WOW What a night! Talk about year of the underdogs in the UFC.

We had a little fun watching it after a couple of fights on the PPV card it almost seemed like you could put your wager on black and let it ride…..it would have won you a lot of $$$ down there……

Nice to see Chuck finally loose…he is a great fighter but we do need some change at times to spice things up.

Congrats Rampage! You whooped some ass!

GOOD NIGHT CHUCK…RAMPAGE HAS YOUR NUMBER!

AFTER THEY SAT HIM ON A STOOL..CHUCK ASKED HIS CORNER, “WHAT HAPPENED?”…YOU GOT YOUR ASS KNOCKED OUT FOOL!

Rampage better enjoy the belt while he has it because the best Light Heavyweight in the world is Mauricio Shogun Hua and he’s gone whup that ass when he gets his shot. He already kicked Rampage’s ass in Pride.

Letter to Dana White, Shogun should fight for the title soon or your just wasting the time of all your fans.

He’ll use his Muay Thai shit on Rampage and it will be all over. Rampage doesn’t defend knees well at all.

I’ll wait for that fight before I buy another UFC Pay-Per-View, what a waste of time and money.

Furthermore, I always thought Chuck left his guard down too much and I guess it goes to show I was right. Anyone and I mean anyone will get knocked out when they are clocked in the temple like that and that’s what happens when you leave yourself so open. It’s a surprise it hasn’t happened earlier.

[quote comment=“66202”]WOW What a night! Talk about year of the underdogs in the UFC.

Underdog? If you know anything about MMA, (which with this statement means that you don’t) you would know that this was not an upset. Rampage has been in knock out drag out wars, Chuck has not so his chin was suspect. Untested. Until Now. haha

I told you so..I called from the first day..till showtime. I loved it..great overrall was UFC71..I’m happy for Rampage..Chuck is a stud regardless of this out come. I just knew..that gut feeling Chuck was going to lose this fight..He has not fought a guy like rampage in recent times. If they fight again it would be the same result..he’ll have stars in his eye’s again..Like Tito with him..MMA/UFC the sky’s the limit.

chuck is a good fighter not a great fighter…he has power but is dull to watch in my opinion.way to much of a sit back and wait for the other guy to take all the chances.rampage is strong,a way better boxer and has a great chin to boot.i am glad to see a over rated fighter like chuck go.
  hey why does dana not let rampage enjoy his success for a bit ….wow to fight hendo as your defense.

Sometimes other fighters just have your number, jacksons style matches up very well against chucks, and he isn’t afraid of anyone, I still wish chuck would have won….2007 year of the upsets.

Well i made it in time for the last 2 fight’s(was busy) and witnessed Quinton"Rampage"Jackson strip Chuck"THE ICEMAN"Liddell for the LHW CH CH Championship! By KNOCKOUT!. Liddell was caught with a right and knocked to the ground, Quinton saw this and went in for a mount, aquied side mount and hit Chuck with about 4 punches. Big John saw this and stopped the fight at 1:44-1:46 of the very first round to crown Rampage the New LHW Champion. Greatest fight if i ever saw!..I was Rampage right from the beginning. Damn Chuck got beat and thats the truth. I said this before and i’ll say it again, every dog has it’s day, in todays case Chuck is the dog!
PLUS Dan is going to challenge Page for the Title. Damn, it just keeps getting better and better!!!!

Hey, Chuck got caught. I’m not gonna make excuses for my boy. I love Chuck to death. But Rampage was the better fighter (again) tonight. We all know there will be a 3rd (and possibly a 4th n 5th) just as long as it happens before chuck turns 40. Hendo is going to lose to RAMPAGE just to make it happen. And I’m drunk and it’s 3:38am EAST COAST bitches.

I feel queesy…Chuck is my Guy, I like Rampage and if anyone beat him, Rampaga would be the only guy I’d be cool with. I was pulling hard for Chuck but right from the start you sensed Rampage was in his head from the last fight. I just feel sick that it ended so pathetically. I think Chuck is the better fighter( opinion..because NOW especially you cannot make that claim with Rampage 2-0 on Chuck) but I think if they fought completely isolated from the mental edge Rampage owns with his forst fight….I think CHuck would’ve done what he does to Randleman. I just think sadly Rampage has Chuck like Chuck has Tito. I’d still like to see a III….only because Chuck deserves a chance to go out better than that. That SUCKED! Otherwise I say Chuck should take on Houston Alexander maybe…after his impressive job on Jardine.

Most Def a crazy night. I really hope hendo doesn’t get the next title shot because UFC is starting to get lame with all these guys coming from Pride and automatically getting title shots after like one fight. Whatever happened to working your way? I mean rampage had one fight and he got a title shot right after? now Hendo? who else? Seems like it’s now more about which fights are gonna bring in the money than rather who deserves it.

Great Night, my boy chuck got caught with a lucky shot,but rampage capitalized on it… The way i see it … Dan Henderson VS. Rampage Jackson = Dan Henderson then Chuck Lidell VS. Rashaad Evans= Chuck Liddell …. LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP… DAN HENDERSON VS> CHUCK LIDDELL = CHUCK LIDDELL… GAME OVER FOR THE NEXT 7 FIGHTS

There was some great fights tonight. Im so happy to see Chuck whooped, I just wish the whooping lasted longer.

Like has been said a few times before, Rampage had a lucky shot, i dont think so. If you see someone throw a lucky shot they didnt think would land, they look surprised. Rampage wasnt surprised. He then dropped down and beat on Chuck some more.

Then look at Chucks eyes and head, he looked like a newborn that was just learning to hold his head up straight, all whoozy and wild-eyed.

No fighter is invincible, like said before Rampage has Chuck’s #, and you know there are fighters that have Rampage’s #.

Most Def a crazy night. I really hope hendo doesn’t get the next title shot because UFC is starting to get lame with all these guys coming from Pride and automatically getting title shots after like one fight. Whatever happened to working your way? I mean rampage had one fight and he got a title shot right after? now Hendo? who else? Seems like it’s now more about which fights are gonna bring in the money than rather who deserves it.

This is quite true, just what I was thinking. Id like to see more fights then title shots.

This bugs me just as much as some of these WWE style entrances.
Heath Herring came out like the Undertaker, im waiting for Sgt. Slaughter to show up.

Most Def a crazy night. I really hope hendo doesn’t get the next title shot because UFC is starting to get lame with all these guys coming from Pride and automatically getting title shots after like one fight. Whatever happened to working your way? I mean rampage had one fight and he got a title shot right after? now Hendo? who else? Seems like it’s now more about which fights are gonna bring in the money than rather who deserves it.

I have to say that The guys from Pride Have earned it. You think that they haven’t but lets take a look. Anderson Silva from pride comes over and WINS the belt, then Rampage comes from Pride and WINS the belt. If they didn’t earn the shot then maybe they would have lost. I think sometimes it sucks, when pride guys come and get a shot, but if they are winning when they get the opportunity so be it. Hendo Vs. Rampage and then Rampage vs. Rashad( After he beats Tito) should be interesting.

Wow… just WOW. I wish Chuck would’ve overcome his fear and have won this fight. He had the potential to be the better fighter but he lost since he couldn’t overcome his fear of his past with Rampage. You could see the fear in Chuck’s eyes and in his voice during the pre-fight interviews and shit. Sigh.. I don’t even like Rampage but he is now the better fighter.

CHUCK got knocked the fuck out!!!!!!!!!Plus he looked scared from the beginning, backing up and all….Chuck shouldn’t fight rampage again….37 years old with a pop belly…Beat it Chuck…

chuck looked really punch drunk through the fight, he just didn’t look in it, page refused to play his game, he wouldn’t chase him and end up like babalu. wonder if chuck is gonna hang up the gloves?

what was with jardine and the monkey arms was he serious, alexander was throwing the exact same punch and jardine didn’t do anything to defend that right hook, very weak performance. don’t see he getting back to the top of the division no chance also i eat my words about chuck, i was sooooo wrong

Jackson so beat chuck at his own game, just sit back and counter, all the fights were good.

houston alexander threw two highlight reel uppercuts on Jardine, that guy is serious business now in 205. i say put him up against soukodjou but.. that will never happen haha..

Haaaaa HHHHaaaa,,that’s what everyone was waiting for !!!!!!
Rampage done did it,,Chuck is out !!!! And Chuck is not gonna gain it !!! that’s for sure !!!!! Hando,Shogun are on the road,,,so who knows,what’s gonna happen ! I’m not sure Rampage can defend his title succesfully,,,,Hando is one of my favourite fighters ! what i wanted rampage to do is over,,,he did it,,he did the thing that tito, and some othe guys couldn’t !
 War Couture !!!!! Hando !!! swick !!!! Sanchez !!! GSP !!!! Stevenson !

Most Def a crazy night. I really hope hendo doesn’t get the next title shot because UFC is starting to get lame with all these guys coming from Pride and automatically getting title shots after like one fight. Whatever happened to working your way? I mean rampage had one fight and he got a title shot right after? now Hendo? who else? Seems like it’s now more about which fights are gonna bring in the money than rather who deserves it.

Well think of it as in the Super Bowl where you have the AFC champ vs the NFC champ. I’m more a fan of UFC over PRIDE but they both have world class talent.

Great Night, my boy chuck got caught with a lucky shot,but rampage capitalized on it… The way i see it … Dan Henderson VS. Rampage Jackson = Dan Henderson then Chuck Lidell VS. Rashaad Evans= Chuck Liddell …. LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP… DAN HENDERSON VS> CHUCK LIDDELL = CHUCK LIDDELL… GAME OVER FOR THE NEXT 7 FIGHTS

I sort of agree. Rampage lands that shot, it’s lucky. If Liddell had landed the same shot and finished the fight the same way, we wouldn’t say it was luck because he’s done it before. This is just like Serra-GSP where it’s a shocking outcome- not the one I was hoping for but- totally legit.
The bad thing is if you thought Rampage was over-exposed before, now we’re gonna get him 24×7. They should just give him his own reality show and be done with it.

what was with jardine and the monkey arms was he serious, alexander was throwing the exact same punch and jardine didn’t do anything to defend that right hook, very weak performance. don’t see he getting back to the top of the division no chance also i eat my words about chuck, i was sooooo wrong

Jardine gets the Arlovski-Sell award where you think you hurt a guy, close in for the kill but then get put to sleep. Alexander is on the radar screen now and unfortunately this is going to set back Jardine. It’s too bad they didn’t give Alexander someone like Sean Salmon to pound out first. Then a Jardine-Alexander bout would higher up on the card.

i"m glad rampage won! i"m sooooooooo in love with him

im curious as to why so many people are saying rampage has chucks number. im not taking it away from him that he won, but putting ur head down and throwing a blind right that lands doesnt give u somebody’s “number”.

man i wish icouldve seen the fight chuck was my hero for a long time i didnt think it would happen that quick that is 1 bad n_ _ _ _ _ r. chuck will be back that is almost guarennteed.

I thought Jardine was totally unprepared to fight. Looked like he didn’t want to be there, and to me, didn’t look like he was in the great physical condition that he was for his previous fights.

He thought he was getting shortchanged (he was) by having to fight Alexander, and didn’t show up. I wonder how much of this was Alexander and how much was a lackadaisical Jardine. The next fight is critical for both of them.

Chuck threw a lazy left and left himself wide open for the counter.I thought Rampage was going to win,just not that soon.Chuck is great he will be back.

Everybody look back at previous comments and you’ll see all the Rampage haters telling me he would get knocked out. It may sound smug back that was awesome by Rampage.

im curious as to why so many people are saying rampage has chucks number. im not taking it away from him that he won, but putting ur head down and throwing a blind right that lands doesnt give u somebody’s “number”.

Its not just this fight, rampage beat him before.

And I fully agree with MamasBoy, if Chuck had landed that hit, people would say it was skill. Rampage lands it, luck. It wasnt luck, Chuck left himself open and got hit, hard. When he fell his left leg was kind of folded back, he wasnt prepared for that fall at all.

Not to brag or anything but i called out Kalib Starnes beating Chris Leben and people were saying some harsh things.. Not throwing it in anyones face but I called that, and everyone on the site knows i did. boooyaaa

Man, what does it take to be considered a Great fighter then?…Chuck has beat some of the best and had a seven fight win streak…Rampage caught him…maybe Chuck was a little too confident…but it was definitly crazy seeing the Iceman get knocked the hell out…people were starting to think he was invincible…not so much

im curious as to why so many people are saying rampage has chucks number. im not taking it away from him that he won, but putting ur head down and throwing a blind right that lands doesnt give u somebody’s “number”.

Not sure which fight you were watching (the animated gif is right in the thread above) but that shot was in no way ‘blind’ nor was Rampage’s head down. He looked Chuck square in the eyes and knocked him TFO! Again… Don’t hate on Page just because he knocked the golden boy down a peg. If Chuck truly is the fighter he’s been made out to be then he’ll be back with a vengance. I think this will be a good test for Chuck. He was overdue for a erality check.

I’ve come to the realization that what ever sport have a large audience that there is monet to be made from all angles and one of them is betting. That fight looked fixed! These are professional fighters. come on that did’nt even look like a solid punch. It was a bad night for the ufc!!

WOW What a night! Talk about year of the underdogs in the UFC.

Underdog? If you know anything about MMA, (which with this statement means that you don’t) you would know that this was not an upset. Rampage has been in knock out drag out wars, Chuck has not so his chin was suspect. Untested. Until Now. haha

In Jo’s defense, the word “upset” was never used. And yes, Rampage was the “underdog”. Just check back on any of the pre-fight betting lines. But you are correct, I don’t consider Rampage’s KO an upset either.

Did anyone else notice Denis Kang at a UFC event? I realize he was cornering, but still… Man they need to sign that guy. He has no contract anywhere.

Henderson! They’re all screwed, drop some weight or put some weight on, cause 205 just got dominated.

If Rampage beats Hendo or viceversa does that make that person the Undisputed Light Heavy Weight Champion of the World for real for real? or is it going to be non-title?

You can make knockouts 5 out of UFC 71.

i love how people now are saying i told you so when a few weeks or even a few days ago the same people were saying that chuck was the greates thing in the ufc.well he lost but that dont mean that he is out.i give jackson mad props for what he did.now some are saying chuck should hang it up?are you high?he has many years of mma in him.he will be back and he will fight for the LHC again. will he win?dont know but he will make it back to the top of the ufc ranks.so before you say hes done and say he should hang it up just look at the ufc HWC a 43 year old and ask yourself “should he hang it up?”i think not.

Rampage said he would whoop chuck’s ass and he did.

Greatest thing about this sport right now is that you have NO idea what is going to happen. I like Lidell because he’s understated and humble – but I give huge credit to Rampage, who is compelling in his own right because of his enthusiasm (his “time for some black on black crime” line from his last fight might be the funniest post-fight comment of all time). Last night wasn’t about luck – Chuck made a classic boxing mistake of overextending and got caught. Only a skilled fighter can capitalize… I thought the rest of the night was superb as well – Jardine’s arrogance was palpable – and costly. You simply do not enter the arena with that attitude; tho I must say I did not like Alexander’s standing over him after the stoppage – a big part of this sport’s appeal is the respect the fighters have for one another. Can’t wait to see if Alexander’s for real… Congrats to the UFC for another fantastic night. For me it’s not about “either or” with boxing and MMA – I like the fight game in general. But there’s no denying that nights like last night – excitement in every fight, upsets, devastating knockouts, non-stop action – are more often found in the UFC.

Rampage had Chuck’s number because a) he was patient b) He fought with his hands up to defend his face c) Chuck fought with his hands down by his waist. When you throw a body shot with one hand, you use the other to defend your face. If Chuck had done that, the fight would have gone past 1:53.

It was an exciting night. I know Chuck got caught, but it was deffinitely stopped way to quick. I think 3 more punches to the dome and it should have been stopped. I dont think he was ever knocked out. Congratulations to Rampage!

I’m not gonna talk shit and say the “I told you so” speech but allow me to put this “upset” in perspective.

This is an upset in media terms ONLY. Anyone with a nonbias opinion and even intermediate knowledge of the sport knew that this was not really an upset and actually saw this conclusion coming be it first round or fifth round. As stated before on this site their styles and their opposition determined the outcome of this fight LONG before they stepped in the ring.

Rampage got the raw end of media bashing leading up to this fight with people only talking bout how he lost two Silva and Shogun after beating Chuck but no one wanted to mention that at that time Shogun and Silva were arguably the two best 205’ers in the world one, two in many peoples book and not only did Rampage go to war with Silva but he fought with broke ribs against Shogun. Everyone made it sound like the cage was gonna be some kind of new thing for Rampage but hey he fought Lindland in a cage before coming to UFC so that wasn’t a factor. Then everyone made it sound like some how Rampage had not become a better fighter since then, when Rampage himself stated that he used to not focus in training and that it effected his cardio and what not and when he fought Lindland that was the beginning of him “taking his career serious” and he came in EXCELLENT shape for every fight since then. He added leg kicks to his game and even improved on his ground game and ability to cut the cage off. Once again though his loses came at the hands of two of the best strikers in the world.

Chuck was made to look like a monster in the media lead up. Rightfully so in the fact that he has indeed won seven straight and what not. But lets look deeper. Vitor Belfort went toe to toe with Chuck and had it not been for Chuck flooring him in the final round that decision may have been closer than it turned out to be but the point of that fight was that Chuck couldn’t close the show against a bonafide striker. The most impressive win that Chuck had over a striker was in 2003 against Allister Overeem and after that he met a better striker in Rampage. Since then Chuck has been matched up against some of the best in UFC but unfortunate for him those best have all been primarily wrestlers and BJJ fighters. Chuck is a master at keeping the fight on its feet so why is it hyped up so much that he was able to beat Jermey Horn, Babalu and Tito (who trained with Chuck and who Frank Shamrock said before the first fight that Tito’s problem was that he is deathly afraid of being hit in the head and anyone who has trained with Tito knows this. Chuck even said it in the lead up to their fights). Vernon White is not even known as a good striker and Randy Couture is a warrior but the fact that he was able to out strike Chuck was something that as a pure striker Chuck should be ashamed of in the same way that Cro Cop should be ashamed of his last loss. Its not Chucks fault the competition that he had to fight in UFC he fought and beat whoever they put in front of him but it should not go with out saying that there was a time when Rich Franklin wanted to move up to 205 (shortly after fighting Ken Shamrock) and Dana White stopped that and convinced him to stay at middleweight because at that time Dana was marketing UFC with Matt Hughes, Rich Franklin and Chuck Liddell as the faces of his brand and he wanted all of them to be champs in their weight classes.

For big money Dana was willing to feed Chuck to the lions but only for big money which is why he didn’t match Chuck up against any other strikers who could create a bad night for his cash cow. Enter Rampage who himself said he was rusty and Dana in typical Vince McMahon fashion talked shit like “Tune up you dont need no fucking tune up, you already beat Chuck” what Dana was looking for was to catch an unprepared Rampage for Chuck to beat and set up a rubber match. HOWEVER in Dana’s mind he knew that even if Rampage won that Rampage is a guy who can market the UFC brand and take it on the road to talk shows everywhere and be funny and engaging to disarm the non MMA fan of their stereotypes of MMA fighters. Very Don King’ish of Dana.

Fight night comes and I am not sure how many of you guys on this board have ever fought in boxing or MMA but I will tell you this from expereince. A fighter knows when he looks into the eyes of the man across from him before the first bell, he can tell if that man is having second thoughts about his ability to win that fight. Chuck had second thoughts right before that bell and really I think that even the Ref saw it which is why Big John specifically says to Rampage are you ready but then looks to chuck and says “CHUCK…Are you Ready”

Fans tend to smooth over the obvious flaws that can lead to a loss for their man so they forgot the fact that Chuck throws looping shots and that Rampage had added a world class boxing trainer to his camp and had great boxing technique. They forgot the fact that Chuck when looping the left hook almost ALWAYS leaves his right down and open for counter ala Roy Jones Jr. They forgot the fact that Chuck hadn’t fought a legit striker in years and that was apparent by how tentative he was when the fight started and he was on his bike better than Lance Armstrong and when he did engage its like he was Tito Ortiz scared to get hit in the head so he engaged the action with a fear of being beat to the punch. When Rampage stopped in mid ring and put his hands up like “What the fuck is up?” I told everyone in the room that if Chuck bites the fight would be over quick and sho nuff Chuck bit cause he wasn’t gonna let Rampage make him look like he was a punk.

The conversation after the fight between Dana White and Chuck Liddell probably sounded similar to that of Mick and Rocky in Rocky 3 when Mick told Rocky that the guys they had matched him up against were not “bums” but were guys who’s strengths didn’t out weigh Rocky’s weaknesses and that the reason why Mick felt that Rocky would lose to Clubber Lang is because Rocky hadn’t fought with the eye of the tiger in years and that he (Clubber) was hungry in the way that Rocky used to be but that Rocky had already become soft from being Champ for so long. Rampage is as hungry now as Chuck was back when he first became champ. Chuck became complacent and his prefight talk proved it with his belief that all he had to do was throw punches and one will land and knock out Rampage.

Wow, what a right and GnP. No questionable stoppage, no lucky punch……UFC is the shizznit, late 06 and 07 has been a great

It was an exciting night. I know Chuck got caught, but it was deffinitely stopped way to quick. I think 3 more punches to the dome and it should have been stopped. I dont think he was ever knocked out. Congratulations to Rampage!

??? Liddell was out cold. When you see his right hand fall to the canvas when he was on his back, he was out. The next punch woke him back up, and he acted like he didnt know why it was stopped. This is VERY common in MMA. Most recent event I can think of was Tito v Shamcrock II. Ken popped up and started prancing around calling it all bullshit, but the replay showed he was out, then got woken up by another punch.

I told you so..I called from the first day..till showtime. I loved it..great overrall was UFC71..I’m happy for Rampage..Chuck is a stud regardless of this out come. I just knew..that gut feeling Chuck was going to lose this fight..He has not fought a guy like rampage in recent times. If they fight again it would be the same result..he’ll have stars in his eye’s again..Like Tito with him..MMA/UFC the sky’s the limit.

i love the i told you do guys. hey newbie… half the guys on this site picked rampage

??? Liddell was out cold. When you see his right hand fall to the canvas when he was on his back, he was out. The next punch woke him back up, and he acted like he didnt know why it was stopped. This is VERY common in MMA. Most recent event I can think of was Tito v Shamcrock II. Ken popped up and started prancing around calling it all bullshit, but the replay showed he was out, then got woken up by another punch.

i love the i told you do guys. hey newbie… half the guys on this site picked rampage

i love the i told you do guys. hey newbie… half the guys on this site picked rampage

Did anyone see the voting on this fight on TV? It was like 63-68% for Liddell? The UFC hype machine really does work.

Henderson! They’re all screwed, drop some weight or put some weight on, cause 205 just got dominated.

If Rampage beats Hendo or viceversa does that make that person the Undisputed Light Heavy Weight Champion of the World for real for real? or is it going to be non-title?

You can make knockouts 5 out of UFC 71.

dont get me wrong. i love hendo but he got dominated vs wandy the first time around, then beat a sick wandy the second. hes a bad, bad man, but i really think the mma is getting way to good and it will be really hard for anyone to win even 3-4 fights in a row vs top competition

Did anyone see the voting on this fight on TV? It was like 63-68% for Liddell? The UFC hype machine really does work.

I’ve come to the realization that what ever sport have a large audience that there is monet to be made from all angles and one of them is betting. That fight looked fixed! These are professional fighters. come on that did’nt even look like a solid punch. It was a bad night for the ufc!!

pretty funny dude
watch the punch again

im curious as to why so many people are saying rampage has chucks number. im not taking it away from him that he won, but putting ur head down and throwing a blind right that lands doesnt give u somebody’s “number”.

You may wanna watch the replay again.. It was a planned counter to Chucks shot.. This wasn’t an Antonio Tarver vs Roy Jones KO situation because Rampages eyes were wide open and he blocked the body shot just to counter with the hook… Nothing lucky about that. go to Sherdog and hear the interview with Chucks trainer where he said that they had told chuck to never throw a body shot from that far out

Hey, I really like Chuck, but he did not look in shape. His belly had gone soft and was bloated. He was not in the trim he needed to be in. He needs to show the fans that he has variety in offense, can take close in power attacks. He made a mistake….a wild powerful punch needs a glove or thin air in the way, not a dropped guard. Rampage did not really get a fight, was in great physical shape with a lot of training confidence, and is punching for glory. I do believe UFC does not have much talent depth and needs stories to add script around. That is fine. Let Chuck get in shape, he is already great but let him get his fight strategy fixed to handle Rampage intensity so we don’t get a replay. He can sell PPV if he gets going again and is matched with some of the incoming talent. Great fight Rampage, Great conditioning.

You may wanna watch the replay again.. It was a planned counter to Chucks shot.. This wasn’t an Antonio Tarver vs Roy Jones KO situation because Rampages eyes were wide open and he blocked the body shot just to counter with the hook… Nothing lucky about that. go to Sherdog and hear the interview with Chucks trainer where he said that they had told chuck to never throw a body shot from that far out

Go over to UFC.com and watch the post fight presser. Quinton is as funny as ever.
On Matt Lindland, “That dude is funky, he smells like two weeks. I dont know how he has any kids.”

i think chucks next fight should be with shogun

Chuck got caught doing something stupid that I’m sure he gets away with when he fights less experienced or skilled opponents.

Did anyone else notice Denis Kang at a UFC event? I realize he was cornering, but still… Man they need to sign that guy. He has no contract anywhere.

Really? Then what the hell is Dana “its good to be” White waiting for? I dont know many details about Kang other than he is a top tier fighter but that alone means he should be on the big stage.

I feel queesy…Chuck is my Guy, I like Rampage and if anyone beat him, Rampaga would be the only guy I’d be cool with. I was pulling hard for Chuck but right from the start you sensed Rampage was in his head from the last fight. I just feel sick that it ended so pathetically. I think Chuck is the better fighter( opinion..because NOW especially you cannot make that claim with Rampage 2-0 on Chuck) but I think if they fought completely isolated from the mental edge Rampage owns with his forst fight….I think CHuck would’ve done what he does to Randleman. I just think sadly Rampage has Chuck like Chuck has Tito. I’d still like to see a III….only because Chuck deserves a chance to go out better than that. That SUCKED! Otherwise I say Chuck should take on Houston Alexander maybe…after his impressive job on Jardine.

Alexander is going to be a threat to anyone at 205. He’s agressive, has two jackhammers for fists and he seems to be able to take a punch. He was lifting Jardine off the ground with those uppercuts.

Bizarro T, thanks for that explanation on why Page was expected to win because if you had’nt, I would’ve for sure. Too many people are talking out of their asses without any real back history. I’m glad you set them straight. Let’s cross our fingers & hope they read the whole thing like I did.

Anyone willing to hop on the UFC upset bandwagon with me and pick Okami over Franklin?

OK heres the senario, Cotour loses to GG and drops weight to take on Rampage… Possible???

Now that there are so many biggies around Cotour really has to retire or reduce weight.

Chuck will probably fight Wanderla Silva that would make sense. It would make for a great cross over with pride…

WOW What a night! Talk about year of the underdogs in the UFC.

Underdog? If you know anything about MMA, (which with this statement means that you don’t) you would know that this was not an upset. Rampage has been in knock out drag out wars, Chuck has not so his chin was suspect. Untested. Until Now. haha

Who was the favorite to win? I think if you look at the odds or the fight polls the UNDERDOGS (Least Favored to WIN) won the following fights:
Lidell VS Jackson- Winner-Jackson(Underdog)
GSP VS Serra – Winner-Serra(Underdog)
Silvia vs Couture-Winner Couture(may have been an underdog to some..)
Cro Cop VS Gonzales-Winner Gonzales (UNDERDOG)

We can add more to that list from last nights card…How about the Jardine VS Alexander Fight? I think Jardine was favored big time….not many people thought he would get his feet lifted off the ground like that from Upper cuts delivered by Alexander (Underdog)
Starnes Vs Leben-Leben was favored to win his fight…didn’t he loose too?

So maybe you should retract your statement unless someone changed the dictionary meaning of “UNDERDOG”

Thanks “just1fix”

dont get me wrong. i love hendo but he got dominated vs wandy the first time around, then beat a sick wandy the second. hes a bad, bad man, but i really think the mma is getting way to good and it will be really hard for anyone to win even 3-4 fights in a row vs top competition

Ya I think the days where champs defend the belt for 7-9 times is long gone.

I personally thought Chuck was going to win, I’m a big Rampage fan. I’ve liked him since he debuted in Pride against Sakuraba! But I was one of the majority that felt the odds were in Liddell’s favor…WHAP!!!! I’m wrong. Liddell’s beaten on pretty much everybody, He had only a few good matchups left had he won. Rampage is (not to the die hards) A new face in the UFC wich is exciting when he take’s the gold!!!

Didn’t Denis Kang break his hand during his last win back in March?

Anyway, UFC 71 was full of excitement – the only surprise for me was to see Jardine get “punished” so badly. I would have liked to have seen Chuck last a few more rounds, but it was what it was… not an Upset, but an Awakening for many…

im curious as to why so many people are saying rampage has chucks number. im not taking it away from him that he won, but putting ur head down and throwing a blind right that lands doesnt give u somebody’s “number”.

Wow. Talk about blind loyalty to Chuck.
I’ll explain the “number” deal for you. Quentin Jackson is the only man to fight Chuck Liddell and not lose a fight to him. Everybody else who has fought Chuck has tasted defeat, and most of those defeats have come in form of a KO or TKO, many of them spectacular. Mr. Jackson, however, is 2-0 versus Liddell, and both wins were decisive. He does to Chuck like Chuck does to Tito.

what was with jardine and the monkey arms was he serious, alexander was throwing the exact same punch and jardine didn’t do anything to defend that right hook, very weak performance. don’t see he getting back to the top of the division no chance also i eat my words about chuck, i was sooooo wrong

Did you notice how hard that same punch was, he was to rocked to do anything about it.

Bizarro Tommy , that article was sooooo perfect i cannot add anything else so i’m going to copy and paste yours and make em read it twice……..
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(from Bizarro Tommy)
I’m not gonna talk shit and say the “I told you so” speech but allow me to put this “upset” in perspective.

This is an upset in media terms ONLY. Anyone with a nonbias opinion and even intermediate knowledge of the sport knew that this was not really an upset and actually saw this conclusion coming be it first round or fifth round. As stated before on this site their styles and their opposition determined the outcome of this fight LONG before they stepped in the ring.

Rampage got the raw end of media bashing leading up to this fight with people only talking bout how he lost two Silva and Shogun after beating Chuck but no one wanted to mention that at that time Shogun and Silva were arguably the two best 205"²ers in the world one, two in many peoples book and not only did Rampage go to war with Silva but he fought with broke ribs against Shogun. Everyone made it sound like the cage was gonna be some kind of new thing for Rampage but hey he fought Lindland in a cage before coming to UFC so that wasn’t a factor. Then everyone made it sound like some how Rampage had not become a better fighter since then, when Rampage himself stated that he used to not focus in training and that it effected his cardio and what not and when he fought Lindland that was the beginning of him “taking his career serious” and he came in EXCELLENT shape for every fight since then. He added leg kicks to his game and even improved on his ground game and ability to cut the cage off. Once again though his loses came at the hands of two of the best strikers in the world.

Chuck was made to look like a monster in the media lead up. Rightfully so in the fact that he has indeed won seven straight and what not. But lets look deeper. Vitor Belfort went toe to toe with Chuck and had it not been for Chuck flooring him in the final round that decision may have been closer than it turned out to be but the point of that fight was that Chuck couldn’t close the show against a bonafide striker. The most impressive win that Chuck had over a striker was in 2003 against Allister Overeem and after that he met a better striker in Rampage. Since then Chuck has been matched up against some of the best in UFC but unfortunate for him those best have all been primarily wrestlers and BJJ fighters. Chuck is a master at keeping the fight on its feet so why is it hyped up so much that he was able to beat Jermey Horn, Babalu and Tito (who trained with Chuck and who Frank Shamrock said before the first fight that Tito’s problem was that he is deathly afraid of being hit in the head and anyone who has trained with Tito knows this. Chuck even said it in the lead up to their fights). Vernon White is not even known as a good striker and Randy Couture is a warrior but the fact that he was able to out strike Chuck was something that as a pure striker Chuck should be ashamed of in the same way that Cro Cop should be ashamed of his last loss. Its not Chucks fault the competition that he had to fight in UFC he fought and beat whoever they put in front of him but it should not go with out saying that there was a time when Rich Franklin wanted to move up to 205 (shortly after fighting Ken Shamrock) and Dana White stopped that and convinced him to stay at middleweight because at that time Dana was marketing UFC with Matt Hughes, Rich Franklin and Chuck Liddell as the faces of his brand and he wanted all of them to be champs in their weight classes.

For big money Dana was willing to feed Chuck to the lions but only for big money which is why he didn’t match Chuck up against any other strikers who could create a bad night for his cash cow. Enter Rampage who himself said he was rusty and Dana in typical Vince McMahon fashion talked shit like “Tune up you dont need no fucking tune up, you already beat Chuck” what Dana was looking for was to catch an unprepared Rampage for Chuck to beat and set up a rubber match. HOWEVER in Dana’s mind he knew that even if Rampage won that Rampage is a guy who can market the UFC brand and take it on the road to talk shows everywhere and be funny and engaging to disarm the non MMA fan of their stereotypes of MMA fighters. Very Don King’ish of Dana.

Fight night comes and I am not sure how many of you guys on this board have ever fought in boxing or MMA but I will tell you this from expereince. A fighter knows when he looks into the eyes of the man across from him before the first bell, he can tell if that man is having second thoughts about his ability to win that fight. Chuck had second thoughts right before that bell and really I think that even the Ref saw it which is why Big John specifically says to Rampage are you ready but then looks to chuck and says “CHUCK…Are you Ready”

Fans tend to smooth over the obvious flaws that can lead to a loss for their man so they forgot the fact that Chuck throws looping shots and that Rampage had added a world class boxing trainer to his camp and had great boxing technique. They forgot the fact that Chuck when looping the left hook almost ALWAYS leaves his right down and open for counter ala Roy Jones Jr. They forgot the fact that Chuck hadn’t fought a legit striker in years and that was apparent by how tentative he was when the fight started and he was on his bike better than Lance Armstrong and when he did engage its like he was Tito Ortiz scared to get hit in the head so he engaged the action with a fear of being beat to the punch. When Rampage stopped in mid ring and put his hands up like “What the fuck is up?” I told everyone in the room that if Chuck bites the fight would be over quick and sho nuff Chuck bit cause he wasn’t gonna let Rampage make him look like he was a punk.

The conversation after the fight between Dana White and Chuck Liddell probably sounded similar to that of Mick and Rocky in Rocky 3 when Mick told Rocky that the guys they had matched him up against were not “bums” but were guys who’s strengths didn’t out weigh Rocky’s weaknesses and that the reason why Mick felt that Rocky would lose to Clubber Lang is because Rocky hadn’t fought with the eye of the tiger in years and that he (Clubber) was hungry in the way that Rocky used to be but that Rocky had already become soft from being Champ for so long. Rampage is as hungry now as Chuck was back when he first became champ. Chuck became complacent and his prefight talk proved it with his belief that all he had to do was throw punches and one will land and knock out Rampage.

“Not sure which fight you were watching (the animated gif is right in the thread above) but that shot was in no way ‘blind’ nor was Rampage’s head down. He looked Chuck square in the eyes and knocked him TFO! Again… Don’t hate on Page just because he knocked the golden boy down a peg. If Chuck truly is the fighter he’s been made out to be then he’ll be back with a vengance. I think this will be a good test for Chuck. He was overdue for a erality check.[/quote]

Just1Fix hit this one right on the spot!

I was wrong again, shit wrong with randy,gsp,cro cop and now liddel god I suck.

To be honest I’m surprised Chucks weakness’s haven’t been exploited earlier, hands way down, his striking style, rampage did a great job and did his homework.

Why disrepect Chuck? He got clipped? Big Deal..he wasnt dismantled like Rampage previously was..more than once. Keep it respectful.

It’s amazing how now I am reading from someone that Chuck looked out of shape… LMAO. He always has that beer gut. I like what Chuck said after the fight. Immediately after a fight is when a fighter is the most honest especially when he is beat decisively.

Chuck said “I wanna say hi to my kids, its okay daddy is alright, I’m alright.” He knew it wasn’t a quick stoppage, he knew it wasn’t an accident or luck or whatever. He stepped in with a guy who wasn’t afraid to take one to give one and more importantly Rampage has been in WARS and was willing to go to war to win.. Chuck has never had to gut out a victory.

I agree with Joe Rogan when he compared Chuck to Mike Tyson. They are indeed the same in that both delivered devestating KO’s against guys who were not able to really punch with them and neither fighter had ever been in a situation where they had to dig deep and win a fight on character and determination. They both do not respond well against fighters who offer up solid resistance. I dont agree with Joe Rogan much but he was dead on wit the Tyson comparison.

I’m very glad that Rampage didnt take the bait, and chase down Chuck Liddell. He just cut him off and made him take a chance. Then, he ’whooped dat ass".

I agree very strongly with two things that were said in the article: Chris Leben needs to go away for a while. I don’t even give him gate-keeper status. He has been shown to be a bit of a sloppy fighter.
    Second, Chuck’s loss is great for the division, just like the GSP loss. It just reinforces how unpredictable this sport can be (even though I predicted Rampage). It’s too bad for Rampage that Shogun is in town, now. I’m not so sure Rampage can handle him.

Great Night, my boy chuck got caught with a lucky shot,but rampage capitalized on it… The way i see it … Dan Henderson VS. Rampage Jackson = Dan Henderson then Chuck Lidell VS. Rashaad Evans= Chuck Liddell …. LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP… DAN HENDERSON VS> CHUCK LIDDELL = CHUCK LIDDELL… GAME OVER FOR THE NEXT 7 FIGHTS

" Luck is when preperation meets oppurtunity..right? "
PS..Rampage would destroy Henderson..no questions asked.

I was wrong again, shit wrong with randy,gsp,cro cop and now liddel god I suck.

Don’t be so hard on yourself

You may wanna watch the replay again.. It was a planned counter to Chucks shot.. This wasn’t an Antonio Tarver vs Roy Jones KO situation because Rampages eyes were wide open and he blocked the body shot just to counter with the hook… Nothing lucky about that. go to Sherdog and hear the interview with Chucks trainer where he said that they had told chuck to never throw a body shot from that far out

It’s amazing how now I am reading from someone that Chuck looked out of shape… LMAO. He always has that beer gut. I like what Chuck said after the fight. Immediately after a fight is when a fighter is the most honest especially when he is beat decisively.

Chuck said “I wanna say hi to my kids, its okay daddy is alright, I’m alright.” He knew it wasn’t a quick stoppage, he knew it wasn’t an accident or luck or whatever. He stepped in with a guy who wasn’t afraid to take one to give one and more importantly Rampage has been in WARS and was willing to go to war to win.. Chuck has never had to gut out a victory.

I agree with Joe Rogan when he compared Chuck to Mike Tyson. They are indeed the same in that both delivered devestating KO’s against guys who were not able to really punch with them and neither fighter had ever been in a situation where they had to dig deep and win a fight on character and determination. They both do not respond well against fighters who offer up solid resistance. I dont agree with Joe Rogan much but he was dead on wit the Tyson comparison.

Bizarro Tommy knows his stuff! You hit this one right on the spot!

For all the Rampage Haters, here is a link that you might enjoy – http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/UFC+71/video/x23ahb_liddell-jackson-ufc-71-slow-motion

War Rampage!!!

i meant the “i told you so” guys

" FOR THE NON BELIEVE’S ONLY "

Why disrepect Chuck? He got clipped? Big Deal..he wasnt dismantled like Rampage previously was..more than once. Keep it respectful.

He got clipped? You call Rampage looking at him dead in the eye delivering that powerfull right hook a clip? Come on now! Just like Rampage said in his pre fight interviews, “You can’t always have what you want”. Rampage smashed on him! End of story …..

chuck is a good fighter not a great fighter…he has power but is dull to watch in my opinion.way to much of a sit back and wait for the other guy to take all the chances.rampage is strong,a way better boxer and has a great chin to boot.i am glad to see a over rated fighter like chuck go.
hey why does dana not let rampage enjoy his success for a bit ….wow to fight hendo as your defense.

How in the world can you say this? Liddell hasn’t lost since 2003? To Rampage..

Whatever…I shouldn’t argue with stupid people…

tell me someone else in this world caught karo mentioning reggie warren. karo got some cool points

How in the world can you say this? Liddell hasn’t lost since 2003? To Rampage..

Whatever…I shouldn’t argue with stupid people…

Because Chuck Liddell hasn’t fought a good fighter like Rampage. He KO’d a washed up Tito, washed up Babalu, washed up Jeremy Horn and his fight w/Randy Coture. Coture is not washed up, but Coture just wasn’t on his “A” game at the time.
People just aren’t giving Rampage his credit and probably never will give him the credit. As for now, he is probably going to be the most hated for now and the boo’s will continue just because he beat up y’alls Golden Boy. It’s not about arguing with “stupid people”. If you feel that way, then don’t get on the blogs.

Rampage Jackson – The New Light Heavy Weight Champion

The tough thing about worshiping your favorite fighter is seeing him lose. In the world of fighting, sometimes things change overnight. I hate to say this, but I think this is the beginning of the end of Chuck Liddell’s career. Just like Roy Jones when he finally met up with Tarber. It’s so similar it’s scary. I want one more fight between the two to see if Chuck really is now mortal. But from what I’ve seen, this looks like a bad matchup for Chuck. Compared to Rampage, he looked like an old man in there gettin his “ass whooped”. I am still a huge Liddell fan, and I hope he reads this so maybe he can get motivated to come back and beat Rampage. But Rampage looks bigger, stronger, faster, and maybe even a bit crazier. Rampage also may have a better chin. It’s so surprising and I still can’t believe it. It’ll take a while for this to sink in. I had my beer in the air to Chuck and I bought this thing to hopefully watch Chuck land some of his classic bombs all over Rampage’s head. I knew it would have to be really one-sided for Chuck to win, with about 5 – 10 Liddell haymakers on Rampage’s thick head. But NOW I feel like I got my “Ass Whooped”! Big disappointment Chuck, but everyone’s human I guess.

Its simple folks. Rocky 3… While chuck was racking up wins against guys who couldn’t fight him properly, Rampage was fighting guys like Wand and Shogun. Even if he lost to them the lessons in defense and conditioning that he learned from them propelled his skill much further than we expected because he was constantly fighting guys who had a chance to KO him… NO Liddell fan in here will say that Chuck was in danger of being KO’ed by Babalu, or Tito, or Vernon White, or even Randy for real because that Randy KO was a surprise to everyone they thought that fight would be Randy trying to take him down and Chuck stuffing that Take down like he always does and it ending in KO.

Face it Chuck had lost that eye of the tiger once he became champ and he and Dana embarked on a media blitz to bolster MMA and UFC via devestating KO’s much in the same way prudent match making allowed Mike Tyson to peretuate that same mystique early in his career.

 Dana dropped the ball during the promotion of this fight because he didn’t really care to let the world know who Rampage was. he was simply the guy who last beat Chuck and the documentaries and videos focused on how Chuck won seven straight after losing to Rampage and how Rampage’s career had went to opposite direction when in reality since beating Chuck, Rampage has gone 8-3 having ONLY lost to Wanderlie Silva and Shogun.

Thanks for the slo-mo link. I missed the power behind that elbow and how fiercely that last shot was to Chuck’s head. Like I said, classic case of a guy getting KOed only to be woken back up with the next one.

Randy is the smartest guy in MMA. Look at all the dudes wearing his shirts!

I think they should have let Rampage land a few more shots to clearly finish it. They were stopping the fights a little early last night. Especially in the Championship fight. I don’t think Chuck was coming back, and it was an appropriate stoppage. But a Championship KO needs to thorough and I think the ref should have let Chuck get hit 1 or 2 more times to make sure he was truly knocked out. Chuck was arguing a little with the stoppage, and that’s why I think they should have let it go on for about 3 or 4 more seconds to finish it off. What do you think Bizarro?

Cha Ching! Thank you Houston Alexander for winning me nearly eighteen hundred bucks!

Thank you Rampage Jackson for showing all the “overnight” UFC fans that Chuck Liddell is not the second coming.

And thank you Chuck Liddell for being so one dimensional that now you might actually get your chance to get knocked out by Wanderlei Silva.

Thank you Rampage Jackson for showing all the “overnight” UFC fans that Chuck Liddell is not the second coming.
And thank you Chuck Liddell for being so one dimensional that now you might actually get your chance to get knocked out by Wanderlei Silva.

LOL, I couldnt have said this any better myself! :)

My buddy & I tossed around the idea of putting a few bucks on HA just for kicks but we decided not to because we each spread our wallets thin with bets on QRJ. I won some decent change but not $1,800 :( Congrats Frizz! Not only for raking in some dough but for also being intelligent enough to pick Rampage for the win :)

Nice play Frizz…My picks went pretty damn well this time around. Hope everyone had a hell of night. That was a great bunch of fights even the ones that went to decision.

My liver feels like it was in the octogon, my wallet feels like it was in an all you can eat buffet, and my mind…well I think I lost that along time ago.

Lets skip straight to UFC 73….

thats is the strangest pic of Chuck Liddell and big John I think I’ll ever see.

I just watched the Sean Salmon v Alan Belcher bout. Terrible. Salmon ran in for the takedown, left his head on the outside going for the double, and Belcher locked in the guillotine tight as hell. I really dont think that guy is gonna be back. Rogan likes him for some reason, but he needs a trip to the WEC for awhile. Cant find the Irvin/SIlva bout anywhere. Anyone got a heads up?

Its simple folks. Rocky 3… While chuck was racking up wins against guys who couldn’t fight him properly, Rampage was fighting guys like Wand and Shogun. Even if he lost to them the lessons in defense and conditioning that he learned from them propelled his skill much further than we expected because he was constantly fighting guys who had a chance to KO him… NO Liddell fan in here will say that Chuck was in danger of being KO’ed by Babalu, or Tito, or Vernon White, or even Randy for real because that Randy KO was a surprise to everyone they thought that fight would be Randy trying to take him down and Chuck stuffing that Take down like he always does and it ending in KO.

Face it Chuck had lost that eye of the tiger once he became champ and he and Dana embarked on a media blitz to bolster MMA and UFC via devestating KO’s much in the same way prudent match making allowed Mike Tyson to peretuate that same mystique early in his career.

Dana dropped the ball during the promotion of this fight because he didn’t really care to let the world know who Rampage was. he was simply the guy who last beat Chuck and the documentaries and videos focused on how Chuck won seven straight after losing to Rampage and how Rampage’s career had went to opposite direction when in reality since beating Chuck, Rampage has gone 8-3 having ONLY lost to Wanderlie Silva and Shogun.

We all think that Bizarro should take Joe Rogan’s Place! What do you all think? Bizarro is on his “A” game!!

:)

Did Rampage really fight Shogun with a messed up rib? That would explain alot.
Yeah, I guess I would have to agree with the people attributing it to the fact Chuck has not faced a legit striker in a wihle. He def. has the ability, and this fight oculd have gone either way, although I think Rampage would have needed much more a beating to be out like that, but Chuck kinda lost it in those years of facing grapplers, I hope he comes back, and learns from this.

Why disrepect Chuck? He got clipped? Big Deal..he wasnt dismantled like Rampage previously was..more than once. Keep it respectful.

Excuses are like a@@holes, everyone has one!

I have to say that The guys from Pride Have earned it. You think that they haven’t but lets take a look. Anderson Silva from pride comes over and WINS the belt, then Rampage comes from Pride and WINS the belt. If they didn’t earn the shot then maybe they would have lost. I think sometimes it sucks, when pride guys come and get a shot, but if they are winning when they get the opportunity so be it. Hendo Vs. Rampage and then Rampage vs. Rashad( After he beats Tito) should be interesting.

True, they have earned it, but that has nothing to do with the fact they are coming from a different league. I think they should have a couple of fights before getting a title shot in the UFC. Next thing ok Emilianenko comes and gets a title shot without fighting any fights, true we know that the guy is a machine and could take anyone but would it be fair for the current champion all or the others that been working for a title shot, just because the league has become a money machine?

Man even if Chuck came in 100% prepared, it still could have gone like this. Rampage really is a beast, I can’t see Hendo beating him. Chuck really looked a little puzzled with how to deal with Rampage.

hehe salmon is out of the ufc now 0-2
i dont know why ufcjunkie makes that big deal of him, hes a noob.

so does anyone have Franklin going down? they way things are going that is very likely but for some reason im just gonna stick to Ace, and when he gets the rematch its over for Silva

Rampage is gonna beat Hendo descisivly I say, I wanna see Rampage/Wandi III. I think it would be a different fight this time, especially if what Rampage says about his trainers is true, sounds like he has the legitest camp he has had.

first Franklin then Hughes then Couture Beats Sylvia then GSP Gets Knocked Out And THEN Cro Cop Loses By His Own Move And NOW Liddell Loses By Knockout!!! UFC Must Stand For UPSET FIGHTING CHAMPIONSHIP Or Underdog fighting championship Like all those champs liddell now has to make a comeback which sure as cro cop he can,itll just be interesting to see if Dana White jumps off of Chucks Wagon after he lost like he did to tito

Rampage is gonna beat Hendo descisivly I say, I wanna see Rampage/Wandi III. I think it would be a different fight this time, especially if what Rampage says about his trainers is true, sounds like he has the legitest camp he has had

My thoughts exactly. I must agree with you on this one.

first Franklin then Hughes then Couture Beats Sylvia then GSP Gets Knocked Out And THEN Cro Cop Loses By His Own Move And NOW Liddell Loses By Knockout!!!

Quite a few people have been trying to classify this as either an upset or a surprising win from an underdog. Rampage was only an underdog in the betting line, not as a fighter & the definition of upset disqualifies anyone from using it to describe what took place between QRJ & CL last night.

Dan the Mr. Hollywood would be demolished in the 205 division/ I would rather see him fight Silva for the middle weight champion, that would be an easy fight for Dan d man Henderson. cause he is a very talented fighter with a good takedown.

can anyone please tell me when Babalu will be fighting again?
please im on my knees! what me to repeat that? ha what up st. amour this is your buddy woof!!

I like Franklin to beat Okami and i also like Franklin to beat Silve when they fight again, Franklin had an off night and Silve is over-rated

I like Franklin to beat Okami and i also like Franklin to beat Silve when they fight again, Franklin had an off night and Silva is over-rated, but who knows this match could go either way if Okami brings his A game and Franklin is slightly under 100%

Hey, Chuck got caught. I’m not gonna make excuses for my boy. I love Chuck to death. But Rampage was the better fighter (again) tonight. We all know there will be a 3rd (and possibly a 4th n 5th) just as long as it happens before chuck turns 40. Hendo is going to lose to RAMPAGE just to make it happen. And I’m drunk and it’s 3:38am EAST COAST bitches.

haha drunk posts hahaha

Rampage better enjoy the belt while he has it because the best Light Heavyweight in the world is Mauricio Shogun Hua and he’s gone whup that ass when he gets his shot. He already kicked Rampage’s ass in Pride.

Letter to Dana White, Shogun should fight for the title soon or your just wasting the time of all your fans.

He’ll use his Muay Thai shit on Rampage and it will be all over. Rampage doesn’t defend knees well at all.

Not suprising coming from a guy with the poster name, shogun. Rampage is a different fighter than he was back in the day. Training camps have a lot to do with it. To crown him champ already is obsurd. There are plenty that have a legit chance to upset him.

I like Franklin to beat Okami and i also like Franklin to beat Silve when they fight again, Franklin had an off night and Silva is over-rated, but who knows this match could go either way if Okami brings his A game and Franklin is slightly under 100%

Another quote from the “Chuckland”

“look guys st. amour is right Chuck will not lose he is better and stronger i mean why is everyone so pumped about Rampage he was average in PRIDE (never held the belt) beat Chuck years ago, KO’d by Wandy twice, and beat an old man in Round2 in his UFC debut Chuck will not and cannot lose to an average opponent in the octagon. IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!

Franklin had an off night and Silva is over-rated huh? Enough with the excuses Chuckland. It’s over and done with. Don’t take the Rampage/Chuck beating out on everyone else. I’m pretty sure everyone is laughing at your comments.

KPBJJ stop hating on my friend Chuckland. He is a good man and he is also full of opinions. He is just backing up his favorite fighters dats all. and one more thing not everyone is laughing at his comments. Yes he does make some excuses but give him a brake ok. Meow Chuckland MEow.

Excuses are like a@@holes, everyone has one!

I dont think(well in my mind) that Rampage was the underdog and that it was an upset. I said from the very start that Rampage was going to win, but i didn’t think in that fashion.

On another note- I came out of last night still liking Chuck, but also respecting Rampage and looking forward to his title defense(s). He’s got a great personality and is hilarious at times. One thing I hope he drops immediately however is the race thing – as we saw in his post-fight interview. That sh!t has no place in this or any sport. Sports are great because between the lines, it doesn’t matter what color you are. I was just as psyched for Din Thomas and Houston Alexander last night when they won their fights, and I’m a white guy. I judge a guy solely by whether he’s worth my interest and appreciation as a fan, and I think 99 out of 100 fans think like I do. Rampage – you’re too good in and out of the ring. Lose the race crap and calling yourself “n*gger” and be a CHAMPION in all facets. Can’t wait to see him defend the belt…

On another note- I came out of last night still liking Chuck, but also respecting Rampage and looking forward to his title defense(s). He’s got a great personality and is hilarious at times. One thing I hope he drops immediately however is the race thing – as we saw in his post-fight interview. That sh!t has no place in this or any sport. Sports are great because between the lines, it doesn’t matter what color you are. I was just as psyched for Din Thomas and Houston Alexander last night when they won their fights, and I’m a white guy. I judge a guy solely by whether he’s worth my interest and appreciation as a fan, and I think 99 out of 100 fans think like I do. Rampage – you’re too good in and out of the ring. Lose the race crap and calling yourself “n*gger” and be a CHAMPION in all facets. Can’t wait to see him defend the belt…

I agree even though I’m French/Canadian. I love all fighters that interest me. like GSP, Hermes FRanca(Brazilian),Gomi(Japan)etc.. I hope ufc dont get segregated.

I agree with the “Race Crap” – either drop it completely or form “Team Reparation” and exploit the Hell Out Of It!!!!

All of you on my Chuck jock cats that claim it was a lucky punch dont know S%#t about fighting. Rampage trained specifically for anything Chuck could do. First of all it was so obvious that Chuck was scared to death of Rampage when they got in the ring. That is the first time ive ever seen Chuck scared of anybody. As soon as Chuck fired his left hook to the body, Rampage covered and immediately fired his own right hook to the chin. Good night!!! Thats called training fellas, not luck. Quit judging and talking all this smack with your hearts and look at reality. Chuck dont want anymore of the Rampage. As far as the race crap i aint down with it, but i understand what he meant. Chuck Liddell is one classy dude, even in defeat…

yeah and they all stink lol.

LOL!! Good One J. Bang!! :)

I think they should have let Rampage land a few more shots to clearly finish it. They were stopping the fights a little early last night. Especially in the Championship fight. I don’t think Chuck was coming back, and it was an appropriate stoppage. But a Championship KO needs to thorough and I think the ref should have let Chuck get hit 1 or 2 more times to make sure he was truly knocked out. Chuck was arguing a little with the stoppage, and that’s why I think they should have let it go on for about 3 or 4 more seconds to finish it off. What do you think Bizarro?

While i wish they would have let it go a little further Big John did the right thing. We dont want to see anyone get permanantly hurt. Chucks whole body went limp for a second. Big John is trained to stop it instantly if he sees that non reative posture. If you saw a little later, Chuck had to ask his corner man what happened. Clean KO my my man…Rampage is a beast when he hurts you, no need to get the man killed in there. Then we have all the politicians protesting this great sport…

I think they should have let Rampage land a few more shots to clearly finish it. They were stopping the fights a little early last night. Especially in the Championship fight. I don’t think Chuck was coming back, and it was an appropriate stoppage. But a Championship KO needs to thorough and I think the ref should have let Chuck get hit 1 or 2 more times to make sure he was truly knocked out. Chuck was arguing a little with the stoppage, and that’s why I think they should have let it go on for about 3 or 4 more seconds to finish it off. What do you think Bizarro?

The guy was unconsious.

I know Chuck doesn’t typically look cut, but his gut was abnormally large compared to previous times I’d seen him. I noticed this and thought to myself, he’s not in as good a shape as he should be – even before the knockout.

I just wish I’d bet with my gut

A lot has been said on here so all i think i need to say is some of you guys need to watch more MMA. Hey and mayb train a bit aswell so that you dont waste precious posts by talking crap!

why do people want the fight to have been extended by 3-4 seconds. so chuck could get seriously hurt?

Oh and talking about dropping the race crap..i think theres a lot of redneck american fans who arent going to. but yeah lets try and ignore them and hope rampage doesnt keep bringing it up 2 much. gotta love him tho ay!

Oh and talking about dropping the race crap..i think theres a lot of redneck american fans who arent going to. but yeah lets try and ignore them and hope rampage doesnt keep bringing it up 2 much. gotta love him tho ay!

there are rednecks everywhere you go so dont just single out the americans.

I know Chuck doesn’t typically look cut, but his gut was abnormally large compared to previous times I’d seen him. I noticed this and thought to myself, he’s not in as good a shape as he should be – even before the knockout.

I just wish I’d bet with my gut

or bet on Chuck’s gut.

While i wish they would have let it go a little further Big John did the right thing. We dont want to see anyone get permanantly hurt. Chucks whole body went limp for a second. Big John is trained to stop it instantly if he sees that non reative posture. If you saw a little later, Chuck had to ask his corner man what happened. Clean KO my my man…Rampage is a beast when he hurts you, no need to get the man killed in there. Then we have all the politicians protesting this great sport…

While i wish they would have let it go a little further Big John did the right thing…..

This is why I made the comment in the first place…. You said it yourself too. There was this little voice inside that said “Too soon!” In a championship KO, it’s got to be total annihilation. Chuck was knocked out for a millisecond. Then he woke up, and he probably could have taken 2 – 3 more shots before McCarthy stepped in. What point that makes, I don’t know… but as a fight fan last night I just thought overall that they were stopping fights too soon. I’m as big of a Liddell fan that there is, and I’m just saying what he would have wanted too. I know that if he is going to lose, he wants to be taken out on a stretcher, not stopped before he’s totally knocked out. That’s the way Liddell would have wanted it. You guys out there know you were thinking the same thing.

After I watched the Cro Cop knockout, I thought to myself that if somebody gets killed in this thing, it could all get shut down. That’s probably why they were so “stop happy” last night. In the past they have usually let things go 1 – 2 more good shots before they stop. Chuck would have wanted the same thing for him, so there was no room to argue at the end of the fight. There was some slight controversy at the end of the fight about the stoppage, and 1 or 2 more bombs would have ended it cleanly. Oh well. Hopefully Chuck will come back, but I don’t think after an ass whoopin like that that you can come back and be the same. We’ll see…

What’s Rampage’s IQ?

I’ve never seen that look on Chuck’s face when he fought someone…almost as if he was feeling the pressure of being pitted against an opponent he couldn’t figure out… It looked like he was afraid to lose, almost a tentative feeling. Like this time he was the hunted, and not the hunter. Jees this sucks I was hoping to stay on this wave and I guess now I’m just going to focus in on seeing Rampage get his ass whooped. I really wanted to see Chuck get him up against the fence and give him the haymakers that we’re used to. Who’s going to be the next big thing like Chuck was?

I’ve never seen that look on Chuck’s face when he fought someone…almost as if he was feeling the pressure of being pitted against an opponent he couldn’t figure out… It looked like he was afraid to lose, almost a tentative feeling. Like this time he was the hunted, and not the hunter. Jees this sucks I was hoping to stay on this wave and I guess now I’m just going to focus in on seeing Rampage get his ass whooped. I really wanted to see Chuck get him up against the fence and give him the haymakers that we’re used to. Who’s going to be the next big thing like Chuck was?

Rampage stated in his pre-fight interview, “You can’t always have what you want”. That goes for you Stunned. Face it your boy Chuck got smashed on and there’s no need to hate on the NEW LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMP RAMPAGE JACKSON! Why sit back and wait to see Rampage get his ass whipped? Who cares? He has the belt now and put up a damn good smashing fair and square. We all have our favorites and they lose from time to time, but it’s all good. There’s no need for hating.

What’s Rampage’s IQ?

450k iq last night. Whole lotta more k iq’s to come. He will be the most marketable fighter in the ufc if he keeps winning. He is smart enough to know people either love you or hate you, so why not capitalize on both sides. Loved the comment after the fight about the fans booing him having boo boo breath. Chuck is class, but very boring. Rampage is going to take his iq’s all the way to the bizank…

450k iq last night. Whole lotta more k iq’s to come. He will be the most marketable fighter in the ufc if he keeps winning. He is smart enough to know people either love you or hate you, so why not capitalize on both sides. Loved the comment after the fight about the fans booing him having boo boo breath. Chuck is class, but very boring. Rampage is going to take his iq’s all the way to the bizank…

Right there with you Dadubsta!

A fool and his money will soon be parted. Rampage should just call up Mike Tyson right now, get an eight ball and some bird seed, because you know as well as I do that after UFC’s all done Rampage will be right up there on that rooftop with rusted Iron Mike feeding those damn pigeons like a crackhead! I swear they’ve probably got cue cards that say “I’m gonna whoop Chuck’s ass!” Get this guy back into 3rd grade!

It was not by any mreans early stoppage. He was gone.
And that was the most non-lucky punch I have ever seen.
Covers up takes a lttlel body shot by Liddell, looks up at Liddell with a particular target in mind nad throws. Very skill oriented hit in my opinion. I have to hand to Rampage, don’t hate on him, Rampage is the man. And hopefuly Chuck will be back also.

I’m just joking about Rampage. He was funny after the fight talking shit during the interview with Joe Rogan saying “Ohhh, Ohhh, yes, the ref definetely made the right decision. Good stop, ref. Good stop!” And he talked shit to the crowd. He’s definetely tough, and the dangerous thing about him being like Mike Tyson is that he probably can’t be knocked out very easily. If you wouldn’t have known who these guys were before they stepped in the ring, it looked like Rampage was the bigger, stronger, faster fighter. Chuck actually looked smaller and slower than I remember. Maybe Rampage is the next big thing. Let’s see how long it lasts…

People make me laugh when they say things like they “knew” rampage would win, it so easily could have gone the other way. Rampage may be a beast but so is liddel, liddel got caught it happens. Liddel is all class and Rampage is an idiot who behaves like he is either retarded or insane. Liddel did seem scared of Jackson which is uncharacteristic of the iceman who usually comes across as very confident. I still consider this an upset because I still think chuck is the better overall fighter. I think if the two fought 9 more times chuck would win 6 of those and jackson would win 3, I would say chuck has a 60 % chance of beating rampage and with rampage being 40%. Still thats pretty close and that really isn’t much of an upset but still an upset. NOBODY has an iron chin, don’t delude yourself that rampage can’t get knocked out, I guarantee you that he can. Rampage had a good night, chuck had a bad night it’s as simple as that, but unfortunately for chuck he won’t get another crack at rampage for at least a couple fights.

People make me laugh when they say things like they “knew” rampage would win, it so easily could have gone the other way. Rampage may be a beast but so is liddel, liddel got caught it happens. Liddel is all class and Rampage is an idiot who behaves like he is either retarded or insane. Liddel did seem scared of Jackson which is uncharacteristic of the iceman who usually comes across as very confident. I still consider this an upset because I still think chuck is the better overall fighter. I think if the two fought 9 more times chuck would win 6 of those and jackson would win 3, I would say chuck has a 60 % chance of beating rampage and with rampage being 40%. Still thats pretty close and that really isn’t much of an upset but still an upset. NOBODY has an iron chin, don’t delude yourself that rampage can’t get knocked out, I guarantee you that he can. Rampage had a good night, chuck had a bad night it’s as simple as that, but unfortunately for chuck he won’t get another crack at rampage for at least a couple fights.

There you go jocking Chuck. I predicted Chuck would get beaten by Rampage and anyone else that can strike. Look at all of Chucks past fights with your mind and not your heart. The best striker he ever fought was either Vernon Tiger White (who happens to be my homie) and a so so fighter. (sorry dog) or the natural Randy Couture, who is known more for his wrestling ability than striking.In the first fight he whooped Chucks ass by striking and slamming him. Who is better at that combination than Rampage. Randy even told all you chuck biters, that Rampage was a bad matchup for the Chuckster.. They would never fight nine more times as you say because you could see in Chucks eyes he dont want no more to do with this dude. He just has your boys number. I train all the time and know what i see, Rampage was fully ready for anything Chuck could do. The first uppercut chuck threw Rampage blocked and instantly fired his own shot. You could see right there chuck wanted no part of an exchange. You know what happened a few seconds later when he fired his dumb ass left hook. His eyes were rolling up in his head. You are right when you say anyone can be knocked out, but chuck aint the one that can do it to rampage. Take chucks big right hand away and he is lost. Dont let what he did to tito, randy, babalu and whoever else get you confused. None were real strikers with a big neck and big ass skull. Put both fights together and its clear chuck cant fade the page…Some of yall need to quit and get a real clue. just calling it like it is…

And as far as rampages retardation. You really dont have a clue. You just hatin because ya boy got his ass whooped. Rampage is far from being dumb my man. chaa ching…$$$ dollar signs baby. I garantee you he wants a rematch with chuck, thats just some more chaa ching… Chuck better stay away from any true striker…PERIOD..

I thought Rampage would win not because I think he is more skillful, just because he is able to take and absorb more punishment than Chuck. Striking wise they are probably pretty even but I beleived Rampage to have the harder chin. Chuck is one of my favourite fighters, but if you fight a striker with a harder jaw, there can only be one result when going toe to toe. And if they fought again 9 more times Rampage’s chin would still be superior and that is why Chuck would lose, not because of technique or skill. Look at the punishment Wanderlai dished out on him before he went down, but when Chuck got beaten by Randy, he went down with a hell of a lot less, a lot quicker. Without doubt Chuck is one of the best strikers in the world, but Rampage has definately got his number.

Ok, welcome new ppl. No need to brag about picking Rampage. More then 50 per cent of us here who post regularly picked Page. So, get over it.
And, STUNNED, if your just here to troll, we dont need it. You make some good points, but the Mike Tyson and bird seed commnents arent needed. Peace, MTU.

Early stoppage? Are you nuts? Chuck got knocked out man. I do not want to see someone die in the octagon – that would kill what is easily the hottest sport on the planet right now. And since Chuck is a class act and an asset to the game, I don’t wanna see him get permanently injured. Good stoppage by Big John and a well deserved KO for RJ.

Rampage is NOT a dumb guy, in my opinion. When he leaves out the race stuff, his post-fight interviews are pure comedy. Someone else alluded to it earlier – when he said as he was watching the tape “Yeah, it coulda gone on – uh, wait, nope – the ref did the right thing” I laughed my ass off. He has wit and sense of comedic timing, and dumb people don’t have that.

Let’s move on tho – my question to my boys on the blog: is Gabe Gonzalez gonna beat Couture? Cannot WAIT for that fight!!! It’ll be like two badass grizzlies going claw to claw in the wild. Only thing that sucks is Couture won’t be able to make an unbiased pick pre-fight, so we can’t bang the bookies! :-)

And as far as rampages retardation. You really dont have a clue. You just hatin because ya boy got his ass whooped. Rampage is far from being dumb my man. chaa ching…$$$ dollar signs baby. I garantee you he wants a rematch with chuck, thats just some more chaa ching… Chuck better stay away from any true striker…PERIOD..

   If you read carefully what I wrote I said he BEHAVES either retarded or insane, the man just comes across as a freak to me, I don’t like the guy or anyone else that acts insane, and for the record I don’t find him funny just weird. Liddel is far from my boy I don’t even really like him I feel more neutral towards him, I just like him better than rampage thats all. The fact I think chuck is a better fight than rampage is just MY observation on the two’s fighting skills, rampage is a good fighter but I’ve seen some of his recent fights where he just didn’t look too impressive. I don’t think Diego is a better striker than Riggs and I definitely don’t thing Serra is a better striker than St.Pierre but both guys lost to lesser strikers in my opinion, it happens quite often. Like Serra said when you zigg instead of zagg your nights over, just because a fighter makes a mistake I don’t suddenly think his opponent has his number, maybe he did that night but its no guarantee he can repeat that the next time. Rampage is a good striker, I just don’t think hes better than chuck thats all, you can argue your points till your blue in the face, you won’t change how I see things and I won’t change your mind, bottom line we see things differently like everyone else.

I started thinking about what would happen if Liddell and Jackson fought 10 times as well. The most we’ll probably get is one more time. I think unfortunately Chuck got EXPOSED big time. It’s hard to say that but I think it’s true. Chuck saw a monster in front of him and for the first time, and everybody here agrees…the look in Chuck’s eyes definetely give me a hint of what was going to happen. I’ve been watching fighting and sports and long time, and when somebody’s got that look, it’s usually fear and pressure. Chuck never had that in any previous fights. At this time I think Chuck would have a 20% – 30% chance of beating Jackson, basically a punchers chance. Liddell looked confused, and Rampage definetely had a tune up on his boxing before this fight. What a surprise though! This is the biggest upset in the history of the UFC in my mind.

If you read carefully what I wrote I said he BEHAVES either retarded or insane, the man just comes across as a freak to me, I don’t like the guy or anyone else that acts insane, and for the record I don’t find him funny just weird. Liddel is far from my boy I don’t even really like him I feel more neutral towards him, I just like him better than rampage thats all. The fact I think chuck is a better fight than rampage is just MY observation on the two’s fighting skills, rampage is a good fighter but I’ve seen some of his recent fights where he just didn’t look too impressive. I don’t think Diego is a better striker than Riggs and I definitely don’t thing Serra is a better striker than St.Pierre but both guys lost to lesser strikers in my opinion, it happens quite often. Like Serra said when you zigg instead of zagg your nights over, just because a fighter makes a mistake I don’t suddenly think his opponent has his number, maybe he did that night but its no guarantee he can repeat that the next time. Rampage is a good striker, I just don’t think hes better than chuck thats all, you can argue your points till your blue in the face, you won’t change how I see things and I won’t change your mind, bottom line we see things differently like everyone else.[/quote]
The first time they fought RPJ beat him even worse. Made his ass scream like a bitch when he crushed his rib cage. Second time around clean KO. After these two fights (repeat performance)and you still think CL is better. I dont need to argue till im blue in the face homie, and i dont give a crap about changing yo mind, and it is yo right to see things differently. I just pointed out that you dont know a damn thing about what you’re talking about. Make some sense cause CL is obviously ya boy or ya cousin. Plain and simple he got his ass whooped (twice) by a better fighter. And my main point was is RPJ dont give a shit if you like him or not, what makes him so smart is he made you dislike him so much you’re going to dish out another $40 just hoping somebody can whoop his ass. Like i said my man chaa ching. fat ass $$$

Another thing about ya boy CL. You mentioned Diego and the terror (gone kick matt hughes ass). Those cats are way more well rounded as fighters than CL. They have the ability to do many more things if they have to switch up. Cmon man when is the last time you seen chuck changeup in a fight. Like i said before if you take away what he does best he is lost. A great fighter can change in mid fight if he has to.

Ok, welcome new ppl. No need to brag about picking Rampage. More then 50 per cent of us here who post regularly picked Page. So, get over it.
And, STUNNED, if your just here to troll, we dont need it. You make some good points, but the Mike Tyson and bird seed commnents arent needed. Peace, MTU.

Yupp, I picked Page also..But like dude said..I think it was more like 65-75% of UFCMANIACS picked for “page” Enough Said!

Rampage is a good striker, I just don’t think hes better than chuck thats all, you can argue your points till your blue in the face, you won’t change how I see things and I won’t change your mind, bottom line we see things differently like everyone else.

Nathan, have you SEEN QRJ vs CL I & QRJ vs CL II or are you vision impaired & only able to listen to the commentary?

What a surprise though! This is the biggest upset in the history of the UFC in my mind

Seriously, who are you people? Do you even read the many posts inside of each thread or do you just post your own thoughts & walk away from the keyboard?

Nathan, have you SEEN QRJ vs CL I & QRJ vs CL II or are you vision impaired & only able to listen to the commentary?

Rampage is a good striker, I just don’t think hes better than chuck thats all,

Nathan, this is what you said that I took issue with. Based solely on this statement, it is not a matter of opinion, although you are certainly entitled to yours. I hate to keep repeating this fact but Chuck hasnt fought another striker since Page in ‘03 so theres nothing to measure his striking ability against. Yes, CL is a devastating puncher but a great striker? THat has yet to be proven until he meets a couple other high level strikers in the octagon. I’m not expecting you to abandon CL as a fan, just want to open your eyes a bit.

Sometimes I agree with some things that you say Nathan & after this I’m sure you’ll make other valid points where I’ll agree with you but this one I had to push back on.

You make some good points machine, I really can’t argue with the fact that chuck hasn’t fought a great striker…..did he ever fight a great striker?, can’t remember. I’ve thought about what you said and I agree, chuck has fought a lot of grapplers who couldn’t get him down and he hits like a truck, so its just a matter of time. To be completely honest the more I thought about what I wrote the more I started doubting my own words, Randy is a f**king genius and he said stylistic wise rampage was a bad match for chuck and that bothered me. The more I think about it the more I can see was Randys was talking about. Rampage isn’t intimidated by anyone, has a concrete block for a head and is strong as hell. I guess the point I was really trying to bring home was one fight doesn’t sum things up for a fighter thats all. I still think Chuck had a bad night for gods sake the first real punch rampage threw, knocked chuck down, maybe rampage does have chucks number and style wise he’s the man to beat liddel. But you have to agree chuck had a bad night, not that rampage wouldn’t have eventually won but chuck can usually take a pretty good hit. Sometimes I do go off before I really think about what I’m writing but I’m not too proud to change my views.

Rampage is a good striker, I just don’t think hes better than chuck thats all,

Nathan, this is what you said that I took issue with. Based solely on this statement, it is not a matter of opinion, although you are certainly entitled to yours. I hate to keep repeating this fact but Chuck hasnt fought another striker since Page in "03 so theres nothing to measure his striking ability against. Yes, CL is a devastating puncher but a great striker? THat has yet to be proven until he meets a couple other high level strikers in the octagon. I’m not expecting you to abandon CL as a fan, just want to open your eyes a bit.

MACHINE: Agree with every word, I now am really buying into the whole thing about how Chuck has not faced a striker in so long, not to say he can’t hang, but when you go that long without legit competition, I can see how he couldnt hang that night. Rampage on the other hand has GREATLY improved his striking it looks to me. You worded that perfect, Liddell is a devastating puncher but a great striker has yet to really be proven.

Seriously, who are you people? Do you even read the many posts inside of each thread or do you just post your own thoughts & walk away from the keyboard?

BS, again, Machine, I was about to quote and reply to this comment myself when I saw you beat me to it. Maybe they have never heard of Rampage. That is the only explanation I can think of.
I hope he beats Shogun, I wouldnt mind seeing many defensed to come from Rampage, and I predict we will.

Karo Parisyan’s post fight borat singing… anybody got a link??

I really like having The Anomaly and Machine around.

I really like having The Anomaly and Machine around

MTU, thanks for co-signing us & welcoming us in. I’m glad to have finally stumbled onto this sight. I’m almost addicted to it. Anyway, just to get it out of the way, I’m sure we’ll agree to disagree sometimes but I’m always open to have my mind changed & you’ve already managed to do that for me on a few subjects. Question: how long have you been fending off trollers & clueing in the “clueless” here?

You make some good points machine, I really can’t argue with the fact that chuck hasn’t fought a great striker…..did he ever fight a great striker?, can’t remember. I’ve thought about what you said and I agree, chuck has fought a lot of grapplers who couldn’t get him down and he hits like a truck, so its just a matter of time. To be completely honest the more I thought about what I wrote the more I started doubting my own words, Randy is a f**king genius and he said stylistic wise rampage was a bad match for chuck and that bothered me. The more I think about it the more I can see was Randys was talking about. Rampage isn’t intimidated by anyone, has a concrete block for a head and is strong as hell. I guess the point I was really trying to bring home was one fight doesn’t sum things up for a fighter thats all. I still think Chuck had a bad night for gods sake the first real punch rampage threw, knocked chuck down, maybe rampage does have chucks number and style wise he’s the man to beat liddel. But you have to agree chuck had a bad night, not that rampage wouldn’t have eventually won but chuck can usually take a pretty good hit. Sometimes I do go off before I really think about what I’m writing but I’m not too proud to change my views.

Nathan, thanks for being cool about this. I always read your posts & I hope you continue to read mine. Here’s to butting heads in the future CHEERS :)

I really like having The Anomaly and Machine around.

haha right on man. Hey I already asked in some other arcticle, but is there any new news on where Fedor is headed?

It was a good show; these days however, any card is lacking if it doesn’t feature the best pound-for-pounder on the planet = The Terror

Anomaly and Machine: good boy, now fetch!

haha right on man. Hey I already asked in some other arcticle, but is there any new news on where Fedor is headed?

I thought I had read somewhere here on this sight that Dana is actively pursueing Fedor. Thats all that I know right now. I do know that Fedor’s contract is not exlusive to Pride & that he holds the right to fight anyone as long as it’s on his native soil of Russia. I’m no expert on contracts but that sounds to me like Fedor has ALOT of control over his career which could spell trouble for the UFC being that they specialize in “owning” fighters.

YOU MIGHT AS WELL GIVE RUA THE BELT CUZ HE’LL OWN IT FOR A LONG TIME.

Shogun and Chuck would be a great match. If he can beat Chuck, or any other LHW contendars, then come talk to me.

HE MADE RAMPAGE LOOK LIKE A COMPLETE GREENHORN, IMAGINE TITO OR JARDINE

YOU MIGHT AS WELL GIVE RUA THE BELT CUZ HE’LL OWN IT FOR A LONG TIME.

He wont own anything but he will get OWNED BY THE ICEMAN