Nice article, as usual. Your site is saturated with talented writers. I wish I had the help you do. You really put together an awesome team at UFCmania. It is actually my favorite site….wait a minute…..second favorite site, after mine. j/k.

I put up the same story last night. If you don’t have a newsletter subscription, it is definitely worth it. I get a lot of great news and rumors form it.

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Yeah, I wish you had the help UFCmania has too, that way you wouldn’t make so many blatant mistakes. You have figured out by now that it’s Cung “Le” and not Lee and that he is Vietnamese-American and not Japanese I hope.

We correct this site from time to time, and the guys behind the scenes say thanks. MMAlowdown enjoys attacking you if you try to point out an error. That’s why I come here, better journalism, friendly site, and better news.

Yikes … harsh words from MoreThanUFC. I’m not privvy to your experiences MTU, but Matt has a nice site over there and he’s been helpful from time-to-time here at UFCmania.

I like to keep the criticism of others and other sites to a minimum here — unless it’s about UFCmania.

Please try and keep that in mind next time around. Thanks MoreThanUFC for the compliment and, as always, your participation here at UFCmania.

Sorry, dude, I was wondering how UFCmania would respond. I thought against posting that, but MMAlowdown REALLY pissed me off when I pointed out that a correction was needed and the guy responded with a “I hope your happy now”. I almost sent you an email telling you to watch what you read because I find so many mistakes on that site. But, I didnt for some reason.
Again, sorry to UFCmania, it wont happen again. Manlove to UFCmania as the best free MMA site on the web.

Either of these guys will own Ortiz. Ive been telling everyone that will listen since he came back to the UFC that Ortiz is all talk. Fighters have gotten better since his heyday and he just hasn’t. His best days are behind him and we’ll see that in 2007. But why does Ortiz get fed chumps and Ultimate Fighters? Put him in there with Babalu! WHY IS THAT SUCH A PROBLEM???? Oh, wait, the UFC doesn’t want one of its biggest draws to be exposed, thats why!

dana and tito are suppose to box on 3/24. i bet dana is being a little bitch about it and is trying to get out of it!

i think ortiz is still legit, and will have his way with either rashad or jardine

Tito has zero stand-up game.

I hope Tito gets a beating, Because he talks too much.

Wait, I thought Dana already said that Liddell/Jackson won’t take place yet. Did something change that I didn’t know about?

Nothing has changed. Meltzer and MMAWeekly — both strong sources — are still reporting the rumor despite White’s most recent remarks. There’s just not too many guys like rampage at 205 who can put up a good fight and put butts in seats. Will let you know if another potential opponent besides Rampage crops up for sure.

I smell another Pride acquisition for 205…

This is just what Tito gets for being so cocky and not backing it up.

Rashad would see a huge difference between Tito Ortiz and the chump they fed him that he kicked in the face (sorry Sean Salmon). Keith Jardine is a way more exciting fighter.

Jardine went and ruined the UFC’s plan I bet… I think they planned to give Griffin a shot at Liddel, and Jardine caught him… Jardine was so nervous to fight Forrest he is gonna shit himself if they ask him to fight Liddell.

man thats shit i bought tickets for ufc 70 and i was looking forward to seeing tito

Chuck is no doubt going to put it on Rampage, then its cro cop and that chump from Pride.

I’ve always liked Jardine, I think he definately had the upper hand in that descision to Bonnar, and I think I saw his first loss, but cant remember who he fought. Rashad is exciting to watch, but I cant see him stepping into the same echelon that Tito is in. Lets face the fact that he is definately one of the greatest MMA Fighters ever.

Wood33

Fedor is no chump. I take it u haven’t u seen the slam Kevin Randelman did to him and he still won, Fedor was planted on his head. Maybe you should do some research on Fedor before you start calling anybody a chump.

I’ve never liked Jardine or Rashad Evans. Keith Jardine always has a mean look, but doesn’t fulfill that edge, especially against Stephan Bonnar. That match was very boring and grueling. It made me ponder why they even created Ultimate Fighter. And Rashad Evans used to be terrible. When he was on Ultimate Fighter all he did was dance. It was a disgrace to MMA and even WWE, if that’s even possible. Matt Hughes should’ve pounded his face in for that one.

Agreed Luppers.

I understand that we all have our favorite fighters and we all have some that we just cannot absolutely stand. I am a 100% Tito Ortiz fan and everyone is always bashing him about his cocky attitude. Hey, that’s a part of MMA. Look at Rich Franklin, Matt Hughes, Diego Sanchez and Tim Sylvia. They are in the same category as Tito as far as having a cocky attitude. There is only one fighter that I can think of that doesn’t have an attitude and that is Anderson Silva. I am not going to say that Evans and Jardine have no chance at beating Tito b/c anything can happen in MMA. Look at what happened with Gomi, Silva and Nogueira. All of them are great fighters and they were caught. As far as “Babalu”, don’t get me wrong he is a good fighter, but he’s not that damn good. Honestly, I think he is a chump, but I am mature about it and don’t bash the dude. Hell, he was scared while he was in the ring with Chuck taking a whooping from him and then tried to submit John McCarthy as he jumped in to stop the beating. Tito goes in and survies a hell of a 1st round, came out the 2nd and won the 2nd, came out the 3rd and took some more punishment. Granted, Chuck won, but Tito was still a man and took the punishment. Not very many folks have gone past the 2nd round with Chuck in the past few years except for Jeremy Horn and Horn laid down most of the night. As for Tito “not backing it up”, I have no idea where that came from. This last fight with Chick, never once did he talk about kicking Chuck’s a@@, etc. He did say that he wanted his title back about 1000 times, but that was all that he said. He never bashed Chuck b4 the last fight. Tito has matured a lot and we all wish that some of you haters (it’s clear who I am talking about) would mature as well.

If you think that Anderson Silva doesn’t have an attitude you’re wrong. You should of heard him in an interview after he beat Chris Leben. I know Chris Leben is cocky too, but I’m just saying even though he got his ass kicked, Silva had something to say. Silva stated that he knew he was going to beat him and it was very easy for him, which it was. I’m just saying that Silva isn’t a humble one.

Babalu’s record
http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?FighterID=274

Ortiz’s Record
http://www.sherdog.com/fightfinder/fightfinder.asp?FighterID=158

Chris Leben is the worlds worse. Don’t get me wrong, Chris is a good fighter although; he was talking a lot of smack b4 the Anderson Ailva fight which lead Anderson to talk smack back. Anderson never has initiated a bashing contest b/c of the respect that he has for his fans and for the other fighters. He doesn’t say shit like “I’m gonna knock his ass out in the 1st round” like Rich Franklin did.

Some people think Chris Leben’s a good striker. I think he’s sloppy as hell. Actually I think he is terrible and shouldn’t be fighting in the UFC. I did like the match between Silva and Leben though because Leben and a lot of people thought that Leben was going to win. After viewing the first minute of the round, I knew what the outcome was going to be. It looked like Silva was fighting a middle schooler. It was a horrifying battle for Leben.

Babalu would beat tito! Not saying that because im a babalu fan, just titos stand up sucks, and babalu is a better wreslter and we know about his submissions. Tito has one game plan ground and pound he washed up Evans or babalu would fuck him up possibly Jardine too>

It’s clear as day that Babalu has a better record altough; the losses that he has are from fighters that are well known to MMA fans. Look at Babalu’s wins. How many of these fighters do MMA fans know or have even heard of? He has a win over Jeremy Horn who is well known and Mauricio Rua (4 years ago) who is well known as well. I’m sure if Tito fought a bunch of scrubs in Jungle, WEC and IFC, he would too have a bigger record. Babalu has lost to Fedor, Randelman, Hendo, Liddell who all are well known to MMA fans. Not to be immature about it, but babalu is overrated. And I am not jumping on Tito’s nuts, but he has wins over Evan Tanner, Wanderlei Silva, Guy Mezger, Vitor Belfort who are all great fighters in MMA.

I want Evans and Tito to fight…..I think there ground is similar but Evans has the better stand up….To me this one is a tough one to call….Record favors Evans but Tito has had better fights…Hmmm, this would be a tough one to call..I think Tito would have a tougher time with Evans than Jardine that’s for sure….

I don’t know, I like Tito’s work ethic but I don’t like Tito…so

GO EVANS!

Babalu is not good?

Losses include Chuck x 2, an on fire Randleman, Fedor, Dan Henderson (who just whomped Wanderlei), and one other lucky fight he almost got his toe broken off.

Not dissing Tito at all, but Babalu is at least as good.

Besides Guillard vs Gomi (pre Nick Diaz) Tito vs Babalu is my dream fight.

I think that most of us agree that a lot of the TUF fighters are a little bit overrated. Maybe overrated isnt the right term. Maybe overexposed. We see their personalities and grow to either like or hate them and then watch the TUF champs beat up on the other overrated TUF fighters.

I do think guys like Rashad and Kos are inexperienced and have the potential to be good, but others like Forrest (although he did give a hell of a beating to Tito), Bonner, Herman, Leben are WAY overrated. The UFC “protects” them because the put butts in the seats. How many more tries does Herman get? The only guy he has beat was a complete chump that didnt even want to fight.

Forrest should fight Bisping… the winner gets called “legit” and gets to stay while the other has to go to rage cage or bodog to make a living.

Bonner has already lost enough to get sent away and I dont think Leben will ever beat someone else considered good.

The list goes on…

I would personally like to see Tito fight….. no one, Tito is the most boring fighter in the game. I think he would beat both Evans and Jardine, but it would be agonizingly boring to see. He takes them down, dry humps them for a long time, then sneaks some elbows in. Even against Shamrock, in my opinion a time where he could have showed off his other skills, he did the same thing. If you think youre so much better, then do something different. I for one would be happy if I never saw his boring ass in the octagon again. And I like his attitude, its just his fights suck. Well, one thing can be said about Tito for sure, dating Jenna Jamison tells us he likes his seconds extra, extra, extra ,extra sloppy. Hey Tito how does Ron Jeremy taste?

The Ultimate fighters are overrated. I don’t like any of them. I tried to like Jardine, but his fight against Bonnar was extremely boring. As for Rashad, when he was competing in the Ultimate Fighter, all he did was dance like he was half retarded or something. Ed Herman and mostly all of them are cocky and their opponents wouldn’t even be a challenge for Hulk Hogan, if he was in the octagon. What I also hate is when Dana White awards most of the ones who lost in the Ultimate Fighter a contract. I mean he makes us think when they lose you’ll never see them again. Another week later, that’s all i see in the octagon. The Ultimate Fighter Contestants fighting for a full contract this time. AND THEY LOST!!!

Tyler what are you talking about? Silva beat Leben in 49 seconds. Do your homework.

Fort Murtha, you missed three key points in your analysis of Ortiz and Babalu:

1) Tito has “victories” over a not just washed up but a dry cleaned and steam dried Shamrock twice, Patrick Cote, and a SPLIT!!! with Forrest. These are all recent wins of his.

2) Babalu has fought and won and least twice on the same night 4 times!!!!!!!!!!

3) There is not a loss on Tito’s record that anyone can say he didnt deserve. As for Babalu, I wont even get into the Hendo maj. dec. or the Overeem illegal toe sub. And anyone who goes to the judges against Fedor should get a 1/2 win just for surviving.

side note: Babalu has a win over Jose Landi-Jons who usually went by the name of “Pele”. Granted he was toward the end of his career, but to the more recent fans to MMA, Pele was thee shit, the most feared fighter in his disciplines for years and years. His MMA record is a bit deceiving considering he has probably fought 100-150 times in his life in real Vale Tudo and Muay Thai.
Warning: very, very graphic and brutal
http://www.dailymotion.com/visited/search/vale+tudo/video/x5cho_jujitsu-muay-thai-free-fight-pele-f

Babalu would beat Tito, the only thing good about Chris Leben is his chin, Rashad has a better chance against Tito than Jardine but I think both of them have a shot and the TUF guys are both overated and protected.

And let us not forget, Babalu beat Shogun! Renato can beat anyone at LHW except Chuck, imo. He is incredibly underrated because of his loses to Chuck.

now thats what teh UFC should do, make these ultimate fighters work there way up the ladder. It will put people in better perspective. Showing everone how good guys like babalu, tito, horn, and ext…

point one tito would kill evans point two tito would also dominate jardine that leaves mr rampage and tito that would be a great fight and get easports to make a ufc game you can call it ufc 2008 that is the shit go teampunishment chuck is waiting so let jardine fight him he beat forrest rampage has to prove he belongs that was the past with him and chuck. chuck is alot better than the last time they met

one more thing all american you are the most stupidest dumb ass motha fuck ive ever heard babalu didint he get beat by a nobody talk when he actually wins a fight

Rashad is finally gonna rid us of this bum named Tito..You think Liddell really hurt him….wait and see what Evans does to him….

People are totally underestimating Rashad….but that guy is probably the only man alive who i feel can beat Liddell….

Rashad has really heavy hands and he’s fast as hell….No way Ortiz should try and stand with this guy…People are saying Rashad doesn’t have a good stand up…Well answer this guestion…Why are the ones who try and stand with him always end up on there back? Any man wo can drop Brad Imes not once but twice can definetly hurt Glass Chin Ortiz.

Look out Liddell, you finally have someone in the UFC to rival you..If Chuck some how gets by Rampage and Evans beat’s Ortiz…We could have a changing of the Guard..Chuck stand up isn’t good to me…But people go to sleep…Should be an intresting next few months.

Answer to you question….Stephan Bonnar, Sam Hoger..most of all the guys that Rashad has fouhgt have tried to stand with him…have you seen one of his fights….

I like babalu but lets be serious here. He proved his chin sucks, end of discussion there. Tito’s chin don’t suck as bad as Sobral’s but his heart is way softer then most people in the sport of mma. This is a man just afraid to get hit. Him and his girl are perfect for one another, their both screen whores always trying to get on tv somehow.

haha thats where your wrong tommy…they arent perfect for eachother, obviously his girl is not scared to get hit..from any position

yeah now thats real talk…she actually likes to take a good hard pounding…

Answer to you question….Stephan Bonnar, Sam Hoger..most of all the guys that Rashad has fouhgt have tried to stand with him…have you seen one of his fights….

Yeah i saw those fight…and none of those guys tried to stand with him…They tried to push him against the ropes…The only one who actually tried was Imes and he got hurt…Bonnar all he was doing was trying to spin kick and show off…and you saw what happened to him….It was Evans not Griffin that took Bonnar’s fighting spirit..I also thought Jardine beat the hell out of Bonnar…You guys just aren’t giving Rashad any credit…If this man catch Ortiz or if Tito says something to piss him off or offend him…Ortiz will go to sleep…I’ve never seen anyone in the UFC as explosive as this man. Period.

what ropes are you talking about? Spin kick..Rashad blanketed Stephan , it was the most boring fight i have ever seen…not to mention that wouldnt take anyones fighting spirit away, the steroids took his fights away for the time being….and youre saying that tito has to piss him off to get KOed, or maybe its his job to try that anyway

what ropes are you talking about? Spin kick..Rashad blanketed Stephan , it was the most boring fight i have ever seen…not to mention that wouldnt take anyones fighting spirit away, the steroids took his fights away for the time being….and youre saying that tito has to piss him off to get KOed, or maybe its his job to try that anyway

What i’m saying is this…Evans only does what it takes to win…He doesn’t really showcase his skills…He gets the victory and doesn’t try to kill is opponent unless the disrespect him.

Salmon totally disrespected him and you saw what happened…Tito will meet that same fate…He’s a cocky bastard and he will finally meet a bigger stronger and younger version of what he used to be…Rashad is gonna whip this dudes ass…Just wait and see…I wouldn’t be surprised if Tito doesn’t try and find some kind of way to pull out of this.

I’ll ridher watch TITO VS CHUCK than TITO vs Rashad boring…

Why would you want to another Tito vs Chuch…the outcome would be the same…Tito running and hiding…..He’s gonna do the same thing with Evans….Once he see he can’t take Rashad down…..Tito’s only hope is to get evans on his back and keep him there….If he can’t Ortiz is gonna get his ass taxed..

If you think Tito wont kick the crap out of Rashad. You best wake up… Rashad has never had to step in to the cage and face a fighter like Tito, Rashad would never even be were he is at if it was not for TV, And if any one out there has a chance to speek to Rashad tell him to keep his head
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