UFC 71: Goldberg confirms the signing of Mauricio "Shogun"Rua

Ya know, I can see the UFC screwing up the promotion of this guy.

And yes, you right. Last night, I asked 4 guys who had just come from Gators watching the fights, and I asked them what they thought of the Shogun signing…. crickets. So, he really does need some buildup prior to his title shot. 205 is gettig deeper and deeper.

NOW SIGN DENIS KANG DAMMIT!

MTU, when you referring to something that was going to happen, but just wasn’t announced yet, I was thinking it would be the signing of Kang.

This would be a nightmare for Rampage if he has to face him again.

Ya know, I can see the UFC screwing up the promotion of this guy.

And yes, you right. Last night, I asked 4 guys who had just come from Gators watching the fights, and I asked them what they thought of the Shogun signing…. crickets. So, he really does need some buildup prior to his title shot. 205 is gettig deeper and deeper.

NOW SIGN DENIS KANG DAMMIT!

I hope you’re wrong about the Shogun promotion. It would be a crime to misrepresent a talent like that.

Also, the fact that Goldberg mentioned Kang, as Din Thomas walked into the cage, makes me think that we will see him soon. The middleweight division could use just a bit more talent.

I think they need to give Shogun a high profile opponent. Someone we all know, and that the casual fans think is really good. Griffin or Bisping come to mind. Hell, maybe even Bonnar.

I say they feed him Bonnar or Griffin. Especially since neither have one punch KO power but rather a penchant for taking abuse & swinging for the fences. That’d be a worthy intro for Shogun.

So who is left in Pride…I mean seriously, it seems like the UFC simply aquired Pride only to take its best fighters…what happened to these speculated super matchups between Pride and the UFC?…doesnt make sense if the UFC has all of the top contenders.

This would be a nightmare for Rampage if he has to face him again.

Nah, that first fight really means nothing.

MTU, when you referring to something that was going to happen, but just wasn’t announced yet, I was thinking it would be the signing of Kang.

I spent a good part of this week working on 2 stories. If the 71 signing was gonna be the guy I keep hearing, and something about Liddell. NO on one, and nothing concrete or journalistic about 2. Lotta wasted time….

Props to Din Thomas for calling out mayweather for talking sh*t

Babalu beat Shogun

Props to Din Thomas for calling out mayweather for talking sh*t

it makes up for his sorry performance

So who is left in Pride…I mean seriously, it seems like the UFC simply aquired Pride only to take its best fighters…what happened to these speculated super matchups between Pride and the UFC?…doesnt make sense if the UFC has all of the top contenders.

Reminds me of when WWE bought WCW, signed the top stars, and flushed the rest down the toilet. They got what they wanted, a few good talents and a massive tape library.

Sound familiar?

So who is left in Pride…I mean seriously, it seems like the UFC simply aquired Pride only to take its best fighters…what happened to these speculated super matchups between Pride and the UFC?…doesnt make sense if the UFC has all of the top contenders.

Dana White said he already wanted to get all the best fighters in the UFC.

I say they feed him Bonnar or Griffin. Especially since neither have one punch KO power but rather a penchant for taking abuse & swinging for the fences. That’d be a worthy intro for Shogun.

That would be a similar formula to the Leben/Anderson Silva fight. Using the TUF guys, who the average fan knows, as fodder for entering, but less well-known to less-knowledgable fans, fighters seems like a good strategy.

why not alexander for shogun, he just destroyed a “top fighter” within a minute, and shogun beating him would def help his name and the ufc prob wouldn’t care too much

Shogun could easily fight rampage tommorow and give rampage a good run for his money… the guy is sick in every aspect of the game…. he has great hands that rival chucks… not the punching power but better technically…. and his ground game is sick.. he trains at chute box with wandy so you know his grappling is top… he deserves to get just as much promotion as rampage if not more… but good idea in fighting a popular but not as good ultimate fighter… but i doubt Bisping cuz thats Dana’s golden boy for spreading UFC world wide so dont look for him to fight huge names soon… if griffin beats hector ramirez at 72 he should fight Shogun.

I don’t think he should or will fight Bisping; I might be in the minority but I think (obviously don’t know until he fights a real challenge) that Bisping has more potential than any TUF alum.

So who is left in Pride…I mean seriously, it seems like the UFC simply aquired Pride only to take its best fighters…what happened to these speculated super matchups between Pride and the UFC?…doesnt make sense if the UFC has all of the top contenders.

They don’t need a once a year superbowl thing if they are all in one org. anyway, the whole point is that we get to see these match ups, and now we do, it’s better this way.
And I don’t think they will give him HA, that guy has some potential it would be a pitty to kill him off now, give him Bisbing Forrest or Bonner.
How do you guys thing a Bisbing Vs. Forrest match up would be?

…what happened to these speculated super matchups between Pride and the UFC?…doesnt make sense if the UFC has all of the top contenders.

Indeed, all the match ups between the great fighters will really make the trademark/reputation war between Price and UFC seem less interesting.

I don’t think he should or will fight Bisping; I might be in the minority but I think (obviously don’t know until he fights a real challenge) that Bisping has more potential than any TUF alum.

Really? Bisping more so than Diego Sanchez, Kendall Grove or Rashad Evans? I can understand that you may personally prefer Bisping over those three but I think it’s a stretch to say that he has more potential than any TUF alum.

Indeed, all the match ups between the great fighters will really make the trademark/reputation war between Price and UFC seem less interesting.

Did you guys want to see it for the sake of Pride Vs. UFC, or because otherwise, one would never get to see Shogun Vs. Liddell, Jacson Vs. Hendo, Wandi Vs. Tito or whatever.
I think you guys are missing the whole point of these “super match ups”. It’s just a chance to let down the the organizational barrier and let both guys fight that otherwise, wouldn’t.

I think Rampage would stay the champ for a while. He talks alot of trash to his opponent though. As far as Rua vs. Rampage i think it would be an awesome fight. Rampage would win cause as what he said in the interview he would train even harder cause he is the champ now.

Well, to be totally honest, i think that the Japanese fans got screwed. What if Pride would have bought the UFC and lured all of its top contenders over to Japan, thus leaving the UFC with “no name” fighters?

I think Rampage would stay the champ for a while. He talks alot of trash to his opponent though. As far as Rua vs. Rampage i think it would be an awesome fight. Rampage would win cause as what he said in the interview he would train even harder cause he is the champ now.

please, did you see the beat down? nothing was wrong with his ribs(well, maybe after the fight but not before) Rua would murder him once again

Well, to be totally honest, i think that the Japanese fans got screwed. What if Pride would have bought the UFC and lured all of its top contenders over to Japan, thus leaving the UFC with “no name” fighters?

No i’m not arguing that really, I mean yeah it was business competition and that sucks, but I mean i’m in it for the pure MMA aspect of it, who is the best, and when Pride and UFC were seperate you had some of the best here, and some there, who was REALLY teh best? Now they can settle that, that’s what im hyped on, not the fact to organizations are pitting themselves against one another. But yeah it does suck for them over there, hopefully over the years MMA will become more and more international, becoming mroe like soccer, where it is all over the world, and less like baseball and football, virtually only in the states.

Nah, that first fight really means nothing.

Yo MTUFC, did Rampage really fight Shogun with a hurt rib?

Rampage wasnt hurt when he fought Shogun, he was sure hurt afterwards ha, dont make excuses for him, Wandy didnt make excuses for losing to Dan even though he just got out off the hospital, look he took a beating and if and when they fight again nothing will change

Rampage wasnt hurt when he fought Shogun, he was sure hurt afterwards ha, dont make excuses for him, Wandy didnt make excuses for losing to Dan even though he just got out off the hospital, look he took a beating and if and when they fight again nothing will change

Harsh word my friend, love him or hate him Rampage is the champ now.

Shogun will be an awesome singing for UFC but makes me think whats left of Pride if they keep taking their best talent. If they do a ufc vs pride it would be kind of one side if ufc hold the top fights.

Looks like we’ll see the Chuck and Wandy fight because Chuck got his ass handed to him.

sokudojo or what ever that black judo guys name is gonna be the next big thing…

sokoudjou… the ufc needs to get him

They don’t need a once a year superbowl thing if they are all in one org. anyway, the whole point is that we get to see these match ups, and now we do, it’s better this way.
And I don’t think they will give him HA, that guy has some potential it would be a pitty to kill him off now, give him Bisbing Forrest or Bonner.
How do you guys thing a Bisbing Vs. Forrest match up would be?

bisping v forrest

forrest would cicle and croud bisping both would trade punches and kicks, look for bisping to take it to the ground, woul either be a decision or a knockout similar to forrest v jardine

Yo MTUFC, did Rampage really fight Shogun with a hurt rib?

I’ve never heard that, ever.

i fail to see how shogun owning page doesn’t mean anything? shogun beat him like a red headed step child until he collapsed in the corner and got saved by the ref. complete ownage. im not sold on page yet, anyone can land a good shot. look at crocop vs gonzaga or serra vs. gsp. it only takes one punch. i want to see another page fight against someone worthy before im convinced he has the goods to hold the belt for awhile.

i fail to see how shogun owning page doesn’t mean anything? shogun beat him like a red headed step child until he collapsed in the corner and got saved by the ref. complete ownage. im not sold on page yet, anyone can land a good shot. look at crocop vs gonzaga or serra vs. gsp. it only takes one punch. i want to see another page fight against someone worthy before im convinced he has the goods to hold the belt for awhile.

Look up the Rampage v Murilo Ninja Rua fight.

Btw, if you already havent heard, the Pride acquisition is complete.

while the kick was in the same line as serra gonzaga dominated cro cop, not the same

Ya know, I can see the UFC screwing up the promotion of this guy.

And yes, you right. Last night, I asked 4 guys who had just come from Gators watching the fights, and I asked them what they thought of the Shogun signing…. crickets. So, he really does need some buildup prior to his title shot. 205 is gettig deeper and deeper.

NOW SIGN DENIS KANG DAMMIT!

For anyone who doesnt know Denis Kang, here’s a highlight:
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/denis+kang/video/xr099_denis-kang-highlight
I think you’ll agree, he’s one of these most well rounded fighters alive.

Yeah, you really can’t judge the Rampage/Shogun fight by the last one, there was so much going on then. And now, Rampage is a level above where he was. Like I was saying, that was the most non-lucky KO punch I have seen. The way he covered up then LOOKED up at his target, threw and nailed it bullseye. I would be very interested to see Rampage fight Wandi again, or Shogun.

I honstly don’t know how Shogun is gonig to do int the UFC. A huge part of Chute boxe’s repetoir is kicking people while thier down and now you can’t do that anymore. I don’t even think they can do that in pride anymore, once they eventualy have a fight after being purchased. I wish there was an organization somewhere where the rules allowed kicking a downed opponent, knees to the head on the ground and elbows to the head. Maybe somewhere in thailand eventually. Of course Shogun is still awsome and I have no doubts about him beating 95% of people in the ufc.

So is Dan Henderson signed to the UFC? or is this the first PRIDE/UFC super event cross over? Whats the deal? I hope he’s in

So is Dan Henderson signed to the UFC? or is this the first PRIDE/UFC super event cross over? Whats the deal? I hope he’s in

From what I hear…
Hendo is signed to ZUFFA/Pride Worldwide, not the UFC. This all came about once the sale was finalized.

Shogun will do fine for 2 reasons. He already has fought under these rules at Pride 33 and destroyed Overeem. Second, Poop Chute Boxe has always trained both styles of rules, since they have fighters in both orgs.
No worries. Shogun will do fine. They just need to feed him some chum to build up the fan base, maybe Forrest or Bonnar.

Yo MTUFC, did Rampage really fight Shogun with a hurt rib?
I’ve never heard that, ever.

I actually did hear this somewhere in an interview. I just cant recall where or whether the rib injury was before or during the fight. I’m thinking it was somewhere on youtube or sherdog. I know thats pretty vague but I know I heard this before.

i fail to see how shogun owning page doesn’t mean anything? shogun beat him like a red headed step child until he collapsed in the corner and got saved by the ref. complete ownage. im not sold on page yet, anyone can land a good shot. look at crocop vs gonzaga or serra vs. gsp. it only takes one punch. i want to see another page fight against someone worthy before im convinced he has the goods to hold the belt for awhile

You’re right, as a fan, if you are unfamiliar with a fighter then it’s very hard to approve of them with only having seen one fight. However, you have to trust that Rampage is the real deal. He has losses just like any seasoned MMA fighter you can think of but he is truly terror in the ring, even when he ultimately loses. Try going to youtube.com & searching quinton rampage jackson. Check out some of his many, many tribute films or HL (highlights) & you will get familiar very fast & see why so many have so much confidence in his abilities. Rampage has been handing out ass-whoopin’s for years.

fail to see how shogun owning page doesn’t mean anything? shogun beat him like a red headed step child until he collapsed in the corner and got saved by the ref. complete ownage. im not sold on page yet, anyone can land a good shot. look at crocop vs gonzaga or serra vs. gsp. it only takes one punch. i want to see another page fight against someone worthy before im convinced he has the goods to hold the belt for awhile

Also, after you get familiar with Rampage, go back & watch Ninja vs Rampage fight & then the Shogun vs Rampage fight again. You’ll see why some people dismiss the fight agains Shogun to some degree.

CHUCK IS NO MORE BUT A MEMORY NOW….HAJAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAAAA..

HA HA HA

can i just say this has to be the most exciting time to follow MMA , there’s sooo much going on its insane!

once bj penn comes back and fedor gets signed up, UFC will become the total package!

for me shogun will do great in any fight period, ufc, pride, wherever, you can just see from how he fights he is a born warrior. = awsome fights, wether he wins or loses (highly unlikley) lol

rampage got his rib broken by rua just to confirm, it was knee 40 secs in that got rampage goood.

wanderlei is an animal a real pitbull and i dnt just mean his face lol again awsome fights whenever hes in the ring

fedor? i mean DARTH FEDOR, the lord of the ring and the unquestionable number 1 fighter, ppl like liddel tell ppl on interviews they wana fight him but have you ever heard FEDOR do that??? nope why ? cuz he dont need to, ppl are begging him for fights cuz they know hes there benchmark, there moment of glory

in all like i say cant wait for sum more awsome fights! enjoy it ppl;

Also, after you get familiar with Rampage, go back & watch Ninja vs Rampage fight & then the Shogun vs Rampage fight again. You’ll see why some people dismiss the fight agains Shogun to some degree.

Im gonna be rooting for Rampage all the way on that one. Hope he beats Shogun. I really don’t see Wandi beating him anymore. Rampage’s new camp has really made a difference.

When Fedor comes to UFC. I give him 3, within 3 he will no longer be undefeated, mark my words. ; )

When Fedor comes to UFC. I give him 3, within 3 he will no longer be undefeated, mark my words. ; )

I am… I’m gonna hedge and say as long as he doesnt face CC.

from what i have heard, and basically see in the fight, Shogun broke Rampages rib during the fight with a knee…Rampage was visibally hurt, and told his corner, his corner did nothing…after that, he really had no defense

from what i have heard, and basically see in the fight, Shogun broke Rampages rib during the fight with a knee…Rampage was visibally hurt, and told his corner, his corner did nothing…after that, he really had no defense

That’s good to know, explains a lot. Def wanna see a ramatch.

I am… I’m gonna hedge and say as long as he doesnt face CC.

Im gonna be rooting for Rampage all the way on that one. Hope he beats Shogun. I really don’t see Wandi beating him anymore. Rampage’s new camp has really made a difference

I’m with you on this one. I’d have liked to see that fight go to the ground where I know Page would have overpowered Rua. Now, with Page home in the states, his money is right, his mind is clear, his training is finally where it should be, the world of 205 in MMA is his oyster.

I’m with you on this one. I’d have liked to see that fight go to the ground where I know Page would have overpowered Rua. Now, with Page home in the states, his money is right, his mind is clear, his training is finally where it should be, the world of 205 in MMA is his oyster.

Yeah, God I hope so.