NICE! Much better matchup. Coming out party for Evans—-he will expose the Myth of Tito Ortiz. Chicken legs is so overrated.

SirMixaLob,
I haven’t been very impressed with tito’s last few fights either but he will expose Rashad as the overrated TUF’er that he is… He had a semi-impressive win over Jason Lambert but I was definitely not impressed with his win over Salmon (besides the kick). Tito ortiz is a very impressive fighter but chuck just had his number…. Trust me, tito is taking this one

im with patrick, i dont think rashad has enough for tito…tito wont stop him though, im sure it will be a three round unanimous decision

You guys are stuck in the past. You love Tito from all the stuff he’s done before and for how he was on TUF show. Granted he earned respect from me as a person for the side of him I seen on the show. But if you really think Rashad is overated, then you just don’t know fighting. Tito IMO lost to Forrest. So what he beat Shamrock twice! The Chuck fight showed me how scared to get hit Tito was. He looked like Hughes fighting St. Pierre. He’s a wrestle, GNP, but he never really committed to any kind of take down. So his last four fights haven’t shown me that Rashad is way out of his leauge.

   Rashad is an explosive wrestle and question his MMA all you want, his wrestling is top notch. So much so that he’ll out wrestle Tito. And none of you can truthfully say that Tito has dangerous hands, so how does he beat Rashad is the question? He doesn’t. Forrest was banging him on his feet, but Tito got take downs and hit some elbows. Forrest isn’t a mat guy. But Tito won’t be throwing Rashad around the cage and that’s a fact!! This is a bad match up for Tito. Jardine would have been better for him to get back on the winning streak. But their probably gonna feed Jardine to Liddell for his last match before Rampage.

I agree with Getrawbc. I wanted to say exactly that but was too lazy hahaha. Tito is still living off of the Shamrock fights. Griffin won that fight and he hasnt done boo even before that or since. Hes all talk. Ship him off to TNA. Dana only keeps him around b/c he somehow sells tickets.

I think Rashad’s wrestling background combined with his knockout power will take Tito. I think Tito is way over-rated. To me he has the same problem as Babalu, no standup game.

How is Tito overrated? If anything he isn’t really rated at all. His only losses came from the best; Liddell, Couture, Frank Shamrock, and Mezger but beat him afterwards. I hope Tito wins this one or he’s basically done for.

I hope rashad uses tito as a stepping stone, however he may be exposed as overated if he gets pounded out.I’d have a bit more doubt about rashad if he wasen’t in jackson’s camp.

I totally agree with Kyle. I am personally a 100% Tito fan and either you love him or you hate him. Granted, I am not taking anything away from Evans b/c he is a damn good fighter, but I strongly believe Tito will take this one. I am not just saying this because he is one of my favs, but he will take this one.

Kyle wake up tito is done for. Anybody that thinks tito is the bomb should watch that forrest Griffen fight. Kyle you think he’s only lost to the best but it was clear he lost the last two rounds to forrest “snifflin” Griffin

I see it being just like the Salmon fight, except Tito isn’t going to get kicked in the head. Tito will get all the takedowns. Size wise Tito is going to be a lot bigger than Rashad (6’2 vs. 5’11). Rashad only looked big because Salmon is short for a 205 guy and Tito’s endurance is going to be much better. I’ll still root for Rashad since I can’t stand Tito.

Tito doesn’t want to be a fighter. He wants to be rich, sell his T-shirts and stick his wienie into his girlfriend’s used-up canyon of a vagina. (Motto: To boldly go where several thousand have gone before.) I wasn’t a big fan of Rashad’s before (too much like Blanket Koscheck for my taste) but he is getting a lot better at finishing fights. I’m looking forward to hearing Tito’s post-fight excuse after Rashad whips his ass.

I dont think Tito is overrated, but Rashad is better. Every fight you watch of Rashad’s he has gotten a considerable amount better in every fight. He went from a wrestler on TUF, to a boxer in the TUF finale, back to a submisson ground N pound vs Hoger, then almost broke Lamberts jaw after a display of sick wrestling skills (And Lambert killed Bablu and Babalu couldnt get Lambert down and Rashad made it look easy),Then the pure standup with Salmon. Im not saying Tito sucks i think hes a Top 5 fighter, but Rashad hasnt even peaked yet. I think this is his coming out fight. He’ll out wrestle, out strike, and just be athletically over powering for tito. Id have Rashad in 2nd rd via ground and pound strikes after a big right thatll knock tito on his ass. I could be wrong cuz Tito is a great fighter, but I think Rashad will keep getting better like he has previously and he’ll launch himself into top 3 in the division.

Did I ever say he was “DA BOMB”? I don’t think so. Anyway he beat Forrest Griffin and since it was striker versus wrestler it wasn’t that great. In some cases it is but not that one. I was just acknowledging factual statements. Just because you despise Tito and want to make love with Rashad doesn’t mean you have to take it out on me.

I was looking forward to seeing Jardine take the buzzsaw to Tito’s girly legs.

A loss to Rashad will put Tito in the T-shirt business full-time.

Rashad Evans: The Smart Sleeper

WHen Rashad Evans debuted in the TUF 2, alot of people were not impressed with his fights because they thought he was not putting in enough heart or effort. I think Rashad is quite the clever fighter, only fhowing his opponents and spectators enough to win each fight. I believe we have not even seen all of Rashads skills, talents or potential. It’s about time Rashad got someone who people are familiar with!

Even though Tito has his fans and haters, I am quite confident that Rashad will beat him.

Tito has always made a point of claiming that Ken Shamrock was a dated fighter, but Tito lives in his own little bubble. Yes he has Big Bear training camp, and has helped Mark Hammill and Kendal Grove shine, I will not take that away from him.. But unless Tito puts his ego and pride aside and enlists the help of a new trainer or trainers, instead of always training HIMSELF, he will lose to Rashad for sure.

I was at the MGM for the last Tito and Chuck fight. I was really dissapointed with Tito, especially since he had fought Chuck before and knew what he was up against, yet he brought no new skills or game to that fight. To me he seemed hesitant and very cautious of Chuck.

Tito has said he we be in the UFC for a very long time and that he is quote" not going anywhere", I hope for his sake he enlists some new trainers and programs, because if he loses this fight to Rashad, his career will not look so bright anymore.

Alot of people have stated that Keith Jardine just got lucky with his win over Forrest Griffin. I believe Jardine won because he ditched his old camp and joined the Jackson camp.
He showed alot of people that by switching camps and learning new skills, a fighter can take down a great skilled individual such as Forrest.

BTW, why did Forest run like crazy, crying as he bolted to the locker room after the Jardine fight? I think Forrest should still hold his head high, people do not ralize that on any given day a great fighter can win or lose.

SunnY

It really seems like you guys all have stock in the TUF guys, THEY ARE ALL OVERRATED AND PROTECTED. Think about it, the show was created to create a new fan base for those that had no clue what UFC or MMA even were. Would it be a good business decision to create a fan base for the TUF guys and then have them destroyed by real competition in there first few fights in the UFC, no so you throw them scrubs or each other for years so they can be undefeated. 90 – 95% of the guys who have undefeated records are from TUF (Rashad, Diego, Bisping, The Hammer), do you really think all these guys are that good. If so, why did they even need to go on the show. Diego (who is way over rated)is the only one who has had any sort of real competition meanng Karo. I guess you could say Forrest too, but he lost and he is one loss away from being gone.

  Anyway….How can people think Tito is over rated and these TUF guys are not, tito may have gotten beat most recently by Liddell but who has even lasted 3 rounds with him in the past 3 – 4 years.

thats all for now, this is my first post and I HAD TO VENT, been a reader for a long time now, just got to say awesome work UFCMania and great thoughts/opinions all you postee’s. Keep it going

Forrest has always been great at taking a punch, as he showed in two fights against Bonner and one against Tito. No one had ever pounded his lights out like Jardine did (at least not that I’m aware of) and he didn’t react well. That’s this amateur psychologist’s take.

umm sunny, jardine has been with jacksons camp for years

I haven’t been very impressed with tito’s last few fights, I think Tito is way over-rated. if Tito doesn’t wins this one or he’s basically done for. Dana only keeps him around because Tito somehow sells tickets.

Tito sells tickets by yapping his mouth….it was nice to see him actually humble in the post fight after his beating by the iceman

This sucks. I wanted to see Jardine v. Ortiz. Beating Sean “Shinbone” Salmon earned him a shot at Ortiz? I REALLY like Rashad, as a man and a fighter, but um, he better get better real fast.
How will it go? Rashad will scare Tito but Rashad will fall back to his wrestling ways to avoid the elbows. Tito will get scared and will try to grapple as to avoid a highlight reel KO. Result?
I dont know, I’ll be sleeping by that point. One of em via blanket.

I think both these guys are over-rated, either way I feel this fight won’t go to a decision.

mayberry how can you say that rashad evasn has been protected all of his wins were against not top talent but they were way better matchups then the former champs franklin and matt h. I think this is a great fight for both of them tito has a very toughfight ahead of him and so does evans. But i think endurens will win this fight and that means tito by split desion. And i dont think tito lost that fight to Cry baby forrest i think he won by split desion he won the first round lost the second and won the thrisd in my book that is a split desion. and i also hated titos game plan aginst chuck. you got to be agressive with that guy not trying to block everything he throws you.

Tito did not lose that Forrest fight!!!!! Lets get that out there because im sick of people saying it… Yes, it was a close fight but Tito took it in the end… Everybody who is saying tito is overrated is retarded… After this fight, I’ll be saying I told you so

so which is it? jardine or “sugar”?

ya jimmy be aggresive like Babalu was against chuck…

Im with Patrick and MMADude I think Tito should take this fight. With reguards to him not fighting Jardine; to me it doesnt matter both these guys deserve a shot at Tito so either way im excited. Ever though im rooting for Tito I think this should be a good match better that any Forrest rematch, especially if Tito wins it in the first round.

Spida…sugar…its played out, lets try something else…i would say sausage tits, but sam hoger has that one as well..ill try to think of something

i saw a king of the cage fight with Rashad vs hector ramirez, and right in the middle of it Rashad started salsa dancing, maybe we can incorperate that in there

Rashad is going to fuck tito up!

Keith Jardine is very underated and i was looking forward to this fight. If it wasnt for the very questionable decision loss to stephan “the roid monkey” bonnar he would be undefeated in the UFC and people would have a lot more respect for him. As for Tito Vs. Evans, should be a nice fight, i’m not too sure who to pick, i just hope someone gets K’dTFO!

I think either one of those matchup would be great. The UFC needs to start putting well known and well respected fighters against each other more often. I am kind of tired of this “feeding” people victories bullshit.
Honestly, I don’t really know who to go for in this fight. I like this matchup because you can make valid arguments for either fighter. Only one thing is for sure. Win or lose, Tito will have the bigger paycheck.

UFCmania when are you going to update the rankings already?

Man I gotta go for Rashad he’s tough and up and coming versus Tito who is without a doubt on his way out. Man I hate Tito.

I don’t think Tito could handle Rashad, the man is just too explosive and fast. I think Rashad would dominate, and I don’t see how you could say Diego has been protected. he’s earned his shot.

i think this wil be a great fight both of these guys have improved their stand up and are both great wrestlers.If Rashad can win it would put him in place for a title shot

I dont know Rashad’s fight history but, Tito has fought the best in the world including Chuck, Wanderlei and Randy. Rashad since beig in the ufc has only fought a couple of B class fighters, so i think it comes down to the level of competition. Tito wins..

to jason… i am a big tito fan but all the best fighters he fought he lost to except wanderlie but wand was 22 at the tims.chuck beat him twice randy spanked him literly.he beat some okay people but most often chocked when it mattered.

yeah mike, but tito put up a pretty good fight to randy, and randy couldnt finish him, and randy can finish a lot of dudes, thats was 3 or 4 years ago, but i dont think tito has gone down hill, especially his strength and athletism…so im pretty sure unless Rashad improves to where his hands are like chucks, tito will take this fight..Rashad is quicker and pretty athletic himself, and has decently heavy hands, so the only way he can win this fight is if somehow he catches tito in a scramble, otherwise it will be a wrestling match with tito winning the decision

Well both j.b. and mike have valid points. Even in losing you come away with invaluable experience. Times in a person’s career is just as important though. Theres no argueing Rashads on his way up and this is his toughest test to date. Tito has always choked and only has a name because he picked on a retired champion who was a comic book hero when he was still playing jump-rope in school. I for one sincerely hope Tito falls to the same fate as Salmon.

Tito is not the fighter he always was…
But Tito can play a multi faceted game… He fought a good fight with Forrest (and yes, I think Forrest won that bout..)
The thing is, I think that Tito can do everything Rashad can do, and better. I dont think Rashad is much stronger then Tito, I dont think that Rashad can inflict as much pushishment as Tito.. Rashad hasnt beaten any real talent outside of Bonnar (where Rashad just went into wrestling mode..) He cant fall back on just continuing to take down Tito, because Tito WILL catch him.

hopefully tito wins this one because i really don’t like rashad

Forrest did not win that fight, Tito won it with his last takedown, the fight was close but not controversal outcome at all. Tito got the W on his record and Forrest got the L, end of Story, thats life.
Rashad has fought nobody, (Bonnar, Lambert, Salmon, Hoger, Imes), Who??? Bonnar is not Talent – he is the loser of TUF1 show, a Juice head with heart, a good chin which should not be confused with Talent.
I dont want to say too much about Rashad because he is a good guy and I dont want to talk shit just because he is going to lose his next fight, I just strongly believe that him and all the TUF guys are over rated.
so here it is, Tito by unanswered elbows in R2

I believe Tito did win over Forrest. The problem is the fact that he left it open to debate like this with Forrest. He didn’t even dominate the fight much less knock him out like ole ‘Dean of Mean’ did. That really should say enough of his talent but to watch him go fetal everytime he and Chuck exchanged a couple of blows further cements that he is nomatter what, a B fighter at best. So I would love to see somebody thats up and coming knock out Tito.

“I really dont like Evans”

I can understand when ppl say this about Tito, Diego, Kos, Diaz, Sylvia, Liddell, Rampage, even Royce Gracie, but Rashad Evans? He’s humble, he knows his place in the division ( I wanna take my time, aint no chump up on top ), has improved his game with every fight, takes time with the fans, and doesnt go out and make asinine statements every time a mike is put in front of him ( Crisping ).
Crisping = he’s cooking under the glare of the bright lights.

What, next, “I really dont like Ross Pointon”?

Rashad is cool hes not boaring and not scared to try new things. Tito is a “star” and that fucks his game up, his last four fights were terrible, im not impressd with tito, and Tito vs Jardine would be a good fight, Jardine is underrated I think Jardine would tkae it. How about Tito vs Lyoto

Tito v. Machida has to happen. If they both win their next bouts, it’s a logical progression.

i hear people talk all the time about hughes being a boring fighter and the same for sean sherk, but rashad evans tops it off. that guy will take someone down and just hold them he did good against jason lambert who isn’t up to the level of ortiz or liddell, and he barely stopped salmon (he’s lucky salmon gassed bc that guy was kicking his ass). i don’t think rashad is prepared for a guy like tito and tito is improving in every fight. look at the first fight with shamrock he took him out 4th round, second time he got a good take down and an early stoppage, third time he picked shamrock up like a rag doll and had his way with him. big deal he didn’t do a whole lot against chuck, who has atleast tito didn’t get stopped in the first round like most do, and he recovered from a couple barrages of punches. bottom line tito is not goin to let rashad just hold him down and im goin to love watchin this undefeated overrated fighter get his ass handed to him.

unkNown fan,
I agree wrestlers for the casual fan are boring, as a fellow MMA addict pointed out lately ( props, cant remember who ). But you Tito fluffers just kill me. What fights are you watching?
Evans has improved every fight we’ve seen him in, while Tito is tito is tito. Tito has improved? Hmm, why hasnt he been in against a fellow grappler lately? A washed up K Shamrock who decided he was a striker at age 38 hardly counts. Why no BJJ opponents? Wandy was the last one in what 99-00? And calling Wandy a BJJ guy is being generous.
Tito gets to pick and choose who he wants via his contract. He doesnt have outright control, but gets a yea or nay vote. Did you know that last title fight was written into his contract? Mmhmm.
My educated guess is with the $$$ that comes every time Tito fights, Dana is protecting the payday. Did anyone see anything new out of Tito in Liddell II? Ok, he made it to the 3rd before getting KTFO, anything else?

I wanna see Lil Nog and Tito. Think your boy can hang in that one?

Belfort is a bjj blak belt…he beat him split, 2 years ago??..not saying that means anything

hopefully they fire ross pointon because i really don’t like him

Tito burned out too early in his career, he peaked early, and now he is done, plain and simple.

i dont get how its palin and simple….if he loses to rashad, the its plain and simple..his only loss in the last 3 years is to Chuck….i dont even like tito, but i cant justify saying hes done…no one can

He is not done, just protected. This fight, if it happens, will be Tito’s first against a wrestler/subfighter since 99 against Metzger, except for Couture in 03( loss ). He got his contractually bound title fight, now he needs to prove he has what it takes to compete in the new era.
No?
Title shot — 1.5 yrs off, he gets to fight a guy who you know is gonna keep it up and has virtually no ground game, Forrest. Then he beats a washed up KS twice. If that’s all it takes, Diego and Vera should be pissed.

great match up looking forward to it. I’m a big Evans fan he should be able to hang with Tito if not win.

Don’t get me wrong, I like Tito (for the sake of him making a good show anyway) but I honestly think he’s all screwed up over Jenna, his mind is on pussy, not fighting, and I think thats why Chuck almost KO’ed him in round 1 @ UFC 66

im going w/Chadx on this one…i like tito but i think he’s got a weekness named jenna…

Why would you like a fighter who has a 4-8 losing record anyway? They should fire him.

THe reason why Rashad had a tough time with Salmon is because they are both top tier wrestlers. Tito was considered a good wrestler back in 99’ and 2000. But now even Matt Hughes can’t compete with the Division 1 wrestlers that are entering MMA. Sean Salmon, Rashad Evans, and especially Josh Koshcheck are rediculously good. Koscheck and Evans have made it a point to expand their game without forgetting their wrestling. They remind me of St. Pierre a year or two ago. Tito is a mediocre striker and a good Wrestler. Rashad is a good striker (and I think he’ll be even better at UFC 71) and a great wrestler. Not to mention he’s faster and maybe even more athletically gifted. He might even be on par with ortiz in conditioning. This isn’t a gimme match for Ortiz. He could get back to back losses on this one. I welcome a changing of the guard becauses it means that the sport is growing. This is how it should be the new generation should be able to beat the old.

I agree with Getrawbc. I wanted to say exactly that but was too lazy hahaha. Tito is still living off of the Shamrock fights. Griffin won that fight and he hasnt done boo even before that or since. Hes all talk. Ship him off to TNA. Dana only keeps him around b/c he somehow sells tickets.

While I agree completely that Tito has not had a quality win for some time, I thought that he fought Chuck as well as anybody in the past 2 years has. Regarding the Forrest fight I felt that Tito won that fight, and I give Forrest the respect of being one of the top 7 or 8 guys at 205. With that being said, I don’t feel that Tito’s recent fight resume is flawed. However, I do think that Rashad Evans is a great fighter, and this will be a true litmus test for both fighters. Is Rashad really a top notch fighter? Will we see very soon. By the way, if Tito loses this fight, one has to wonder where he has to go? Perhaps drop down to 185 and try to fight in what I feel is one of the weaker division?

Rashad Evans to me is next in line to face Chuck Liddell….I think Rashad is the only fighter next to Rampage that could possibily beat Chuck….I think Ortiz only chance in this fight will be to try and take Evans down….and keep him there….If Tito is stupid enough to try and stand with Rashad, Ortiz will go to sleep..

People are totally underestimating Evans…People had better start listening to Randy Couture…He stated that “Evans would be the future of the UFC” Is wrestling is on another level and now that this guy has learned the art of “Ground and Pound” You better watch out..

Ortiz has proven over the years that he has one major flaw…and that flaw is his weak chin….Keep in mind Evans has a hell of a punch at LTHW and Ortiz simply can’t take it..

Evans by TKO in the second round…in devastating fashion.

haha Ortizs chin is not that weak..hes been KOed by who? Oh just Chuck, and he wasnt knocked out cold…And Chuck has way more punching power than Rashad…There is no way Rashad is putting Tito to sleep…if anything he will squeek out a decision, but I doubt it…Rashad has a long way to go if he is the future..especially if UFC did buy Pride

MMA Dude i do agree with you some what…But you can’t say Liddell has more power than Evans…Evans dropped Imes not once but twice…..Evans puches much faster and his punches have more snap than Liddell…Liddell hurts people because he’s punches surprises people…Chuck has a really unusual style and Rashad is more of a street fighter….I see Tito getting hurt really bad in this fight…

Evans is fighting for pride, and Tito has lost the edge….When your the best fighter in your camp.. you can never improve…Evans isn’t the best fighter in his camp, thus giving him room to improve….Keep in mind the fight between Hughes and Gracie…Matt trained with everyone…Gracie only trained with people he could beat and you saw the result…

Tito is a cocky guy and he will try to beat Evans in convicing fashion and that will lead to his demise…Evans will catch him with that right hand or that Airwolf Style Hook kick and down goes Tito..LOL

I meant to say Round kick…lol

This fight will be one of the best in UFC History…Ortiz is fighting for his legacy and Evans is hungry..Knowing Tito…he will say something to be little Evans and make him mad….We have yet to see what Rashad can really do…I think the guy only does what he has to do to win fights and this fight he will lay it all on the line….I see this man totally destroying Ortiz in this fight. It will be like a Heat seeking missile hitting a fighter plane.

SirMixaLob,
I haven’t been very impressed with tito’s last few fights either but he will expose Rashad as the overrated TUF’er that he is… He had a semi-impressive win over Jason Lambert but I was definitely not impressed with his win over Salmon (besides the kick). Tito ortiz is a very impressive fighter but chuck just had his number…. Trust me, tito is taking this one

Would you bet all your money on it…Evans is gonna kill that guy…I think honestly that this will be Ortiz’s last fight….If he makes one mistake and get caught with that kick it’s all over. There still picking pieces of Sean Salmon’s brain up off the mat….That guy has step up to the challenge every time he’s be asked to….I don’t see any reason why he want continue to do so in this fight…You guys must have not heard what Randy said about this man….Couture said this guy was the best wrestler he’s ever face…Period.

haha…so youre saying that Rashad is better than Chuck, but he isnt the best in his own camp…whos better in the jackson camp?? Tito trains with Rampage, Josh Barnett, and Matt Hamill whos a better wrestler than Rashad, youre not making sense dude….Rashad has never fought Randy, so how could he be the best wreslter hes ever face??

WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

ROD1975………Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about!!!!

I am with you 100% ROD, because you make sense and dont live in a fantasy land like some bloggers do here.

Look forward to hearing more of your comments.

Rashad will crush Tito, and I want to see Rashad vs Chuck down the road, Rashad has a better chance than Rampage does.

Sincerely,

SunnY

haha…so youre saying that Rashad is better than Chuck, but he isnt the best in his own camp…whos better in the jackson camp?? Tito trains with Rampage, Josh Barnett, and Matt Hamill whos a better wrestler than Rashad, youre not making sense dude….Rashad has never fought Randy, so how could he be the best wreslter hes ever face??

If you were watching the fight between Evans and Salmon…you will here Couture comment on Evans…He was training with Evans and he stated that this man’s wresting was on another level…

He said he was hands down the best wrestler he’s ever faced. And yes i’m saying Evans can beat Liddell…Remember Rampage beat chuch and Rampage isn’t comfortable at all on his back…

I’ve seen alot of little pussy asian cats whip up on ramp…That man was only brought into the UFC so chuck can get his revenge…Evans would totally destroy Rampage Jackson…

If you can’t see the explosivesness and amazing skills of Evans then either your blind or just a hater…No way in hell is Ortiz gonna win this fight.

haha…so youre saying that Rashad is better than Chuck, but he isnt the best in his own camp…whos better in the jackson camp?? Tito trains with Rampage, Josh Barnett, and Matt Hamill whos a better wrestler than Rashad, youre not making sense dude….Rashad has never fought Randy, so how could he be the best wreslter hes ever face??

What i’m saying is this…He need to polish off his ground and pound skills…and he’s no way the best at that in his camp…He’s been learning from Jardine, Sanchez and other better ground and pound fighter…Sorry if i didn’t explain myself better..

If you were watching the fight between Evans and Salmon…you will here Couture comment on Evans…He was training with Evans and he stated that this man’s wresting was on another level…

I’ve seen alot of little pussy asian cats whip up on ramp…That man was only brought into the UFC so chuck can get his revenge…Evans would totally destroy Rampage Jackson…

Salmon was beating Rashad in the first round with his wrestling skills, so Rashad wasnt even the best wrestler in the octagon that night……..Name 1 “pussy asian” that beat rampage

If you were watching the fight between Evans and Salmon…you will here Couture comment on Evans…He was training with Evans and he stated that this man’s wresting was on another level…

I’ve seen alot of little pussy asian cats whip up on ramp…That man was only brought into the UFC so chuck can get his revenge…Evans would totally destroy Rampage Jackson…

Salmon was beating Rashad in the first round with his wrestling skills, so Rashad wasnt even the best wrestler in the octagon that night……..Name 1 “pussy asian” that beat rampage

No he wasn’t beating Rashad…He just fell into his trap…Evans was trying out new things and he wasn’t concentrating on his wrestling skills in that fight in the first round…He was trying to knock this guy out and look good doing it….

Now about Rampage He got beat by the Gracie killer…Sakuraba….in a fight against a guy who’s much much smaller…Quiton just doesn’t seem to have it anymore and he gave up…Shit Shogun took his heart…Hell he got the shit beat out of him…So honestly do you think other fighters don’t know Rampage’s weakness by now…

Chuck only has problems because chuck isn’t a fighter that like other fighters to come in contact with him, he likes to do all the contacting..lol…Shogun put page in the Thai clinch and it was all over….

Evans would destroy Rampage if it went to the ground….This guy is just a stronger, younger and better version of what Ortiz used to be….I know i said that once…but it’s true…look at Tito’s older video’s and you can see the passion he used to have….I see all that in Evans but Rashad is a few years ahead of what Ortiz was at that time…Rashad has decent boxing skills and one hell of a punch.

Seriously … is Rod Sunny’s alter-ego? Some of those comments are ridiculous. Rampage has not faced a single of those “pussy asian” fighters you refer to. He was beaten only by Wanderlei Silva in his recent matches and I doubt anyone will argue that Silva is one of the best fighters out there today (the two recent losses don’t count – he came sick into the fight against hendo – but I am not taking anything away from hendo here, he was great. And the other fight was against Cro Cop, no need to comment that one).

Alot of people give Rampage hell because he didn’t really had dominant performances in Pride in the last years, but then again Chuck Liddell has never fought the high caliber fighters Rampage has (Lindland, Rua, Silva, Arona).

I put my money on Rampage.

Seriously … is Rod Sunny’s alter-ego? Some of those comments are ridiculous. Rampage has not faced a single of those “pussy asian” fighters you refer to. He was beaten only by Wanderlei Silva in his recent matches and I doubt anyone will argue that Silva is one of the best fighters out there today (the two recent losses don’t count – he came sick into the fight against hendo – but I am not taking anything away from hendo here, he was great. And the other fight was against Cro Cop, no need to comment that one).

Alot of people give Rampage hell because he didn’t really had dominant performances in Pride in the last years, but then again Chuck Liddell has never fought the high caliber fighters Rampage has (Lindland, Rua, Silva, Arona).

I put my money on Rampage.

Dude if there anyone here pulling for Quinton it’s me….Hell i know the guy personally….Shit i went to school at the university of Memphis…

I’ve met him several times….So i’m a big fan of PAGE..I just call it like i see it…PAGE hasn’t showed the heart and will in his last 5 or so fights…and he would get his ass whipped when it went to the ground.

…If Evans is training with Sanchez…you can bet one thing for sure…He’s learning the ground game…because only a few people have a better ground game than Sanchez….I would say only Penn can beat him on the ground in the UFC…No one else comes close…

Seriously … is Rod Sunny’s alter-ego?

Not sure who your talking about…but like i said…I call it the way i see it…I like Rampage…but his skills are outdated…This guy has never bother to try and learn any submissions and his stand up is less than average…Shogun really exposed Rampage…I’m sorry but that fight really showed how one dimesional and limited Rampage really is…

Sounds like the same ranting to me. Rampage has never even lost to an asian that I know of. Of course you were probably there watching fights us underpriviledged had no chance to watch. I personally love Rampage Jackson his heart and his attitude. I will also love to see Chuck throw him a lullabie so he can perfect his record.

On the topic up top…..I hope Rashad kicks Tito’s head bobble. Tito learned from jenna how to wh*$e for the camera. He acted his best for the camera and as he said should have been givin the Oscar award for it. Tito made his name picking on a retired champ. Yes Ken ,in his time, was a champion. Even before ufc 1 he was a champion and a legend in asia. Fighting takes a toll on your body, even in boxing so especially that type of fighting. Tito will be a B- fighter at best for the rest of forever. He compares himself to Randy and Chuck!?! Neither one of them even like you Tito! He drops to the fetal position everytime he gets hit by chuck and was spanked like a bad schoolboy against Randy. I personally thought it was a draw with Vitor as well. Coming back what has he done? Who dares bring up Cote’s no winning ass? Forrest? Chuck? What? Tito sucks and I wish nothing but bad things for him. Ole watching the screen to see your face then act crazy for it posing ass.

In fact I say he blames Dana for beating him up and putting him in injured against Rashad….hows that!

I agree with Rod. In the Salmon fight Rashad didn’t come in to wrestle, though he could have won if he did. The criticism he got in his early fights came from him relying on his wrestling too much, he realized nobody likes Lay n’ Pray fighter’s. He continualy expands his game and is working very hard on being a complete fighter. You saw in the Salmon up fight that rashad is working on his stand up. Tito has never knocked anybody out on his feet. And Tito will never be a better wrestler than Rashad. I Predict Tito getting knocked out with a PUNCH. It was a good kick but it was against SEAN SALMON, people need to stop comparing Rashad to Cro Cop. But most importantly, Rashad is exponentially better in every fight he’s in a very very Competitive camp. Gaidojutsu is no joke. I higly doubt that tito will win this fight.

Anyone who says tito lost the fight to griffin is a total moron. First of all, at no point in that fight did forrest ever do any damage to tito, who had a leg and a back injury btw. Tito gassed after the first round and the only time forrest did anything was in the last 2 minutes of the 2nd round. Forrest is a solid fighter but if he ever gets to fight tito at 100%, then he will seriously get killed. k anyway, i do think rashad could beat tito but only if tito fucks up. I think tito is pretty angry over loosing to liddell so he’ll probably beat “sugar” rashad evans’ass.

I like TITO and I wish him all the best in his future fights.
TITO can win Rashad he is not big problem for Tito but still I think TITO has big chance to get LH-belt till and of this year.
BOG I HRVATI !!!

Ortiz is done…and Evans will finally put a fork in him….Who has Ortiz beaten worth something in the past 2 years?….Ken Shamrock….LOL….Forrest “cry baby” Griffin….LOL….

Evans is gonna roast that bird name Tito…..and finally send him to the WWE were he belongs..Tito’s nothing but drama….maybe he should be making porn video’s with his girl instead….Atleast he can attempt to throw more than just “Hot Air” around. Evans by Knockout in first round….notice i said Knock out…not TKO..

Cant believe I am going to have to listen to this for the next 3 months…..

Maybe you guys are right, I’ll jump on the band wagon, Predictions = Rashad LHW & HW champ by early 08’
opponents = who cares cause he is the best MMA fighter of all time.
Oh yeah, almost forgot …..all by first round KO.

I don’t see a first round KO happening, in all likelyhood it will be a decision win, possibly a late second or third round TKO. I just think that Rashad can out work Tito, Tito’s “dominating” ground and pound turns out to be mediocre at best when he faces a top tier wrestler like Rashad Evans. Do I think Rashad can beat Chuck? In a year or two maybe, but if they put him up against Liddell in 07’ it will be lambs to the slaughter. Despite all the hater’s there are Liddell is without question the top 205’er in the world. No, Rua cannot beat Liddell, definitely not in the UFC, and not likely in Pride because he’ll never get chuck on his back long enough to stomp him. There are a lot of great LHW but none of them, barring maybe (just because of his style)Rampage the Iceman.

Very funny Mayberry, and I do understand why your annoyed, it seems like everyone jumped on the Rashad Bandwagon after that high kick. Let me reiterate, if you think that Rashad Evans is going to be anything like Cro Cop your fucking nuts, Cro Cop was at one point in the top 5 in K-1 level kick boxing, only when you reach that level of skill, speed, and accuracy can you have the confidence to throw kicks around like you’ve never even heard of a single leg takedown. Rashad landed it in a fight where he knew that his opponent came to wrestle and not fight, it was the perfect opportunity to try something new. But I’ve been a rashad evans fan since he beat mike Whitehead, I knew it then that with more experience and training he could become a monster and he’s in the perfect camp for that. Rashad’s strength is in his wrestling, punches, and heavyweight power. Those three skill sets make for a ground an pound nightmare. But whats better is that he enjoys stand up so he’ll also entertain the uneducated noobs to MMA.

Tito TKO by GNP in the 2nd round, followed by gravedigger routine, then donning T-shirt reading “Rashad Evans – Go Have A Sandwich.”

Tito loses to Chuck Liddell and that makes him overrated? Tito has never lost to a non-elite fighter: Mezger (very good at the time), Frank Shamrock, Chuck twice, Randy Couture.

When Rashad can logically be put in the last sentence let me know.

I am not a Tito fan and if he does not evolve, the game may pass him by. But as of now, he is too much for Rashad.

yo i tito and rashad were both my favorites and then i saw tito talk all that trash to liddell and get his ass whip rashad alwayz shows respect them kicks ass like his last fight. RASHAD IS GOANNA WIN

Forest did not beat tito.Tito won a close fight but thats bullshit to think forest won.Everybody loves forest and hates tito so i understand the stigma that follows a close fight between a fan favorite and shit talker.However tito is going to show rashaad the difference between good fighter and near great fighter.Tito will ground and pound his ass to tko by the second.I was much more excited about the possibility if jardine ortiz.Tito is not a BUM,he just has lost to the best in the world.He runs his mouth and needs a PR guy bad but,he is a top 5 fighter at the 205lb division and rashaad is top 15.(jardine around 8)

Why do people think that Jardine is the shit? Do you actually beleive that Jardine is that good? Have you seen his fights? All he has is power, he admittedly has a very tough time against rashad. In fact after beating forrest he said I know Forrest is tough but he’s no Rashad. Tito ortiz would fuck Jardine’s shit up. Forrest was picking Jardine apart.

Tito Ortiz vs Jardine or Evans will be a great bout..this is gona make or break tito’s career..i love tito, he is my fav fighter however it seemed to me that he approached the liddell fight as if he was scared and not ready to break his face as he is with every other opponent..he needs to get that same killer instinctive attitude when he fights liddell again…Evans and Jardine are rising to the top they’re both so young and will fight for the belt soon but again they both need to fight someone of the A list in the light heavyweight division.
Liddell is already fighting Jackson, thats crazyyy..its like how Silva got a title shot after 1 fight in the UFC, Anderson is the man but im jus saying tho, that these guys should have at least 2-3 tests b4 fighting for the belt…also Liddell was sick for about 4-6 full weeks cuz of some b.s. advertisement he had to do(not with the UFC tho) how is he gona be for this fight? isn’t his training gona be affected? if he comes in 100% Liddell won’t ever be beaten and the only way anyone else will get this title is whenever he retires or moves up to heavyweight to fight couture since liddell’s belly is getting bigger every fight lol..hes the man tho

Predictions: St. Pierre knock out…Sanchez decision…St. Pierre knock out over Sanchez in Montreal at UFC 73 or 74

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This is DEFINITELY going to be the fight that either saves or kills Tito’s career. I like Tito well enough, but I have to agree with a lot of the folks here. Until Tito trains HARD, Rashad’s going to beat him to the “living death” (damn, that’s always going to be funny!). As for Rashad, I know people have pegged him as a “lay and pray”, but you know what? If he sucks so much, how come no one has been able to figure out how to get around that so far? If I could beat my opponents with a minimal amount of energy, I would too! TEAM EVANS!

Dana put rampage against chuck so quickly because he doesn’t want rampage to win. He wants Chuck to knock Rampage out so that they get a rubber match. That shit was unfair, he did the same thing to Anderson Silva because rich Franklin was his poster boy and he knew that eventually Anderson Silva would destroy him, but it backfired on his ass. Rampage wanted another fight with a taller guy to help him prepare for Chuck but Dana had to be a dick.

listen, im a 110% Tito fan, tito was out of fighting for a year for injuries before pounding on wonderlia silva, who buy fact wooped Rampages ass. then tito didnt fight for two years before fighting Griffen, Tito was wooping Griffens ass in the first round, the fight should of been stopped. Rashard was losing his last fight to a UFC new comer until he kicked him in the head. get you story straight people. Tito wants it more, he is Tito Ortiz, he aint done. Oo rashdad is a wrestler? well Tito is a two time state champion in wrestling.

I am also a Tito fan but he needs to get over the Liddell hump and stop treating him like he’s his old best friend and cant fight him…his attitude needs to change but other than that Ortiz will beat anyone who comes in his way…but again Liddell is the man to beat

rashad evans will knock tito out. as everyone is saying tito is living off those shamrock fights,which is 100% true. look what happened when he fought chuck. the iceman fucked him up. tito needs 2 find whatever the hell he was doing in the old ufc days and bring it back. now he relies on dana feeding him easy opponents. rashad is no easy opponent. he will eat tito. tito thinks waaaaaaaaaaayyyy to much of himself. he needs 2 get a reality check….he aint the champ ne more.

TITO WILL DO HIS PART AND TAKE OUT RASHAD AND HE WILL GET HIS BELT BACK FROM RAMPAGE OR CHUCK

I agree with mayberry I think no one can predict a UFC bout, for example UFC 70 was possibly the biggest upset in MMA this year !!. nobody thought Gonzaga would win.

It all depends on who takes there chances and comes prepaired