Torrance reference. Great stuff.

Thanks brother…for all the people who Emailed me…Danny Torrance was the little boy from “The Shining” who had an imaginary friend named Tony.

Now if only we could get Corey to do that finger thing when he channels Buddy…

Dana White feels that Nate vs Joe is the best marketable final. I belive that Nate would have a really hard time with gray’s ground game if the fight with corey is any evidence. Joe can beat any of the 3 remaining guys if he brings he’s A game. Thats why Dana proposes that Manny fights Nate and Joe fights Gray because it gives Nate the best shot to get to the finals (and lose). Joe will beat gray…it will be a war though, but i’ve got a gut feeling that Manny is going to pull off the upset on Nate. Manny’s got guts and seams to want the win way more than Nate.It’s going to be fun either way.

This opinion is pretty ignorant. I really doubt Karo hasnt got a tile shot due to his attitude. Like 50% of fighters in the UFC are arrogant so get used to it. And in the promo for next weeks show it didnt show who stsrted the spat between Karo and Nate. You are just assuming it was Karo because you dislike him. There is alot of good competition in his WC and his loss to Diego is probably hindering him getting a title shot. And it seems like you like Hughes alot which i do to but he’s a known egofreak and Karo still has a chance with him in the cage. One things for sure in MMA nothings a given But your opinion is your opinion albeit a shallow one.

Sorry UFCMania i cleaned up my post.

“Ive never seen anyone look so happy to lose.”

I was thinking the same thing at first and then I figured that Corey probably went into that fight expecting to get completely tooled by Nate who is much more experienced and has the skills. I bet Core knew he would eventually get submitted by Nate since there’s no way he could put together an effective ground game with only a few weeks training. So I’m thinking that Corey was all smiles simply because he completely owned Nate and was winning that fight in a big way right up until the submission.

  “On a personal note, I missed hearing BJ yell instructions from outside the cage.”

Jesse, I couldn’t disagree with you any more. It took me a minute or two to figure out why the Diaz/Hill fight had a completely different athmosphere/“feel” to it than all the other fights did. It had a more focused and less chaotic feel to me. Then I realized it was because BJ’s repetetive and piercing voice wasn’t completely bogarting the audio feed. I found it a very pleasant break to get to see a fight without BJ’s corner voice.

Sorry i quoted a post that got deleted so now i look crazy talking about something that isnt posted.

I wonder if the Karo, Nate fight will effects the trainging for manny and Nate. I know if someone was going to fight my cousin, I would want to woop ass not train with them. Just thought I might add that in.

My boy Matt lost last night i feel so sad!!!! Meow . is he still goin to fight in the octagon, cause i think he is to handsome to fight. MEOW.

I was impressed with corey, he looked much better than his last one and was, my opinion beating diaz until he got caught. You can tell hes a better wrestler than diaz but he looks like he doesnt know much about submissions. Matt on the other hand disappointed me, I thought he would do much better, Manny is a beast, I think technically Matt is the better fighter but he seemed like he couldn’t control Manny’s power. It would be interesting to see what next week has in store.

Good fights I thought Matt would do better than he did, and I was surprised at how well Corey did until he got caught. Manny will be tough to beat the man is a little beast with so much raw power. It will be interesting to find out what happens next week, should be good.

The preview had Dana saying he wants teammate vs teammate. If that is what happens, it’s gonna be
Nate vs Manny
Gray vs Joe
Personally, i feel Manny is gonna win it all the way. The Lightweight champ, Sherk is almost the same 5’5 so height doesn’t count, plus before his first fight he said smthg i really liked, “I haven’t fought for 2 yrs now, I’M HUNGRY!” That’s all u need to win the show.

If Manny does win it I doubt he’ll be able to hang with the muscle shark, I think sherk will be too much for him. I can’t see diaz stopping Manny, his last performance was pretty lame, Manny will probably toss him around like a rag doll.

i dont care who wins i want to see pulver and penn go at it again

Same here but I’ve got a gut feeling that this rematch will pale in comparison to their 1st meeting.

me personally, i cant stand either of the diaz brothers. nick is a punk and nate is overrated because of his name. if you go back and watch corey/nate fight from last night you’ll see, nate looked like absolute garbage. again this is just my opinion. i picked manny on the poll on here, but don’t sleep on grey, if he didn’t run 10 miles before his fight he’d be a force to be reckoned with for any of the remaining fighters.

Corey did a little better because his jitters we’re gone. That was the best he had though. Why do you think he was so happy after?

I think Corey destroyed Nate. i think Nate’s just a punk. i don’t think he or his brother are really good fighters. and i saw a few of you saying Corey looked sloppy? Corey was throwing Nate around like Nate was a little bitch. Corey is just unexperienced now and a year from now i think if there’s a Corey Nate rematch i think Corey will destroy Nate. Corey just was to inexperienced to see the kamora coming is all. the reason i thin Corey was happy was because he knew he fought a good fight and him a Nate where friends and to him it didn’t really matter. He knows he has improved a lot since the first day and he will have a great career in the UFC in the future. All in all Corey looked great in that fight. and Nate…he looked like a puss.

Xtramust quoted Manny saying,“I haven’t fought for 2 yrs now, I’M HUNGRY!” then stated,“That’s all u need to win the show.”
If all you needed was Hunger then Gabe the fat bastard would have went all the way. No, I think skill is a bigger factor.
Imagine what Corey Hill would have done if he trained under BJ and actually learned some BJJ. The smart fighter’s, the actual students of the game, would have kept their hands raised to be on BJ’s team at the very beginning.

what was dana talkin bout when he said manny is too small, if your shorter it just means you can fit more muscle on your frame and still make the weight. the top 2 at lightweight at the moment i think are sherk and stevenson, and there both shorth powerhouses, not long and skinny like most of the guys on this show

Top 2 would probably be Sherk and Franca. And i dont see how being short means ya can pack more muscle on your frame and still make weight. Muscle weighs the same for a short guy as it does for a taller guy. They looked ripped because of their height on a guy thats 5.5" 155 pds of muscle makes em look stacked you put 155 pds of muscle on a guy thats 6.5" and he isnt looking that ripped. So by looks it can be decieving. And taller guys have maybe just a tiny weight disadvantage maybe. Just look at Hill that guys ripped like a stick lol Great tone and definition but not what you would consider a powerhouse but if he was 5.5" he would look stacked.

Muscle weighs the same for a short guy as it does for a taller guy. They looked ripped because of their height on a guy thats 5.5"³ 155 pds of muscle makes em look stacked you put 155 pds of muscle on a guy thats 6.5"³ and he isnt looking that ripped. So by looks it can be decieving.

Yeah, tall guys get close to the same mass of muscle, but a muscles strength is roughly proportional to it’s cross sectional area, not it’s mass, the short guys have an advantage in muscle tension development due to this. Also, tall guys need to develop more torque at the joint to get the same load at the end of the limb, this means that their muscles need to contract harder to get the same force at the point of application, this is another strength advantage to the short guys…