UFC 68 preview, analysis and predictions
by MMAmania.com on Mar 2, 2007 12:51 PM EST
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With UFC 68 literally right around the corner — tomorrow, actually — we thought it would be fun to provide readers with two unique perspectives on the main card fights.
In the blue corner, your loyal and dedicated host, UFCmania. And in the red corner, your insightful and witty contributor, Jesse Holland.
Who were you expecting, Kevin James and Michael Clarke Duncan?
Below, you'll see that we both took one fighter in each bout to support. It's important to note that while we may be lauding a certain fighter, he isn't necessarily the guy who we think is going to win.
Basically, we didn't want this to come out sounding repetitive. That's because, believe it or not, Jesse and I occasionally agree on a few things ... occasionally.
At the end of each analysis, therefore, you will see our picks.
(Note: we feel the Jon Fitch-Luigi Fioravanti fight is more compelling and interesting than the Martin Kampmann-Drew McFederies bout. Therefore, we're going to review that one instead ... and there's nothing you can do about it!)
And one more thing: This is our first crack at this ... so go easy!
Here we go:
Tim "The Maine-iac�? Sylvia (23-2) vs. Randy "The Natural�? Couture (14-8)
UFCmania: If there is one 43-year-old fighter on this planet who can take a year off and compete in a UFC heavyweight bout, it's Randy Couture. He relishes the underdog role and has won nine of 10 career fights in that capacity (Liddell II the lone exception). Couture has been training with giants such as Dan Christison (6'8�?), Dan Evenson (6'7�?) Frank Mir (he's fat) and others to prepare for the 270-pound, 6'8�? champion. At around 225 pounds, Couture is going to need to come out strong and set the tempo. Sylvia is well-conditioned and can easily go five rounds. Couture will be in shape, too, but with the long layoff and pushing Sylvia around for 15 minutes, he could tire significantly heading into the final two rounds if he doesn't end it before then. Look for Couture to mash Sylvia up against the fence early and often, pepper him with knees and short punches, and then go for the trip. Couture doesn't have knockout power and Sylvia has never been knocked out. However, "The Natural�? is quick and adept on the ground, which is where he will win this fight. In his two losses, Sylvia has proven that he can be submitted. And, in the fight with Jeff Monson, Sylvia showed that his takedown defense is not airtight. Look for Couture to exploit these two areas and do what Monson was unable to do and finish this fight early. Couture will make it a night of threes on March 3: He'll hand Sylvia his third submission defeat and wrap his third UFC title around his waste.
Jesse Holland: Tim Sylvia will not lose to Randy Couture. You can ridicule his striking, but you cannot dispute the facts: 70 percent of his wins come by way of KO or TKO. For someone who is supposedly lanky and devoid of rhythm, he's done an admirable job of knocking people out. Dangerous at any angle, Sylvia can KO an opponent with knees (Boyd Ballard), legs (Tra Telligman), and hands (too many to list). At 43, Couture has neither the speed nor the strength to topple the Maine-ac and his conditioning is almost guaranteed to fail from repeated attempts. Sylvia on the other hand can go five rounds without breaking a sweat as we've seen in his battles against Monson and Arlovski. In 2002 Randy made the decision to leave the heavyweight division because of two consecutive losses to larger opponents with dangerous hands (Barnett, Rodriguez). Now over four years later, history looks to repeat itself.
Final predictions:
UFCmania: Couture by submission — you gotta believe!
Holland: Sylvia by devastating KO
Rich "Ace�? Franklin (20-2) vs. Jason "The Athlete�? MacDonald (18-7)
UFCmania: After two consecutive first-round stoppages of Ed Herman and Chris Leben, "TUF Killer�? Jason MacDonald has earned himself the opportunity of a lifetime ... for now. MacDonald, whose confidence must be off the charts, has drawn the former middleweight champion and number one contender, Rich Franklin, proving that no good deed in the Octagon goes unpunished. Franklin is saying all the right things, but he will never be able to erase the feeling of being crumbled in a broken heap after his devastating loss to Anderson Silva five months ago at UFC 64. I'm no full-time fighter, but the mental part of this sport is just as important as the physical. And right now, MacDonald clearly has that edge. During the past year, MacDonald has poured himself into training and the results clearly show his improvement. He's on a six-fight win streak and looked to continue on that path, hooking up with super trainer Greg Jackson to prepare for this fight. MacDonald is long and wirey like Silva and holds a one-inch height advantage over Franklin. Granted, his striking is pitiful in comparison to Silva, but his submissions are no joke. Look for MacDonald stay alive in the standup long enough to get this thing to the mat. From there, he's crafty and technical enough to pull off an upset.
Jesse Holland: Come back Rich, all is forgiven. Many fighters are never the same after brutal stoppages like the one Anderson Silva handed Franklin. This will hold true in Franklin's case as well - only he will come back better than ever. Too smart and too driven for jitters or baby-steps, look for "Ace�? to punish MacDonald for the loss to Silva. MacDonald, who likes to promote himself as the TUF killer for choking out Chris Leben and Ed Herman, fails to disclose his TKO loss to Kalib Starnes and his RNC submission to Patrick Cote. He doesn't have the hands to test Franklin's unreliable chin and the former champ is too quick and too strong on the ground to be submitted by MacDonald. Against Leben MacDonald seemed to fight in slow motion (ironic since he calls himself "The Athlete�?) and if he expects to get out of the first round against Franklin he'll need to make drastic improvements or else find himself making the highlight reel with a Quarry-esque knockout.
Final predictions:
UFCmania: Franklin by late TKO after a few scares
Holland: Franklin by second-best KO of the evening (behind Sylvia)
Chris "Light Out�? Lytle (22-13-5) vs. Matt Hughes (40-5)
UFCmania: Matt Hughes is looking for redemption on March 3 and he will be redeemed thanks to Chris Lytle. For years, Hughes has been at the top of the food chain in one of the toughest divisions in all of mixed martial arts. During this time, Lytle was rescuing cats from trees back in Indiana as a local fireman. No disrespect to Lytle or his profession, but I'm just trying to make the point that these two are so far apart in terms of skill level that he shouldn't be considered a serious threat to the former champion. Sure, Hughes is coming off a loss. But, it was to Georges St. Pierre. And prior to that, he dropped one to BJ Penn. Hughes doesn't lose often, but when he does, he loses to the best fighters. Lytle does not even crack the Top 10 at welterweight in the UFC as far as I'm concerned. Look for Hughes to take this thing south from the get-go and soften up Lytle with a mean dose of ground and pound. In his fight with Matt Serra, Lytle spent a lot of time in the clinch thwarting tosses and takedowns. Make no mistake, Hughes will takedown Lytle in those same situations, unlike Serra, and then proceed to bash his face in. I see this ending similar to the Royce Gracie bout, only Lytle puts up more of a defense and tries to scramble. In doing so, he'll give up his back and leave himself open to a submission.
Jesse Holland: Hughes today, gone tomorrow. We'll eventually see the rubber match between Hughes and St. Pierre unless of course "Lights Out�? Lytle shocks the world with a win against the former champ. Hughes looked like a deer in the headlights against GSP and unlike Franklin, I don't know if he's put it behind him. I have my doubts about his mental preparation and the way he's been riding the bible lately I half expect him to float to the cage on Saturday with stubby little wings like a muscular, compact cherub. Lytle's been something of a journeyman himself, but even Desert Dog would be willing to bet he's been mastering his takedown defense in preparation for Hughes. If Hughes can't shoot, he can't score. Lytle has a background rich in boxing and if he keeps himself off the mat he could pepper his way to a unanimous decision.
Final prediction:
UFCmania: Hughes by submission
Holland: Hughes by TKO (Strikes)
Jason "The Punisher�? Lambert (22-6) vs. Renato "Babalu�? Sobral (27-6)
UFCmania: After his demoralizing loss to Chuck Liddell at UFC 63 in August 2006, Renato "Babalu�? Sobral disappeared. Now, he's back and will look to throw his name back into 205-pound title contention against Jason Lambert. Sobral is once again up against a striker with heavy hands. However, Lambert is nowhere near Liddell's level. Accordingly, Sobral can afford to exchange with Lambert to set up the takedown and not bumrush him like a suicide bomber. From there, the Brazilian jiu-jitsu practitioner should have carte blanche to sink in whichever submission he feels like applying. Lambert does have some impressive success prior to the loss to Rashad Evans and is extremely strong. He could catch Babalu and drop him, but I think Sobral will control a majority of this bout on the Octagon floor.
Jesse Holland: Babalu has a cult following in the MMA world and while I‘ll concede that he's a gifted grappler, he's not quite upper echelon due to his inability to defeat A-level fighters (Shogun - who was still wet behind the ears - doesn't count). Lambert finished 50 percent of his fights via KO/TKO and Babalu submitted his opponents 50 percent of the time. With such close records, this contrast can make the fight extremely exciting or extremely dull. I favor the latter, and predict a lot of Lambert's time spent defending the sub. Babalu's had the tougher journey (and more impressive wins) but with the Chuck loss still on his mind Lambert could capitalize and do just enough to squeak out the decision.
Final prediction:
UFCmania: Sobral by unanimous decision
Holland: Sobral by Submission
Jon Fitch (12-2) vs. Luigi Fioravanti (10-1)
UFCmania: Jon Fitch is a man on a mission in 2007 to be regarded as a noticable and dangerous welterweight title contender. He's taken out some of the top fringe fighters in the division such as Thiago Alves, Josh Burkman and Kuniyoshi Hironaka. In Columbus, Ohio, look for him to add Luigi Fioravanti to that list. I'm a big supporter of both these fighters, which makes it difficult to take one side. However, Fitch puts the mix in mixed martial arts. He's got tremendeous all-around skills, while Fioravanti has made a name for himself as a solid striker despite his jiu-jitsu background. Whether it's wrestling, kickboxing, boxing or grappling, Fitch showed against Hironaka that he is the real deal in all aspects. Ringside announcer that night, Randy Couture, even marveled at the display, commenting that Fitch was putting on a clinic. Fioravanti will do well in the stand up, but won't be able to avoid the quick takedowns. From there, Fitch will look to end this fight early.
Jesse Holland: Jon Fitch hasn't lost since 2002 and that may work against him on Saturday. He's been on such a tear lately that he may be looking past Fioravanti to get to fighters like Karo Parisyan. Luigi however is no pushover and while he's only been on the scene since 2005 his striking continues to improve and he's won his last three fights by KO/TKO. Fitch has the edge in submissions but I don't see this one ending on the mat. In fact they're so closely matched, this has the potential to be the fight of the night and I expect a three round war. I give Fiorvanti the edge as a frustrated Fitch starts to unravel in round three.
Final prediction:
UFCmania: Fitch by submission
Holland : Fioravanti by unanimous decision
That's all we've got for now. Our coverage of UFC 68 has been rather intense leading up to the event. Check everything out in our UFC 68 archives if you're just stopping in for the first time.
And don't forget to check out the column from our resident handicapper, Desert Dog, who is sharing some good tips and advice for the fights tomorrow that can help you make some serious cash.
Of course, we'll be around all weekend providing the latest reports and updates.
But, in the meantime, don't forget to watch the UFC 68 weigh-in today online at 4 p.m. EST on NBCSports.com or MSNSympatico.
For the entire UFC 68 fight card click here.
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Can’t wait for UFC 68, I feel it’s gonna be a great card. I do agree with you guys that the Fitch/Fioravanti will be more exciting than the McFredies/Kampmann bout. Great insight on each of the fights, keep up the good work.
by Bx1551 on Mar 2, 2007 1:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Babalu by decision? Stay away from Liddell UFCmania! He giving you the Nyquil Blues.
by MoreThanUFC on Mar 2, 2007 1:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
great job guys they look good…My predictions, Fitch by something devistating, Babalu by submission early, Hughes by get this, decision…Rich by ealry TKO, may be a highlight real, fingers crossed, and last but not least…RANDY by decision….you heard it hear…not if im wrong and Sylvia gets the viscious KO, i wont regret my prediction, i will never once admit that Sylvia can KO Couture
by MMA Dude on Mar 2, 2007 1:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
sylvia by ko in the 4th
rich by ko in the 2nd
hughes by submission in 1st
babs by submission in the 2nd
fitch by ko in the 2nd
by tha spida on Mar 2, 2007 1:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I can’t believe no one is talking about Hamill vs. Holman. I mean seriously, they almost have 10 fights between them. Despite the sarcasm, I actually would like to see this one. Being as niehter one of them has much experience, I expect that it will be a brawl, without too much sound technique. Plus, the only way they are going to show it is if it ends up ending in specatcular fasion.
I won’t make any predictions myself. The only fights I really care about are the Sylvia and Hughes fights because I would like to see them loose. However, I don’t feel I have much chance of being satisfied by the outcomes there.
by Mahde on Mar 2, 2007 1:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Babalu wins Lambert by some of his top submission techniques.
by n_memorex on Mar 2, 2007 1:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I am the Babalu Cult! Keep talking that Ortiz trash that Babalu is a “B” Fighter jesse. You’ll will see. Just because Chuck kicked his ass (twice) doesn’t take away the fact that he is a BMF. It’s just that Chucks is a little bader MF. Look at the body of work not the last picture.
by All American on Mar 2, 2007 1:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Im most looking foward to the Fitch fight. Problem is i might not see it. GOD DAMN YOU UFC
by Druby Sunshine on Mar 2, 2007 2:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sobral is a top talent, no doubt about it. But in order to be considered one of the greats, you have to perform on the big stage. To date, Babalu has not been able to do that.
I’m not saying having a title makes you great, but you have to make it look like you belong. His two fights with Chuck were not five-round wars – he couldn’t get out of the first round without being knocked out.
And please don’t lump me in with the likes of Ortiz because I’m down on Babalu. Tito in my eyes is also a B-level fighter. Like you said, it’s all about the big picture!
by Jesse Holland on Mar 2, 2007 2:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
To people forget that Babalu beat Shogun AND Horn in THE SAME NIGHT!?
Babalu will eat Lamberts insides by 3:30 of the first round.
by Tim Sylvia on Mar 2, 2007 2:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’ll just be repeating every single prediction out there if I say Babalu by submission. It’s no lock, that’s for sure. Both of these guys are coming off of long layoffs and might not be sharp. Lambert isn’t a total can, either. I don’t think it’s outside the realm of possibility that this fight goes to the scorecards. At least I didn’t say he can’t beat good fighters, like someone else I know.
by UFCmania on Mar 2, 2007 2:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Shogun was 21 and had less than a year of experience. Horn is a journeyman who isn’t even ranked in the top ten.
by Jesse Holland on Mar 2, 2007 2:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
COUTURE BY SUBMISSION 2ND I DO BELIEVE
HUGHES BY KO 2ND
MACDONALD BY KO 3RD
SOBRAL BY DESTRUCTION IN THE 1ST
FITCH BY KO 1ST
by CHRIS on Mar 2, 2007 2:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That’s the great thing about my partner UFCmania. I reach for a life preserver, he throws me an anvil.
by Jesse Holland on Mar 2, 2007 2:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey Jesse, I understand what you’re saying it’s just that everyone looks at the lidell fights. I don’t think Babalu will walk through Jason like alot of folks, I actually think it will be a good match. I don’t think its so much that Tito or Babalu are “B” fighters its just that Chuck makes them look like “B” fighters. I definately think that Babalu has to improve his standup and agression to be considered a real top dog. I was just watching some of his previous fights and it seems he is a sucker for a guitine choke. I just get irritated when I think he gets the respect of being a #1 contender.
by All American on Mar 2, 2007 2:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Time to drown Jesse. Here catch…. He only beat three fighters that night. Who cant do that? Babalu is coming into his prime in MMA, and Liddell is taking Nyquil dreaming of bouts with CC and Fedor. His time is coming.
I try not to ever say who my favorite fighters are, as I try to be as objective as I can, but I will say this one: Babalu is by far my favorite fighter. And objectively speaking, besides Liddell ( you got lucky Chuck! ), no one has been able to stop him other than the judges. Sure, he lost to Fedor in Rings I think, but, ah, who hasnt? Babalu spent most of his life fighting HWs because there really wasnt a LHW division anywhere he fought. But the guy has fought and will fight anybody, anywhere. BTW, if you ask Liddell, he trained harder for the last Babalu fight than any fight in his career. And I think he actually meant it. Also, props to Liddell, DW didnt want that fight to happen yet, but Chuck asked for it.
I still think Big John stopped that one very quick. He’s been dropped like that before and won fights.
Babalu over Lambert via dismembermant Rd 1.
Think of any of these fights and tell me you arent chomping to see them:
Babalu vs Couture, Rampage, Franklin, Ortiz, Evans, Rua II, Wandy ( the one I really want). They all sound freaking awesome….at least to me.
by MoreThanUFC on Mar 2, 2007 2:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
correction- when he doesn’t get the respect of being a top contender.
by All American on Mar 2, 2007 2:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You forgot the loss to Dan Henderson!
Just kidding. You guys make great points, hard to argue against them. Thanks for the feedback it’s what keeps this site great!
by Jesse Holland on Mar 2, 2007 2:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hope your right MorethanUFC. I hope Babalu reestablishes himself as the BMF that he is. He is my favorite fighter by far.
by All American on Mar 2, 2007 2:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey Jesse, I put alot of stock in what you have to say. I think you really know your stuff. Thanks for the conversation. almost time for weigh ins!!!
by All American on Mar 2, 2007 3:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I definately want Randy to win guys,but i dont see where alot of you think he is gonna win by submission…Frank Mir had to break Sylvias arm and he didnt quit, Arlovski rocked his socked then muscled that leg lock, Randy wont be abole to hit as hard as Arlovski, and then Sylvia was able to roll with Monson who is an Abu Dabi champion…Randy hasnt submitted very many guys, Sylvias no exception…Randy by decison, if not ground and pound
by MMA Dude on Mar 2, 2007 3:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i too drank a liter of niquil..thats rocked his socks, able to hit hard and i dont think anyone knows how to spell Adu Dabi??
by MMA Dude on Mar 2, 2007 3:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
everyone please note Fitch will lose tko watch and know you heard it here!!!!!
by jcctexas on Mar 2, 2007 3:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think you spelled abu dabi correctly…..more nyquil please…..hic..up….
by wildbill on Mar 2, 2007 3:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sylvia by ko
Macdonald by submission
Hughes by tko
Babalu by submission
And you betta beleave it
Luigi Fioravanti ko in the first round! why dose everyone dout this guy, hes the fucking man!
by joe on Mar 2, 2007 3:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Couture in the 2nd
Ritch if his A game is on but if he thinks about his plastic surgeon…JMAC will take it. Good night!
Hughes….come on lets see GSP kick your ass one more time! SO win this one.
Babalu by submission in the 2nd
by Jo on Mar 2, 2007 3:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The only people who have beaten Babalu in the last SIX F’ING YEARS are Liddell (twice, #1 LHW in the world), Fedor Emilianenko (#1 HW in the world) and Kevin Randleman (former UFC HW champ, knocked out Cro Cop). Lambert is in way over his head.
by PW on Mar 2, 2007 3:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree, that Babalu isnt getting the love he deserves. The only reason that his last fight with Liddell didnt last long was that he tried something new and fucking retarded, especially against a guy like Chuck. Evans owned Lambert and Babalu will do the same if not more.
Also, Jo has changed my mind. I want to see Hughes win so GSP can prove that the last fight was no fluke.
by Mahde on Mar 2, 2007 4:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like the dueling predictions. I have to go with Jesse on this one.
by Burn on Mar 2, 2007 5:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
where do you get your records of wins and losses at? most of them are wrong.
by Tyler on Mar 2, 2007 6:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
My money’s on Dent in a 3 rd decision against Tibau! Dude’s got great cardio, and what I have seen on Tibau, he seems to gas in later rounds, and on top of that, I heard Tibau came in 15 pounds heavy 2 days before the fight… I dont care who you are, that has to take a toll on the body!
by MMA FAN on Mar 2, 2007 7:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i liked couture a lot but i think its going to lose by decision.
by rop122 on Mar 2, 2007 8:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I thought Babalu would win anyway, but after seeing Lambert in the weigh-ins….Babalu will kill him.
by All American on Mar 2, 2007 10:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
IS HISTORY REPEATING ITSELF? TIM SILVIA JUICING AGAIN!
Okay everyone, here is some inside information. Tim Silvia was in the past stripped of his title due to testing positive for steriods.
I am positive he is on the program again. How do I know this? I myself and a group of friends years ago did this, and when you juice for a certain amount of time and take certain steriods, which I will not name, your face gets a larger rounder fuller look, that juicers nick name “omni jaw”. ( this is a slang word used to describe the jaw muscle getting slightly bigger) Tim Silva’s face on Count Down To UFC 68 showed me all the signs that he has that “omni jaw”, plus he looked heavier and much younger, because he is juicing again.
What, does Tim have to gain more weight and crank just to make himself feel more confident in that he has a better chance to beat a real HW Champion.
I emplore UFC and Dana White to have Tim Silvia tested.
My pics:
Couture round 3 submission
Jason MacDonald round 2
Highes ground and pound round 1
Sobral
by SunnY Santoro on Mar 3, 2007 12:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
He has juiced in the past, but do u really think he would risk getting caught… again??? and losing his title? I dunno, I really don’t like Sylvia, think he is boring to watch, but am not buying into this. And I wouldnt call that inside info from a picture you saw of him, more of an opinion, inside info is.. well… nevermind… lol
by MMA FAN on Mar 3, 2007 12:21 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sunny,
Ohio law Chapter 3773-1-12 “Drug Testing” (Section G) states that “…because of the importance of championship or title bouts, all contestants in such events shall be subject to mandatory alcohol and drug testing…”
You’ve made a serious accusation and one that I’m afraid is unfounded. Like Ohio, Nevada also has a mandatory test for all title fights and Sylvia to date, continues to test clean.
We welcome your feedback but try to keep it fair and factual. Don’t blame steroids for Tim’s rounder, fuller look. Blame genetics!
J-
by Jesse Holland on Mar 3, 2007 1:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
My apologies, it’s actually Section F.
Section G covers urine samples.
by Jesse Holland on Mar 3, 2007 1:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have it on good authority that the Lame-iac has been drinking large quantities of duffus juice.
This fact is supported by my perception that his simple presence (and lumbering walk) has doubled in goofiness over the past many months.
by savior on Mar 3, 2007 2:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
If i were fighting Tim Sylvia i would go for a power punch to his flabby gut, i don’t like Sylvia, actually i don’t like any of the milatach camp boys, fisher alright but the rest suck.
Oh I change my Babalu prediction, Babalu Ko in the first! He said he wanted to keep the fight up
by joe on Mar 3, 2007 4:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was there, so I back up savior. I was at a grocery store in Mahine and sahw Timay buhying lahge quahtities of duffus juice.
by MoreThanUFC on Mar 3, 2007 12:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Check out Babalu’s interview prefight on UFC.com.
He says, “I know what I have to do. I’m going to kill him.”
If you have been a fan of Babalu’s or know anything about him, he is very religious and a genuinely nice guy. I almost fell over laughing. It’s the way he says it, I guess. Check it out.
by MoreThanUFC on Mar 3, 2007 6:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Okay guys, let me tell you something…. as a previous body builder and having a husband in the MMA world, fighters know how to manipulate their bodies and know exactly how much time they need to not test posititve by flushing their system.
And Jesse, I appreciate your knowledge about the testing codes and sections, but I have first hand watched fighters do chelation therapy or blood transfusions days or even 1 week prior to a fight.
Tim Silvia not only has gained weight, but has that unmistakable omni jaw juicing look that I have personally done to myself and have seen with other friends. Explain the massive pimples all over his shoulders and back. Tell me Jesse, is it nornal to get pimples behind your knees naturally, noooooooooooo.
Sincerely,
SunnY
And do I think he would risk taking steriods again, absolutely because his title is Randy’s.
by SunnY Santoro on Mar 3, 2007 6:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sunny,
I love having you on this site. I really do. Call me crazy but I really dig a person who stands behind their beliefs – even when they fly in the face of common sense. Since I haven’t seen the back of Sylvia’s knees (and since I never did steroids with my wife) I’ll have to take your word for it.
Your friend (and admirer),
Jesse
by Jesse Holland on Mar 3, 2007 7:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sunny Sunny Sunny….As much as I dislike Tim and his ‘current’ Tim’id style. I must agree with Jesse. Where do you get off acting soo arrogant and pretending as if you know for a ‘fact’ he is on steriods. You can’t, even though you are a juicer doesn’t give you a psychic ability to know nothing about another man. I would sure love to see the face behind the name and messages. (unless your horribly ugly from this omni jaw you claim to have!!!)
by Tommy on Mar 3, 2007 9:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sunny, are you the same person going around to every mma forum site claiming Liddell is on HGH? Seriously, Poopie has problems, but he is tested after every fight, and Nevada is pretty thorough in its testing.
by MoreThanUFC on Mar 3, 2007 9:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Okay everyone, first off, I have stated on numerous occasions that I am a married FEMALE.
Secondly, I only have been on this site, not on other MMA sites, and I don’t disrespect any fighters, especially Chuck Liddell! But what I do have a issue with is that I stated I used steriods for 1 year many years ago, and that when you use a substance, there are physical and emotional side effects that are visible, especially to other people who use similiar substances. For individuals who have never used these substances, they do not have a clue what to look for or are blinded and niave when it comes to seeing actual physical side effects that are only seen through using steroids.
But this is not important, I also have a medical degree, and my husband has been teaching MMA for over 25 years. So I am very confident in what I state because I have the personal experience and education to back this up.
For everyone out there, especially TOMMY,
I am 31 years of age 36dd 25 35 125 beautiful and best of all very intelligent.
I can vouch for that, I am her husband, and she is the most beautiful woman in the world. Sincerely, ULTIMATEFIGHTER
AND FOR JESSE AND EVERYONE ELSE OUT THERE THIS IN NOT ABOUT ME, IT’S ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SAID FOR 2 MONTHS THAT RANDY WOULD TAKE THE BELT BACK!
WE LOVE YOU RANDY, YOU ARE THE MAN.
WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN LOYAL FANS AND HAVE NEVER DOUBTED YOU!
SINCERELY,
SunnY SantorO and UltimatE FighteR
P.S.
RANDY IS NOT A LOSING PROPOSITION
AND I GUARANTEE YOU, ALL IS QUITE ON THE MILITICH FRONT!
EVEN THOUGH TIM LOST, HE SHOULD STILL BE TESTED FOR STERIODS
I GUARANTEE IT, HE WILL TEST POSITIVE
by SunnY Santoro on Mar 4, 2007 2:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ok, ok. I hope your wrong about Tim, not for him, but for the sport. But what if you are right? Then what your saying is that Nevada’s best in the nation testing system doesnt work, that MMA is due for a steriod scandal like baseball, that everyone at Militech would have to know since they all live together for months at a time, that your only evidence is the Omni Jaw ( that is also common to ppl with mild gigantism like Sylvia has ), and that Dana White would stand for it? The answer to these questions are why Jesse and I aint buying it.
BTW, what school has your husband been teaching MMA at for 25 years? I used to live in Japan and Korea and Thailand and Colombia when I was in the Army and since there were no MMA schools in the US 25 years ago, I might know you guys. If I wasnt at work, I was at a club watching pancrase, shooto, mauy thai, jui jitsu, or any thing else those crazy foreigners could dream up to kill each other.
by MoreThanUFC on Mar 4, 2007 2:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You sound funny Sunny. As always I never hide behind words. Myspace Victoria Lane in Orlando fl. and I’m Tommy. Thats my girl so whatever muscle jaw I’m willing to bet she smokes you!!! Damn internet gangsters, I hate you!!! Love to meet you mma training man. Maybe Babalu should take them so he can get muscle jaw too. And Tim will be tested didn’t your man with his extensive mma traing and experience teach you that?
by Tommy on Mar 4, 2007 5:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And Tim thats some great insight you have buddy. Babalu got knocked out from Chuck by one little punch and you thinks hes great? Tito and Babalu would be a great fight though!!! They both hate to be punched in the face.
by Tommy on Mar 4, 2007 6:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Me thinks Sunny is a schitzo…both man and women trapped in the same omni jaw….
by Tommy on Mar 4, 2007 6:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
When you have hundreds of millions of dollars changing hands, don’t think for one second that no one turns their back!
by SunnY Santoro on Mar 5, 2007 12:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
You are one sexy woman, Tommy. I’d feel gay moaning, “Tommy” in bed though.:) I hope you go by Victoria or Vicky and not Tommy or Vic.
What school is that in the pics on your site? Looks like JJ, but could be Sambo, hard to tell.
by MoreThanUFC on Mar 5, 2007 2:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Your a funny guy More. Maybe you can joke a girl into bed. Surely someone that knows as much as you can tell the differance between a mans words and a ladies and would look at the pics to see who I am if you came all the way to myspace to see.. (unless the lady shoots roids,,then its hard to tell) Thats my homeboy in s. fl. @ A. T. T. Funny sunny never showed. Either she felt her jaw was indeed ugly compaired to my girls…or she/he decided to stop talkin tuff while their ahead.
by Tommy on Mar 5, 2007 2:23 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I live in Lake Mary, Fl just up the road from you. My previous instructor has retired, and was hoping there was another good JJ/Kempo school around, or at least one someone could recommend. I hate plunking down $40 only to find out the instructors got their belts in the mail.
by MoreThanUFC on Mar 5, 2007 2:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah att has two loc here in orlando…one is predominatly bjj i’ll get his number for you…his name is renalto. but i gotta give in private so ask on the myspace page.
by Tommy on Mar 5, 2007 10:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Instructor: Renato Tavares
Address: 10018 University Blvd. – Orlando, FL. 32817
Phone: (407) 677-5269
E-mail: Renatousaatt@hotmail.com
This I can give you here though.
by Tommy on Mar 5, 2007 8:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Certified Medical Facts about Steriods and their Side Effects.
The “omni-jaw” characteristics actually starts to diminish and eventually disappear from 6 -12 weeks after stopping a cycle or program. There are many types of steriods, but they fall into 3 categories. Catabolic, Anabolic and Androgenic.
Catabolic steriods are medically prescribed to help with breathing ( steriods found in puffers and medications for ashyma) and inflammation such as bowel disorders like Crohn’s disease or Collitis. Catabolic steriods have nothing to do with building muscle, actually this class of steriods has a pitfall. While helping a patient with breathing or inflammation, it’s worst side effect is that it actually eats your muscle tissue, leaving just the fat behind it. Thats why people who take catabolic steriods somethimes end up gaining fat, weight and water retention.
Anabolic steriods are used to build definition and muscle, but not so much weight as the Androgenic steriods which cause much more weight gain and much larger muscle growth. Androgenic steriods have the stereotypical side effects of raging, increased aggression and skin eruptions ( pimples).
Now remember, not all steriods are testosterone based. And my jaw did not grow that big because I did not take a testosterone based steriod. My fuller jaw diminished after 1.5 months of stopping the oral tabs.
With my extensive medical background coupled with years of experience in sports medicine as well, I am honestly quite surprised at the number of fighters that on and off use steriods in this sport. The difference in this blog is that I have made sure not to name names so I don’t get my head ripped off this time and get accused of still having a quote " ugly omni jaw".
Sincerely,
SunnY SantorO
by SunnY Santoro on Mar 5, 2007 11:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I just had the opportunity to see that Chuck Liddell interview on Good Morning Texas.
Chuck Liddell is a grown man and he is entitled to do as he pleases, but……..
WHOEVER LET HIM ON AIR SHOULD BE FIRED, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
SunnY
by SunnY Santoro on Mar 6, 2007 9:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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