MacDonald: ‘Franklin is not a knockout puncher'

Submission specialist Jason MacDonald feels that he matches up well with striker Rich Franklin on their feet, according to a recent FightNetwork.com article.
In addition, the Canadian middleweight feels that "Franklin's reputation as a knockout specialist has been greatly exaggerated."
Here's a snip from MacDonald:
"Franklin always looks to throw the big left and I know to be cautious of it but I don't think he is a knockout puncher. He caught Nate Quarry with a solid shot and knocked him out but if you look at his last ten fights that's his only knockout. I think my stand-up skills are on par with his. I've never really utilized my striking as much as I maybe should have. In a fight you always revert back to what you're comfortable with and what you're best at and for me that would be submissions and ground-and-pound."
For what it's worth, MacDonald's stand up looked shaky and slow in his most recent bout with Chris Leben. And while he only has one knockout to his credit in his last 12 fights, Franklin has stopped at least five of those with his fists.
On the flip side, in 25 careeer fights — 18 of which are wins — MacDonald has only ended one of them via technical knockout.
So, I'm not so sure what to make of this recent statement. Maybe after training with the uber exclusive Greg Jackson camp he has a newfound appreciation for his boxing skills.
Fortunately, it doesn't seem to have affected his gameplan for the fight.
Here's another snip:
"Rich is going to be anxious and come at me quickly. I'm going to catch him and submit him."
It's good to see a fighter stick with his bread and butter. However, in 22 fights Franklin has never been submitted.
Maybe that has something to do with all the striking chatter ...
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Hughes tried to be a boxer and almost got killed twice….BJ was mauling him rounds 1 and 2 and we all know what GSP did. I think J-Mac is drinking the Jackson Kool Aid. This guy is only kidding himself if he thinks he has boxing talent! Stick with the subs, JM or you will end up like Quarry - look at what happened to him.
by Ed on Feb 28, 2007 2:37 PM EST reply actions
NOw Now……Lets not get too big for our britches Jason…you may anger Rich and get knocked the F out really bad….if this guy goes out there and trys to box with Rich he will expose his real IQ…just because Rich got smashed by AS does not mean any johhny come lately can out strike him…i can’t wait to see this.
by wildbill on Feb 28, 2007 2:42 PM EST reply actions
I can’t wait for this fight! I am excited to see Rich back, and I hope he wins. But, and I said this in reply to a different article, at this point it seems as though anyone coming out of Jackson’s camp right now is a force to be reckoned with.
by Flaadog on Feb 28, 2007 3:17 PM EST reply actions
Sometimes fighters say things to get in the head of their opponants, i hope thats all this is and JMac isnt really questioning Richs stand up and power, or else its gonna be an early night for him, with him waking up to cathiter dangling from his privates
by MMA Dude on Feb 28, 2007 3:25 PM EST reply actions
Can you really consider yourself part of Jackson’s camp and learn a whole lot in only 10 days of training there?
by KP on Feb 28, 2007 3:27 PM EST reply actions
damn mcdonald’s a cocky fucker ain’t he, maybe he needs to be brought back down to earth, maybe by one of those left hooks he was talking about
by tha spida on Feb 28, 2007 3:47 PM EST reply actions
on second thought, i hop jmac really thinks this, i wanna see the Fitch fight
by MMA Dude on Feb 28, 2007 3:57 PM EST reply actions
Franklin has three fights left on his contract including this one. He better hope he wins otherwise he’ll be fighting in his next fight will be against Patrick Cote or someone at that level. If Jason has any trouble attempting to submit or getting him to the ground the fight is over.
by Fred on Feb 28, 2007 6:18 PM EST reply actions
I always have to chime in on Jason Macdonald talk… Aside from the fact the most guys in this sport are cocky as shit. Jason is pretty cocky. He has the advantage of having seen a ton of Rich Franklin fights, but his aren’t exactly main stream. I know that Jmac’s Edmonton training guys were still focusing on transitioning the take down into a quick sub… As we have seen in his last two fights he is pretty slick on the ground. I also was told that he is rapidly improving his standup. I just hope his cockyness doesn’t let him beleive he is at Rich’s level….
by TRavis on Feb 28, 2007 6:26 PM EST reply actions
He is no more cocky than Rich saying, “I’ll knock him out in the first round.” It should be a great fight.
by Will on Feb 28, 2007 6:29 PM EST reply actions
Can somebody please tell me what is going on? I just read on UFC’s site that the winner of this is in line for a title shot. I have also heard the rumors that Nathan Marquardt is getting a shot. Where is Mike Swick’s shot? He earned it with his consecutive wins, and his defeat of number one contender David Loiseau. It should be him, then Rich (assuming he wins) then maybe the winner of Macdonald vs Marquardt or something… does anyone really want to see Marquardt get a title shot? He is so boring!
by theCloser on Feb 28, 2007 6:38 PM EST reply actions
I think that people have forgotten who Rich really is!! I like JMac’s heart but he WILL lose this fight….by Knockout!
by Mike on Feb 28, 2007 6:40 PM EST reply actions
yo mma dude i want to see the fitch fight too, way more than the kampman fight, whats up with that decision????
by tha spida on Feb 28, 2007 7:28 PM EST reply actions
I really wish someone would shut this guy up. He’s had a couple mediocre wins and he hasn’t stop running his mouth yet!! He likes himself more then anyone else does…hard to get fans to watch you like this.
by Tommy on Feb 28, 2007 8:09 PM EST reply actions
FITCH WILL BE ON …THE RANDY FIGHT AND FRANKLIN FIGHT WONT LAST LONG… THUS MORE TIME …NOT TO WORRY/MY PIXX
RANDY BY GATOR ROLL SUB RND 3
MACDONALD KO RND 2 LATE
MATT BY SUB EARLY 3RD
FITCH KO RD 1
KAMPMANN SUB RD 3
BABALU SUB RD 1
HOLMAN KO BEGIN RD 3[SLEEPER PIK]
DENT SUB RD 1
VARNER DEC RD 3 THIS IS JUST MY OPINION
by gvoll on Feb 28, 2007 8:12 PM EST reply actions
Franklin has pins in his left hand following his 5 round decision win against Loiseau and Popsicle sticks keeping his nose together when Silva was done with him.
Franklin hasn’t been tested on the ground and MacDonald’s transitions are very quick. MacDonald is an inch taller than Rich so it will be interesting to see Rich stare UP to MacDonald when the referee goes over the rules when the fighters face each other in the center of the octagon.
There is an adverse psychological component that Rich must get over in order to become the same Rich Franklin that was put to death by the Spider and Loiseau before him.
This will be the fight of the night. It’s the best match-up of all the fights listed on the UFC 68 card. I am a Franklin fan but I also know that David Loiseau and Anderson Silva changed Rich Franklin – the fighter. The question is, is it for better or worse?
I am throwing my support toward MacDonald. Sorry to the Franklin fans (I am one of them too). Rich’s crowning glory was defeating Ken Shamrock and Evan Tanner with a long list of nobody’s before them. Forget Nate Quarry, everyone else has so what MacDonald says has a great deal of truth to it.
Jason is from “Down East” Nova Scotia. Canadians know what that means; it means he’s a tough bastard who will not quit in a fight. He’s a Canadian version of a Pikey… like in the movie Snatch.
This will be by far, THE fight of the night. Don’t count Jason out so quickly ’cause the fight could be over quicker than we expect much like that last time Rich walked in the octagon.
by MMA Fever on Feb 28, 2007 8:36 PM EST reply actions
if you all did not know, here in Canada, this guy ranked like no 5 in middleweights and trust we dont have many here, he may have been lucky with his past couple of fights but there are levels, this is ace, not some TUF fighter.
by xtramust on Feb 28, 2007 9:17 PM EST reply actions
Here is a quote from Rich Franklin that contradicts what he said previously when he stated that he will knock out Jason MacDonald in the first round:
From NBC Sports: http://www.nbcsports.com/ufc/1126949/detail.html
“I know that going into this fight, he’s proven himself a tough competitor,” Franklin said. “I’m looking myself personally to have a tough fight. This is not going to be one of those fights where it’s an easy first-round knockout. He doesn’t have the name ‘Athlete’ for no reason at all. He’s in great condition every time he fights, and I’m looking for a high-paced fight.”
Dana White’s quote about the fight:
“Rich Franklin is coming back after a devastating loss to Anderson Silva and taking on a guy who’s on a roll right now,” White said. “Rich isn’t coming back to an easy fight. This kid [MacDonald] beat Chris Leben, pulled off a big win over TUF star Ed Herman. This is the fight to see if Rich’s head is back and if he’s the old Rich who held the title, or if the kid is going to keep right on rolling.”
This fight is worth the 40 bucks, fo show!
by MMA Fever on Feb 28, 2007 9:19 PM EST reply actions
GO CANADA, chuga chuga choo choo… The little train that thought he could. We just have to see if he can!
by Robin on Feb 28, 2007 9:41 PM EST reply actions
Chugga, chugga, GSP. Nuff said!
Maybe the divine one is rooting for Franklin like he was supposed to with Hughes. If that’s the case then HELL yeah, go Ace!
There is supposed to be a title fight as incentive for the winner of this bout. This poses a really cool question as we know that styles make fights so, does Franklin or MacDonald have the better chance at beating Anderson Silva?
by MMA Fever on Feb 28, 2007 10:40 PM EST reply actions
MacDonald had 7 fights in 2006 and 6 in 2005. Franklin 2 and 3. Franklin’s got my respect because of his Tanner fights, but Maconald’s looks to be in great shape, has some tight ground skills, and didn’t take any punishment his last two fights. I think Macdonalds taking it.
by Pacalis on Feb 28, 2007 10:40 PM EST reply actions
I said it before and I will say it again. MacDonald left himself open to get knocked out a few times against Leben. Franklin, unlike Leben, is not a sloppy fighter. He will definitely get caught and it will lose him this fight.
by Mahde on Feb 28, 2007 11:18 PM EST reply actions
To end the Rich Franklin “I will knock Mac out in the first round” stuff, the interviewer asked him what his best case scenario was and what besides losing would be the worst case scenario. The best case scenario answer was (paraphrasing here) “I will knock him out in the first round.” Ace wasnt trying to be cocky at all. That’s every fighters best case scenario.
He also said verbatum, “I’m just going to go out there, throw some punches and see what happens, I’m ready to fight.”
Mac by gogoplata in the second. Just kidding.
Mac by crossed armbar in the second. Ace, I believe, has lost it.
by MoreThanUFC on Mar 1, 2007 6:36 AM EST reply actions
Mac cant really think he can stand way Franklin. He got out struck by leben and he fights like a drunk. If i was him i wouldn’t be cocky going into this fight as Franklin is no joke.
by jason bang on Mar 1, 2007 7:54 AM EST reply actions
the thing about jmac is he is really skinny, really skinny guys can choke better and submit better and tighter than your usual UFC fighter, so thats a different task than Rich has faced in the UFC, but i still dont see this going to the ground, Evan Tanner, who is a wrestler/submission guy couldnt get rich down to work it, i dont think Jmac will either, he is gonna have to use his hands, Rich by tko, early in the fight
by MMA Dude on Mar 1, 2007 9:26 AM EST reply actions
I just watched the UFC interview with RF and JM.
Rich has another HUGE shiner under his right eye, just like before the Silva fight.
This may not mean anything, but the camera angle on RF made him look big and real tall, yet the interviewer for JM musta been Poopie because it made JM look like he was the size of Sean Sherk. BTW, JM is 1.5 inches taller than Rich.
And Dude, JM looks like he’s put on some serious muscle. Could just be the camera, but check out the interview to see what I mean.
by MoreThanUFC on Mar 1, 2007 4:22 PM EST reply actions
yeah i think youre right, through the power of technology they put Jmacs head on Sherks body..unless it was tim sylvia doing the interview..i couldnt really tell, although his neck was looking pretty thick, but im pretty sure that the Rich shiner is permanant..always the same eyes, and hi nose was looking pretty small, i wonder if they had to actually take some bone out of it…i am one of those pussys who thinks it is possible to overtain, i know rich goes at it hard becuase he doenst like losing, i just hope its not counterproductive
by MMA Dude on Mar 1, 2007 4:32 PM EST reply actions
No, MacDonald, Rich doesnt have knockout power. He just makes ppl quit. I was on your bandwagon, watched every fight of yours I could find, talked with some folks about what has come over you lately to improve your game, thought you had the mental toughness to make it in the big leagues… go back to RITJ fights because you aint it. Did you see McFed sleep like a man? Walk out in Rd 3 and let Rich KO you. We woulda said hey, he beat two good fighters and got KOd by the 4th best 185er in the world. So what, great fight and great effort, but a verbal sub in the corner is about as week as it gets.
by MoreThanUFC on Mar 5, 2007 1:49 AM EST reply actions
Will, the statement " I’ll knock jason out in the first round" was taken out of context he really said " In a perfect world I would knock jason out in the first round" ( thanks to ufc editing, trying to get some negative energy for the fight ) franklin is not cocky at all. Macdonald I feel is a joke and was lucky in his last two fights, I still would say he has pretty solid submission skills.
Macdonald has no heart at all but talks big, like gsp said the more trash you talk before a fight the dumber you look when you lose and macdonald looked like an ass.
by nathan on Mar 6, 2007 8:23 PM EST reply actions

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