good fight. will be interesting to see how everything turns out. think wandy wants the title? have a feeling might see him back before 2008 either for the hendo rubber match or to give rampage a 3rd beating

I got excited about this last night, but I think it was the adrenaline rushing through my body. I’m not real excited about it anymore. Hendo is on the downward turn right intil he beat a sick and dehydrated Wandy. Page is gonna kill him.

They need to sign Denis Kang. Who was cornering last night, cant remember who though. Help me out guys.

I got excited about this last night, but I think it was the adrenaline rushing through my body. I’m not real excited about it anymore. Hendo is on the downward turn right intil he beat a sick and dehydrated Wandy. Page is gonna kill him.

They need to sign Denis Kang. Who was cornering last night, cant remember who though. Help me out guys.

cant remember if it was kalib starnes or din thomas

who did tito corner?

Any luck so far with the mail MTUFC? I’m afraid in a couple of hours the invitation might expire and I dunno when I’ll get a new one. :/

cant remember if it was kalib starnes or din thomas

It was Din Thomas. But even thou Rogan was excited as a stripper on Liddells lap, no one seemed to recognize him or be curious about D. Kang. He is one of the most promising fighters I’ve seen in years. Talking about promising fighters: the kid that “lost” to Din Thomas (since when do referees call submissions?) has enormous potential. I can’t imagine what that 21 y/o would have done on the current TUF season. Hope he gets another chance.

who did tito corner?

Salaverry.

who did tito corner?

Tito cornered Ivan Salaverry.

a few thoughts…

so much for keeping pride a separate entity. is it going to be for japaneese fighters only or is it gonna turn into the minor league? zuffa is bringing everyone over apparently. who else would they want that hasnt come over? shogun is in the bag. im sure wandy is on his way in 08 (maybe sooner).

i love hendo, but this is gonna be so stupid watching all the newbs jump on the bandwagon. mtu posted it earlier but i really think he is on the tail end of his career. dont really see the point of putting him up against the likes of rampage, chuck, randy, or even a healthy wandy. if zuffa wants to make some cash off him. let him come in a 185 and try to clean up that division.

although i love the pub the ufc is getting, its actually a little sad to me that im gonna have to sit in bars and listen to guys talk out their ass about the ufc. all i can say is that i have been here since ufc 3. was impressed with the rogan spot on sportscenter. not getting pushed around by the “big name” broadcasters. giving props to great ground game and submissions. sweeps and throws are my favorite part of the game. just hope the true mma’ers dont get lost in the mainstream bs.

Tito cornered Ivan Salaverry.

good fight. will be interesting to see how everything turns out. think wandy wants the title? have a feeling might see him back before 2008 either for the hendo rubber match or to give rampage a 3rd beating

Styles make fights & on paper, these 2 make for an exciting, match up. It could end as suddenly as QRJ vs CL II, again in QRJ’s favor but I’m hoping it goes atleast 2 rounds. All Rampage has to do is train as seriously as he did for Chuck & its an automatic win.

I guarantee the common logic among the forums for most will be that since Hendo beat Wand & Wand beat Rampage then Hendo should automatically win this fight. It’s very unfortunate that this logic is completely wrong in this particular case because many have an inaccurate info on both fighters.

Despite his stellar record & incredible performances overall, the QRJ we saw in Pride was never anywhere near reaching his true potential (scary aint it?). He has stated on many occasions that Pride rarely treated him well, his training was constantly off & that many of his fights were given on short notice. A perfect example of this was back in 2003 when after beating Chuck, Page went on that same night to face a fresh Wand. After losing to Wand, Page wanted a re-match asap. Pride put that on the shelf & didnt come calling for the re-match until 2 weeks away from the fight. To a man struggling with his finances, trying to care for family back in the US & looking to redeem himself in the ring, turning that fight down is not an option. Despite being under-trained, Page was able to give Wand a war before losing that fight.

I firmly believe that a fully prepared QRJ will beat Wand any day in the Octagon. Pages only weaknesses against Wand & Shogun was the Muai Thai Clinch. Page had no idea at the time how to defend it. All that needs to be done to correct that is trainig. I cant see how Page could not have closed that hole in his game since then. Especially since all it would take to close that hole is not a matter of natural ability but of adequate training. Also, without the soccer kicks & with the added use of elbows mixed into the equation, QRJ has the advantage.

I also believe that even as good as Hendo is, Hendo cannot beat a fully prepared & healthy Wand. See where i’m going with this? A healthy Wand can definately beat Hendo (he already did in their 1st fight) & a fully prepared Page alongside the addition of the cage, elbows to the face & the removal of soccer kicks can definately defeat Wand.

My opinion..Rampage would destroy Henderson.." Oh but henderson beat Silva and Jackson didn’t yaadaayaadaa" They set up that fight..rampage is alot heavier..extremely aggresive..I just don’t see Dan beating him now.

There is going to be no one left in Pride if it keeps going on this way. I wonder what intentions Zuffa really has for Pride cause they are taking all the best fighters. There will be no need for a MMA superbowl cause everyone will be in the UFC if it keeps going this way.

Relax guys. Hendo is a Pride fighter. He is not exclusive to the UFC. The easiest part of the due diligence during the Pride buy were all the guys already under contract, like Hendo. Its all the PSCs that “seem” to still be holding it up. Rumor is now that the deal is done, but who the f knows.

And yes, YTed. I’m in. Different site that the TT I have used in the past. Thanks a ton. :D

Hendo vs Rampage? Id love to see it. Rampage showed a lot of composure lastnight (just watched the fight) – However, Hendo is a true scienetist of MMA. Is he as strong as Rampage? Definitely not, but as we saw against Wandi, you dont need to be strong…

MMA is becoming much more of a science then anything else… Look at how our sport is changing.

Hendo will beat rampage and then lose to Shogun and Babalu will make his way up the ladder and beat Shogun again… then chuck will destroy Renato for the third time

Definitely not, but as we saw against Wandi, you dont need to be strong…

Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe Wand was diagnosed with strep throat just before their 2nd fight at Pride 33 & was just in the hospital the day before. I’m not making excuses (& neither did Wand) but think about how you feel whenever you are truly sick with something & ask yourself if you could honestly perform anywhere near your physical best, especially in an MMA match against an Olympic level competitor. The odds are instantly stacked against you.

For those that may be unaware, Strep Throat symptoms consist of the following:

Headache
Abdominal (lower stomach) pain
Fever
General discomfort, feeling ill or uneasy
Loss of appetite and nausea
Muscle pain
Joint stiffness
Skin rash

Now imagine fighting Hendo while dealing with all of these symptoms. I say Wand performed very well despite the circumstance.

Hendo will beat rampage and then lose to Shogun and Babalu will make his way up the ladder and beat Shogun again… then chuck will destroy Renato for the third time

i like your thinking and i wish it would happen, Rua/Sobral II
is bound to happen the only think i dunno for sure is if Hendo will beat Rampage, but it would be sweet to hold three belts and in two different countries

Hendo vs Rampage? Id love to see it. Rampage showed a lot of composure lastnight (just watched the fight) – However, Hendo is a true scienetist of MMA. Is he as strong as Rampage? Definitely not, but as we saw against Wandi, you dont need to be strong…

MMA is becoming much more of a science then anything else… Look at how our sport is changing.

Hendo is extremely strong, argualbly the strongest at 185, its just taht, so is Rampage, except at 205. I think just pure strength wise these guys are aguably the strongest in there divisions. I see Rampage dominating Hendo, but Hendo killing every 185’er out there.

sorry about the quote some dude said hendo will beat rampage then hendo will lose to rua then babalu beat rua again then chuck beat babalu for the third time

Wandy is the man i just hope he come back earlier than he plans and i think he will now that page is the champ he will want to beat him down again and take the belt

Wandy is the man, i dont think he can beat Chuck but it should make a great match and im ready to see it

i think the hendo fight i most want to see is against “ace”

The Pride acquisition is complete. 0 done.

BJM confirmed that Liddell was unconscious.

The UFC is actively pursuing Fedor to resign.

That should be 100 per cent done.

The Pride acquisition is complete. 0 done.

BJM confirmed that Liddell was unconscious.

The UFC is actively pursuing Fedor to resign.

What is that bit about Fedor? Resign from Pride Championship? So there HW title would be vacant? Shoot there really taken it to Pride. That would be awsome though, like I said, keep puttin everyboyd into one Org., and I’m happy.

What is that bit about Fedor? Resign from Pride Championship? So there HW title would be vacant? Shoot there really taken it to Pride. That would be awsome though, like I said, keep puttin everyboyd into one Org., and I’m happy.

Machine i dont jock nobody. But man you know your shit. All yall need to peep machines logic cause he is right on point damn near everytime i see one of his post. Even if you are wrong in your predictions of the fights, you make sense from a fighting standpoint on your comments.

If Fedor fights anyone in the ufc heavyweight division and he is focused as he usually is. I promise you he will be ufc champ. CL saying on some show he eventually wanted a piece of Fedor, sounds great to his fans, because he comes off as being fearless. To chuck and all of his fans that is just plain stupidity. Fedor would dismantle CL.

Interesting Fight! But I think Rampage has a slight advantage…

I think Hendo is only coming across for this fight, after UFC71 he said he was only contracted for this one fight. He also made it clear that he would keep his two pride belts if he lost (well he’d only lose the LHW one). If he wins he might stay for another.

Hopefully this will mean fighters are able to quite easily switch between the organisations, on a contract by contract basis. I don’t think its good for the sport if one organisation monopolises it, I think theres equal merit in both formats.

Hopefully this will mean fighters are able to quite easily switch between the organisations, on a contract by contract basis. I don’t think its good for the sport if one organisation monopolises it, I think theres equal merit in both formats.

This is what the purchase, so far, has meant to me. At the end of the day, all the fighters are contracted to Zuffa, one way or another. I’m sure every contract from here on out will be written with this in mind.

with the way rampage was drooling over dan henderson’s pride belts, they should each put up a belt in this fight, that way we’d have a unanimous champ at that division, then rampage could defend his title in both organizations, that would be crazy, especially if they still plan on making the divisions the same in both orgs.

i would like to see chuck and rampage 3, but first i want rampage to lose the belt to henderson. rampage hit chuck hard and he went down, hendo has a granit chin and superb wrestling. style wise this is a bad fight for rampage. i look to see this fight sometime between sept. and nov.

Interesting Fight! But I think Rampage has a slight advantage…

and i think youre stupid, you must not watch a lot of mma

i would like to see chuck and rampage 3, but first i want rampage to lose the belt to henderson. rampage hit chuck hard and he went down, hendo has a granit chin and superb wrestling. style wise this is a bad fight for rampage. i look to see this fight sometime between sept. and nov

Actually, style-wise, this is a great fight for Rampage. Hendo is by no means a push-over but in every aspect except the wrestling, Rampage has the advantage. Also, Rampage is definately stronger than Hendo & his strength advantage will be the equalizer against Hendo’s superior wrestling.

and i think youre stupid, you must not watch a lot of mma

i think that rampage will not hold the title long ,someone will beat him soon ,not that i dont think he is a good fighter .he is not going to be a great champion,much likeGSP his riegn will be very short.jacksons gang banger image and attitude show a lack of respect ,for the fans , the sport and other fighters he will be forgotten soon enough as achampion. anyone can be a tough punk ,but his mouth will be his downfall if dana white isnt careful guys like jackson and ortiz will make the ufc (the wwf) OF MMA what a joke that will be.

When I saw this Hendo guy walk into the ring and they announced he would be next for Rampage, I was like “Who is this little shrimp?” What’s he gonna do, bite Rampage’s leg? This Hendo guy looks like a little troll compared to Rampage, and where’d he get those belts again? Was it down at Kmart? Hendo will end up being Rampage’s cell bitch and this fight will be over fast. Do not spend your money on this fight, Rampage will waste this guy faster then Liddell. Hendo who?

I don’t care if I don’t know who Hendo is. Just by the looks of him, I don’t know why they would even think about putting this matchup together. Even if Rampage never wrestled a day in his life, he has so much more natural size than this little man. Hendo better get on a cycle now and start drinking some protein shakes, because he’s going to need it. I can’t see him taking one shot from Rampage. He better have one unbelievable ground game and hold on for his damn little troll life!

Machine i dont jock nobody. But man you know your shit. All yall need to peep machines logic cause he is right on point damn near everytime i see one of his post. Even if you are wrong in your predictions of the fights, you make sense from a fighting standpoint on your comments

Dadubsta, thanks man, I really appreciate your shout-out so to speak. Judging by the posts I’ve read from you, you’re obivously very knowledgable yourself :)

I do have some personal knowledge of fighting & MA but I’ve learned alot about MMA mostly from listening & watching from a completely un-biased point of view. I’ve learned a lot here at this sight (i was only reading the posts for a while before i starting posting myself) from guys like MTU, Spida, YT’d, MMA Dude, Jason Bang & many other posters (sorry if I left out any names). There are alotta guys here that really know their stuff. Even if I dont always agree with whoever, I do listen to what they have to say because they just may have a valid point & I just may learn something new.

Oh yeah, I do get a little carried away with my predictions like, “I see it ending in the 3rd round via TKO”. I cant help it though, this MMA thing gets my adrenaline going!

the ufc at last has the second best fighter in the world.henderson has never been knocked even against heavyweights the likes of nog and feders brother I dont see jckson winning or ko ing henderson white does not want jackson holding the title thats why henderson is fighting him white really does not want henderson in the ufc either because at the lower weights would be almost impossable to beat.but henderson can do what no one else in the world can do fight from 170 to heavy and win belts at each weight I belive even at heavy right now he could beat couture look at what just happened to lidell.evryone of the great ufc champions seem to get there asses kicked

What did I tell you all? The “Hendo is the greatest” bandwagon just pulled up. To bad it’s destined for Bodog or Elite or K-1. Or he could just stay in the UFC/Pride and be a gatekeeper for a few more years. This dude is done. He’s been done. Get over it, ppl.

never been knocked out holds two belts fights guys like nog and feders brother takes everyone down he faces and hits harder than jackson or couture whats jackson going to do when he get ground and pounded lets see some one beat him at 185 or 170 oh yea he holds two title belts does anyone else

I want to see Hendo fight matt hughes at 185!! you heard it here first!

hits harder than jackson

I stopped reading right here.

whats jacksons ko percentage I dont belive he has ever knocked out a heavyweight or hurt a heavyweight henderson hurt nog in both fights with his right and took him down I dont belive jackson has alot of good fights with any heavyweights how meany ufc faverates have been winning how meany bad fights has dan henderson had in his career how meany short fights has henderson the answer is none all of hendersons have went a long time jackson cannot say this and jackson has been knocked out henderson has not henderson will fight anyone and has proven his time in pride taking the emanlinko fight with last scecond notice

never been knocked out holds two belts fights guys like nog and feders brother

Hendo has never fought Alexander Emelianenko. He did fight Nog & won via decision the 1st time they met. Unfortunately, Hollywood could not muster up another win in either of their next 2 re-matches. Nog beat Hendo both times via armbar.

Get your facts in order next time before you start runnnin’ off at the mouth. You only discredit yourself when you do that.

henderson did fight fight alexander in an exibition in his early days in pride a two rounder and did vary well and in those fights with nog he lasted a long time and took him down evertime he faced him and hurt him with a right on the stand up

henderson did fight fight alexander in an exibition in his early days in pride a two rounder and did vary well and in those fights with nog he lasted a long time and took him down evertime he faced him and hurt him with a right on the stand up

I’m not trying to discredit Hendo at all, I think he’s a Top Tier fighter without a doubt. I’m not hating on his performances either, the guys a born scrapper.

I want to see Hendo fight matt hughes at 185!! you heard it here first!

id liek to see that fight as well, i think it would be one of the most exciting fights in ufc history, both outstanding wrestlers. so id be interesting to see what the other would do

Hendo would destroy matt hughes at 185 or 170, but it wont happen after the terror retires him. Hendo would fight anyone, but i think RPJ is a bad matchup for him since he got with De La Hoyas old trainer. If he is focused, i think people will come to see that the destruction of CL was the real page…

Theres no record of Hendo fighting Aleks on any Pride card. Its also worth noting its Lil’Nog the LHW he’s faught and lost to, no HW on his record. When you look at his record over the last year (loss to Misaki, a decision against Belfort.) its hard to see how he got a title shot at Silva.

As for a prediction, I think it will go to a decision, probably Rampage, both have got tough skulls. I can’t imagine a quick finish.

Actually, style-wise, this is a great fight for Rampage. Hendo is by no means a push-over but in every aspect except the wrestling, Rampage has the advantage. Also, Rampage is definately stronger than Hendo & his strength advantage will be the equalizer against Hendo’s superior wrestling.

Bottom line, Henderson is getting in over his head here. Rampage will show he belongs at middle weight.
However, I have to disagree with you MTUFC, I think in Middleweight, I can’t see anybody beating him. Who do you think at middle can beat Henderson?
Oh and regarding Matt Hughes, I think if it turned more into a grappling mathc, it would be interesting, however, in a stand up war, we all know what would happen…

Very well said. Rampage is stronger. He handled Matt Linland descently, but I think now Rampage is even better, and will take it to Henderson just fine, don’t think he will have much of a problem.
If he wins, does he get the Pride LHW title

Anomaly, I really hope that the Pride LHW is at risk here because I’d like to see Page gain that title & justify himself to the MMA world. It’s funny that you pointed out Rampages performance against Lindland because I always felt Hendo was basically a Lindland but with a mean over-hand right. Arent those 2 in the same camp?

But what most concerns me with all this news as of late is that Dan Henderson is coming in at LHW. When he fought Wandi he weighed in at 198lbs, and that’s cuz they made him put some weight on. Right now the 205lb division in the UFC is stacked. The weakest division by far is the Middleweight. The top contender match is Franklin vs Okami. I mean who really wants to see Okami fight? After that, who is there in this division? No one worthy of a title shot, and please don’t say Kendall Grove…..

I think it’ll be great to watch Hollywood and Rampage go head to head this fall. I was excited when I heard that announcement after the fight. Rampage did to Chuck what Gonzaga did to Cro-Cop, hit them with their own bread and butter moves, after all how many people has Chuck knocked out with that looping punch? In Fairness if Chuck would have hit Rampage like that, Rampage would’ve been KTFO.

The Iceman vs the Axe murder, that’s a fight people have wanting to see for years and it’ll finally happen. I know Wandy had a cold going into his fight with Hollywood but Hollywood proved along with Cro Cop that Wandy is very beatable. Hell Chuck hits harder that Henderson so i think wandy is in for a rough night although given how dominant Silva was in PRIDE for so many years…anything can happen.

If Hollywood beats Jackson…their is another Silva he can go after. I know Anderson Silva is lacking any real competition right now except for maybe rich franklin and that would sell alot of tickets. If Hollywood can beat both Jackson and Silva, I say unify the titles under the parent company i.e the Zuffa Light Heavyweight and Middleweight titles, same with the other divisions as well. Just have whoever is champion defend their title 2 to 4 times a year 1 to 2 times in the UFC and the same in PRIDE.

The fight I would want to see if they gave Hendo a warm-up fight would be Hendo Vs. Houston Alexander, but after Jardine does not look like much of a warm-up.

Much Respect to both fighter but my judgement is Hendo will put up a much better fight than what chuck lidell has.. Hendo is much more of an all rounder compare to what chuck is so I think he’s gonna try most times to take this match on the mat but it’s still unclear as Rampage is also capable to go on the ground the only thing that is in the way is that hendo is alot lighter so Rampage would be more suited for this fight as he’s more adapt on his own weight class. This fight is gonna be great it’s a must see.

Both fighters are excellent. However, Henderson is a true middleweight…not light heavyweight. He may have some issues fighting above his division where jackson naturally fights. On the other hand he desroyed (KO’d)Wandi (who beat Jackson twice, once by KO. It seems that the UFC is protecting Jackson a bit. I believe a strong submission guy would take him out pretty quickly. I believe they picked this fight assuming that jackson will take both belts. They may have under estimated Henderson. I believe Jackson to be a more crisp boxer but Henderson is agressive as hell and quite a wrester with bombs in his hands. If the shorter Henderson can get comfortable at light heavyweight I see him taking this one.

i think rampage will win, because he have more motivation

Henderson will win by TKO. You heard it here!