damn, he called him a pussy, i think this is just chuck sticking up for his boy dana white, things changed with that boxing match when it was gonna be aired on tv and money started being made off of it and tito wasn’t getting any of that, i believe it was mostly a money issue, and maybe a little bit of tito not wanting to get embarrassed by not being able to dominate, who knows…

i don’t think tito was scared to lose though…

a deals a deal no matter how much you like tito spida. it was tito’s idea in the first place and he shouldn’t make excuses. i do on the other hand think tito was afraid to lose. i still have respect for tito’s fighting skills in mma but as a person he is a pussy.

If this whole situation is build up for LIDDELL VS ORTIZ 3 then it’s pretty lame. Liddell’s just toying with Ortiz because he knows he whooped his ass twice and that Tito Ortiz can’t stand the fact that Liddell has bragging rights. Dana White/Ortiz are both equally at fault for this. Dana got greedy and tried to make some money off this side show and Tito wanted his cut. Now they both look like clowns.

This is just more typical Tito crap. He asked for the fight, and Dana agreed to it. Now Tito is making up a bunch of nonsense about money, charities, fight agreements, etc. to try to get out of it. Tito signed the contract and won’t honor it because he knows if Dana wins, or even if Tito wins but doesn’t win decisively, then he becomes even less marketable than he is now. How long has it been since he’s beaten a top-level fighter? Tito is quickly becoming irrelevant, and things like this are the reason why.

Man, thats a lot of emotion from Chuck… never really see that.
Yes Chuck was grabbing Dana’s back…
Yes Dana would have rocked Tito…

Yeah I think Tito was worried about looking bad in front of people. He really should go to Japan where people might not know him as well and be threatened by his macro cephalus.

Truer words have never been spoken.

agree with chuck 100%. Tito’s antics are getting really annoying, let’s see him go out there and put on a good show for once.

I dont know whats going on with Tito on that one but for what ever reason he didnt want to show up thats his right,he obviously didnt sign a contract in blood,chuck needs to shut his face coz if he gets to personal with Tito then Tito wont stand for it and like he says he is a vicious fighter when its personal.Anyway Chuck needs to shut his stupid face and consentrate on Rampage coz 1 its none of his god damn buisness whats between Tito and Dana is between them and Chuck already licks Danas ring enough as it is,2 I have a feelin hes taking Rampage way too lightly and hes gonna end up being embarresed in the ocatagon come May26th and hel give Tito more fuel and hunger to finaly beat him.
I have a very strong feeling Chuck the “Iceman” is gonna get “crushed” May26th and I am placing a very large bet on Rampage
£15,000 actualy and thats about $30,000 roughly.

chuck needs to shut his face coz if he gets to personal with Tito then Tito wont stand for it and like he says he is a vicious fighter when its personal.

That’s really sound logic based on the razor-thin decisions Chuck eked out in his first two fights against Tito. Wait, he did what? He knocked Tito’s ass out? Twice??? Never mind.

I dont know whats going on with Tito on that one but for what ever reason he didnt want to show up thats his right,he obviously didnt sign a contract in blood,chuck needs to shut his face coz if he gets to personal with Tito then Tito wont stand for it and like he says he is a vicious fighter when its personal.Anyway Chuck needs to shut his stupid face and consentrate on Rampage coz 1 its none of his god damn buisness whats between Tito and Dana is between them and Chuck already licks Danas ring enough as it is,2 I have a feelin hes taking Rampage way too lightly and hes gonna end up being embarresed in the ocatagon come May26th and hel give Tito more fuel and hunger to finaly beat him.
I have a very strong feeling Chuck the “Iceman” is gonna get “crushed” May26th and I am placing a very large bet on Rampage
£15,000 actualy and thats about $30,000 roughly.

Sorry man, but you’ve reached an all time high ( or low ) of bullshit on this one. Tito is a joke, and if you have $30k laying around to wager on a single bet, you must be very well known. Oil? Stocks? Fertilizer?

Sorry man, but you’ve reached an all time high ( or low ) of bullshit on this one. Tito is a joke, and if you have $30k laying around to wager on a single bet, you must be very well known. Oil? Stocks? Fertilizer?

The term “talking out your ass” is now being represented by Mcanena exclusively. I’ve noticed this guy does alot of it. Ohhh yeah Tito is a monster when its personel, thats why he’s not the champ.

Tito hasn’t been shit since he gave up his belt instead of defending it against Chuck. Him and Jenna will have a porn out by the end of the year.

Rampage and Tito got similar raw wrestling styles, Rampage’s stand up and boxing just a bit better than Tito’s but his cardio is bad, I saw him smoking a cigarette or a joint walking around with Joe Rogan.
Iceman will punish him mad, either TKO or KO first or second round.
And as for Tito he is not a real fighter, he is pro pus*y fighter trying to make money off any lil gig and off his clothes. Chuck is a real fighter he will fight anyone, anywhere for free even in his backyard, cause fighting for him is like getting high, he just liked whooping ass, he is bad, mad mofo, unlike Tito who is a big blond mouth biatch.

To me someone who took a bankrupt sport and turned it into the monster it is today, where all us fans can watch the fights we’ve always dreamed of is right to make money off the deal. That’s what he does. Tito desides to call out Dana thinking he looks tough to do so, Dana calls his bluff and figures a way to make money. Tito can come up with 10,000 more excuses, upcoming fight, Dana was semi pro, not enough money for him, charities ect. All I can say to him is, excuses are the crutch of a cripled mind.

IF DANA IS SO HONEST AND TRUTHFULL WHY DOSNT HE LET US KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY HE HAS POCETED FROM THE LAST FEW UFC EVENTS COZ I GARUNTEE HIS PAY PACKET IS ASTRONOMICAL COMPARED TO THE BRAVE FIGHTERS WHO GIVE US THE FIGHTS WE WANT TO SEE WHILE DANA SITS CAGESIDE AND USES HIS CLAWS TO COUNT MONEY AND RUNS HIS MOUTH AT EVERY OPURTUNITY

I dont see Chuck fighting Tito anytime soon, especially if Chuck wins ( which he will lol), and if Rashad beats the hell outta Tito ( I’m hoping). Tito will then be at the bottom of the food chain. Hell, we might even see him on UFC Fight Night sooner or later, lol.

Wow! Did no-one bother to hear Tito’s side of the story? Yes, Tito had it in his contract that he would box Dana IN PRIVATE! Then Tito came up with the brilliant idea that they would put it on TV or the internet to make a profit off of it. Dana thought it was a good idea and so did Tito. When the time came to fight Tito was waiting to sign what is called a “BOUT AGREEMENT” which is signed before every MMA or Boxing fight. This allows for the fighter to make his paycheck for the fight and to make some of the profits from the gate, ppv buys etc…But in this case it was the profits for the airing of the show on Spike (note: Tito’s idea in the first place!) So, by signing this Tito would make some of the profit both off the fight itself and by sponsoring Punishment Athletics everywhere on the show and in turn Dana/Zuffa would make most of the profit. Dana did not create a bout agreement. (Probably because he was scared to fight Tito) So, Tito phoned ahead 3 DAYS IN ADVANCE to tell Dana that he would not show up without a Bout Agreement. Dana didn’t make one and WHAT DO YA KNOW Tito didn’t show up.

But Dana wanted to make Tito look like and ass and did the weigh-ins even after he knew 3 days before that Tito would not show up. The bad blood airing was an hour worth of TITO bashing and all of you gobbled it right up.

Let’s say before you went to work everyday in your work contract it said that to get paid you had to sign a paper before working everyday to say that on this day you will work x amount of hours for x amount of money, you would sign it! Then lets say you didn’t sign it and worked x amount of hours. Then at the end of the day your boss says sorry I can’t pay you because you didn’t sign this paper before you started to work! That little paper is like a bout agreement by Tito not signing it he would have made nothing and Dana would have made everything! I’m sorry but working for nothing is BULLSHIT! No-one here would do it! (Unless you want to be a slave!)

Just remember that Liddell is Dana’s bitch and Tito isn’t! Tito is the only one who stands up to Dana because no-one else has the BALLS to. Honestly I am sick and tired of Liddell running his mouth; he has the charisma of a freaking fly! If I wanted to see a boring fight that leads to a KO then I will just go watch boxing! That’s what Liddell should be a freaking BOXER! Liddell talks about Tito all the time because Tito will always be in his head win or lose!

Wtf is going on here?

Tito and Jenna can call their porn video, ‘Taking Punishment’ or maybe ‘Jenna does Team Punishment’. And people say Dana is a whore? Hmm.

you guys are acting like Tito’s washed up like come on the guy’s only 32 years old he still has alot of fighting left in him. Yeah he messed up on this one but don’t take anything away from his fighting he’s 5-1 in his last six fights. Plus he’s not a guy that tries to pad his record. Look at the fighters he’s been willing to fight.(Liddell, Ken Shamrock, Guy Metzger, Vitor Belfort, Forrest Griffin, Randy Couture,Wanderlei Silva, Rashad Evans) You can’t really call him a pussy. Yeah he’s a loud mouth bonehead, but that’s what makes people buy the ppv’s so you can see him get his head kicked in. I think this whole mess came down to money like it always does in sports.

i’ve said how i feel about the tito and dana white thing many times and i don’t know why chuck liddell is bringing this up again other than dana white being his boy and he knows people will listen to what he has to say and its even more pathetic than dana’s hour and a half tito bashathon, i will say that a lot of people say tito is giving excuses and all that, but dana white had a hour and a half show of nothing but trying to make himself the good guy and tito the bad guy, if tito had an hour and a half show where he could tell his side i bet there would be two different stories but people are gonna side with the one they like the most reguardless of their knowledge of the subject, the fact is that none of us know what was really in that contract, especially not chuck liddell, mcanena is right that it is none of chuck’s damn business for sure, all we know is what we’ve heard from dana’s let me try and turn every fan in the ufc against tito show that aired, i guess its working, everyone says tito is whining and this and that when he’s just trying to give his side of the story after dana white used an hour and a half of tv to give his, dana white is just as much in the wrong here as tito, sure tito didn’t show up for the “EXHIBITION”, but maybe because dana white turned it into a million dollar show and was keeping all the profits for himself when the contract said a behind the scenes “EXHIBITION”, i don’t know for sure thats what the contract said, but i believe even if it didn’t tito deserved a nice piece of that pie, and its obvious dana wasn’t sharing, this sport is a business just as much as a sport, dana white is def a better business man than most of us here and tito ortiz and he was trying to squeeze this thing for everything it was worth and to me made himself look bad, tito is a pro fighter that gets paid to fight, if it was gonna just be an “EXHIBITION” than dana should have just rented out a gym and boxed the dude instead of causing all this controversy and creating more dollars for himself and more negativity towards one of his biggest money makers in tito ortiz, i’m sure dana felt like if he had to give his time and effort for this thing that HE should prosper from it, but like pretty much all these ppvs and shows his fighter shouldn’t, i’m not gonna say ufc fighters are under paid because some get paid very nicely, but some get like 3 or 4 grand for a fight they train 3 months for, seems like someone is getting paid and someone isn’t and dana white’s pockets are always gonna be fat, i like what the dude is doing for the sport and for the ufc, but this is some seriously egotistic shit he is pulling for sure and a lot of you guys are falling for it, don’t buy into dana’s shit, lets all just forget about the “EXHIBITION” that never happened and will never happen…but as for tito as a fighter, tito is def a very very very good fighter and some of you guys don’t think so solely because of what dana white says, the dude has fought some very good fighters and beat them, he is no pussy, and he is a top 3 fighter in the lhw division until someone other than chuck beats him, and that is a fact, no up and comer like rahshad evans or any other who hasn’t fought anyone should be considered better than tito until they prove themselves on the big stage, rah is gonna have his chance in a few months, but until then tito is still higher on the list, you guys say tito hasn’t fought anyone recently, well thats bullshit, he fought chuck liddell, who has rahshad evans fought???? oh yeah he looked real good against sean salmon, that guy is a beast, c’mon let your attention spands spand a little farther than everyone’s last fight, tito is still a force, some of you will eat your words come 73, but i guess if he beats rahsahad that still won’t be good enough because if you don’t like him you don’t like him, i know it sounds like i’m a tito lover, but i’m not even that big of a fan of his, i like the dude for sure, but i was cheering for chuck when they fought and i was cheering for forrest when they fought, i’m just trying to look at this thing objectively and i don’t think a lot of you guys are, i think you’re just falling for the dana white bullshit…

Amen Mr. Liddell.

I dont see Chuck fighting Tito anytime soon, especially if Chuck wins ( which he will lol), and if Rashad beats the hell outta Tito ( I’m hoping). Tito will then be at the bottom of the food chain. Hell, we might even see him on UFC Fight Night sooner or later, lol.

I thought Tito was trying to get matches against some of the Pride guys like Wanderlei Silva and Henderson. Sounds like they put a microphone in front of Chuck on a bad day because why should he care that Tito makes a fool out of himself?

i’ve said how i feel about the tito and dana white thing many times and i don’t know why chuck
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Man, that is the longest post I’ve ever seen!

Dan Henderson v- Tito would be GREAT..
For Silva – Ortiz2, Im taking Wanderlei…

Spida… holy shit dude! Thats like a novel.

Im not saying Tito is washed up, Im saying his game is too common now. Back when he first walked into the UFC, he DOMINATED due to his ground and pound… you can see now that he is back, things arent as easy as they were, because his game is too common. Having no nitch, really does him in. He was one of the first gnp wrestlers, and he was good at it, back when jujitsu fighters were the only ones that went to the ground.

Tito cant hang with Chuck…
He wont be able to hang with Henderson or Wandi…
He is a good fighter, but not in the top teir of fighters anymore.

what kind of fighter puts it in his contract to fight his employer in the first place, that’s so WWE. tito did do alot fot this sport, the key word being DID, the only thing he has to offer now is to play the heel and have fans cheer against him. this will only last so long. who cares about the money he should have showed to fight his 40 year boss who hasen’t fought in years no matter what. tito better not lose to evans or no one will care about him anymore. i dont beleive everything dana says, but i dont beleive anything tito says at all. dont be fooled by tito, he is the one making a mockery of the sport.

Wow! Did no-one bother to hear Tito’s side of the story? Yes, Tito had it in his contract that he would box Dana IN PRIVATE!

This event was Tito’s brainchild from the start. A poorly thought out bullying gesture. Who would win if they really fought? DW would get smoked. White knew it but he ‘masterfully’ turned the whole thing into a spectacle and Tito slowly came to realize he was in a bad situation. If he beats up Dana White, what does that prove? Everyone will be saying “Tito can whip Ken Shamrock and Dana White”. And if he caught a lucky punch and White actually put him down or something, he would never hear the end of that.
Dana White went out of his way to kiss Tito’s behind to get him to come back to the UFC but then Tito hasn’t lived up to expectations since. So now he’s pissed. And when it comes to playing head games, I put my money on Dana White.

you guys are acting like Tito’s washed up like come on the guy’s only 32 years old he still has alot of fighting left in him. Yeah he messed up on this one but don’t take anything away from his fighting he’s 5-1 in his last six fights. Plus he’s not a guy that tries to pad his record. Look at the fighters he’s been willing to fight.(Liddell, Ken Shamrock, Guy Metzger, Vitor Belfort, Forrest Griffin, Randy Couture,Wanderlei Silva, Rashad Evans) You can’t really call him a pussy. Yeah he’s a loud mouth bonehead, but that’s what makes people buy the ppv’s so you can see him get his head kicked in. I think this whole mess came down to money like it always does in sports.

I couldn’t stand Ortiz before the TUF series he and Shamrock coached (TUF 4 or TUF 3?). During that series though I realized he is a master showman and when he acts like a dick, he’s just selling tickets. Currenly, he’s the #2 or #3 at light heavyweight. I think he’s good for the UFC in general but this boxing thing was poorly thought through from the start.

I gainted a LOT of respect for Tito as a person during the TUF series, Im with Mamas Boy..
But, with the shit he pulls… guy cant have all his screws tight. Its either he is so full of himself, thinking he is smarter and better then everyone else, not listening to reasoning. Or he might be mental…

So what is Tito going to Elite?

i didn’t even see PADDYCAKES’ post before i posted, i agree with him all the way, either way there is no reason for chuck to stick his nose in…

I dont know whats going on with Tito on that one but for what ever reason he didnt want to show up thats his right,he obviously didnt sign a contract in blood,chuck needs to shut his face coz if he gets to personal with Tito then Tito wont stand for it and like he says he is a vicious fighter when its personal.Anyway Chuck needs to shut his stupid face and consentrate on Rampage coz 1 its none of his god damn buisness whats between Tito and Dana is between them and Chuck already licks Danas ring enough as it is,2 I have a feelin hes taking Rampage way too lightly and hes gonna end up being embarresed in the ocatagon come May26th and hel give Tito more fuel and hunger to finaly beat him.
I have a very strong feeling Chuck the “Iceman” is gonna get “crushed” May26th and I am placing a very large bet on Rampage
£15,000 actualy and thats about $30,000 roughly.

Dude, Tito will never beat Chuck. I’m a hugh Tito fan and you got to know whensomeone is out classed. If that $30k is not going on the bet why dont you put it towards UFCMANIA.

“IF DANA IS SO HONEST AND TRUTHFULL WHY DOSNT HE LET US KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY HE HAS POCETED FROM THE LAST FEW UFC EVENTS COZ I GARUNTEE HIS PAY PACKET IS ASTRONOMICAL COMPARED TO THE BRAVE FIGHTERS WHO GIVE US THE FIGHTS WE WANT TO SEE WHILE DANA SITS CAGESIDE AND USES HIS CLAWS TO COUNT MONEY AND RUNS HIS MOUTH AT EVERY OPURTUNITY”

F…ing brilliant post “mcanena”, like so many of your others. Ground breaking stuff. You sound intelligent.

Dana’s the boss; he runs the show, if the fighters want more money, they can ask for it, quit, or move on to someone who will pay them more. That’s the way business works. Why should Dana White tell you how much money he “poceted”?

Personally, I like Dana White (at least, the image he’s presented for us on TV and in interviews). I couldn’t care less about how much money he makes, or how much money the fighters make. I watch the UFC to see great fights. If I see a good/competitive/entertaining fight I’m happy.

Those of you complaining about how little the fighters make – wake up, they do pretty darn good. Remember, sponsorships add up and make many of the UFC’s upper teired fighters quite wealthy men.

On a related note, go Chuck! I hope he destroys Jackson… and sends that loudmouth back to the WEC (or whatever organization he came from).

IF DANA IS SO HONEST AND TRUTHFULL WHY DOSNT HE LET US KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY HE HAS POCETED FROM THE LAST FEW UFC EVENTS COZ I GARUNTEE HIS PAY PACKET IS ASTRONOMICAL COMPARED TO THE BRAVE FIGHTERS WHO GIVE US THE FIGHTS WE WANT TO SEE WHILE DANA SITS CAGESIDE AND USES HIS CLAWS TO COUNT MONEY AND RUNS HIS MOUTH AT EVERY OPURTUNITY

 TURN THE CAP LOCK OFF. but seriously in a perfect world fighters would make all the money as would the consstruction workers who put shovels to dirt the teachers who actually teach the kids the cops workin the streets or countless others. I hate to say it but the Ufc is a business as long as it puts good fights together i cant complain.the fighters are taken care of i mean its not where it should be but its gettin there. and i for one dont want it to turn into boxing with don king or have shitty agents forcing players (fighters) to hold out(see it in football every year) or people like Vera. I’m not saying im a fan of dana but the money will come.

UFC is doin the BOMB-EST job. Enough said.

UFC is doin the BOMB-EST job. Enough said.

  from where it was to where it is AGREED

Man…Rampage is going to take Chuck…Foreal…Rampage can Stand and trade…I watched about 8 of Rampages’s fights….He can certainly take a punch..even the KO’s against Wandy and Shogun….He took alot of punishment before he went down…If the fight with Chuck get’s pushed past the limits of both these Gladiators, Page will come out as the Victor..EVery dog has it’s day..in this case Chuck is the dog..

from where it was to where it is AGREED

Yeah serious, they can’t do everything over night, people forget the progress already made. It’s not like they have been sitting here with no attempts to improve everything they can. Look where they came form, and in the time period they did evreything they have done so far since ufc1. They are doing pretty darn well.

Chuck will whoop Tito any day of the week no matter how much he runs around Big Bear. Chuck has the right to talk shit about the shit talker(Tito). As much as Tito runs his mouth about everything and everybody he needs to remember he is not the main attraction anymore.
Chuck is the man!

If this whole situation is build up for LIDDELL VS ORTIZ 3 then it’s pretty lame. Liddell’s just toying with Ortiz because he knows he whooped his ass twice and that Tito Ortiz can’t stand the fact that Liddell has bragging rights. Dana White/Ortiz are both equally at fault for this. Dana got greedy and tried to make some money off this side show and Tito wanted his cut. Now they both look like clowns

No, Tito is completely at fault. The only way Tito would sign the new contract after the falling out between him and Dana was to have a boxing match. It was supposed to be a private deal ,but Tito flapped his big mouth. Dana didn’t even want the fight and he shouldn’t pay Tito a God dam cent. Dana kept his end of the deal and Tito PUSSIED OUT! Tito looks like a big time clown ,but Dana doesn’t.

I dont know whats going on with Tito on that one but for what ever reason he didnt want to show up thats his right,he obviously didnt sign a contract in blood,chuck needs to shut his face coz if he gets to personal with Tito then Tito wont stand for it and like he says he is a vicious fighter when its personal.Anyway Chuck needs to shut his stupid face and consentrate on Rampage coz 1 its none of his god damn buisness whats between Tito and Dana is between them and Chuck already licks Danas ring enough as it is,2 I have a feelin hes taking Rampage way too lightly and hes gonna end up being embarresed in the ocatagon come May26th and hel give Tito more fuel and hunger to finaly beat him.
I have a very strong feeling Chuck the “Iceman” is gonna get “crushed” May26th and I am placing a very large bet on Rampage
£15,000 actualy and thats about $30,000 roughly.

Not only did he sign a contract, but he made the fight mandatory in the contract. Now betting $ 30,000 against a guy who knocked his last 7 opponents out is foolish to say the least. You might want to reconsider that. I’d hate to see you lose that much money.

Wow! Did no-one bother to hear Tito’s side of the story? Yes, Tito had it in his contract that he would box Dana IN PRIVATE! Then Tito came up with the brilliant idea that they would put it on TV or the internet to make a profit off of it. Dana thought it was a good idea and so did Tito. When the time came to fight Tito was waiting to sign what is called a “BOUT AGREEMENT” which is signed before every MMA or Boxing fight. This allows for the fighter to make his paycheck for the fight and to make some of the profits from the gate, ppv buys etc…But in this case it was the profits for the airing of the show on Spike (note: Tito’s idea in the first place!) So, by signing this Tito would make some of the profit both off the fight itself and by sponsoring Punishment Athletics everywhere on the show and in turn Dana/Zuffa would make most of the profit. Dana did not create a bout agreement. (Probably because he was scared to fight Tito) So, Tito phoned ahead 3 DAYS IN ADVANCE to tell Dana that he would not show up without a Bout Agreement. Dana didn’t make one and WHAT DO YA KNOW Tito didn’t show up.

But Dana wanted to make Tito look like and ass and did the weigh-ins even after he knew 3 days before that Tito would not show up. The bad blood airing was an hour worth of TITO bashing and all of you gobbled it right up.

Let’s say before you went to work everyday in your work contract it said that to get paid you had to sign a paper before working everyday to say that on this day you will work x amount of hours for x amount of money, you would sign it! Then lets say you didn’t sign it and worked x amount of hours. Then at the end of the day your boss says sorry I can’t pay you because you didn’t sign this paper before you started to work! That little paper is like a bout agreement by Tito not signing it he would have made nothing and Dana would have made everything! I’m sorry but working for nothing is BULLSHIT! No-one here would do it! (Unless you want to be a slave!)

Just remember that Liddell is Dana’s bitch and Tito isn’t! Tito is the only one who stands up to Dana because no-one else has the BALLS to. Honestly I am sick and tired of Liddell running his mouth; he has the charisma of a freaking fly! If I wanted to see a boring fight that leads to a KO then I will just go watch boxing! That’s what Liddell should be a freaking BOXER! Liddell talks about Tito all the time because Tito will always be in his head win or lose!

Just like you said, the fight was supposed to be “PRIVATE”. NO MONEY INVOLVED! TITO WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO GET ANY MONEY! THE CONTRACT NEVER SAID TITO WOULD GET 1 RED CENT. Tito wanted the fight and Dana honored his end of the contract. Tito made it public hoping to cash in , but Tito doesn’t make his own rules like he ownes the UFC just because he is a greedy bitch. Either Chuck and everyone else has no BALLS, or maybe they’re just happy with the way Dana treats them and Tito is just a whiney little BITCH! Ya that what I thought.

“IF DANA IS SO HONEST AND TRUTHFULL WHY DOSNT HE LET US KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY HE HAS POCETED FROM THE LAST FEW UFC EVENTS COZ I GARUNTEE HIS PAY PACKET IS ASTRONOMICAL COMPARED TO THE BRAVE FIGHTERS WHO GIVE US THE FIGHTS WE WANT TO SEE WHILE DANA SITS CAGESIDE AND USES HIS CLAWS TO COUNT MONEY AND RUNS HIS MOUTH AT EVERY OPURTUNITY”

F…ing brilliant post “mcanena”, like so many of your others. Ground breaking stuff. You sound intelligent.

Dana’s the boss; he runs the show, if the fighters want more money, they can ask for it, quit, or move on to someone who will pay them more. That’s the way business works. Why should Dana White tell you how much money he “poceted”?

Personally, I like Dana White (at least, the image he’s presented for us on TV and in interviews). I couldn’t care less about how much money he makes, or how much money the fighters make. I watch the UFC to see great fights. If I see a good/competitive/entertaining fight I’m happy.

Those of you complaining about how little the fighters make – wake up, they do pretty darn good. Remember, sponsorships add up and make many of the UFC’s upper teired fighters quite wealthy men.

On a related note, go Chuck! I hope he destroys Jackson… and sends that loudmouth back to the WEC (or whatever organization he came from).

Well said Wadz.

Dan Henderson v- Tito would be GREAT..
For Silva – Ortiz2, Im taking Wanderlei…

Spida… holy shit dude! Thats like a novel.

Im not saying Tito is washed up, Im saying his game is too common now. Back when he first walked into the UFC, he DOMINATED due to his ground and pound… you can see now that he is back, things arent as easy as they were, because his game is too common. Having no nitch, really does him in. He was one of the first gnp wrestlers, and he was good at it, back when jujitsu fighters were the only ones that went to the ground.

Tito cant hang with Chuck…
He wont be able to hang with Henderson or Wandi…
He is a good fighter, but not in the top teir of fighters anymore.

Why can’t he hang with Wandi? He already beat him before. He might be a jackass ,but in the last few years he only lost to Randy and Chuck. Tito will beat Evans and when Chuck moves up he will be LHW champ.

I agree with Liddell all the way.Tito Ortiz is nothing but a winer.He’s not #1 anymore so he finds other ways to have all the attention on him.I hope Evans kicks his ass.

I have actualy said tito will never beat chuck if you read any of my previous stuff you will notice I have said many times chuck is my faveourite fighter so there.
UFCMANIA deletes my comments over the slightest thing, I put one bad word and its deleted.

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Man…Rampage is going to take Chuck…Foreal…Rampage can Stand and trade…I watched about 8 of Rampages’s fights….He can certainly take a punch..even the KO’s against Wandy and Shogun….He took alot of punishment before he went down…If the fight with Chuck get’s pushed past the limits of both these Gladiators, Page will come out as the Victor..EVery dog has it’s day..in this case Chuck is the dog..

Totally agree with you there dude.

Wanderlei Silva is a whole differnt fighter now. He is bigger, stronger, and has some of the best standup in the game. If Wanderlei trains hard for the cage, he could without a doubt rip through almost all of the UFC LHWs outside of Chuck, maybe Rashad, maybe Tito. Id love to see Silva – Ortiz2. Wanderlei is gonna be on a mission… to regain a bit of respect after Henderson dropped him.

Wanderlei is without a doubt top 2-3 LHW fighter, and top 5 fighter in the WORLD!

Watch how fast the Ortiz bashing turns into Tito loving when he beats Rashad. There’s no reason you can’t like both Liddell and Ortiz there both future Hall of Famers. The reason people hate Ortiz is because of this boxing mess and the whole bullshit with Ken Shamrock. On top of that he’s been put up against most of the fan favourites (Liddell, Forrest griffen, now Rashad Evans) If Chuck wasn’t in the UFC Ortiz would be the Champion right now. How can you guys say he hasn’t been impressive either? He destroyed Ken “washed up” Shamrock twice and Beat a tough guy in Forrest, and he lasted 3 rounds with Chuck. Tito Ortiz puts on a show guys it’s time to learn to enjoy it. Forget the boxing fiasco with Dana “i’ll make myself look like the good guy” White. Did anyone care to see it anyways??

Dude, the Tito bashing isn’t gonna stop. He’s gonna lose to Evans. He should never have gotten the decision over Forest. He should learn to keep quiet, and to let his actions do the talking.

Im not bashing Tito….
Tito is a good fighter… not GREAT.

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/wanderlei+silva/video/xublp_wanderlei-silva-fights-for-pride
Wanderlei Highlight…
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/silva+jackson/video/xaccr_wanderlei-silva-vs-quinton-jackson
Rampage getting eaten by Wandi…

Watch how fast the Ortiz bashing turns into Tito loving when he beats Rashad. There’s no reason you can’t like both Liddell and Ortiz there both future Hall of Famers. The reason people hate Ortiz is because of this boxing mess and the whole bullshit with Ken Shamrock. On top of that he’s been put up against most of the fan favourites (Liddell, Forrest griffen, now Rashad Evans) If Chuck wasn’t in the UFC Ortiz would be the Champion right now. How can you guys say he hasn’t been impressive either? He destroyed Ken “washed up” Shamrock twice and Beat a tough guy in Forrest, and he lasted 3 rounds with Chuck. Tito Ortiz puts on a show guys it’s time to learn to enjoy it. Forget the boxing fiasco with Dana “i’ll make myself look like the good guy” White. Did anyone care to see it anyways??

I like Ortiz and Liddell

but Chuck shouldnt be conserned with whats going on between Tito and Dana it is not none of his buisness.

I am fasinated to know why my responses to bloodymess and morethanufc was deleted there was no swearing in it or anything and I thought it was totaly reasonable considering what they said on me,I think there is a bit of favoritism going on here if some one quotes my comments and I have a response why delete it to make out them to of had the last word.

Chuck has the right to say what he wants, to who he wants, when he wants, Remember he is the Champion, owns the belt, and probably wont lose again. You’ve earnt your right to mouth of Chuck, Tito lost his right, over and over again!

Chuck has the right to say what he wants, to who he wants, when he wants, Remember he is the Champion, owns the belt, and probably wont lose again. You’ve earnt your right to mouth of Chuck, Tito lost his right, over and over again!

Yeah but what happened to him being so “ice” then,tell me why would he even be conserned with what is going on between Tito and Dana when he is so close to a fight with Rampage,I think it is disrspectfull myself and I know Rampage is only thinking of one thing right now and that is smashing Chuck!
You say he probably wont lose again so what you think chuck is like a superman or somthing,
let me tell you there is not a man on the planet who cant be beaten everyones chin is made of flesh and bone and he is by no means unbeatable,
I think Rampage is gonna take this one.

damn, he called him a pussy, i think this is just chuck sticking up for his boy dana white, things changed with that boxing match when it was gonna be aired on tv and money started being made off of it and tito wasn’t getting any of that, i believe it was mostly a money issue, and maybe a little bit of tito not wanting to get embarrassed by not being able to dominate, who knows…

 I agree Spida

Hey Dana, don’t you think your being a little too buddy buddy with Liddell and Hughes. You get into the business being Tito’s manager and now you act like you know more about MMA than anyone. You have a major conflict of interest going on in your business dealings. Your going to destroy the Ufc by playing favorites. Don’t forget where you came from White. Your little t.v special was a joke. Nobody cares about you,they care about the fighters. So mark my words, you keep shooting your mouth off and playing favorites,eventually the fighters will reject you.

Wow! Did no-one bother to hear Tito’s side of the story? Yes, Tito had it in his contract that he would box Dana IN PRIVATE! Then Tito came up with the brilliant idea that they would put it on TV or the internet to make a profit off of it. Dana thought it was a good idea and so did Tito. When the time came to fight Tito was waiting to sign what is called a “BOUT AGREEMENT” which is signed before every MMA or Boxing fight. This allows for the fighter to make his paycheck for the fight and to make some of the profits from the gate, ppv buys etc…But in this case it was the profits for the airing of the show on Spike (note: Tito’s idea in the first place!) So, by signing this Tito would make some of the profit both off the fight itself and by sponsoring Punishment Athletics everywhere on the show and in turn Dana/Zuffa would make most of the profit. Dana did not create a bout agreement. (Probably because he was scared to fight Tito) So, Tito phoned ahead 3 DAYS IN ADVANCE to tell Dana that he would not show up without a Bout Agreement. Dana didn’t make one and WHAT DO YA KNOW Tito didn’t show up.

But Dana wanted to make Tito look like and ass and did the weigh-ins even after he knew 3 days before that Tito would not show up. The bad blood airing was an hour worth of TITO bashing and all of you gobbled it right up.

Let’s say before you went to work everyday in your work contract it said that to get paid you had to sign a paper before working everyday to say that on this day you will work x amount of hours for x amount of money, you would sign it! Then lets say you didn’t sign it and worked x amount of hours. Then at the end of the day your boss says sorry I can’t pay you because you didn’t sign this paper before you started to work! That little paper is like a bout agreement by Tito not signing it he would have made nothing and Dana would have made everything! I’m sorry but working for nothing is BULLSHIT! No-one here would do it! (Unless you want to be a slave!)

Just remember that Liddell is Dana’s bitch and Tito isn’t! Tito is the only one who stands up to Dana because no-one else has the BALLS to. Honestly I am sick and tired of Liddell running his mouth; he has the charisma of a freaking fly! If I wanted to see a boring fight that leads to a KO then I will just go watch boxing! That’s what Liddell should be a freaking BOXER! Liddell talks about Tito all the time because Tito will always be in his head win or lose!

Just like you said, the fight was supposed to be “PRIVATE”. NO MONEY INVOLVED! TITO WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO GET ANY MONEY! THE CONTRACT NEVER SAID TITO WOULD GET 1 RED CENT. Tito wanted the fight and Dana honored his end of the contract. Tito made it public hoping to cash in , but Tito doesn’t make his own rules like he ownes the UFC just because he is a greedy bitch. Either Chuck and everyone else has no BALLS, or maybe they’re just happy with the way Dana treats them and Tito is just a whiney little BITCH! Ya that what I thought.

why standup to yur boss when your driving 120,000$ cars and living like a king , gord. let white control your place of employment then smoke your cuban’s and cash your cheques,, that was ortiz fatal mistake.